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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1740 on: December 06, 2020, 08:42:33 PM »
@iho is dripping the knowledge - we are fans of Pandor in Newport. We don’t go there too often since it’s a bit further away. We used to get pandor and Susie cakes :-)

In Tustin on walnut and Newport a Waba grill is opening in the near future. They took over the old Mexican food place across from yoshinoya.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1741 on: December 06, 2020, 11:44:04 PM »
In Tustin on walnut and Newport a Waba grill is opening in the near future. They took over the old Mexican food place across from yoshinoya.

That used to be Mega Burger, then Albertos (or some 'tos) and then some other Mexican place.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1742 on: December 18, 2020, 07:44:21 PM »
I found out there's a restaurant in Irvine that is still doing outdoor dining (one that I get food from like 2-3 times a month).  If anyone wants to know which one it is, just PM me.
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1743 on: December 19, 2020, 10:29:12 AM »
Pretty much every TIC shopping center is doing de facto outdoor dining. They're allowing patrons to use common area tables outside restaurants. Last go around TIC closed all outdoor seating.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1744 on: December 19, 2020, 10:39:23 AM »
Pretty much every TIC shopping center is doing de facto outdoor dining. They're allowing patrons to use common area tables outside restaurants. Last go around TIC closed all outdoor seating.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1745 on: December 19, 2020, 12:56:12 PM »
Pretty much every TIC shopping center is doing de facto outdoor dining. They're allowing patrons to use common area tables outside restaurants. Last go around TIC closed all outdoor seating.

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Just pointing out inconsistencies with the outdoor dining ban. Ideally science and not politics should be driving pandemic public health policy. Outdoor dining is likely on the lower risk spectrum if done with distancing, good ventilation, small groups, and limited to those in the same household.

The problem is that we are in a superspike of COVID cases and the government is trying to slow the tsunami. Things that were okay a couple months ago are more dangerous today.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1746 on: December 19, 2020, 03:13:07 PM »
Pretty much every TIC shopping center is doing de facto outdoor dining. They're allowing patrons to use common area tables outside restaurants. Last go around TIC closed all outdoor seating.

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Just pointing out inconsistencies with the outdoor dining ban. Ideally science and not politics should be driving pandemic public health policy. Outdoor dining is likely on the lower risk spectrum if done with distancing, good ventilation, small groups, and limited to those in the same household.

The problem is that we are in a superspike of COVID cases and the government is trying to slow the tsunami. Things that were okay a couple months ago are more dangerous today.

A bit of hypocrisy too...it's ok to go into a crowded Costco, Walmart, or Target yet outdoor dining is somehow more dangerous?  Heck, I'd be willing to wager that outdoor dining might be safer than going to the grocery store. Indoor dining being banned I can understand though.
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1747 on: December 19, 2020, 03:44:49 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1748 on: December 19, 2020, 03:50:00 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1749 on: December 19, 2020, 08:57:25 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.

Agreed. But then you get those people who skirt it by being 2 or 3 parties of 4. The rule breakers make it hard for everyone.
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1750 on: December 19, 2020, 09:24:02 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.

Agreed. But then you get those people who skirt it by being 2 or 3 parties of 4. The rule breakers make it hard for everyone.

Some people get drunk and drive, we don't shutdown the roads on New Years, Cinco and St Paddy's.

We do enforce the laws.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1751 on: December 20, 2020, 06:53:10 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.

Agreed. But then you get those people who skirt it by being 2 or 3 parties of 4. The rule breakers make it hard for everyone.

Some people get drunk and drive, we don't shutdown the roads on New Years, Cinco and St Paddy's.

We do enforce the laws.

I thought OC Sherriff said they won’t be enforcing this.

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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1752 on: December 20, 2020, 07:42:09 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.

Agreed. But then you get those people who skirt it by being 2 or 3 parties of 4. The rule breakers make it hard for everyone.

Some people get drunk and drive, we don't shutdown the roads on New Years, Cinco and St Paddy's.

We do enforce the laws.

I thought OC Sherriff said they won’t be enforcing this.

It's Department of Health that can fine/shutdown restaurants based on state orders.

OC Sherriff won't be going to restaurants telling diners to go home (I assume).
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1753 on: December 20, 2020, 07:42:15 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.

Agreed. But then you get those people who skirt it by being 2 or 3 parties of 4. The rule breakers make it hard for everyone.

Some people get drunk and drive, we don't shutdown the roads on New Years, Cinco and St Paddy's.

We do enforce the laws.

I thought OC Sherriff said they won’t be enforcing this.

I remember hearing that both the OC and Riverside Sherriffs said they won't enforce the outdoor dining ban but not sure how city PDs are handling enforcement.
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Re: Retail Openings and Closures
« Reply #1754 on: December 20, 2020, 08:32:57 PM »
The problem is when larger parties take advantage of outdoor dining. Large groups of people without masks talking/laughing in close proximity for over an hour or two even outdoors is risky.


I can see that, then limit the table sizes to 2 and 4 people like most of the places that I've been to.

Agreed. But then you get those people who skirt it by being 2 or 3 parties of 4. The rule breakers make it hard for everyone.

Some people get drunk and drive, we don't shutdown the roads on New Years, Cinco and St Paddy's.

We do enforce the laws.

I thought OC Sherriff said they won’t be enforcing this.

It's Department of Health that can fine/shutdown restaurants based on state orders.

OC Sherriff won't be going to restaurants telling diners to go home (I assume).

They can if they wanted to. I have seen other police agencies that follow the state law and enforce the rule on YouTube.

We are passed the political and playing games. News Flash: California is now ground zero of the COVID outbreak in the US. (maybe the world right now?)

 

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