ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 9 25.7%
  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 21 60.0%
  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 14.3%
  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    35
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"We have spent over a decade blending the classic style of the 1966-1977 Vintage Ford Bronco"

Yours is late 80's, nice try tho
I paid $3600 for that truck two years ago it’s now worth over $20,000 and climbing…that’s 520% in two years. How much had your Tesla appreciated?😆😆😆😆
 
I paid $3600 for that truck two years ago it’s now worth over $20,000 and climbing…that’s 520% in two years. How much had your Tesla appreciated?😆😆😆😆

We've gone through this already, you paid $3.6k, sure, but it's not worth $20k (hey, my kids painting is worth $1m and climbing), unless the transaction goes through, having people say or your neighbors say they'd pay that amount isn't the same thing.

You've also spent money on it (you've even admitted it back in some prior post), based on a restoration bronco site:
Bronco restoration will cost between $35,000 – $50,000 if it’s in medium condition.

Based on jdpower avg retail is $17k, in order to get the high retail of $29k, you'd need to spend the above

Again, you attempting to make some profound point, nice try, i like the effort! :) o_O:unsure::whistle::coffee:
 
I get offers just driving down the street every week…
and that’s a crappy one😆😆
Check out this item on OfferUp.
https://offerup.co/9QrvHY5A4wb
I'm sure you get offers every week, just not the ones that you're looking for, obviously

again, that's a different bronco than yours, off by a decade, different altogether
yours is this year iirc

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morekaos live in a world where EVs cost $100k and his beat up ICE cars are worth 520% more than he bought it for.

Who is dreaming of unicorns here?
 
morekaos live in a world where EVs cost $100k and his beat up ICE cars are worth 520% more than he bought it for.

Who is dreaming of unicorns here?
definitely not me😆😆😆
The average of all Tesla models is about $60,000 to $70,000, and varying trim levels add or subtract around $10,000 in most cases. The Plaid trim is the priciest by far, exceeding $120,000.
 

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definitely not me😆😆😆
The average of all Tesla models is about $60,000 to $70,000, and varying trim levels add or subtract around $10,000 in most cases. The Plaid trim is the priciest by far, exceeding $120,000.
Changing the story again.

There are many EVs lower than $50k... and a few less than $30k, but you keep ignoring that and will respond with some story that you can't get one.

Tesla is not the only EV game in town.
 
Changing the story again.

There are many EVs lower than $50k... and a few less than $30k, but you keep ignoring that and will respond with some story that you can't get one.

Tesla is not the only EV game in town.
68.7% of all EV sales in California makes them the only game in town
 
If i had a different EV !tesla, I would not be comfortable driving it more than 100 miles away from my home charging.
Palm Springs is almost too far for a round trip.

Tesla beats all others with its super charging stations.

I tried using chargepoint charger up in Santa Barbara with my TeslaY and 10% battery recharge took about 1.5 hours, and a lot of the chargers looked like they were about to break...or were broken. A Tesla supercharger takes about 30 min to charge 50% or 160 miles.
 
And like GM…Ford steps in the EV poo pile…This is not just about execution…they try to obscure the dismal sales and public uptake…again Toyota has it right. American car makers stumble backward through the dark…good job…

Ford posts full-year net loss, ugly fourth quarter as ‘execution issues’ plague operations


· Ford Motor reported an ugly fourth quarter and a full-year net loss.

· The automaker cited “execution issues” that plagued operations. It fell short of expected sales by 100,000 units.

· The company is looking to cut additional costs this year and is not ruling out additional layoffs.

Ford continues to face issues with internal combustion engine vehicles, which are responsible for almost all of Ford’s profits.



https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/02/for...rce=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail
 
Just like you quoted, if Ford could produce more EVs, they would be doing better.

And not just EVs, the new Bronco and Maverick have shortages too.
 
Believe it or not:


From the “duh” department, California is already becoming more healthy because of electric car penetration, which has resulted in cleaner air in areas where electric cars are more prevalent, according to a new study.

The study was published last week by the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California. It tracked real-world pollution levels, electric car penetration, and emergency room visits across California between 2013 and 2019.
Completely unsurprisingly, the study found that clean air vehicles actually resulted in clean air, with the benefits being stronger in areas where there were more of them. Amazing. Who knew.

Do it for the children. :)
 
It’s a slippery slope…

The Climate Crusaders Are Coming for Electric Cars Too – Report reveals ‘the ultimate goal: tiny, uncomfortable apartments & bicycles for all’


Allysia Finley in WSJ: Replacing all gasoline-powered cars with electric vehicles won’t be enough to prevent the world from overheating. So people will have to give up their cars. That’s the alarming conclusion of a new report from the University of California, Davis and “a network of academics and policy experts” called the Climate and Community Project. The report offers an honest look at the vast personal, environmental and economic sacrifices needed to meet the left’s net-zero climate goals. Progressives’ dirty little secret is that everyone will have to make do with much less—fewer cars, smaller houses and yards, and a significantly lower standard of living. ... The report concludes that the auto sector’s “current dominant strategy,” which involves replacing gasoline-powered vehicles with EVs without decreasing car ownership and use, “is likely incompatible” with climate activists’ goal to keep the planet from warming by more than 1.5 degrees Celsius compared with preindustrial times. Instead, the report recommends government policies that promote walking, cycling and mass transit. ...

A Natural Resources Defense Council report last year on lithium mining also concluded that the government needs “to reduce long-term dependency on single-passenger vehicles.” The Inflation Reduction Act included billions of dollars to promote bicycling and so-called livable neighborhoods. ...

California’s Democratic Legislature last year even passed a bill creating a $1,000 tax credit (originally proposed at $7,500) for households that don’t own cars. “We can invest in the future by providing financial incentives for Californians to transition from vehicles to more sustainable options,” state Sen. Anthony Portantino said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cl...nergy-power-fossil-fuels-environment-31a692ca
 
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