Work in office or remote?

[sleepy5136]

Remote work era entering it's twilight

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/02/google-tells-employees-to-return-to-offices-in-april.html

If this does become the norm for companies in the near future, watch out for RE prices in areas like TX, AZ, etc. Ppl literally moved out of SV to avoid HCOL.

People been moving to AZ for years, way before the pandemic. Lots of businesses are going there, chip companies, EV, amazon, etc. That increase in population because of jobs has led to increased household formation.

The pandemic has led to folks living in HCOL to move to lower cost of living areas.

[USCTrojanCPA]

I think a lot of companies who will remain remote and/or mostly remote will be looked upon favorably by employees.

[Kenkoko]

My company went almost the full circle.

From  full remote -> hybrid -> management pushing everyone back into the office -> huge pushback from employees -> back to hybrid -> now 90% remote

I think remote is here to stay for the foreseeable future.

[qwerty]

My company went almost the full circle.

From  full remote -> hybrid -> management pushing everyone back into the office -> huge pushback from employees -> back to hybrid -> now 90% remote

I think remote is here to stay for the foreseeable future.

I think this it will play out this way for a lot of companies. Not sure what the catalyst would be to get people back into the office.  I probably work more because I work from home than I would if had to go to the office.

[CalBears96]

My company went almost the full circle.

From  full remote -> hybrid -> management pushing everyone back into the office -> huge pushback from employees -> back to hybrid -> now 90% remote

I think remote is here to stay for the foreseeable future.

My company did this:

March 2020 - May 2020 - full remote
May 2020 - July 2020 - 25% (team A go in for 2 weeks, then team B for 2 weeks, etc.)
July 2020 - July 2021 - 50% (teams A/B go in for 2 weeks, then teams C/D for 2 weeks)
July 2021 - Jan 2022 - full office
Jan 2022 - Last Friday - 50% again due to Omicron
This Monday - - full office again

No pushback from employees because our CEO was having none of that.  We have vaccine mandate, so probably 98%+ of the employees are fully vaccinated + boosted. We had to upload proof of vaccination to internal website.

[irvinehomeowner]

A friend of mine is involved in office space planning for her company and she and her team wants to stay remote so she doesn't know how to tell her company that she doesn't need an office or team area.

She's asking for a team huddle room that other teams can use as it will only be used several times a month (if that).

[morekaos]

Welcome back!!…what no bidet?….

Irate Google workers lash out at execs for cutting WFH staff salaries during heated town hall meeting - while those returning to tech titan's California HQ are furious the BIDETS are being removed from restrooms

Google execs faced a barrage of compensation questions at recent town hall
Employee satisfaction with compensation plunged in recent internal survey
Google has been adjusting salaries to match local markets for remote workers
Meanwhile, staff returning to HQ are upset that bidets are disappearing
The luxurious bathroom perk runs afoul of Google's efforts to conserve water

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10653671/Irate-Google-workers-lash-compensation-removal-office-bidets.html

[USCTrojanCPA]

Welcome back!!…what no bidet?….

Irate Google workers lash out at execs for cutting WFH staff salaries during heated town hall meeting - while those returning to tech titan's California HQ are furious the BIDETS are being removed from restrooms

Google execs faced a barrage of compensation questions at recent town hall
Employee satisfaction with compensation plunged in recent internal survey
Google has been adjusting salaries to match local markets for remote workers
Meanwhile, staff returning to HQ are upset that bidets are disappearing
The luxurious bathroom perk runs afoul of Google's efforts to conserve water

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10653671/Irate-Google-workers-lash-compensation-removal-office-bidets.html

Oh the humanity!!!

[OCtoSV]

Bay Area moving to OC can expect minimum 25% comp cut, probably more like 40-50% when factoring in promotion inertia

[chromatin]

I work for a company based in SF (hired during covid) I have a 10% cut from the salaries of my peers in SF.

[OCtoSV]

That's not bad! Are you early in your career or 5+ yrs experienced?

[chromatin]

5+ years in my career California remote for us is 90%, Utah is 80%, Texas/Florida is 70%

[OCtoSV]

What many people don't realize is the comp figures are based on the geo market comp averages, not cost of living. When I interview people from outside the Bay area I am always amazed at how low their salary ask is.

[morekaos]

Endgame....

Fed-up managers declare WFH is over, as 77% say they’d fire you or cut your pay for not coming back to the office

Working from home. It was fun while it lasted?

https://fortune.com/2022/04/07/remote-work-from-home-is-over-firing-pay-cut/

[irvinehomeowner]

Endgame....

Not in my micro view... The Great Resignation is seeing the execs fold to demands for WFH... it cost way more to replace someone (esp a tenured worker) than to keep them (moreso if they are at home and don't require office space).

Caveat: This is more for tech/engineering types.