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CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« on: January 10, 2022, 05:45:02 PM »
"CDC Changes Language on Boosters, Encourages Public to Stay ‘Up to Date’ Instead of ‘Fully Vaccinated’

Top health officials said they do not intend to change the definition of fully vaccinated to include a booster dose of a coronavirus vaccine but appeared to swap the language out for another phrase, asking Americans to stay “up to date” on their coronavirus vaccinations – marking a notable shift in the agency’s messaging  ...The CDC page now describes how individuals can ...stay up to date with additional doses that they are eligible for"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-changes-language-on-boosters-encourages-public-to-stay-e2-80-98up-to-date-e2-80-99-instead-of-e2-80-98fully-vaccinated-e2-80-99/ar-AASteTr
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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 06:03:28 PM »
To "stay up to date":

Pfizer:  stay up to date with a 3rd dose 5 months after the initial 2nd dose
Moderna:  stay up date with a 3rd dose 5 months after the initial 2nd dose
J&J: stay up to date with a 2nd dose 2 months after the initial dose
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html

Some people are now eligible for a 4th dose (immunocomprised for now but some states are requesting that CDC include others).
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cdc-immunocompromised-eligible-for-4th-covid-19-shot-this-week/287-1c6cd428-104e-4e98-9ad3-a2efd948e39e
Virginia asking CDC to allow their citizens (for now those over 50 and essential workers) stay up to date with a 4th dose 3 months after their 3rd dose
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/588668-west-virginia-requesting-federal-permission-to-administer-fourth-vaccine
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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 08:44:06 PM »
At some point daily Covid infections will be on a scroll across the bottom of TV screens. Like a sports score update or the old school stock market prices.

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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2022, 07:17:38 PM »
Apple to Require Employee Proof of COVID-19 Booster:

"Due to waning efficacy of the primary series of COVID-19 vaccines and the emergence of highly transmissible variants such as Omicron, a booster shot is now part of staying up to date with your COVID-19 vaccination to protect against severe disease,"
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-15/apple-to-require-employee-proof-of-covid-19-booster-the-verge

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UC Schools Will Require COVID Booster Upon Return To Campus:

“Under existing UC policy, students, faculty, and staff are required to keep their vaccination status up to date” University of California President Michael V. Drake said in a letter Tuesday. “The policy mandates COVID-19 boosters for those who are eligible.”
https://www.laweekly.com/uc-schools-will-require-covid-booster-upon-return-to-campus/

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Music Center to Require Proof of Vaccine Booster:

"Los Angeles audiences will have to stay up to date on their vaccinations. The Music Center — L.A.’s downtown performing arts complex that includes Walt Disney Concert Hall, Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, Ahmanson Theatre, and Mark Taper Forum — is requiring a COVID-19 booster shot for entry to its indoor venues."
https://www.sfcv.org/articles/music-news/music-center-require-proof-vaccine-booster

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'Fully vaccinated' for COVID? Now you need a booster to be 'up to date':

"Individuals are considered fully vaccinated against COVID-19 if they've received their primary series," CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said at the Jan. 5 White House COVID briefing. "That definition is not changing ... but we are now recommending individuals stay up to date with additional doses they are eligible for." ...Though the official definition of "fully vaccinated" isn't likely to change, Fauci has said three shots should be considered the new baseline. ...Israel's national coronavirus czar, Dr. Salman Zarka, told his country it should prepare for a fourth dose of an mRNA vaccine. Fauci has said that the need for a fourth jab is "conceivable" in the US"
https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/does-fully-vaccinated-for-covid-mean-three-shots-learn-where-boosters-are-required/

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So instead of changing the definition of "fully vaccinated," they can redefine what eligibility means, (i.e. eligible for the next booster after xx months - recently changed from 6 months to 5 months) which necessarily dictates the number of boosters recommended per year.  Based on this information, corporations and schools may mandate additional boosters as exemplified in the above referenced links.

This is odd since how are you "fully vaccinated" if you have to have additional shots.  (The word "fully" leads you to assume that no more shots are necessary.  Something is full if there is no more room for additions.)  Being "fully vaccinated" and needing additional shots are contradictory statements.  So it doesn't make sense, but it is certainly a clever trick to make people feel better about additional shots.
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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2022, 07:42:50 PM »
Some are coming around….

After SCOTUS' Hit, Companies are Ditching Their Vaccine Mandates Like a Bad Habit

A growing number of health care systems and other companies, including Amtrak and General Electric, are suspending mandates that require employees to be vaccinated against Covid-19.

The move follows court rulings in recent weeks that paused such requirements from the Biden administration for health care workers and federal contractors. Still, the decision about whether to require vaccinations remained up to individual employers.

https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2022/01/14/after-scotus-hit-companies-are-ditching-their-vaccine-mandates-like-a-bad-habit-n506906

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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2022, 07:57:54 PM »
The line between COVID and common cold, is getting blurred.. infection of one can help protect against the other...

And they are talking about 2nd generation of vaccine already...

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/t-cells-common-colds-can-provide-protection-against-covid-19-study-2022-01-10/

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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2022, 08:23:29 PM »
I wonder if employers will also require the flu vaccine. And I wonder how many boosters for Covid will be required by Apple and others. I can’t imagine employees being happy about having to get two boosters per year if that is what is ultimately required.

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Re: CDC Changes Language on Boosters
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2022, 10:14:29 PM »
"Staying up to date" according to the CEO of Pfizer:

Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any.  3 doses with a booster (that's 4 total shots) offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths.  ...And less protection against the infection. ... We are working on a new vaccine (that's shot #5)...that will cover Omicron as well and ...the vaccine will be ready in March (2022)"
https://twitter.com/YALiberty/status/1480668523944820738
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