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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2022, 08:07:45 AM »
I actually agree with sleepy. We have kids that went to IUSD and you have to give most of the credit to parents.

Stopped by the Pulte homes sales office, possible prison breaks aside I was told this will be the last GP neighborhood that will be part of IUSD, the neighborhood after will be Lake Forest. It’s also located right in between Solis park elementary and Portola HS and walkable which is super convenient.

Is that their way to incentivize you to buy? Last one to be part of IUSD.  ;D

I mean yea? The Lake Forest schools are just not... great. Not that IUSD is phenomenal but at least at IUSD, you get some general baseline.
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Lol. Staunch defender of lake forest schools. Do you even have kids?
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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2022, 08:48:42 AM »
I actually agree with sleepy. We have kids that went to IUSD and you have to give most of the credit to parents.



No one is disputing that. I have been a "hater" of Irvine schools on this board but the reality is IUSD > Lake Forest public school offerings. That's just fact. If you have to overpay for a 3 story condo in GP with $$$$ Mello Roos, then you probably want the (baseline) better schools. That's all I'm saying here. Unless the future GP homes zoned to Lake Forest schools don't have MR... then that's a different convo. But all things being the same - Solis Park Elem > Rancho blah blah blah in Lake Forest. But who knows, maybe GP can get SVUSD to build a new school. To date, 3 new developments in LF have been unsuccessful (Baker Ranch, Meadows and Serrano).

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2022, 12:21:17 PM »
I've said this before but even if it's just the helicopter parents who make the difference in "schooling"... that still makes IUSD better than other hoods.

You want your kids to hang out with kids who have parents who care about education... now... that's not always the case in Irvine... there are some schools that have a percentage of parents who really don't care... but that's an exception because most Irvine parents are paying a premium for their homes thus they need to make sure they are getting some value out of it.

This puts Lake Forest in the sandwich category... either parents with young children who are not in Elem/Middle/High or parents who have college kids where local school rating becomes less relevant.

We lived in South County before kids... more because my wife didn't want to live in Irvine... but once we started a family... guess where she wanted to move?

The funny thing is... I think we are the parents who aren't the Tiger ones pushing for that Ivy education. so I guess we bring IUSD down. :)
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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2022, 12:29:31 PM »
that's why RE in Irvine will have limited downside in a downturn, because the reputation of IUSD. Chinese grew up with this story of one the great ancient philosophers, it is one of their core beliefs. Owning a house in the best school district...
https://baike.baidu.com/item/孟母三迁/826039

I've said this before but even if it's just the helicopter parents who make the difference in "schooling"... that still makes IUSD better than other hoods.

You want your kids to hang out with kids who have parents who care about education... now... that's not always the case in Irvine... there are some schools that have a percentage of parents who really don't care... but that's an exception because most Irvine parents are paying a premium for their homes thus they need to make sure they are getting some value out of it.

This puts Lake Forest in the sandwich category... either parents with young children who are not in Elem/Middle/High or parents who have college kids where local school rating becomes less relevant.

We lived in South County before kids... more because my wife didn't want to live in Irvine... but once we started a family... guess where she wanted to move?

The funny thing is... I think we are the parents who aren't the Tiger ones pushing for that Ivy education. so I guess we bring IUSD down. :)
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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2022, 01:05:04 PM »
Can't connect to that link... is that some Sun Tzu Art of War philosophy... FCB Art of Real Estate?

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2022, 02:55:33 PM »
Stopped by the Pulte homes sales office, possible prison breaks aside I was told this will be the last GP neighborhood that will be part of IUSD, the neighborhood after will be Lake Forest. It’s also located right in between Solis park elementary and Portola HS and walkable which is super convenient.

Is that their way to incentivize you to buy? Last one to be part of IUSD.  ;D

I mean yea? The Lake Forest schools are just not... great. Not that IUSD is phenomenal but at least at IUSD, you get some general baseline.
School = overrated
Parenting = underrated

Lol. Staunch defender of lake forest schools. Do you even have kids?
Nothing to defend. Just speaking from experience. Has nothing to do with what city you are in really. Don't get defensive. I'm not knocking Irvine for having great or bad schools. ;)

I say it a million times but how many ways are there to calculate a derivative or an integral? How often are you going to actually use it in your job? How beneficial is having the latest and greatest facilities going to help by having a "better" education? In the end, it's all about how you are raised and how you conduct yourself as a person. The gritty mindset or lack there of can also be an indicator of future success. Education can only take you so far in life. Sure it's important, but I would argue being able to handle difficult circumstances/situations, building/growing relationships, using failures as motivation to do better, etc is even more important. Do they teach you that in school? Maybe? But definitely something that you most likely will learn as you get older and not necessarily in school.

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2022, 03:11:11 PM »
Stopped by the Pulte homes sales office, possible prison breaks aside I was told this will be the last GP neighborhood that will be part of IUSD, the neighborhood after will be Lake Forest. It’s also located right in between Solis park elementary and Portola HS and walkable which is super convenient.

Is that their way to incentivize you to buy? Last one to be part of IUSD.  ;D

I mean yea? The Lake Forest schools are just not... great. Not that IUSD is phenomenal but at least at IUSD, you get some general baseline.
School = overrated
Parenting = underrated

Lol. Staunch defender of lake forest schools. Do you even have kids?
Nothing to defend. Just speaking from experience. Has nothing to do with what city you are in really. Don't get defensive. I'm not knocking Irvine for having great or bad schools. ;)

I say it a million times but how many ways are there to calculate a derivative or an integral? How often are you going to actually use it in your job? How beneficial is having the latest and greatest facilities going to help by having a "better" education? In the end, it's all about how you are raised and how you conduct yourself as a person. The gritty mindset or lack there of can also be an indicator of future success. Education can only take you so far in life. Sure it's important, but I would argue being able to handle difficult circumstances/situations, building/growing relationships, using failures as motivation to do better, etc is even more important. Do they teach you that in school? Maybe? But definitely something that you most likely will learn as you get older and not necessarily in school.

You're missing the point of the ranking of school districts. All of the bolded part is absolutely irrelevant. The ranking of the school districts gets you into a better university, like the Ivies for most Irvine parents. Has nothing to do with future success in career.

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2022, 03:18:05 PM »
Too lazy to quote. But this is essentially the classic “when are you ever going to use Calculus argument”. Sleepy must be a big fan of the proposed California math framework. The funny thing is, I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying - I just don’t think we agree on what it takes to get to be all those things. And man, it would suck if you couldn’t be that parent to give your kids all that. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself :)

And none of this changes the original point: IUSD > lake forest public school offerings. So yes, GP Solis marketing itself as the last IUSD GP hood is fair.

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2022, 03:27:00 PM »
Too lazy to quote. But this is essentially the classic “when are you ever going to use Calculus argument”. Sleepy must be a big fan of the proposed California math framework. The funny thing is, I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying - I just don’t think we agree on what it takes to get to be all those things. And man, it would suck if you couldn’t be that parent to give your kids all that. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself :)

And none of this changes the original point: IUSD > lake forest public school offerings. So yes, GP Solis marketing itself as the last IUSD GP hood is fair.

For the delta between Lake Forest and Irvine prices (especially GP with mello roos) you could likely hire a graduate math student to tutor your kid four days a week, no?

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2022, 03:29:18 PM »
Too lazy to quote. But this is essentially the classic “when are you ever going to use Calculus argument”. Sleepy must be a big fan of the proposed California math framework. The funny thing is, I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying - I just don’t think we agree on what it takes to get to be all those things. And man, it would suck if you couldn’t be that parent to give your kids all that. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself :)

And none of this changes the original point: IUSD > lake forest public school offerings. So yes, GP Solis marketing itself as the last IUSD GP hood is fair.

For the delta between Lake Forest and Irvine prices (especially GP with mello roos) you could likely hire a graduate math student to tutor your kid four daysr a week, no?

Yes, except we are talking SVUSD zoned GP versus IUSD zoned GP here. Or are you saying there will be a steep discount for the lake forest zoned schools and no MR?

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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2022, 03:55:57 PM »
Stopped by the Pulte homes sales office, possible prison breaks aside I was told this will be the last GP neighborhood that will be part of IUSD, the neighborhood after will be Lake Forest. It’s also located right in between Solis park elementary and Portola HS and walkable which is super convenient.

Is that their way to incentivize you to buy? Last one to be part of IUSD.  ;D

I mean yea? The Lake Forest schools are just not... great. Not that IUSD is phenomenal but at least at IUSD, you get some general baseline.
School = overrated
Parenting = underrated

Lol. Staunch defender of lake forest schools. Do you even have kids?
Nothing to defend. Just speaking from experience. Has nothing to do with what city you are in really. Don't get defensive. I'm not knocking Irvine for having great or bad schools. ;)

I say it a million times but how many ways are there to calculate a derivative or an integral? How often are you going to actually use it in your job? How beneficial is having the latest and greatest facilities going to help by having a "better" education? In the end, it's all about how you are raised and how you conduct yourself as a person. The gritty mindset or lack there of can also be an indicator of future success. Education can only take you so far in life. Sure it's important, but I would argue being able to handle difficult circumstances/situations, building/growing relationships, using failures as motivation to do better, etc is even more important. Do they teach you that in school? Maybe? But definitely something that you most likely will learn as you get older and not necessarily in school.

You're missing the point of the ranking of school districts. All of the bolded part is absolutely irrelevant. The ranking of the school districts gets you into a better university, like the Ivies for most Irvine parents. Has nothing to do with future success in career.
Not true at all. Hawaii has probably the worse school districts in the country. People still get into good schools. "Good" however is subjective. Also, there is a quota for each school I believe or someone mentioned it in the Education section of the forum. If you're looking to get into an ivy league, you best not put your kid in Irvine as your kid is competing with a bunch of other smart kids.

You're also in tech, you know tech companies rarely even look at what university you come from. So who the hell cares what uni you came from? I've interviewed and worked with ivy league students that are great and I've had some that were horrible.

Also, I never argued about IUSD being better or worse or even its ranking. I don't give a crap about rankings as it's completely overrated. Focus on how you raise your kid instead of rankings. No one cares where you went to school TBH.
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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2022, 03:59:08 PM »
Too lazy to quote. But this is essentially the classic “when are you ever going to use Calculus argument”. Sleepy must be a big fan of the proposed California math framework. The funny thing is, I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying - I just don’t think we agree on what it takes to get to be all those things. And man, it would suck if you couldn’t be that parent to give your kids all that. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself :)

And none of this changes the original point: IUSD > lake forest public school offerings. So yes, GP Solis marketing itself as the last IUSD GP hood is fair.
My point was never about IUSD. It's about how parenting > any school districts.

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2022, 04:02:51 PM »
Too lazy to quote. But this is essentially the classic “when are you ever going to use Calculus argument”. Sleepy must be a big fan of the proposed California math framework. The funny thing is, I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying - I just don’t think we agree on what it takes to get to be all those things. And man, it would suck if you couldn’t be that parent to give your kids all that. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself :)

And none of this changes the original point: IUSD > lake forest public school offerings. So yes, GP Solis marketing itself as the last IUSD GP hood is fair.
My point was never about IUSD. It's about how parenting > any school districts.

Funny you decide to do that here, in an Irvine real estate thread, when the words "lake forest schools" were mentioned. Must be a coincidence - did you and the lake forest equity guy plan it?

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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2022, 04:04:49 PM »
Stopped by the Pulte homes sales office, possible prison breaks aside I was told this will be the last GP neighborhood that will be part of IUSD, the neighborhood after will be Lake Forest. It’s also located right in between Solis park elementary and Portola HS and walkable which is super convenient.

Is that their way to incentivize you to buy? Last one to be part of IUSD.  ;D

I mean yea? The Lake Forest schools are just not... great. Not that IUSD is phenomenal but at least at IUSD, you get some general baseline.
School = overrated
Parenting = underrated

Lol. Staunch defender of lake forest schools. Do you even have kids?
Nothing to defend. Just speaking from experience. Has nothing to do with what city you are in really. Don't get defensive. I'm not knocking Irvine for having great or bad schools. ;)

I say it a million times but how many ways are there to calculate a derivative or an integral? How often are you going to actually use it in your job? How beneficial is having the latest and greatest facilities going to help by having a "better" education? In the end, it's all about how you are raised and how you conduct yourself as a person. The gritty mindset or lack there of can also be an indicator of future success. Education can only take you so far in life. Sure it's important, but I would argue being able to handle difficult circumstances/situations, building/growing relationships, using failures as motivation to do better, etc is even more important. Do they teach you that in school? Maybe? But definitely something that you most likely will learn as you get older and not necessarily in school.

You're missing the point of the ranking of school districts. All of the bolded part is absolutely irrelevant. The ranking of the school districts gets you into a better university, like the Ivies for most Irvine parents. Has nothing to do with future success in career.
Not true at all. Hawaii has probably the worse school districts in the country. People still get into good schools. "Good" however is subjective.
Seriously? That's your argument?

Are you saying that the same % of students from IUSD and SVUSD get accepted to Ivies? Just because "some" students from Hawaii get into good school doesn't mean that better school districts don't give you better chance to get into better schools.

And no, "good" is absolutely not subjective. If that's the case, then why do people want to go to the Ivies instead of Cal State schools?  Or just to keep it simple, UC over CSU.

There's an order to things. Good school districts give you better chance at better universities. Better universities give you a better chance at landing a good job.

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Re: Great Park - Solis Park
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2022, 04:06:57 PM »
Stopped by the Pulte homes sales office, possible prison breaks aside I was told this will be the last GP neighborhood that will be part of IUSD, the neighborhood after will be Lake Forest. It’s also located right in between Solis park elementary and Portola HS and walkable which is super convenient.

Is that their way to incentivize you to buy? Last one to be part of IUSD.  ;D

I mean yea? The Lake Forest schools are just not... great. Not that IUSD is phenomenal but at least at IUSD, you get some general baseline.
School = overrated
Parenting = underrated

Lol. Staunch defender of lake forest schools. Do you even have kids?
Nothing to defend. Just speaking from experience. Has nothing to do with what city you are in really. Don't get defensive. I'm not knocking Irvine for having great or bad schools. ;)

I say it a million times but how many ways are there to calculate a derivative or an integral? How often are you going to actually use it in your job? How beneficial is having the latest and greatest facilities going to help by having a "better" education? In the end, it's all about how you are raised and how you conduct yourself as a person. The gritty mindset or lack there of can also be an indicator of future success. Education can only take you so far in life. Sure it's important, but I would argue being able to handle difficult circumstances/situations, building/growing relationships, using failures as motivation to do better, etc is even more important. Do they teach you that in school? Maybe? But definitely something that you most likely will learn as you get older and not necessarily in school.

You're missing the point of the ranking of school districts. All of the bolded part is absolutely irrelevant. The ranking of the school districts gets you into a better university, like the Ivies for most Irvine parents. Has nothing to do with future success in career.
Not true at all. Hawaii has probably the worse school districts in the country. People still get into good schools. "Good" however is subjective.
Seriously? That's your argument?

Are you saying that the same % of students from IUSD and SVUSD get accepted to Ivies? Just because "some" students from Hawaii get into good school doesn't mean that better school districts don't give you better chance to get into better schools.

And no, "good" is absolutely not subjective. If that's the case, then why do people want to go to the Ivies instead of Cal State schools?  Or just to keep it simple, UC over CSU.

There's an order to things. Good school districts give you better chance at better universities. Better universities give you a better chance at landing a good job.
Nope, quotas exist.
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