freedomcm said:Efficacy against *infection* appears to wane for omicron (not delta), but protection against serious disease/ICU/death apparently is holding up well.
morekaos said:Maybe I just haven't seen it but is there any proof to the "I had Covid but it would have been worse if I hadn't been vaccinated." trope? I can tell from my experiences that in our cluster of 2 with vaccines and 2 without, the two with vaccines had worse symptoms not better. Everyone says that but you can't prove a negative.
morekaos said:Can you source and post those numbers please?
morekaos said:Can you source and post those numbers please?
morekaos said:Maybe I just haven't seen it but is there any proof to the "I had Covid but it would have been worse if I hadn't been vaccinated." trope? I can tell from my experiences that in our cluster of 2 with vaccines and 2 without, the two with vaccines had worse symptoms not better. Everyone says that but you can't prove a negative.
- New research suggests the Omicron variant is associated with an increased ability to evade immunity from prior infection.
- This finding has important implications for public health planning, particularly in countries with high rates of immunity from prior infection.
- The ability of the virus to potentially evade natural immunity is the result of a complex mutation.
irvinehomeowner said:morekaos said:Maybe I just haven't seen it but is there any proof to the "I had Covid but it would have been worse if I hadn't been vaccinated." trope? I can tell from my experiences that in our cluster of 2 with vaccines and 2 without, the two with vaccines had worse symptoms not better. Everyone says that but you can't prove a negative.
And is there any proof of the "trope" that "natural immunity" will protect you from Omicron better?
Maybe not:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/12/omicron-immunity-from-prior-infection-less-effective/
- New research suggests the Omicron variant is associated with an increased ability to evade immunity from prior infection.
- This finding has important implications for public health planning, particularly in countries with high rates of immunity from prior infection.
- The ability of the virus to potentially evade natural immunity is the result of a complex mutation.
Take care of yourself morekaos... you're not invincible.
irvinehomeowner said:morekaos said:Maybe I just haven't seen it but is there any proof to the "I had Covid but it would have been worse if I hadn't been vaccinated." trope? I can tell from my experiences that in our cluster of 2 with vaccines and 2 without, the two with vaccines had worse symptoms not better. Everyone says that but you can't prove a negative.
And is there any proof of the "trope" that "natural immunity" will protect you from Omicron better?
Maybe not:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/12/omicron-immunity-from-prior-infection-less-effective/
- New research suggests the Omicron variant is associated with an increased ability to evade immunity from prior infection.
- This finding has important implications for public health planning, particularly in countries with high rates of immunity from prior infection.
- The ability of the virus to potentially evade natural immunity is the result of a complex mutation.
Take care of yourself morekaos... you're not invincible.
akula1488 said:World Economic Forum is your source for COVID/Science?
Whatever makes you sleep.
morekaos said:Honestly, I really don't care...Omicron is tearing through almost everyone I know. Most of my kids friends have either had it or have it now...all are just fine, some vaxed some not. I've been exposed at least 5 times...If I get it I get it...whatever...as I said virus is virusing.
irvinehomeowner said:morekaos said:Honestly, I really don't care...Omicron is tearing through almost everyone I know. Most of my kids friends have either had it or have it now...all are just fine, some vaxed some not. I've been exposed at least 5 times...If I get it I get it...whatever...as I said virus is virusing.
Bro... no one cares about your macho personal half-truths.
Just remember you've been warned.
Do you see Kings around here anymore? I hope nothing happened to him Covid related because it's weird he just disappeared. He was pretty lackadaisical about Covid too.