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The planned park at the corner of Jeffrey and Portola is gone and will become 450 units of housing now??? I was kinda looking forward to the big park, I guess I was fooled by TIC again. And the proposed new parks looks not attractive at all, they are not real parks at all. BTW, anyone know is...

The city view premium is more than I expected... 1.5m to 2m? That's like buying another one of the houses in the same neighborhood.

I'm wondering is Irvine the only city or TIC the only company that are doing this shit over the years? We cannot be alone, can we?

I just found out that FORZA is the same as TERRA! TIC just reuse and reuse and reuse...Do they EVER EVER come up something new or what!

OHHH NOOOOO...IP makes me wonder again. The lots size from OH4 are ranging from 3600 sqf to 10K+ sqf. How many floorplans are they going to fit there? I mean they cannot put similar-sized homes in 3600 and 15000 lots, can they?

I do like there is a large park close to FORZA. There are two tennis courts too!

Every time I see these big big pantry right in your face right in the dining and kitchen area, I'm stunned. It's not like the dining area is sufficient. A small dining and a big pantry, why. I'm so mad at TIC and maybe myself. I shouldn't have waited and hoped the design will get better. It's...

Just saw the floorplan, right, they are getting worse..shouldn't have hoped at all...But I still hope they won't ruin OH4, again, maybe I shouldn't hope...

TIC really let me down...

I'm looking forward how the 19176 lot floorplan will look like. Or maybe I shouldn't. But I notice the plan1 and 2 only have 3 bathroom, not 3.5, meaning at least they are making some changes.

I don't know, maybe the loft? and your wall?lol

I actually have another question regarding their ?dramatic? high ceilings. They added big fixed windows at the upper half of the walls. With your neighbors right next to you, how about the privacy??

Yes, I can actually understand them now. Dramatic ceilings are not offered in the last five years or so, it's an advantage to sell. But I still hope people can visit in person, sit on the chairs in the living room and feel whether you like.

That's nice to have, cause bedroom ceilings are not super high. Having a small living room with 'dramatic' super high ceiling and high walls is horseshit, batshit.

To me, things gotta be proportional. If have 20+? ceilings, the room needs to be a decent size. You cannot have super high ceilings with a tiny room like Azul and Cielo. It?s personal feelings I agree. But just visit Azul and Cielo and feel. Rooms small, walls  so high, it?s a well?

LOL, how about their "dramatic 21? volume ceilings". The spaces are so out of proportion. The ceiling is so high, yet the width is so narrow, makes you feel like you are at bottom of a well or canyon. Just be there and feel. If you have been to the narrows at Zion nation park, lol.

They are equally, sameness BAD. I hope people stop buying so irvine company will improve in the future.

Come on People gotta stop buying. Now is a good time to Stop buying the shit. I gotta say the 1500-2500 square foot floor plans are not bad at all. More than 2500 ones are really bad.

I went to the opening yesterday. The floor plans are so bad. The area by calculation is big, but when be there, at the entrance, the living room, the dining, it feels so confined, congested, suppressed. To me, the builder just want to make the number of square feet big AND DONOT CARE ANYTHING...

The Azul and Cielo floor plan are just so so bad. Doesn?t make sense to me at all, one plan has the master bathroom entrance so far away from the bed, you need to walk like 50ft, I don?t know but it?s far, to get the the toilet. For an old man like me, it?s not fun to go at night.