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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2021, 10:10:22 PM »
And who are you citing? Each side seems to have their own “facts”

What you cite is mostly misinformation. There is no such thing as "alternative facts," as you conservatives like to call it. Facts have NO sides.

Fact: 2 + 2 = 4
Conservatives' alternative fact: 2 + 2 = 5


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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2021, 10:12:23 PM »
Which are real world “facts” …you decide.  Most of what you are fed ( by all sides) are lies. ;D ;D >:D

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2021, 10:15:51 PM »
And who are you citing? Each side seems to have their own “facts”

What you cite is mostly misinformation. There is no such thing as "alternative facts," as you conservatives like to call it. Facts have NO sides.

Fact: 2 + 2 = 4
Conservatives' alternative fact: 2 + 2 = 5



…or defund the police = less crime…I love that alternative fact. Or get vaccinated = no masks and a return to normal. Or “mostly” peaceful protests…or most of the homeless are just down on their luck and just need a helping hand and some empathy….I could go on and on…
;D ;D >:D
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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2021, 09:49:10 AM »
@zubs,
I haven’t really expressed my position on pro or not on mandating the vaccine in this discussion. I just always have lots of questions. I think it’s a bit stretch to add the covid vaccine on the list of school requirement, but I don’t have power to change what the government decides to do and I’m not an expert on this matter as you well saw. I can still ask, right? Now that I hear from morekaos that USC requires flu vaccine for students, who knows what the heck is going on anymore?

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2021, 11:44:06 AM »
And who are you citing? Each side seems to have their own “facts”

What you cite is mostly misinformation. There is no such thing as "alternative facts," as you conservatives like to call it. Facts have NO sides.

Fact: 2 + 2 = 4
Conservatives' alternative fact: 2 + 2 = 5



…or defund the police = less crime…I love that alternative fact. Or get vaccinated = no masks and a return to normal. Or “mostly” peaceful protests…or most of the homeless are just down on their luck and just need a helping hand and some empathy….I could go on and on…
;D ;D >:D

Seems like you're confusing opinions with facts. That's what conservatives do. Muddle opinions with misinformation and call it facts.

"Defund the police = less crime" is an opinion, not a fact.
"Get vaccinated = no masks" would be fact if it weren't for all you anti-vaxxers standing in the way of herd immunity.

Seriously, learn the difference between opinions and facts, so that you stop getting "alternative facts".

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2021, 11:49:21 AM »
@zubs,
I haven’t really expressed my position on pro or not on mandating the vaccine in this discussion. I just always have lots of questions. I think it’s a bit stretch to add the covid vaccine on the list of school requirement, but I don’t have power to change what the government decides to do and I’m not an expert on this matter as you well saw. I can still ask, right? Now that I hear from morekaos that USC requires flu vaccine for students, who knows what the heck is going on anymore?

I support the government mandating the covid19 vaccine because:
1. Covid19 kills @ a higher rate than influenza
2. The people we pay to study this crap said getting the vaccine > !getting vaccine

Why is adding the covid vaccine to the school vaccine requirements a stretch?

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2021, 12:00:04 PM »
And who are you citing? Each side seems to have their own “facts”

What you cite is mostly misinformation. There is no such thing as "alternative facts," as you conservatives like to call it. Facts have NO sides.

Fact: 2 + 2 = 4
Conservatives' alternative fact: 2 + 2 = 5



…or defund the police = less crime…I love that alternative fact. Or get vaccinated = no masks and a return to normal. Or “mostly” peaceful protests…or most of the homeless are just down on their luck and just need a helping hand and some empathy….I could go on and on…
;D ;D >:D

Seems like you're confusing opinions with facts. That's what conservatives do. Muddle opinions with misinformation and call it facts.

"Defund the police = less crime" is an opinion, not a fact.
"Get vaccinated = no masks" would be fact if it weren't for all you anti-vaxxers standing in the way of herd immunity.

Seriously, learn the difference between opinions and facts, so that you stop getting "alternative facts".


Vaccines are 90% effective = vaccines are only 50% effective...opinion or fact? 


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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2021, 12:15:52 PM »
A year ago I was paying $2.90 for a gallon of gas = $6.00 a gallon gas...fact or just my opinion.  Numbers...just numbers.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #68 on: October 12, 2021, 12:27:41 PM »
A year ago I was paying $2.90 for a gallon of gas = $6.00 a gallon gas...fact or just my opinion.  Numbers...just numbers.

Except gas now is about $4.00. Stop lying.

Also, what does that have to do with anything? A year ago, demand was less because fewer people were driving. I mean, seriously. Stop using misinformation.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2021, 12:29:39 PM »
And who are you citing? Each side seems to have their own “facts”

What you cite is mostly misinformation. There is no such thing as "alternative facts," as you conservatives like to call it. Facts have NO sides.

Fact: 2 + 2 = 4
Conservatives' alternative fact: 2 + 2 = 5



…or defund the police = less crime…I love that alternative fact. Or get vaccinated = no masks and a return to normal. Or “mostly” peaceful protests…or most of the homeless are just down on their luck and just need a helping hand and some empathy….I could go on and on…
;D ;D >:D

Seems like you're confusing opinions with facts. That's what conservatives do. Muddle opinions with misinformation and call it facts.

"Defund the police = less crime" is an opinion, not a fact.
"Get vaccinated = no masks" would be fact if it weren't for all you anti-vaxxers standing in the way of herd immunity.

Seriously, learn the difference between opinions and facts, so that you stop getting "alternative facts".


Vaccines are 90% effective = vaccines are only 50% effective...opinion or fact? 


There you go again. Lying. Hospitals in a lot of US states have COVID patients, 95% of whom are unvaccinated.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2021, 12:32:29 PM »
A year ago I was paying $2.90 for a gallon of gas = $6.00 a gallon gas...fact or just my opinion.  Numbers...just numbers.

Except gas now is about $4.00. Stop lying.

Also, what does that have to do with anything? A year ago, demand was less because fewer people were driving. I mean, seriously. Stop using misinformation.

See..your opinion is its only $4.00. I actually took that picture last week from my car.  My "opinion" or is it now a "fact" is that Gas is much higher...Realsville ;D ;D >:D

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2021, 12:38:31 PM »
Again...my fact, is that in my own family (2 vaccinated, 2 unvaccinated) that 100% got infected.  That means the vaccine was 0% effective.  And don't say it made things better because the vaccinated individuals had the worse symptoms and were the healthiest.  All in all it was a flu for us. The world will get to natural immunity all on its own (virus gotta virus) but the government will try to take credit.  I have said this all along...we are ALL going to get this and we will never be rid of it.  I for one am happy with my natural immunity...I will never wear a mask again. ;D ;D >:D

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2021, 01:50:44 PM »
@zubs,
I haven’t really expressed my position on pro or not on mandating the vaccine in this discussion. I just always have lots of questions. I think it’s a bit stretch to add the covid vaccine on the list of school requirement, but I don’t have power to change what the government decides to do and I’m not an expert on this matter as you well saw. I can still ask, right? Now that I hear from morekaos that USC requires flu vaccine for students, who knows what the heck is going on anymore?

I support the government mandating the covid19 vaccine because:
1. Covid19 kills @ a higher rate than influenza
2. The people we pay to study this crap said getting the vaccine > !getting vaccine

Why is adding the covid vaccine to the school vaccine requirements a stretch?

I don't follow things just because the "experts" say so. It's like Stone Cold Steve Austin - "Because I said so." I ask questions and test before I put my trust in anything, not just on the vaccine.

Yes, Covid-19 killed many, but we're now having advanced technology and science to even make pills to cure covid. Why necessary to put it along the same category with things like hepatitis and potentially blocking many young students who might not prefer getting it? I mean, if covid was so severe on older people, they should have made it mandatory for older people. They left it open to choose for older folks while trying to mandate for kids as little as 5 now. It seems a bit strange to me. No, it's not a conspiracy theorist thinking. It's a logical thinking process for a human being. To me at least.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2021, 01:53:28 PM »
A year ago I was paying $2.90 for a gallon of gas = $6.00 a gallon gas...fact or just my opinion.  Numbers...just numbers.

Except gas now is about $4.00. Stop lying.

Also, what does that have to do with anything? A year ago, demand was less because fewer people were driving. I mean, seriously. Stop using misinformation.

See..your opinion is its only $4.00. I actually took that picture last week from my car.  My "opinion" or is it now a "fact" is that Gas is much higher...Realsville ;D ;D >:D

I can see now why no one takes you seriously.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2021, 01:59:31 PM »
I don't follow things just because the "experts" say so. It's like Stone Cold Steve Austin - "Because I said so." I ask questions and test before I put my trust in anything, not just on the vaccine.

Yes, Covid-19 killed many, but we're now having advanced technology and science to even make pills to cure covid. Why necessary to put it along the same category with things like hepatitis and potentially blocking many young students who might not prefer getting it? I mean, if covid was so severe on older people, they should have made it mandatory for older people. They left it open to choose for older folks while trying to mandate for kids as little as 5 now. It seems a bit strange to me. No, it's not a conspiracy theorist thinking. It's a logical thinking process for a human being. To me at least.

So basically, what you're saying is this: You don't follow things because the REAL experts say so, but you follow things when some random Youtuber or some random person on an internet forum says so. Gotcha. Seems like eyephone's assessment of you was correct.

 

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