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Re: CA SB9 - Effect in Irvine/OC?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2021, 03:27:40 PM »
Most of Irvine is very dense to begin with so I don’t know if it will impact Irvine as much.

Irvine needs to get denser in order to supply the ravenous demand for housing here. As an employer, I want to see dramatically more housing stock so that my entry-level team members can live. While $1m median house sales price might be good for me selfishly as a landowner, it's bad for business. We're not in the tech sector where everyone gets paid a near-six-figure salary, we're in a much lower margin healthcare-adjacent business.

I would love to see an area of Irvine designated as a dense, walkable neighborhood that is car-optional instead of car-dependent. Obviously it won't be anywhere an HOA exists, so it would have to be somewhere like IBC.

I don’t disagree with you that there is a  need for denser housing,  but to allow plopping down up to 4 units in the place of 1 unit, randomly, in single family home
neighborhoods the way SB9 allows it is bad planning and antithetical to the master planning principal Irvine is designed around. The denser housing would be better placed strategically around the retail centers, near transit hubs, near universities, etc, and to some extent that is already how Irvine is laid out, around UCI, and Jamboree business district.  We already have lots of apts, condos and townhouses here. Eventually, a detached true single family residence will become a luxury good.

Big picture its a win win for all parties.
- More housing
- Less red tape to build bigger house (maybe/probably idk)
- House value may increase or not due to bigger house

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Re: CA SB9 - Effect in Irvine/OC?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2021, 02:29:56 PM »
Most of Irvine is very dense to begin with so I don’t know if it will impact Irvine as much.

Irvine needs to get denser in order to supply the ravenous demand for housing here. As an employer, I want to see dramatically more housing stock so that my entry-level team members can live. While $1m median house sales price might be good for me selfishly as a landowner, it's bad for business. We're not in the tech sector where everyone gets paid a near-six-figure salary, we're in a much lower margin healthcare-adjacent business.

I would love to see an area of Irvine designated as a dense, walkable neighborhood that is car-optional instead of car-dependent. Obviously it won't be anywhere an HOA exists, so it would have to be somewhere like IBC.


This is why in the area of Jamboree and 405 continuing to erect massive apartment complexes. In the Pacific Sales appliances, home imporovement neighborhood, I was schocked how fast it grown and occupied.

Two bed, two bath apartment can goes for in the low 3K to mid 4K. These apartments are pretty well loaded. Gym, spa, dog park, meeting room. And it is near capacity.

Where are all these people come from? It is true we are not building enough.

Forget the affordability, just look for something.....it is going to be more expensive.

We need like 10x more of this for supply to be able to push prices down. We have team members who live in the Skyloft / Metropolis type housing product, but unless they are senior level, it's a tremendous cost burden eating up a third or more of their salary.

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Re: CA SB9 - Effect in Irvine/OC?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2021, 02:35:17 PM »
Most of Irvine is very dense to begin with so I don’t know if it will impact Irvine as much.

Irvine needs to get denser in order to supply the ravenous demand for housing here. As an employer, I want to see dramatically more housing stock so that my entry-level team members can live. While $1m median house sales price might be good for me selfishly as a landowner, it's bad for business. We're not in the tech sector where everyone gets paid a near-six-figure salary, we're in a much lower margin healthcare-adjacent business.

I would love to see an area of Irvine designated as a dense, walkable neighborhood that is car-optional instead of car-dependent. Obviously it won't be anywhere an HOA exists, so it would have to be somewhere like IBC.

I don’t disagree with you that there is a  need for denser housing,  but to allow plopping down up to 4 units in the place of 1 unit, randomly, in single family home
neighborhoods the way SB9 allows it is bad planning and antithetical to the master planning principal Irvine is designed around. The denser housing would be better placed strategically around the retail centers, near transit hubs, near universities, etc, and to some extent that is already how Irvine is laid out, around UCI, and Jamboree business district.  We already have lots of apts, condos and townhouses here. Eventually, a detached true single family residence will become a luxury good.

I agree with you that denser housing should be in areas already close to other uses such as retail, commercial, transportation, and colleges. I have a bias towards pro-business views politically, so I view the idea behind SB9 a sledgehammer towards restrictive zoning red tape. I am biased towards doing something to expand supply rather than waiting for the perfect opportunity.

 

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