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FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« on: November 21, 2021, 10:40:40 AM »
FDA took 108 days to review documents/data to approve Pfizer's vaccine but wants 55 years or until 2076 to process a Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) request over vaccine data.

"The plaintiffs, a group of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown, filed suit in September in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, seeking expedited access to the records. They say that releasing the information could help reassure vaccine skeptics that the shot is indeed “safe and effective and, thus, increase confidence in the Pfizer vaccine....Plaintiffs' lawyers argue that their request should be top priority, and that the FDA should release all the material no later than March 3, 2022."  [i.e. they are giving the FDA approx. 108 days to review and release data under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).]

“This 108-day period is the same amount of time it took the FDA to review the responsive documents for the far more intricate task of licensing Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine,”

“The entire purpose of the FOIA is to assure government transparency,” they continued. “It is difficult to imagine a greater need for transparency than immediate disclosure of the documents relied upon by the FDA to license a product that is now being mandated to over 100 million Americans under penalty of losing their careers, their income, their military service status, and far worse.”

"...the plaintiffs note that the FDA has 18,000 employees and a budget of $6 billion and “has itself said that there is nothing more important than the licensure of this vaccine and being transparent about this vaccine.”...To be sure, most people ... lack the expertise to evaluate the information.  But the plaintiffs, who also include overseas professors from the UK, Germany, Denmark, Australia and Canada, appear to be well-positioned to do so."

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/
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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2021, 03:19:07 PM »
Only blind leftists cannot see all the signs.
If they really want people who are unvaccined, to be vaccinated, they should be more open and release all the relevant data, and remove immunity for the bio pharmaceutical companies. They should also fast track other more traditional vaccines like Covaxin so people on the fence about mRNA vaccines will be on board.



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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2021, 09:01:51 PM »
They should also fast track other more traditional vaccines like Covaxin so people on the fence about mRNA vaccines will be on board.

Isn't that what J&J is for?

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2021, 09:53:05 PM »
Only blind leftists cannot see all the signs.
If they really want people who are unvaccined, to be vaccinated, they should be more open and release all the relevant data, and remove immunity for the bio pharmaceutical companies. They should also fast track other more traditional vaccines like Covaxin so people on the fence about mRNA vaccines will be on board.

Blind? You cant see people dying of covid.

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 06:56:06 AM »
After looking at the story, they are requesting 329,000 pages of patient records, which have to be scrubbed of patient identifying info.

The FDA responded that the office that does the de-identifying has a limited capacity, and it would be slow.  The plaintiffs argued that the entire FDA workforce should be devoted to this task.

Personally, I would rather the rest of the FDA employees continue their task of evaluating new therapies for cancer, heart disease, etc.

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 10:58:20 AM »
Maybe the Republicans can propose a new bill directing the FDA to require all submissions to done in duplicate, one unredacted for the FDA, one redacted of patient and proprietary information ready for public consumption of all filings.

Oh wait, that’s an icky regulation.

First it was “not approved”, then it’s “don’t force me”, now it’s show me everything, once that’s done it’ll be give me the other stuff.

Just let them lube up with parasite cream.  Open the hospitals so they can just visit their dying friends with the hoax. 

At this point, it’s fast food and cigarettes.  Open the gates and stay out of the smoking section.

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2021, 09:11:07 PM »
Science
Does mRNA vaccine increase your chance of having heart issues?
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2021, 09:43:07 PM »
Maybe the Republicans can propose a new bill directing the FDA to require all submissions to done in duplicate, one unredacted for the FDA, one redacted of patient and proprietary information ready for public consumption of all filings.

Oh wait, that’s an icky regulation.

First it was “not approved”, then it’s “don’t force me”, now it’s show me everything, once that’s done it’ll be give me the other stuff.

Just let them lube up with parasite cream.  Open the hospitals so they can just visit their dying friends with the hoax. 

At this point, it’s fast food and cigarettes.  Open the gates and stay out of the smoking section.

the next wave may be coming, good luck!

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2021, 10:15:02 PM »
Next wave is already starting. We're seeing an increase in cases now. With holidays coming, it'll be soon. This will be a repeat of last year.

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2021, 10:48:23 PM »
The war will go on…and on…and on…


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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2021, 07:16:39 AM »
With hospitals full, Central California pleading to send COVID-19 patients to L.A.

The COVID-19 surge still affecting Central California is so dire that health officials are pleading with state officials to make it easier to transfer hospital patients to areas like Los Angeles County.

“We don’t have enough hospitals to serve the population and the needs,” said Dr. Rais Vohra, the Fresno County interim health officer. Hospitals across the entire San Joaquin Valley are “often running over capacity, so that they’re holding dozens and dozens of patients in the emergency department.”

Officials in the San Joaquin Valley are expecting a difficult winter. Vaccination rates are still relatively low, and in Fresno County, the region’s most populous county, the COVID-19 hospitalization rate is quadruple what is being seen in L.A. and Orange counties, and more than quintuple that of the San Francisco Bay Area.

Hospitals are consistently operating above capacity, and emergency rooms are still so packed that ambulances are stuck waiting outside hospitals to drop off patients, said Dale Dotson, operations coordinator for the Central California Emergency Medical Services Agency.[/quote]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-23/central-california-pleading-to-send-covid-19-patients-to-l-a-as-hospital-fill-up


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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2021, 08:32:07 AM »
Isn't it time to ask?...

If the Vaccines Work, Why Aren't They Working?

The CDC on its website claims, “Research provides evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing COVID-19.” Yet cases in highly vaccinated locations are surging, now almost two years into the COVID pandemic. As Billy Beane might say, “If the vaccines work, why aren’t they working?”

Are they effective? The CDC answers an emphatic yes,

COVID-19 study shows mRNA vaccines reduce risk of infection by 91 percent for fully vaccinated people. Vaccination makes illness milder, shorter for the few vaccinated people who do get COVID-19.

Does the real world agree and support the CDC’s optimism? Gibraltar is more than fully vaccinated, they are 118 percent vaccinated, meaning that many fully vaccinated have had booster injections too. Yet this headline doesn’t jive with CDC assertions, “Most vaccinated place on Earth told to cancel holiday plans amid an exponential rise in COVID cases.”

Pick another country: “93% vaccinated Ireland has gone into partial lockdown, including midnight curfew.” This recent headline too, “COVID surge in Singapore despite 80 percent vaccination.” Or from the U.K. where the Spectator reported, “The rates of Covid infection per 100,000 are now higher among the vaxxed than the unvaxxed.”

Closer to home it’s much the same, “Vermont has the highest vaccination rate in the country. So why are cases surging?” My home state of Colorado is singing from the same hymnal, “Colorado’s COVID hospitalizations jump again as virus’ statewide death toll surpasses 9,000.” Colorado’s 12 and up population is over 80 percent partially or fully vaccinated.

If these numbers are misinformation, tell that to big media. I am quoting their headlines.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/11/if_the_vaccines_work_why_arent_they_working.html

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2021, 08:40:32 AM »
With hospitals full, Central California pleading to send COVID-19 patients to L.A.

The COVID-19 surge still affecting Central California is so dire that health officials are pleading with state officials to make it easier to transfer hospital patients to areas like Los Angeles County.

“We don’t have enough hospitals to serve the population and the needs,” said Dr. Rais Vohra, the Fresno County interim health officer. Hospitals across the entire San Joaquin Valley are “often running over capacity, so that they’re holding dozens and dozens of patients in the emergency department.”

Officials in the San Joaquin Valley are expecting a difficult winter. Vaccination rates are still relatively low, and in Fresno County, the region’s most populous county, the COVID-19 hospitalization rate is quadruple what is being seen in L.A. and Orange counties, and more than quintuple that of the San Francisco Bay Area.

Hospitals are consistently operating above capacity, and emergency rooms are still so packed that ambulances are stuck waiting outside hospitals to drop off patients, said Dale Dotson, operations coordinator for the Central California Emergency Medical Services Agency.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-23/central-california-pleading-to-send-covid-19-patients-to-l-a-as-hospital-fill-up
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Someone should tell them that the covid shots are free if you have insurance or not.
If you dont have insurance, there is a form to fill out. (Sign and date it)

* I know there are people are on the fence. But as of now this is the best option from having complications from the rona.

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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2021, 09:05:01 AM »
With hospitals full, Central California pleading to send COVID-19 patients to L.A.

The COVID-19 surge still affecting Central California is so dire that health officials are pleading with state officials to make it easier to transfer hospital patients to areas like Los Angeles County.

“We don’t have enough hospitals to serve the population and the needs,” said Dr. Rais Vohra, the Fresno County interim health officer. Hospitals across the entire San Joaquin Valley are “often running over capacity, so that they’re holding dozens and dozens of patients in the emergency department.”

Officials in the San Joaquin Valley are expecting a difficult winter. Vaccination rates are still relatively low, and in Fresno County, the region’s most populous county, the COVID-19 hospitalization rate is quadruple what is being seen in L.A. and Orange counties, and more than quintuple that of the San Francisco Bay Area.

Hospitals are consistently operating above capacity, and emergency rooms are still so packed that ambulances are stuck waiting outside hospitals to drop off patients, said Dale Dotson, operations coordinator for the Central California Emergency Medical Services Agency.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-23/central-california-pleading-to-send-covid-19-patients-to-l-a-as-hospital-fill-up

Someone should tell them that the covid shots are free if you have insurance or not.
If you dont have insurance, there is a form to fill out. (Sign and date it)

* I know there are people are on the fence. But as of now this is the best option from having complications from the rona.

Nothing is FREE...

Nothing from the government is “free.” Recipients may not be charged but that is not the same as “free.” The government produces nothing and therefore is not able to offer anything for free. They confiscate money from those they lord over and redistribute it back to those from whom they took it.

The Pfizer vaccine costs the government about $20 per dose, with the other COVID vaccines in the same ballpark. Some 445 million doses of vaccine have been administered in the U.S. to date. That’s $9 billion right there. Spending on research and development has been estimated at $40 billion, pushing the total north of $50 billion, and likely much higher given the many hidden or non-transparent costs.

If these numbers seem off, major vaccine maker Pfizer expects $36 billion in COVID vaccine revenues in 2021, in the same range as the above numbers. While the vaccine may be free to the person getting jabbed, someone is paying the tab for the vaccine, syringe, and time of the person administering the shot. It always works that way – nothing is really “free.”  As Billy Beane might say, “If the vaccines are free, why do they cost so much?”


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Re: FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2021, 09:09:54 AM »
$20 is a lot cheaper than thousands of dollars owed to the hospital or even death gg

 

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