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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2021, 11:42:41 AM »
like this economy stuff even matters

repubs are all voting on CRT and vaccine mandates

good strategy too

Not true. In the end it will always come down to the pocketbook.  People are naturally selfish (though no one wants to admit it) and it is the things that affect them personally and today that they really focus on. Most of what the Democrats are selling are aspirational and way down the road.
top 2 most important issues for VA republicans: CRT and vaccine mandates

"Dems are spending money!! Omg!!" doesn't drive turnout. Hasn't since before Newt. Trump blew up the deficit more than any Dems. It's all culture war all the time now. Foolproof strategy when a Dem is in office.

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« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2021, 02:27:02 PM »
Those are cover songs...it's always "the economy, stupid!"

Democrats need a reckoning after misjudging the nation's mood

(CNN)Demoralized Democrats need a reckoning after a rough election night that sent serious warning signs that they have misjudged the nation's mood as their window closes before next year's midterms.

While the party feuds over its vast social spending agenda, Republicans are highlighting issues that preoccupy voters more immediately, like a sluggish economy, high gas prices, expensive groceries, crime rates and concerns about the rights of parents to influence what is taught in schools. Those concerns in many cases have been exacerbated by a prolonged pandemic, which President Joe Biden declared all but over in July but that spiked over the summer in a new blow to an exhausted nation's morale.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/03/politics/us-election-day-analysis-virginia-new-jersey-democrats-reckoning/index.html

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #152 on: November 04, 2021, 09:50:15 AM »
like this economy stuff even matters

repubs are all voting on CRT and vaccine mandates

good strategy too

Not true. In the end it will always come down to the pocketbook.  People are naturally selfish (though no one wants to admit it) and it is the things that affect them personally and today that they really focus on. Most of what the Democrats are selling are aspirational and way down the road.
top 2 most important issues for VA republicans: CRT and vaccine mandates

"Dems are spending money!! Omg!!" doesn't drive turnout. Hasn't since before Newt. Trump blew up the deficit more than any Dems. It's all culture war all the time now. Foolproof strategy when a Dem is in office.

Culture war issues of the past had to do mostly with legislating Christian morals:  gay marriage, abortion, transexuals in bathrooms, etc.

Now Dems are framing issues like public education and healthcare as "culture wars", but really these are fundamental issues for most people.  We expect the government to educate children in a non-biased, non-ideological way, just as we expect to have personal control over our own healthcare decisions.

In other words, the culture issues of the past were about Christian conservatives trying to prevent certain types of rights and freedom for others.  The new culture wars are about liberals, progressives, socialists attempting to deny freedom in education and healthcare to others.

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #153 on: November 04, 2021, 09:54:26 AM »
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We expect the government to educate children in a non-biased, non-ideological way

hahahahahahahahaha

oh boy

that

wow

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #154 on: November 04, 2021, 11:29:49 AM »
I love Smith...they will all drown in a red rogue wave that they still cannot see coming...

AOC says Dem Election Day losses result of running 'fully 100% super moderated campaign'

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Republican Glenn Youngkin won the Virginia gubernatorial election because Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe ran a "100% super moderated campaign" that didn't "energize a progressive base."

"Plus, on the election front. I actually think we have good news as well. I know that Virginia was a huge bummer. And honestly, if anything, I think that the results show the limits of trying to run a fully 100% super moderated campaign that does not excite speak to or energize a progressive base. And frankly, we weren't even really invited to contribute on that race," Ocasio-Cortez said in an Instagram story Wednesday evening, which has since been shared on other social media platforms.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-terry-mcauliffe-loss-fully-moderated-campaign


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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #155 on: November 04, 2021, 01:37:28 PM »
"red rogue wave that they still cannot see coming" lol what?

trump 2016 was an underdog win no doubt.  credit to trump there.

trump 2020 was an unmitigated disaster for team red.  i don't know how you can say differently with a straight face.  incumbent prez gets wiped out, dems win two special elections in georgia to get 50 senate seats?  dems should have never won a senate majority in 2020.  complete own goal by republicans.

midterms are going to be bad for dems.  no one who knows anything about elections finds this surprising.  they will almost certainly lose house and probably senate too.  that's just the way the cookie crumbles.  they should never have had the senate majority in the first place, and the house majority is too slim to survive the normal midterm losses that the incumbent party takes. 

getting amped up about this and calling it a "red rogue wave" is hilarious though.  i thought your side was against participation trophies.

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #156 on: November 04, 2021, 02:04:24 PM »
Well, Dems don't actually have Senate majority. Manchin really is a Republican, and Sinema is a fucking troll.

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #157 on: November 04, 2021, 02:11:19 PM »
Well, more to the point. Anyone expecting some big unified new game changing legislation with a barely held together 50 seats and a narrow house majority is delusional. Biden's term is purely defensive. And only possible because Republicans blew it so hard in 2020.

But yeah yeah Dems in disarray etc

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #158 on: November 04, 2021, 03:59:09 PM »
Your boys are going down Danny..I can’t stop it anymore…1994 style slaughter is coming. ;D ;D >:D


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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #159 on: November 04, 2021, 05:35:10 PM »
this is just sad honestly

do you celebrate when the harlem globetrotters beat the washington generals

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #160 on: November 04, 2021, 05:47:49 PM »
this is just sad honestly

do you celebrate when the harlem globetrotters beat the washington generals

Every time I see em!!  #Winning ;D ;D >:D

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #161 on: November 04, 2021, 08:19:53 PM »
"red rogue wave that they still cannot see coming" lol what?

trump 2016 was an underdog win no doubt.  credit to trump there.

trump 2020 was an unmitigated disaster for team red.  i don't know how you can say differently with a straight face.  incumbent prez gets wiped out, dems win two special elections in georgia to get 50 senate seats?  dems should have never won a senate majority in 2020.  complete own goal by republicans.

midterms are going to be bad for dems.  no one who knows anything about elections finds this surprising.  they will almost certainly lose house and probably senate too.  that's just the way the cookie crumbles.  they should never have had the senate majority in the first place, and the house majority is too slim to survive the normal midterm losses that the incumbent party takes. 

getting amped up about this and calling it a "red rogue wave" is hilarious though.  i thought your side was against participation trophies.

Look, i agree on some of those points. I said that same thing 11 months ago.  I could have cared less about the so called “majority”. Told everyone it would mean nothing…I just like to rub in stuff, my guilty pleasure…

Doesn't matter, a five vote majority in the house coupled with a 50/50 split in the senate will lead to little legislation.  Dems thwarted Trump with less and the Repubs blocked Obama easily.  No major tax hikes, no major re regulation, no major treaties and no Green New Deal...the game goes on.  ;D >:D

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #162 on: November 08, 2021, 03:32:05 PM »
Smith tries to absorb anyone who is left…

AOC insists the Democrats' 'woke problem' is made up by Republicans and critics wanting party to run away from racial justice and voting rights

AOC hit back at Carville's comments after the Democrats' disastrous results
'Wokeness' is a 'term almost exclusively used by older people these days' she wrote on Twitter
'The average audience for people seriously using the word 'woke' in a 2021 political discussion are James Carville and Fox News pundits, she added
Veteran Democrat Carville blamed 'stupid wokeness' for election defeats across the country on Tuesday night
'I mean, this 'defund the police' lunacy, this take Abraham Lincoln's name off of schools. I mean that — people see that,' he said

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10179221/AOC-insists-Democrats-woke-problem-Republicans-critics.html

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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #163 on: November 16, 2021, 01:14:09 PM »
Smith has taken over the Matrix...

Democrats are Trapped by the Extremism of Their Own Base on Cultural Issues

In the aftermath of their defeat in Virginia, a few, mostly older liberal commentators have begun warning about the Democratic Party’s leftward drift on cultural issues. Some have criticized Democrat candidate Terry McAuliffe for his failure to distance himself from the far left on CRT or the transgender bathroom and sports issues that had inflamed parents in Virginia schools.

It is easy to condemn McAuliffe for this choice, but the way he chose to navigate the race highlights a much larger problem for the party than many have understood. The challenge is that given the dynamics he faced within the Democratic electorate, it is unclear what other choice McAuliffe had. In all likelihood, McAuliffe did not decide to adopt his losing strategy thinking it was good. He probably deduced, correctly, that was simply the least bad option. And the alarming fact for Democrats nationwide is that if their least bad option was not good enough to win in a Biden+10 state earlier this month, there are a lot of other places it will not be good enough either.

The more rational members of the party know they need to pivot, they know how to do it, but they nonetheless cannot do so because of the rigid ideological orthodoxy demanded by their base, an extremism that in many cases they themselves have sown. And that is why so many Democratic incumbents are headed for the exits rather than running for reelection. It is not that the situation is bad now and they don’t know how to fix it. It is that it is bad and they know they cannot do the things needed to fix it.

https://amac.us/democrats-are-trapped-by-the-extremism-of-their-own-base-on-cultural-issues/


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Re: Congress Elections
« Reply #164 on: November 18, 2021, 09:45:39 PM »
Now this would be funny!!….

No, Donald Trump Does NOT have to Run for Congress to Become Speaker of the House
There are a lot of scenarios being discussed about Donald Trump's 2022 plans. The best one is not being discussed by many. It should be.

With a Republican majority in the House, they can vote to make United States private citizen Donald J. Trump the Speaker of the House. Few people seem to know this since the Speaker of the House has always been a member of the House of Representatives, but there’s no Constitutional requirement for him to be an active elected official. He simply needs to be elected by a majority of current members of the House of Representatives in order to become second in the line of succession to the presidency.

https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/06/07/no-donald-trump-does-not-have-to-run-for-congress-to-become-speaker-of-the-house/

 

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