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COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:32:30 PM »
Saw this in the OC Register and thought I'd share.

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Why can't I get an appointment in OC? And more questions about COVID-19 vaccinations
January 15, 2021
Alicia Robinson
The news this week that the COVID-19 vaccine can now be given to anyone 65 and older in Orange County was met with a mad rush of people hoping to get their shot, but for many of them, it was a struggle to get an appointment or even get the designated app and website to work.

So what is in the works to address the situation, and what should people know if they're eligible for the vaccine but haven't gotten it yet?

Here are some of the questions and concerns Orange County Register readers have, and the most up-to-date answers we could get. (In some cases, plans are still fluid or information was unavailable.)

Q: The OC Health Care Agency said to use the Othena website or mobile app to register and make an appointment to get vaccinated. Why didn't it work for me?

A: A big issue is a limited number of appointments and very high demand, with some readers reporting the Othena website was down when they tried it and others saying there were no appointment slots open. County officials have said they're working on some technical issues with the site.

So far only one large-scale public vaccination site has launched – Disneyland, which opened Wednesday – that can currently handle about 3,000 to 3,200 people per day. Appointments are being scheduled for no more than three days out because the county depends on the state for its supply of vaccine doses, and officials don't want to have to cancel anyone's appointment because shots weren't available, county CEO Frank Kim said.

It's a frustrating math problem. County health officials said Wednesday they had about 42,000 doses already on hand, with a shipment of 35,000 more expected next week. That's 77,000 inoculations – and there are roughly 800,000 people now deemed eligible to get the vaccine in OC, including about 200,000 health care workers and other top-priority public servants, plus about 600,000 people in the 65-and-older group, county spokeswoman Molly Nichelson said.

While more doses (about 170,000 in all) have been sent to Orange County, Kim said a majority of the vaccine went to hospitals and large health networks, which have been vaccinating their workers and have discretion in how they distribute the shots.

"The challenge is that currently the demand is outstripping the capacity, and that'll get better," Kim said. "The difficulty is we're looking for predictability (in vaccine supply) so we can design a longer-term appointment slot."

Q: How do I know if I'm eligible to get the vaccine? Can I just show up at the Disneyland site?

A: County Health Officer Dr. Clayton Chau, after consulting with Orange County's vaccine task force, recently decided to open up inoculations to anyone 65 and older, whether or not they have other health conditions, because that age group currently makes up the majority of OC residents in hospitals with COVID-19, as well as most of the people receiving intensive care and requiring ventilators.

Most health care workers – including paramedics, home health aides and urgent care and dental clinic staff – and some law enforcement employees working in higher-risk settings also can now be vaccinated.

But please, county officials say, don't come without an appointment. They won't be able to accommodate walk-ins and it will slow down the process for everyone.

Q. So what should I do if I still need to make an appointment?

A: It may take some persistence. County health officials are advising people to call their doctor or health provider first, although a number of readers said they did and were told that the provider could not currently vaccinate them or had no information.

As to Othena (www.othena.com), Kim said the site is being updated and any bugs fixed regularly, so that may be why some people can't get it to work. "We're advising people to check throughout the day – there is not a specific time" that batches of appointments open up, he said.

The county is also working on adding a confirmation feature so users know they've successfully registered and, if they're in a category that's not yet eligible for inoculations, they'll be notified when it's their group's turn.

As of Thursday afternooon, Kim said all available appointments were full, but county officials are working to add capacity and expect to open more large-capacity sites like the one at Disneyland in the next few weeks.

"We don't have enough vaccine for everyone that wants it today, but vaccine availability is growing week to week as is our capacity, so we ask for their patience," he said.

The county has not indicated how people who don't have or can't use a computer or smart phone can make an appointment, but health agency officials promised more information on that "within the next few days."

Q: What should I expect when I get an appointment, and how long will it take?

A: First, bring an ID such as a driver's license to verify your age. Health care workers need an employee badge, letter from their employer or something else that proves their occupation.

Plan on at least a short wait. You'll have to check in and be screened before you get your shot. On the first day at the Disneyland site, it took some people an hour and a half to get through the process, but Kim said the process had already sped up a bit by Day 2. If the forecast is for hot weather, officials suggest waiting in the car until close to your appointment time.

After getting the vaccination, everyone is asked to wait about 15 minutes so site staff can make sure there are no adverse reactions to the shot. It's expected to take 30 to 40 minutes from start to finish when everything's running smoothly.

County officials have said Othena is also designed to remind users who have received their first shot when it's time for the second (both vaccines authorized for use in the U.S. are two doses) – it should be about three weeks later.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2021, 10:08:25 AM »
I just got my parents vaccine appointment at Disneyland last night.
Othena.com opens their registration at 8PM every night and it is filled by 8:08....so you only have a few minutes right at 8pm to sign in and pick a time.
They close the registration around 8:30pm.  I have experienced trying to get an appoinment for 2 nights in a row now.


I hear it's 3,000 people every time they open up the registration.  So in 8 minutes 3,000 people fill those spots. 

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2021, 09:01:51 PM »
I just got my parents vaccine appointment at Disneyland last night.
Othena.com opens their registration at 8PM every night and it is filled by 8:08....so you only have a few minutes right at 8pm to sign in and pick a time.
They close the registration around 8:30pm.  I have experienced trying to get an appoinment for 2 nights in a row now.


I hear it's 3,000 people every time they open up the registration.  So in 8 minutes 3,000 people fill those spots.
Didn't work for me.  Like the app review says, maybe only iphone works.  Tried with my mom's galaxy phone, none available at any date.  Tried again with my laptop and I can't even get to the date selection page.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2021, 09:18:02 AM »
I used a desktop to register and to click on appointments.
On reddit, they said desktops have an easier time than smart phones.

There are 3 drop down menus. 
1. Date of appointment.
2. Site
3. Time

Normally you can pick date and site, but when it comes to time, all of them are gone.
I just smashed through ASAP @ 8pm, and didn't really care what time I got.


I hear picking an earlier times is better than a later time because the line is smaller in the mornings. 


You can go to the orangecounty reddit and read about it.
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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2021, 09:33:20 AM »
We did this. Just have to be quick with the app.  Went the first week (day 2 I think) and they were running about an hour behind for a mid day appointment. No point in getting there super early as they line you up by appointment time. I suggest 15 mins prior to park and get your bearings.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2021, 03:08:43 PM »
We did this. Just have to be quick with the app.  Went the first week (day 2 I think) and they were running about an hour behind for a mid day appointment. No point in getting there super early as they line you up by appointment time. I suggest 15 mins prior to park and get your bearings.

You got vaccinated yourself? Are you under 65? How do I get it being under 65?

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2021, 03:15:58 PM »
No for 65+ family members at DLand. The only way to get vaccinated right now if you are under 65 and not in the covered essential categories is to either volunteer or be on a standby list.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2021, 09:20:38 AM »
So my parents got the vaccine yesterday.
Appointment was for 3:45pm
Arrived at Disney superpod @ 3:20pm
Left Disney superpod @ 4:45pm


The entire thing is a loop, so you can park anywhere, and it'll be the same walk once you complete the circle.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2021, 11:07:17 AM »
So my parents got the vaccine yesterday.
Appointment was for 3:45pm
Arrived at Disney superpod @ 3:20pm
Left Disney superpod @ 4:45pm


The entire thing is a loop, so you can park anywhere, and it'll be the same walk once you complete the circle.

I thought it would be like the picture at dodgers stadium for the testing.
(Drive to the person)

Me personally I would not go there. Way to many people.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2021, 12:24:17 PM »

I thought it would be like the picture at dodgers stadium for the testing.
(Drive to the person)

Me personally I would not go there. Way to many people.

Getting vaccine shot plus 15 min wait time afterward will not work with drive through style like testing does.   

Most of the mass vaccine shot site they are rolling out now will have a lot of people and they are the one with most open slots.  So unless you want to wait for the smaller clinic like Vons or Sav-On, it's hard to avoid crowd if you want to get it asap.

I got my vaccine shot early last week through LA County. Lots of people, long line but it's outdoors, line move quickly, everyone masked and keep distance.  So I don't think too many people will be an issue. 

When it's your time to get the vaccine, just sign up asap at whatever location that's available. 

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2021, 12:47:27 PM »
Yeah, it’s not my time.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2021, 08:42:44 PM »
I used a desktop to register and to click on appointments.
On reddit, they said desktops have an easier time than smart phones.

There are 3 drop down menus. 
1. Date of appointment.
2. Site
3. Time

Normally you can pick date and site, but when it comes to time, all of them are gone.
I just smashed through ASAP @ 8pm, and didn't really care what time I got.


I hear picking an earlier times is better than a later time because the line is smaller in the mornings. 


You can go to the orangecounty reddit and read about it.
Totally frustrating >:(
It never works on android phone and with the latest update, now I can't even select the date.  Their android app is a pos.
When I try it on my laptop, I just get a stupid message and it won't let me get to the appointment page.  My parents are over 65 and tier 1B.  I tried both Chrome and Edge.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2021, 09:51:47 AM »
as word spreads that othena opens at 8pm for registration, i suspect getting an appointment is getting harder and harder.  Plus they cancelled yesterdays (JAN 19) vaccination appointments due to high winds.  They may have moved those people to another date and just didn't open registration up last night.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2021, 10:22:27 AM »
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It's a frustrating math problem. County health officials said Wednesday they had about 42,000 doses already on hand, with a shipment of 35,000 more expected next week. That's 77,000 inoculations – and there are roughly 800,000 people now deemed eligible to get the vaccine in OC, including about 200,000 health care workers and other top-priority public servants, plus about 600,000 people in the 65-and-older group, county spokeswoman Molly Nichelson said.

JIMHO, no it's not a frustrating math problem, it's a pretty rudimentary service queuing problem covered in any basic business program.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Questions
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2021, 10:23:57 AM »
Operations queueing problems, one of my favorite things to learn and simulate in B-school.

 

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