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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5160 on: December 07, 2021, 09:04:18 AM »
The industry creates VAERS..
It is voluntary so a ton of effects are never reported.. Most people don't even know this exists or that they should report anything (I certainly did not when our kids were being immunized for all the typical childhood vaccinations).
And now, I hear people saying that even if there are adverse effects reported in VAERS for Covid vaccines, it is probably fake because anyone can report anything..

So basically, don't worry.. we have a system.. no one uses it.. oh, but if someone uses it, they are lying because they want to make it seem like the vaccines are causing injury..  ::)

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« Reply #5161 on: December 07, 2021, 09:22:43 AM »
I got two pfizer vaccines. I'm positive the thrombophlebitis I developed after the second was related to the vax. Came and went within days and never had it before or after. Also had some eye issues which are an autoimmune problem which I have had under control for many years. First shot I didn't relate to the eye issue but thought it was really strange because humidity was 65% so there was no reason my eyes should have these problems. Second shot happened again and thinking back to the time frame of the first occurrence I knew it must have been related to the vax. These were never reported to VAERS but they are known issues written up in medical journals.

My daughter had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. Was that related to the vax? Maybe, maybe not. The rate of miscarriage quoted in a previous post here on TI is not anything more than "normal". Most miscarriages are due to a genetic issue which was absolutely not the case. She had an IVF embryo, and it was screened for genetic problems before they implanted it. Had an ultrasound which showed the baby moving and heartbeat with no abnormalities. A week later it was dead. They sent the embryo in for testing and didn't find a thing wrong.

No one knows what the real long term effects are for the vaccines, not even the manufacturers and that is a fact. Long term has not happened yet.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5162 on: December 07, 2021, 09:26:29 AM »
That's what I mean when everybody uses VAERS numbers to say "there are little negative reactions to the Jabs" because it does not show in VAERS.  VAERS numbers will never report the overall negatives but its information is always quoted even though it really is not an accurate reflection of what is going on out there.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5163 on: December 07, 2021, 09:29:53 AM »
Didnt you get the vaccine?


The industry creates VAERS..
It is voluntary so a ton of effects are never reported.. Most people don't even know this exists or that they should report anything (I certainly did not when our kids were being immunized for all the typical childhood vaccinations).
And now, I hear people saying that even if there are adverse effects reported in VAERS for Covid vaccines, it is probably fake because anyone can report anything..

So basically, don't worry.. we have a system.. no one uses it.. oh, but if someone uses it, they are lying because they want to make it seem like the vaccines are causing injury..  ::)

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« Reply #5164 on: December 07, 2021, 09:33:17 AM »
I got two pfizer vaccines. I'm positive the thrombophlebitis I developed after the second was related to the vax. Came and went within days and never had it before or after. Also had some eye issues which are an autoimmune problem which I have had under control for many years. First shot I didn't relate to the eye issue but thought it was really strange because humidity was 65% so there was no reason my eyes should have these problems. Second shot happened again and thinking back to the time frame of the first occurrence I knew it must have been related to the vax. These were never reported to VAERS but they are known issues written up in medical journals.

My daughter had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. Was that related to the vax? Maybe, maybe not. The rate of miscarriage quoted in a previous post here on TI is not anything more than "normal". Most miscarriages are due to a genetic issue which was absolutely not the case. She had an IVF embryo, and it was screened for genetic problems before they implanted it. Had an ultrasound which showed the baby moving and heartbeat with no abnormalities. A week later it was dead. They sent the embryo in for testing and didn't find a thing wrong.

No one knows what the real long term effects are for the vaccines, not even the manufacturers and that is a fact. Long term has not happened yet.


COVID-19 Vaccine Doesn’t Cause Miscarriage, Infertility

https://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/mas/news/covid-19-vaccine-doesn-t-cause-miscarriage-infertility-1814936

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« Reply #5165 on: December 07, 2021, 09:41:15 AM »
Moderna has been the top performing S&P 500 company this year.  If you check the price chart, there is major spike every time a new covid variant is announced.

Moderna Surges After Saying Omicron Vaccine Ready Early 2022
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The stock jumped 12% to the highest level since Sept. 30 after surging 21% during Friday’s global risk-asset selloff, to reclaim its place as top performer on the S&P 500 year-to-date.

“Moderna is in a better position to develop novel Covid-19 vaccines, and now has capacity to manufacture several hundred million vaccine doses every month,” Tenthoff wrote in a note to clients. “SARS-CoV-2 is not going away and will provide years of future revenues.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-29/moderna-surges-after-saying-omicron-vaccine-ready-early-2022

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« Reply #5166 on: December 07, 2021, 09:47:40 AM »
Didn't Pfizer CEO just say it is a bad thing that Omnicron is more infectious despite being more mild as it will transmit more and create more mutation? They will have a booster for Omnicron in March?

At this rate there is one thing Calbears and unvaccinated people in common: both will never be fully vaccinated
Maybe one day the vaccine will no longer be free and Calbears can join their subscription plan and get a jab every 90 days. Wall Street like subscription model, doesn't it.

Moderna has been the top performing S&P 500 company this year.  If you check the price chart, there is major spike every time a new covid variant is announced.

Moderna Surges After Saying Omicron Vaccine Ready Early 2022
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The stock jumped 12% to the highest level since Sept. 30 after surging 21% during Friday’s global risk-asset selloff, to reclaim its place as top performer on the S&P 500 year-to-date.

“Moderna is in a better position to develop novel Covid-19 vaccines, and now has capacity to manufacture several hundred million vaccine doses every month,” Tenthoff wrote in a note to clients. “SARS-CoV-2 is not going away and will provide years of future revenues.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-29/moderna-surges-after-saying-omicron-vaccine-ready-early-2022

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5167 on: December 07, 2021, 10:26:51 AM »
Remember when the left thought all these Pharmaceutical companies and CEO's were the personification of evil?  Now they just can't get enough...

Meet The 40 New Billionaires Who Got Rich Fighting Covid-19

Shortly after the World Health Organization declared Covid-19 a global pandemic on March 11, 2020, markets collapsed and economies around the world plunged into recession. At the same time, hundreds of billionaires fell from the ranks of Forbes’ World’s Billionaires list, capturing a snapshot of the pandemic’s impact on the fortunes of the world’s wealthiest people.

One year later, things couldn’t be more different: a record 493 new billionaires joined the list this year, propelled by a red-hot stock market and unprecedented economic stimulus. Among those newcomers are at least 40 new entrants who draw their fortunes from companies involved in fighting Covid-19. Some, such as Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and BioNTech cofounder Uğur Şahin, have become household names thanks to the vaccines they helped develop. Others got rich making everything from personal protective equipment and diagnostic tests to antibody treatments and software that helps authorities schedule vaccination campaigns, which will be essential in reopening economies and returning to normal life.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2021/04/06/meet-the-40-new-billionaires-who-got-rich-fighting-covid-19/?sh=5dc850be17e5


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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5168 on: December 07, 2021, 11:23:30 AM »
...another loss and there goes the Federal mandate...Told Ya...

U.S. judge blocks COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors

(Reuters) - A federal judge in Georgia issued a nationwide injunction that prevents the U.S. government from enforcing a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on federal contractors, temporarily shutting down the last remaining vaccine requirement by the Biden administration.

U.S. District Judge Stan Baker in Savannah, Georgia, said Congress did not clearly authorize the president to use procurement to impose a vaccine requirement on contractors that will have "vast economic and political significance."

The lawsuit was filed by the states of Georgia, Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, South Carolina, Utah and West Virginia as well as a trade group for contractors.

President Joe Biden in September said patience was wearing thin with the minority of American adults who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and took several steps including requiring contractors to have their employees get the shots.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-blocks-covid-vaccine-173254136.html

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5169 on: December 07, 2021, 11:24:39 AM »
Stock market up winning.. this is what you said during trump.

Winning

...another loss and there goes the Federal mandate...Told Ya...

U.S. judge blocks COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors

(Reuters) - A federal judge in Georgia issued a nationwide injunction that prevents the U.S. government from enforcing a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on federal contractors, temporarily shutting down the last remaining vaccine requirement by the Biden administration.

U.S. District Judge Stan Baker in Savannah, Georgia, said Congress did not clearly authorize the president to use procurement to impose a vaccine requirement on contractors that will have "vast economic and political significance."

The lawsuit was filed by the states of Georgia, Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, South Carolina, Utah and West Virginia as well as a trade group for contractors.

President Joe Biden in September said patience was wearing thin with the minority of American adults who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and took several steps including requiring contractors to have their employees get the shots.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-blocks-covid-vaccine-173254136.html

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5170 on: December 07, 2021, 11:38:30 AM »
I got two pfizer vaccines. I'm positive the thrombophlebitis I developed after the second was related to the vax. Came and went within days and never had it before or after. Also had some eye issues which are an autoimmune problem which I have had under control for many years. First shot I didn't relate to the eye issue but thought it was really strange because humidity was 65% so there was no reason my eyes should have these problems. Second shot happened again and thinking back to the time frame of the first occurrence I knew it must have been related to the vax. These were never reported to VAERS but they are known issues written up in medical journals.

My daughter had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. Was that related to the vax? Maybe, maybe not. The rate of miscarriage quoted in a previous post here on TI is not anything more than "normal". Most miscarriages are due to a genetic issue which was absolutely not the case. She had an IVF embryo, and it was screened for genetic problems before they implanted it. Had an ultrasound which showed the baby moving and heartbeat with no abnormalities. A week later it was dead. They sent the embryo in for testing and didn't find a thing wrong.

No one knows what the real long term effects are for the vaccines, not even the manufacturers and that is a fact. Long term has not happened yet.


COVID-19 Vaccine Doesn’t Cause Miscarriage, Infertility

https://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/mas/news/covid-19-vaccine-doesn-t-cause-miscarriage-infertility-1814936

Supposedly. Like I said, maybe, maybe not. So far there is no increased incidence percentage wise of miscarriages. However, we really have not tested the vaccine long enough, imo to really know for sure. Was her data put into any data base? I don't know. I never asked. My daughter was absolutely devastated behind comprehension.

What did the in vitro clinic say about it? Maybe, maybe not. There is no proof............ yet.

There was not one thing wrong with the embryo. There was no evidence of a blood clot in the placenta, no abruption, no premature ruptured membranes, no bacterial infection, no genetic problems, no structural defects......... nothing, just an absolutely perfectly formed girl. It was completely viable, moving, etc and appropriate size via ultrasound (IVF implanted babies have an absolutely known age to the day). A week later it was dead for no known reason, including cord around the neck.

Is there an increase in incidence of miscarriages before a woman knows she is pregnant? That is entirely possible. No way to tell that, one way or the other.

We do know there are women who have died getting covid while pregnant, so overall I think it's wise to have the vaccines beforehand, but that doesn't mean I think they are in fact risk free, in the LONG term and I myself have had issues. Thrombophlebitis is not something u really want to get.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5171 on: December 07, 2021, 11:43:12 AM »
Stock market up winning.. this is what you said during trump.

Winning

...another loss and there goes the Federal mandate...Told Ya...

U.S. judge blocks COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors

(Reuters) - A federal judge in Georgia issued a nationwide injunction that prevents the U.S. government from enforcing a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on federal contractors, temporarily shutting down the last remaining vaccine requirement by the Biden administration.

U.S. District Judge Stan Baker in Savannah, Georgia, said Congress did not clearly authorize the president to use procurement to impose a vaccine requirement on contractors that will have "vast economic and political significance."

The lawsuit was filed by the states of Georgia, Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, South Carolina, Utah and West Virginia as well as a trade group for contractors.

President Joe Biden in September said patience was wearing thin with the minority of American adults who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and took several steps including requiring contractors to have their employees get the shots.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-blocks-covid-vaccine-173254136.html

Yup!!  the left has overstepped everywhere and thankfully...common sense is returning.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5172 on: December 07, 2021, 11:49:36 AM »
Stock market up winning.. this is what you said during trump.

Winning

...another loss and there goes the Federal mandate...Told Ya...

U.S. judge blocks COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors

(Reuters) - A federal judge in Georgia issued a nationwide injunction that prevents the U.S. government from enforcing a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on federal contractors, temporarily shutting down the last remaining vaccine requirement by the Biden administration.

U.S. District Judge Stan Baker in Savannah, Georgia, said Congress did not clearly authorize the president to use procurement to impose a vaccine requirement on contractors that will have "vast economic and political significance."

The lawsuit was filed by the states of Georgia, Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, South Carolina, Utah and West Virginia as well as a trade group for contractors.

President Joe Biden in September said patience was wearing thin with the minority of American adults who refused to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and took several steps including requiring contractors to have their employees get the shots.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-blocks-covid-vaccine-173254136.html

Yup!!  the left has overstepped everywhere and thankfully...common sense is returning.


Nope stock market is up. Winn-ning

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5173 on: December 07, 2021, 11:54:44 AM »
Didnt you get the vaccine?

Yes, I did. I am pro-vaccination. I am also pro-choice for someone else to decide if they want to get themselves or their kids vaccinated. I don't think we should dismiss the concerns of those who are hesitant to get vaccinated. I believe we need better systems to quantify the side effects of vaccines. Our systems/institutions have been/are failing us and need to be replaced by something better.

I don't believe in mandating vaccines. My position might change if we were dealing with a scenario like in the movie Contagion, but this is nothing of the sort.

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« Reply #5174 on: December 07, 2021, 12:02:20 PM »
Didnt you get the vaccine?

Yes, I did. I am pro-vaccination. I am also pro-choice for someone else to decide if they want to get themselves or their kids vaccinated. I don't think we should dismiss the concerns of those who are hesitant to get vaccinated. I believe we need better systems to quantify the side effects of vaccines. Our systems/institutions have been/are failing us and need to be replaced by something better.

I don't believe in mandating vaccines. My position might change if we were dealing with a scenario like in the movie Contagion, but this is nothing of the sort.

Dont get the booster and dont wear a mask. I will subscribe to your youtube or instagram. haha
You can stand together with the freedom movement and prove to us covid is fake. (Symptons maybe mild only) idk

 

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