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Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« on: May 22, 2013, 10:50:00 PM »
So I've decided to start landscaping now, and we are going with a company called Rare Earth Systems.  They are friendly guys (Chris Crary) and I'll track my progress and provide some photos along the way.  We also considered other companies such as West Coast Landcare, Go Pavers, and a few others.   Chris knows a lot about pavers, and has some good references and we'll build out through phases.   This is not a recommendation, but I'm just documenting a process with somewhat of a "new guy on the block".   We'll see where it goes.   Our design is pretty simple (not that much you can do with an Irvine box).

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 08:04:08 AM »
Any chance to scan the plans?

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 11:06:10 AM »
So I've decided to start landscaping now, and we are going with a company called Rare Earth Systems.  They are friendly guys (Chris Crary) and I'll track my progress and provide some photos along the way.  We also considered other companies such as West Coast Landcare, Go Pavers, and a few others.   Chris knows a lot about pavers, and has some good references and we'll build out through phases.   This is not a recommendation, but I'm just documenting a process with somewhat of a "new guy on the block".   We'll see where it goes.   Our design is pretty simple (not that much you can do with an Irvine box).

I am speaking with West Coast Landcare now. What are your impressions? Any reason why you chose not to go with them?

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 12:21:26 PM »
if you dont mind sharing plans & costs, i appreciate it. thanks

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 12:27:39 PM »
Yes, design or at least pricing would be much appreciated.

I'm still struggling with trying to figure out what we're going to be able to afford to do with our lousy plot of dirt.

It doesn't seem such a small bit of land should be so darned expensive.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 12:53:42 PM »
Yes, design or at least pricing would be much appreciated.

I'm still struggling with trying to figure out what we're going to be able to afford to do with our lousy plot of dirt.

It doesn't seem such a small bit of land should be so darned expensive.

Bigger plots of land quickly cost a midsize vehicle to do.  A small pergola depending on the material can cost $5000-$10000 alone, not including stone work and landscaping.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 07:34:53 PM »
Yes, design or at least pricing would be much appreciated.

I'm still struggling with trying to figure out what we're going to be able to afford to do with our lousy plot of dirt.

It doesn't seem such a small bit of land should be so darned expensive.

Bigger plots of land quickly cost a midsize vehicle to do.  A small pergola depending on the material can cost $5000-$10000 alone, not including stone work and landscaping.

I wonder how much it costs to take an AutoCAD class at IVC, do my own design and go to Home Depot.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 07:40:47 PM »
@broda - That's a great plan, but the biggest part of the problem is not drawing the design; it's figuring out how much every combination of options costs including all the different types of pavers, seat walls, rock facades, flagstone, generic ground cover, square footage, trees, bushes, flowers, irrigation, low-voltage lighting, etc. as well as knowing what types of plants are allowed by the HOA and which will survive in which part of our yards that will have how much sunlight at what times of the year.

And so on...

There are so many variables and options and we don't know what all the possibilities are, let alone knowing all the ins and outs of each.

The biggest problem is everything we'd like to do will cost $20k which is outside our budget.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 07:47:20 PM »
in that case...AutoCAD class...drawing of grass...submit.  Plant Grass...save $$$$$$


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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 09:35:04 PM »
@broda - That's a great plan, but the biggest part of the problem is not drawing the design; it's figuring out how much every combination of options costs including all the different types of pavers, seat walls, rock facades, flagstone, generic ground cover, square footage, trees, bushes, flowers, irrigation, low-voltage lighting, etc. as well as knowing what types of plants are allowed by the HOA and which will survive in which part of our yards that will have how much sunlight at what times of the year.

And so on...

There are so many variables and options and we don't know what all the possibilities are, let alone knowing all the ins and outs of each.

The biggest problem is everything we'd like to do will cost $20k which is outside our budget.
Thanks for sharing info on landscaper.
He came by, and I had a long talk with him.  He told me he'll come back next day for measurement, but never did.  I guess he's not interested working on my yard.  This is the trend for me.  Two guys told me they'll come back with design and estimate, but never did.  One guy I talked to at my neighbor's yard he was working on flat out told me he's too busy.  I get a feeling that landscapers are now overloaded with works as builders are cranking out new homes as fast as they can.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 09:47:19 PM »
I think you hit the nail on the head.

We're having a really hard time with all but one landscaper. It's like we're chasing them down to beg them to take our money, which is ridiculous. If we're paying over $10k (and closer to $20k), they should be at our beck and call, but of our 6 contractors, 1 came back with a design and price after we kept calling, 4 have measured and talked with us but have never gotten back to us after 2 weeks, and just 1 guy had ready a design and detailed estimate in 5 days with a follow-up 2-hour-long discussion.

It just makes you feel foolish (and angry) to keep meeting all these people and discussing all the details of your yard ideas only to have them all never talk to you again.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 02:44:42 PM »
in that case...AutoCAD class...drawing of grass...submit.  Plant Grass...save $$$$$$


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I've seen the drawings my landscaper submitted to the HOA.  You don't need to take an AutoCad class, just need to find a piece of paper an a crayon.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 01:40:51 PM »
Any chance to scan the plans?

Yes, I will scan the plans in the next day or so.

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 01:43:43 PM »
So I've decided to start landscaping now, and we are going with a company called Rare Earth Systems.  They are friendly guys (Chris Crary) and I'll track my progress and provide some photos along the way.  We also considered other companies such as West Coast Landcare, Go Pavers, and a few others.   Chris knows a lot about pavers, and has some good references and we'll build out through phases.   This is not a recommendation, but I'm just documenting a process with somewhat of a "new guy on the block".   We'll see where it goes.   Our design is pretty simple (not that much you can do with an Irvine box).

I am speaking with West Coast Landcare now. What are your impressions? Any reason why you chose not to go with them?

Overall impressions are good.   West Coast is a close second.  They've also done almost every house (it seems) in our neighborhood.   To be honest, some if it is just doing something different.   You can kind of tell the houses they do - similar plans, designs, etc.   It's not the case, but I'd think at this point I should get a deal, because everyone else has paid for the design work/ concepts... they just need to rinse and repeat with me.   

Dan is a friendly guy, not too pushy.   Talked to other owners' experience and its been pretty good with a few small complaints here and there.   

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Re: Starting Landscaping - Rare Earth Systems
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 01:45:12 PM »
if you dont mind sharing plans & costs, i appreciate it. thanks

Overall cost has yet to be determined, because I haven't factored in plants yet.   As of right now, hardscape, demo and irrigation will cost about $13K.   Will post more of my plans later.  My problem is that I keep changing what I want in my own head.   That's in part why we chose Rare Earth, because they will go along with the flow.   

 

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