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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #135 on: September 22, 2021, 11:54:37 AM »
anyone has the roughly lot size of the meadows? for example, everygreens parkland?
i couldnt find any info here on their website.

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #136 on: September 22, 2021, 12:35:29 PM »
On average the homes will have 3-5 foot setbacks to mimic Irvine as much as possible

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #137 on: September 22, 2021, 01:37:26 PM »
Quasi backyard. If you get anything more than 10 feet, it will deem as wasted space and wasted water for plants. No need for plants or trees in the backyard, just shut the shutters and you good. ha ha

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #138 on: September 22, 2021, 01:57:58 PM »
anyone has the roughly lot size of the meadows? for example, everygreens parkland?
i couldnt find any info here on their website.

Lot sizes for all homes can be found here - https://lakeforestca.gov/documentcenter/view/10941

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #139 on: September 23, 2021, 10:33:43 PM »
Well it's been forever since I logged into TI (looks like last post was 2018) but it's time again for another move due to life situation so here I am on another thread.

We previously lived in Pavilion Park and owned another property in Beacon, then we eventually moved over to Orchard Hill for a bigger home. Unfortunately we need a bit more space and decided to go private for the kiddos, so here we are again.

Wife and I declined a phase 1 lot in Meadows but we'll likely put down the $ for another lot soon in phase 2.

As others have said, the wait list is insane and TB has increased pricing as more upgrades are baked in (and I'm sure there are premiums due to demand and current pricing as well). They want to avoid investors flipping these homes with bare minimum - lacking built in fridge etc and looking very ghetto etc. (When you see these listings they stand out quite a bit).

I am personally not wild about the location of the neighborhood though it's convenient enough. It'll be a semi downgrade imo in terms of lot and spacing. We have one of the more premium lots in Orchard Hill - corner lot, in a cul de sac with only 8 homes so traffic is very light and there are nice views/wind given high elevation.

The Meadows will definitely be lower elevation vs BR etc and I do worry years down the line it'll be even hotter given geography and climate change. I'm not too wild about the Home Depot plaza nearby but at least it's convenient to all those shopping area in Foothill Ranch. You can basically walk to Target (though I'm not sure if you'll want to).

The community amenities seem nice enough and everything will be densely packed just like Irvine lol... It's interesting that TB mentions more than 500 homes on the website (plan seems to be 600 something) and I wouldn't be surprised if they just end up building more with the unused lot "assigned" to the mythical elementary school.

For Evergreen, the biggest lots are 7,800 SQ ft and there are only two of them. We're currently in a 5,300 SQ ft corner lot in Orchard Hills with basically only two neighbors "downgrading" to a smaller lot surrounded by more homes, but we're obviously getting more house SQ ft as well.

We're hoping built quality will be decent as some of the non-Baker Ranch TB development in Lake Forest seems pretty so-so vs TB in Irvine but maybe it's just because a lot of these buyers went cheap on the options and never bother to upgrade after taking delivery. (Parkside felt like this).

Attached is the lot size for Evergreen. From what I gleamed most of the corner lot will probably be plan 1 Beechwood - given how that particular floor plan (entrance at corner of home) and elevation work. But I wouldn't be surprised if they put some of the bigger floor plans in the bigger corner lots as well.

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #140 on: September 23, 2021, 11:32:40 PM »
Well it's been forever since I logged into TI (looks like last post was 2018) but it's time again for another move due to life situation so here I am on another thread.

We previously lived in Pavilion Park and owned another property in Beacon, then we eventually moved over to Orchard Hill for a bigger home. Unfortunately we need a bit more space and decided to go private for the kiddos, so here we are again.

Wife and I declined a phase 1 lot in Meadows but we'll likely put down the $ for another lot soon in phase 2.

As others have said, the wait list is insane and TB has increased pricing as more upgrades are baked in (and I'm sure there are premiums due to demand and current pricing as well). They want to avoid investors flipping these homes with bare minimum - lacking built in fridge etc and looking very ghetto etc. (When you see these listings they stand out quite a bit).

I am personally not wild about the location of the neighborhood though it's convenient enough. It'll be a semi downgrade imo in terms of lot and spacing. We have one of the more premium lots in Orchard Hill - corner lot, in a cul de sac with only 8 homes so traffic is very light and there are nice views/wind given high elevation.

The Meadows will definitely be lower elevation vs BR etc and I do worry years down the line it'll be even hotter given geography and climate change. I'm not too wild about the Home Depot plaza nearby but at least it's convenient to all those shopping area in Foothill Ranch. You can basically walk to Target (though I'm not sure if you'll want to).

The community amenities seem nice enough and everything will be densely packed just like Irvine lol... It's interesting that TB mentions more than 500 homes on the website (plan seems to be 600 something) and I wouldn't be surprised if they just end up building more with the unused lot "assigned" to the mythical elementary school.

For Evergreen, the biggest lots are 7,800 SQ ft and there are only two of them. We're currently in a 5,300 SQ ft corner lot in Orchard Hills with basically only two neighbors "downgrading" to a smaller lot surrounded by more homes, but we're obviously getting more house SQ ft as well.

We're hoping built quality will be decent as some of the non-Baker Ranch TB development in Lake Forest seems pretty so-so vs TB in Irvine but maybe it's just because a lot of these buyers went cheap on the options and never bother to upgrade after taking delivery. (Parkside felt like this).

Attached is the lot size for Evergreen. From what I gleamed most of the corner lot will probably be plan 1 Beechwood - given how that particular floor plan (entrance at corner of home) and elevation work. But I wouldn't be surprised if they put some of the bigger floor plans in the bigger corner lots as well.

How much house SQ footage are you gaining to be willing to "downgrade" from Orchard Hills to The Meadows like this?

It sounds like your Orchard Hills house is pretty great.

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #141 on: September 24, 2021, 01:18:54 AM »
How much house SQ footage are you gaining to be willing to "downgrade" from Orchard Hills to The Meadows like this?

It sounds like your Orchard Hills house is pretty great.

I guess about +600 square feet (just shy of 3k vs 3.5k sq ft). We're basically getting an in-law suite and an extra bedroom out of it. Plus I guess a nicer two-story foyer entrance. That is if we're able to get the lot we want anyways.

The primary reason is because we're switching school and need a home with an in-law suite (or at least enough space for the in-laws when they visit/stay with us). I've always mulled the private vs public school debate for awhile, but I suppose covid's impact on our kids development help accelerated that decision.

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #142 on: September 24, 2021, 11:43:30 AM »
How much house SQ footage are you gaining to be willing to "downgrade" from Orchard Hills to The Meadows like this?

It sounds like your Orchard Hills house is pretty great.

I guess about +600 square feet (just shy of 3k vs 3.5k sq ft). We're basically getting an in-law suite and an extra bedroom out of it. Plus I guess a nicer two-story foyer entrance. That is if we're able to get the lot we want anyways.

The primary reason is because we're switching school and need a home with an in-law suite (or at least enough space for the in-laws when they visit/stay with us). I've always mulled the private vs public school debate for awhile, but I suppose covid's impact on our kids development help accelerated that decision.

Mind sharing what age, school and cost?  I'm in BR and have to figure that out once my kid gets old enough (he has a nanny now).

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #143 on: September 28, 2021, 02:57:53 PM »

Mind sharing what age, school and cost?  I'm in BR and have to figure that out once my kid gets old enough (he has a nanny now).

we are looking at a few, Fairmont, St. Mary, etc. most are in the 20-25k range for annual tuition, then you add in misc stuff in 2-3k a year. our oldest is 9. ideally we find one that has space for the youngest which is about 4 in a pre-K situation too.

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #144 on: September 28, 2021, 03:04:35 PM »
I've always mulled the private vs public school debate for awhile, but I suppose covid's impact on our kids development help accelerated that decision.

Curious - what makes a Lake Forest private school better than the good public schools that OH has in a Covid world?

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #145 on: September 28, 2021, 08:51:29 PM »
Has anybody been able to get an appointment at the sales office?

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #146 on: September 28, 2021, 08:59:13 PM »
Has anybody been able to get an appointment at the sales office?

Yes, my father and I had a call with one of the sales people on Sunday afternoon.
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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #147 on: September 28, 2021, 09:33:32 PM »
Has anybody been able to get an appointment at the sales office?

Yes, my father and I had a call with one of the sales people on Sunday afternoon.
Just curious, was your father able to get a call with the sales people because he's a cash buyer?  I've had email exchanges with Redwoods sale rep. and she said cash buyers get priority for early releases.  And did you get an appointment to be shown something?

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #148 on: September 28, 2021, 09:45:43 PM »
I do feel like there is a LOT of truth to that statement, it seems like Toll Brothers really wants to make the first phases as streamlined and easy as possible, so all cash offers are prioritized.  One downside with an early phase however is that they are not allowing any modifications to the structure of each home in the early phases (no conservatories, decks or retreats) as they want to have the construction go as smoothly as possible without any setbacks.

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Re: The Meadows, Lake Forest by Toll Brothers
« Reply #149 on: September 28, 2021, 10:04:01 PM »
Has anybody been able to get an appointment at the sales office?

Yes, my father and I had a call with one of the sales people on Sunday afternoon.
Just curious, was your father able to get a call with the sales people because he's a cash buyer?  I've had email exchanges with Redwoods sale rep. and she said cash buyers get priority for early releases.  And did you get an appointment to be shown something?

Yes, my father is a cash buyer.  I was on the call with him talking to the sales rep that handles the Evergreens (we had the option to come to the sales office or do a call and since my father lives in Las Vegas and we got the email with the option on Saturday he selected the phone call).  She went over how they sold Phase 1 and asked to range the preference for lot/floor plan selection for Phase 2 and Phase 3 plus mentioned the pre-selected upgrades that would be included for Phase 2.  Phase 2 lots will be sold in mid-October and the homes won't be ready for around 1 year.
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