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"The latest figures published by the new UK Health Security Agency on Covid-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths show that the vaccinated population still accounted for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 deaths over the past four weeks even though those who are deemed to be the most vulnerable to Covid-19 received their “booster” jab in September and October."
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/18/triple-vaccinated-account-4-in-5-covid-deaths/

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I post this not to be against vaccines (I am double vax'ed) but to show that the current vaccines are not working and therefore should not be mandated.  People should NOT be losing their livelihoods (jobs) or banned from going to school or banned from buying groceries or going to jail for not being vaccinated.  It isn't working.  That's why the interval between boosters (went from NO booster to one a year to 6 months to now 2-3 months) are getting shorter and shorter.  Why punish people for not getting a booster shot if it isn't working?  We want people boosted to help them, but the vaccines are not working, and yet we punish the very people we are trying to help by making them lose their jobs, putting them in jail, etc.  The disease survivability rate is 99+%.

Eyephone, nosuchreality and calbear.  Please make this make sense.

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Table 11 is more telling.  Yes, vax are getting Covid in higher rates.  The Unvaxxed are ending up in the emergency room, hospital and dead at much higher rates across all age groups except under 18.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf#page39
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Why do we need to vaccinate kids under 18? By this table vaccine is more harmful to them. Maybe this is misinformation and UK have a lot of Trump supporters?

Table 11 is more telling.  Yes, vax are getting Covid in higher rates.  The Unvaxxed are ending up in the emergency room, hospital and dead at much higher rates across all age groups except under 18.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf#page39

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Why do we need to vaccinate kids under 18? By this table vaccine is more harmful to them. Maybe this is misinformation and UK have a lot of Trump supporters?

Table 11 is more telling.  Yes, vax are getting Covid in higher rates.  The Unvaxxed are ending up in the emergency room, hospital and dead at much higher rates across all age groups except under 18.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf#page39

The answer to that is on Table 11 and Table 9.

On Table 11, we see the infection rate of those under 18 and unvaxxed is 2960.4 per 100,000 people. For vaxxed people under 18, the rate is 503.9 per 100,000.  Nearly 6x the infection rate.

Switching to Table 9, patients requiring overnight hospital admission for under 18, there was a total of 634 cases. 21 are unlinked.  9 have had 2nd dose more than two weeks ago (full effect), 37 have one dose and  567 are completely unvaccinated.

Table 11 confirms that hospitalizations impacts on unvaxxed in the grouping column, under 18 unvaxxed are hospitalized at 5.4 per 100,000 The under 18 vaxxed are hospitalized at a rate of 3.5 per 100,000.   

Figure 7, shows vax rate by dose by population group.  They are near zero for under 12, roughly steep curve to 45% for 13-under 16.
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5.4 vs 3.5, per 100,000 need hospitalization. It is extreme rare. And the difference is 1.9 per 100,000 which is statistical insignificant. Under 18 probably have more chance of vaccine adverse effects, not worth the risk of having  0.002% less chance in hospitalization.

Why do we need to vaccinate kids under 18? By this table vaccine is more harmful to them. Maybe this is misinformation and UK have a lot of Trump supporters?

Table 11 is more telling.  Yes, vax are getting Covid in higher rates.  The Unvaxxed are ending up in the emergency room, hospital and dead at much higher rates across all age groups except under 18.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf#page39

The answer to that is on Table 11 and Table 9.

On Table 11, we see the infection rate of those under 18 and unvaxxed is 2960.4 per 100,000 people. For vaxxed people under 18, the rate is 503.9 per 100,000.  Nearly 6x the infection rate.

Switching to Table 9, patients requiring overnight hospital admission for under 18, there was a total of 634 cases. 21 are unlinked.  9 have had 2nd dose more than two weeks ago (full effect), 37 have one dose and  567 are completely unvaccinated.

Table 11 confirms that hospitalizations impacts on unvaxxed in the grouping column, under 18 unvaxxed are hospitalized at 5.4 per 100,000 The under 18 vaxxed are hospitalized at a rate of 3.5 per 100,000.   

Figure 7, shows vax rate by dose by population group.  They are near zero for under 12, roughly steep curve to 45% for 13-under 16.

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I post this not to be against vaccines (I am double vax'ed) but to show that the current vaccines are not working and therefore should not be mandated.  People should NOT be losing their livelihoods (jobs) or banned from going to school or banned from buying groceries or going to jail for not being vaccinated.  It isn't working.  That's why the interval between boosters (went from NO booster to one a year to 6 months to now 2-3 months) are getting shorter and shorter.  Why punish people for not getting a booster shot if it isn't working?  We want people boosted to help them, but the vaccines are not working, and yet we punish the very people we are trying to help by making them lose their jobs, putting them in jail, etc.  The disease survivability rate is 99+%. 2 player games

Eyephone, nosuchreality and calbear.  Please make this make sense.

Covid 19 is a global epidemic and there is no specific medicine, almost everyone has been vaccinated by this time.

 

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