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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5595 on: January 18, 2022, 08:24:48 AM »
From your link.
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The vaccines led to a increase in the number of antibodies "even a little bit higher than what we had after the third dose", said Regev-Yochay.

"Yet, this is probably not enough for the Omicron," she told reporters. "We know by now that the level of antibodies needed to protect and not to got infected from Omicron is probably too high for the vaccine, even if it's a good vaccine."


Overstated clickbait headline.


Right it is all unvaccinatedss fault. Keep jabbing and jabbing. Be prepared for 5th shot and more.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-study-shows-4th-shot-covid-19-vaccine-not-able-block-omicron-2022-01-17/

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« Reply #5596 on: January 18, 2022, 12:02:05 PM »
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Scotland: weird data that unvaccinated has lower hospitalization rate
« Reply #5597 on: January 18, 2022, 10:01:21 PM »
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It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.

Trump and Republicans must be globally popular. Now Scotland.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19843315.covid-scotland-case-rates-lowest-unvaccinated-double-jabbed-elderly-drive-rise-hospital-admissions/

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5598 on: January 19, 2022, 12:07:21 PM »
buh-bye!...

Starbucks drops worker vaccine or test requirement after SCOTUS ruling

Starbucks has dropped plans to require that U.S. workers get the COVID vaccine or submit to weekly testing, the company announced Tuesday in a memo to employees.

https://www.axios.com/starbucks-drops-covid-vaccine-mandate-7747b919-2011-499f-8a9d-e1e2bc6693bb.html



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Re: Scotland: weird data that unvaccinated has lower hospitalization rate
« Reply #5599 on: January 19, 2022, 01:08:11 PM »
Click bait headline again:
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It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.

Trump and Republicans must be globally popular. Now Scotland.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19843315.covid-scotland-case-rates-lowest-unvaccinated-double-jabbed-elderly-drive-rise-hospital-admissions/

If only science worked as simply and was as neatly packaged as you present.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5600 on: January 19, 2022, 01:21:40 PM »
Buh-Bye!...

Covid: Face mask rules and Covid passes to end in England

England's Plan B measures are to end from next Thursday, with mandatory face coverings in public places and Covid passports both dropped, Boris Johnson has announced.

The prime minister also said the government would immediately drop its advice for people to work from home.

The PM said England was reverting to "Plan A" due to boosters and how people had followed Plan B measures.

He told MPs scientists believed the Omicron wave had peaked nationally.

At a Downing Street press conference, Health Secretary Sajid Javid said: "This is a moment we can all be proud of.

"It's a reminder of what this country can accomplish when we all work together."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60047438

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5601 on: January 19, 2022, 04:34:02 PM »
Golly, people follow the mandates and get vaccinated and boosted and it's under control in 30 days and things go back to normal...  Imagine that.  Shocking I tell you, shocking.

Buh-Bye!...

Covid: Face mask rules and Covid passes to end in England

England's Plan B measures are to end from next Thursday, with mandatory face coverings in public places and Covid passports both dropped, Boris Johnson has announced.

The prime minister also said the government would immediately drop its advice for people to work from home.

The PM said England was reverting to "Plan A" due to boosters and how people had followed Plan B measures.

He told MPs scientists believed the Omicron wave had peaked nationally.

At a Downing Street press conference, Health Secretary Sajid Javid said: "This is a moment we can all be proud of.

"It's a reminder of what this country can accomplish when we all work together."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60047438

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5602 on: January 19, 2022, 07:11:38 PM »
Click bait headline again:
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It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.
Trump and Republicans must be globally popular. Now Scotland.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19843315.covid-scotland-case-rates-lowest-unvaccinated-double-jabbed-elderly-drive-rise-hospital-admissions/

If you look at the actual report, they explain the numbers and issues with case rates.

More importantly, if you look at hospitalizations and deaths, boostered is lower by a lot than the others.  In the current report, this trend continues.  But hey what’s 16.1 to 25.9 times lower death anyway.

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11089/22-01-12-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf#page44

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11223/22-01-19-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf#page50

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In the last week from 08 January to 14 January 2022, in an age-standardised population, the rate of acute COVID-19 related hospital admissions in individuals that received a booster or third dose of a COVID-19 vaccine was between 2.3 to 3.9 times lower than in individuals who are unvaccinated or have only received one or two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine
• In the last week from 01 January 2022 to 07 January 2022, in an age-standardised population, the death rate in individuals that received a booster or third dose of a COVID-19 vaccine was between 16.1 to 25.9 times lower than individuals who are unvaccinated or have only received one or two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5603 on: January 19, 2022, 09:07:04 PM »
Golly, people follow the mandates and get vaccinated and boosted and it's under control in 30 days and things go back to normal...  Imagine that.  Shocking I tell you, shocking.

Buh-Bye!...

Covid: Face mask rules and Covid passes to end in England

England's Plan B measures are to end from next Thursday, with mandatory face coverings in public places and Covid passports both dropped, Boris Johnson has announced.

The prime minister also said the government would immediately drop its advice for people to work from home.

The PM said England was reverting to "Plan A" due to boosters and how people had followed Plan B measures.

He told MPs scientists believed the Omicron wave had peaked nationally.

At a Downing Street press conference, Health Secretary Sajid Javid said: "This is a moment we can all be proud of.

"It's a reminder of what this country can accomplish when we all work together."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60047438

Or they’re just sick of it and declaring it over…more likely.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5604 on: January 19, 2022, 09:10:11 PM »
A conservative politician making expedient political decisions because he’s trying to save his position?  Say it isn’t so.


Golly, people follow the mandates and get vaccinated and boosted and it's under control in 30 days and things go back to normal...  Imagine that.  Shocking I tell you, shocking.

Buh-Bye!...

Covid: Face mask rules and Covid passes to end in England

England's Plan B measures are to end from next Thursday, with mandatory face coverings in public places and Covid passports both dropped, Boris Johnson has announced.

The prime minister also said the government would immediately drop its advice for people to work from home.

The PM said England was reverting to "Plan A" due to boosters and how people had followed Plan B measures.

He told MPs scientists believed the Omicron wave had peaked nationally.

At a Downing Street press conference, Health Secretary Sajid Javid said: "This is a moment we can all be proud of.

"It's a reminder of what this country can accomplish when we all work together."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60047438

Or they’re just sick of it and declaring it over…more likely.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5606 on: January 19, 2022, 09:21:40 PM »
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Prior COVID infection more protective than vaccination during Delta surge -U.S. study

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/

Oops indeed:

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Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found.

Nevertheless, vaccination remains the safest strategy against COVID-19, according to the report published in U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.


The results do not apply to the Omicron variant of the virus, which now accounts for 99.5% of COVID-19 cases in the United States.


"The evidence in this report does not change our vaccination recommendations," Dr. Ben Silk of the CDC and one of the study's authors told a media briefing.

"We know that vaccination is still the safest way to protect yourself against COVID-19," he said.


So yeah... same exact thing I've been saying... thanks akula.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5607 on: January 19, 2022, 09:23:59 PM »
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Prior COVID infection more protective than vaccination during Delta surge -U.S. study

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/

Oops indeed:

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Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found.

Nevertheless, vaccination remains the safest strategy against COVID-19, according to the report published in U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.


The results do not apply to the Omicron variant of the virus, which now accounts for 99.5% of COVID-19 cases in the United States.


"The evidence in this report does not change our vaccination recommendations," Dr. Ben Silk of the CDC and one of the study's authors told a media briefing.

"We know that vaccination is still the safest way to protect yourself against COVID-19," he said.


So yeah... same exact thing I've been saying... thanks akula.

Is that the natural immunity immunization with the 850,000 fatal adverse events?

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5608 on: January 19, 2022, 10:10:49 PM »
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5609 on: January 19, 2022, 10:30:17 PM »
Mine works! >:D ;D ;D

We'll need to ask your ex-wife.

 

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