Orchard Hills - The Groves - Keystone Pacific & HOA

I’m so glad to be done with Tustin Summer Academy which is hosted at Orchard. Wonderful program, absolutely miserable school design for OC’s no school buses.
 
@irvineoc2016,

Which area are you talking about? A, B, or C

I assumed you were talking about Area A in the map. That portion is still a public street. If you were talking about area C, that looks like your HOA's responsibility. If you were talking about area B, that looks a grey zone. Still outside your gates but beyond the private property sign.

Even if area B is within the HOA, most gated communities have bylaws that allow IPD to enforce motor vehicle laws within the community.
 

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If you live near a school you should be prepared for the shit traffic during school drop off and pick up.
I have no sympathy for your situation.
 
^You clearly have no understanding of the concepts underpinning property rights or contracts.

Further, based on your twisted logic, you would also believe that:

1. You're driving a car on the street, you should be prepared for someone to crash into you with impunity.

2. You're getting medical care at a hospital, you should be prepared for the doctors and nurses to commit medical malpractice.

3. You're eating at a restaurant, you should be prepared to get food poisoning.

4. You're putting your money into a bank, you should be prepared to have your money stolen through bank mismanagement and the bank to fail without the government there to back up your deposits.
 
It's obvious someone who buys a house next to a school is gonna have shit traffic whether you have contracts or laws that say otherwise.
Why don't you make a law that prohibits earthquakes....LOL.
 
^You clearly have no understanding of the concepts underpinning property rights or contracts.

Further, based on your twisted logic, you would also believe that:

1. You're driving a car on the street, you should be prepared for someone to crash into you with impunity.

2. You're getting medical care at a hospital, you should be prepared for the doctors and nurses to commit medical malpractice.

3. You're eating at a restaurant, you should be prepared to get food poisoning.

4. You're putting your money into a bank, you should be prepared to have your money stolen through bank mismanagement and the bank to fail without the government there to back up your deposits.
Wrong logic.

It's clear to most people on here that you're the one with no clear understanding for circumstances.

Based on zubs' logic, it would be:

1. You're driving a car on a street with a history of accidents.
2. You're getting medical care at a SHITTY hospital.
3. You're eating a a restaurant with a history of food poisoning.
4. You're putting your money into a bank with a history of mismanagement.

That's what it means to live NEAR a school.

All your examples are based on the logic of living FAR AWAY from a school.
 
^You clearly have no understanding of the concepts underpinning property rights or contracts.

Further, based on your twisted logic, you would also believe that:

1. You're driving a car on the street, you should be prepared for someone to crash into you with impunity.

2. You're getting medical care at a hospital, you should be prepared for the doctors and nurses to commit medical malpractice.

3. You're eating at a restaurant, you should be prepared to get food poisoning.

4. You're putting your money into a bank, you should be prepared to have your money stolen through bank mismanagement and the bank to fail without the government there to back up your deposits.
You know you're in a bad spot when you're trashing internet strangers on talk irvine at 4:39am. Maybe you can sue the party responsible for the traffic for mental anguish. Hope you get well soon <3
 
Wrong logic.

It's clear to most people on here that you're the one with no clear understanding for circumstances.

Based on zubs' logic, it would be:

1. You're driving a car on a street with a history of accidents.
2. You're getting medical care at a SHITTY hospital.
3. You're eating a a restaurant with a history of food poisoning.
4. You're putting your money into a bank with a history of mismanagement.

That's what it means to live NEAR a school.

All your examples are based on the logic of living FAR AWAY from a school.
BS
 
Very funny, O [faux] sagacious message board overlord. What's even more amusing is your unsubstantiated superiority complex.
 
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Nextdoor seems to be a more appropriate forum to share this and rally fellow neighbors than TI.
 
Middle school originally. It was extended down to K well after most of The Groves sections were completed and sold.
Interesting because the enrollment of the other TUSD middle schools are all below or around 1000. Internet says OH school has 1400 kids? I think that living near a school comes with some unspoken inconveniences but I also think parents should respect whatever the rules are as outlined. I also agree this is the wrong forum to voice your concerns. No one here will be sympathetic to your situation - it’s a forum that likes piling on :) But I do think there is a legitimate gripe here if the original design of the school (drop offs, etc) did not account for this many kids.

Good luck to you. Maybe you’ll get a fix before someguy gets a brand new lake forest elementary school ✌🏻
 
Very funny, O [faux] sagacious message board overlord. What's even more amusing is your unsubstantiated superiority complex.
The only other place I've heard "sagacious" is in the song "Inner Logic" by Bad Religion. Your vocab is rivaling Greg Graffin. Do you work in a field that can make use of your knowledge of words? Genuinely curious.

Good luck to you. Maybe you’ll get a fix before someguy gets a brand new lake forest elementary school ✌🏻
Lol. Freaking overcrowded LF schools. Freaking TB bait and switch. High density residential going on the "proposed" school site any minute now. Better yet, rezoned to a Motel 6.
 
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