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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5025 on: December 03, 2021, 08:41:51 AM »
So much for vax protection...

Dutch say 14 air passengers from S. Africa with Omicron were vaccinated

Dutch health authorities on Thursday said most of the 62 people who tested positive for COVID-19 after arriving on two flights from South Africa last week had been vaccinated, lending weight to a call for pre-flight testing regardless of vaccination status.

In addition, all 14 passengers who were later found to have been infected with the Omicron variant were vaccinated, health officials said on Thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-covid-19-quarantine-ends-most-safrica-passengers-authorities-2021-12-02/

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« Reply #5026 on: December 03, 2021, 09:22:30 AM »
Pandemic of the Vaccinated. Only vaccinated people are the one traveling internationally and they are the ones spreading this variant.

The risk and reward ratio of being vaccinated looks worse and worse every day. Blanket vaccine mandate really doesn't make sense.

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Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines safe for children, not linked to deaths
« Reply #5027 on: December 03, 2021, 10:09:13 AM »
USA Today News: Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines safe for children, not linked to deaths

For children, the risk of death from COVID-19 is low. But public health data shows they haven't been entirely spared from the virus.

"By vaccinating children age 5 and older, we can help protect them from getting COVID-19 and protect them from severe disease, hospitalizations or developing long-term COVID-19 complications," Scott Pauley, a spokesperson for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in an email.

Longley pointed to data from Pfizer's clinical trials, which found the vaccine was safe and more than 90% effective at preventing COVID-19 in children ages 5-11. No deaths linked to the vaccine were recorded.

Our rating: False
Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that CDC data shows "more children will die" from the COVID-19 vaccine than the virus. The CDC and several experts say that's not the case.

Pfizer's vaccine has been found to be safe and effective at preventing COVID-19 in children ages 5-11. While rare serious side effects are possible, the shot has not been linked to any deaths – while children have died from contracting COVID-19. The claim is based on a distortion of VAERS data, which experts say has not shown any causal link between vaccines and deaths in children.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/02/fact-check-more-children-not-die-vaccine-than-covid-19/8740405002/



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« Reply #5028 on: December 03, 2021, 10:55:38 AM »
With all these variants, the best way to combat COVID is to get vaccinated.

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Re: Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines safe for children, not linked to deaths
« Reply #5029 on: December 03, 2021, 11:00:19 AM »
I did not say vaccine is dangerous for the kids. I am just saying their risk is low why not give parents the choice?

Let's do another analogy. Let's say chance of dying in an airplane crash is 1 in 1 million. Chance of dying in a train accident is 1 in 0.25 million. Taking train is 4 times more risky than flying, we should ban train travel? Lets also ban driving as well as it is far more risky there.
You see if both are rare events, comparing the relative ratio can make one look much worse than others.

Just like the dccc famously showed Biden did a good job  lowering the price of gas by a whopping 2 cents per a gallon, but make the decline look steeper with y axis of 0.005 cents. Considering their audience is the left this tell you how smart they are...

USA Today News: Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines safe for children, not linked to deaths

For children, the risk of death from COVID-19 is low. But public health data shows they haven't been entirely spared from the virus.

"By vaccinating children age 5 and older, we can help protect them from getting COVID-19 and protect them from severe disease, hospitalizations or developing long-term COVID-19 complications," Scott Pauley, a spokesperson for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in an email.

Longley pointed to data from Pfizer's clinical trials, which found the vaccine was safe and more than 90% effective at preventing COVID-19 in children ages 5-11. No deaths linked to the vaccine were recorded.

Our rating: False
Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that CDC data shows "more children will die" from the COVID-19 vaccine than the virus. The CDC and several experts say that's not the case.

Pfizer's vaccine has been found to be safe and effective at preventing COVID-19 in children ages 5-11. While rare serious side effects are possible, the shot has not been linked to any deaths – while children have died from contracting COVID-19. The claim is based on a distortion of VAERS data, which experts say has not shown any causal link between vaccines and deaths in children.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/02/fact-check-more-children-not-die-vaccine-than-covid-19/8740405002/

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5030 on: December 03, 2021, 11:06:31 AM »
There's a slight spike of first time vaccination due to Omicron infection spreading to 5 states now.

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« Reply #5031 on: December 03, 2021, 11:08:08 AM »
Not just vaccinated, booster shot for every variant every 6 months and pray the rare chance of vaccine adverse side effects does not occur to you. So one has to weigh the risk and reward of continuing booster shots.

With all these variants, the best way to combat COVID is to get vaccinated.

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« Reply #5032 on: December 03, 2021, 11:13:15 AM »
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/omicron-covid-19-variant-case-identified-minnesota-2021-12-02/

"California, Colorado and Minnesota have found cases of the coronavirus variant among patients who were fully vaccinated and developed mild symptoms, while Hawaii reported a case with an unvaccinated person, who had moderate symptoms."

Sample size is small, but it shows that it helps to be vaccinated.

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« Reply #5033 on: December 03, 2021, 11:14:58 AM »
Not just vaccinated, booster shot for every variant every 6 months and pray the rare chance of vaccine adverse side effects does not occur to you. So one has to weigh the risk and reward of continuing booster shots.

With all these variants, the best way to combat COVID is to get vaccinated.

I see that you still choose to be a moron.

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« Reply #5034 on: December 03, 2021, 11:44:50 AM »
They can never answer why the top Republicans are vaccinated.
(Some of the responses on youtube chat that people are lying that I came across is that the top Republicans are not  vaccinated. That it is a lie.) Sorry it is a complete joke.

Even on talk irvine there are people that got vaccinated but talking chit about vaccinations. It does not make sense.
They say freedom, but how about are freedom to live a normal life. (like Howard Stern said)
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« Reply #5035 on: December 03, 2021, 11:51:31 AM »
They can never answer why the top Republicans are vaccinated.
(Some of the responses on youtube chat that people are lying that the top Republicans have been vaccinated) Sorry it is a complete joke.

Even on talk irvine there are people that got vaccinated but talking chit about vaccinations. It does not make sense.
They say freedom, but how about are freedom to live a normal life. (like Howard Stern said)


..Because they chose to be...you guys keep getting mixed up on choice vs mandates.  Could care less who is vaccinated.  You should be happy to let the "moronic" unvaccinated cull themselves out.  If you choose to be vaccinated, great.  Don't force those who do not want the jab to consent..they won't. And don't say it keeps you safer...vaccinated carry the same viral loads and can infect just as many as the un-vaccinated.

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« Reply #5036 on: December 03, 2021, 11:54:11 AM »
They can never answer why the top Republicans are vaccinated.
(Some of the responses on youtube chat that people are lying that the top Republicans have been vaccinated) Sorry it is a complete joke.

Even on talk irvine there are people that got vaccinated but talking chit about vaccinations. It does not make sense.
They say freedom, but how about are freedom to live a normal life. (like Howard Stern said)


..Because they chose to be...you guys keep getting mixed up on choice vs mandates.  Could care less who is vaccinated.  You should be happy to let the "moronic" unvaccinated cull themselves out.  If you choose to be vaccinated, great.  Don't force those who do not want the jab to consent..they won't. And don't say it keeps you safer...vaccinated carry the same viral loads and can infect just as many as the un-vaccinated.



Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0730-mmwr-covid-19.html

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« Reply #5037 on: December 03, 2021, 11:56:36 AM »
They can never answer why the top Republicans are vaccinated.
(Some of the responses on youtube chat that people are lying that the top Republicans have been vaccinated) Sorry it is a complete joke.

Even on talk irvine there are people that got vaccinated but talking chit about vaccinations. It does not make sense.
They say freedom, but how about are freedom to live a normal life. (like Howard Stern said)


..Because they chose to be...you guys keep getting mixed up on choice vs mandates.  Could care less who is vaccinated.  You should be happy to let the "moronic" unvaccinated cull themselves out.  If you choose to be vaccinated, great.  Don't force those who do not want the jab to consent..they won't. And don't say it keeps you safer...vaccinated carry the same viral loads and can infect just as many as the un-vaccinated.

But you did not address the question and issue. That many Republicans deny that Trump got the vaccine. (and many others)

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« Reply #5038 on: December 03, 2021, 11:57:35 AM »
They can never answer why the top Republicans are vaccinated.
(Some of the responses on youtube chat that people are lying that the top Republicans have been vaccinated) Sorry it is a complete joke.

Even on talk irvine there are people that got vaccinated but talking chit about vaccinations. It does not make sense.
They say freedom, but how about are freedom to live a normal life. (like Howard Stern said)


..Because they chose to be...you guys keep getting mixed up on choice vs mandates.  Could care less who is vaccinated.  You should be happy to let the "moronic" unvaccinated cull themselves out.  If you choose to be vaccinated, great.  Don't force those who do not want the jab to consent..they won't. And don't say it keeps you safer...vaccinated carry the same viral loads and can infect just as many as the un-vaccinated.

But you did not address the question and issue. That many Republicans deny that Trump got the vaccine. (and many others)

No they don't...you are making things up again.

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« Reply #5039 on: December 03, 2021, 11:59:56 AM »
Yes they do. Go to a youtube chatroom and say that. You would get the response fake news, lies, stop the lies, no bullying

Haha (bullying is asking people why the top Republicans are vaccinated and their message are against vaccinations?)

 

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