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University of California research on myocarditis
« on: October 08, 2021, 09:26:28 PM »
Study Finds Teenage Boys Six Times More Likely to Suffer Heart Problems From Vaccine Than be Hospitalized by COVID.

"A team led by Dr Tracy Hoeg at the University of California investigated the rate of cardiac myocarditis – heart inflammation – and chest pain in children aged 12-17 following their second dose of the vaccine, ... " and found that "teenage boys are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems from the vaccine than be hospitalized from Covid-19..."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/09/teenage-boys-risk-vaccines-covid/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1631205198

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2021, 07:36:19 AM »
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On Sept. 8, a study was posted on a site where researchers share preliminary versions of scientific papers. It concluded that for boys ages 12-15, the risk of heart problems after a second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine is 3.7 to 6.1 higher than their risk of being hospitalized for COVID-19 as of Aug. 21.

Pediatric hospitalization rates have gone up since then, and the study’s lead author acknowledged the figure is lower now and no longer accurate.

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Meanwhile, public health officials have also said that COVID-19 infections alone commonly lead to instances of myocarditis and pericarditis and that, in those cases, damage to the heart is frequently severe.

The CDC study estimated that for every million second doses of vaccine administered to boys ages 12 to 17, vaccination would prevent, on average, 5,700 COVID-19 cases, 215 COVID-19 hospitalizations, 71 ICU admissions, and two deaths. By comparison, there would be an expected 56 to 69 cases of myocarditis. The risks were found to be significantly lower for girls.

"The CDC continues to recommend that children aged 12 years and older get vaccinated for COVID-19," CDC spokesperson Martha Sharan said. "The known risks of COVID-19 illness and its related, possibly severe complications, such as long-term health problems, hospitalization, and even death, far outweigh the potential risks of having a rare adverse reaction to vaccination, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis."

Basically an alarmist article distorting the impacts.  Most important info when you follow up with reputable sources shows that post vaccine myocarditis is typically mild and quickly resolves itself with short term (2 days) observation.

Pretty simple 71 go to the ICU without vaccine, 60ish, talk to their doctor and take an ibuprofen for a couple days.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/sep/20/doubts-raised-over-preprint-study-regarding-myocar/
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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2021, 09:04:35 AM »
For anti Vaxxers (or pro choice), what's the safest vaccine they need to take if their livelihood is on the line? Covaxin since it is developed traditionally but it is not yet approved in the US? If US does not approve Covaxin so people on the fence have less excuses, but want a vaccine mandate , what does that tell us about the vaccine mandate itself? That Pfizer has more lobbiest and congress members have quite bit of equity?

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2021, 09:43:56 PM »
What makes you think lobbying has any impact on FDA approval…

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/totals?id=D000000138
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/summary?id=D000000138
exactly.  big pharma companies like pfizer get FDA approved while scrappy start-ups like J&J are stuck with emergency use auth

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2021, 10:06:38 PM »
Another conspiracy or attempt to make fun of the vaccine. I love it!
Some of them believe that the vaccine is magnetic.



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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2021, 10:09:39 PM »
They cant stop talking against the vaccine. In the mean time, innocent people are dying because they believed their crap.


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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2021, 10:14:19 PM »
They are against this and against that. Next thing they will be against other vaccines and seat belts.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2021, 08:54:40 AM »
Newsoms 12 year daughter is not yet vaccinated.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2021, 10:55:29 AM »
Newsoms 12 year daughter is not yet vaccinated.

She’s been twelve for two weeks.

A really despicable  line of rationalizing, imho.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2021, 11:13:39 AM »
Newsoms 12 year daughter is not yet vaccinated.

She’s been twelve for two weeks.

A really despicable  line of rationalizing, imho.
truly shocking from username1488

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2021, 12:39:28 PM »
Newsoms 12 year daughter is not yet vaccinated.

She’s been twelve for two weeks.

A really despicable  line of rationalizing, imho.
truly shocking from username1488

This is how low they will go.



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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2021, 02:54:15 PM »
For anti Vaxxers (or pro choice), what's the safest vaccine they need to take if their livelihood is on the line? Covaxin since it is developed traditionally but it is not yet approved in the US? If US does not approve Covaxin so people on the fence have less excuses, but want a vaccine mandate , what does that tell us about the vaccine mandate itself? That Pfizer has more lobbiest and congress members have quite bit of equity?

Pfizer and Moderna had the highest efficacy rate against COVID-19 when they were approved for emergency use. It's only recently that Covaxin reached 77.8% efficacy rate against COVID-19 infections. Why would you want to use an inferior product. And outside of India, it's been approved for emergency use in 15 countries, most of which are third world country. Again, why would anyone in the US want to use an inferior product? There is NO excuse not to get vaccinated. The vaccinate mandate is 100% correct decision by the government. It's to save dumb people against their stupidity. And save others as well.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2021, 08:34:28 PM »
Her daughter is not even on regular vaccine schedule and she has other shots she needs to take before COVID vaccine. Let that sink in for a moment. Not saying vaccine is bad or not but if you want to push a mandate for 5 year and above to be vaccinated yet your own children are not, just bad look.

Newsoms 12 year daughter is not yet vaccinated.

She’s been twelve for two weeks.

A really despicable  line of rationalizing, imho.
truly shocking from username1488

This is how low they will go.

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Re: University of California research on myocarditis
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2021, 08:51:11 PM »
One of Newsom's kids lacks vaccine despite mandate, report says

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newsoms-kid-lacks-vaccine-despite-mandate

The article states that the daughter has an appointment soon.
I have a question for Fox News. Why do they have a vaccine/mask policy at their work place? But many of the hosts are against the vaccine. Kind of weird.

I have another question. Why does Governor Desantis from Florida have the covid vaccine. But his policies and statements contradict that. Sorry plebs as long as he is safe. It is okay.



Her daughter is not even on regular vaccine schedule and she has other shots she needs to take before COVID vaccine. Let that sink in for a moment. Not saying vaccine is bad or not but if you want to push a mandate for 5 year and above to be vaccinated yet your own children are not, just bad look.

Newsoms 12 year daughter is not yet vaccinated.

She’s been twelve for two weeks.

A really despicable  line of rationalizing, imho.
truly shocking from username1488

This is how low they will go.

 

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