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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3915 on: February 25, 2021, 06:35:19 PM »
I used to laugh at guys with oxygen deprivation masks at the gym. They were just ahead of their time :)


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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3916 on: February 25, 2021, 06:58:12 PM »
Everytime I drive by  Crunch and see the line waiting to get in, i think this.  So many WTF in the article. 



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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/25/gyms-coronavirus-masks-cdc-ventilation/

In Chicago, the CDC found an outbreak was tied to a gym that was operating at 25 percent capacity. Although gym members brought their own weights and mats to high-intensity classes, remained six feet apart and were screened for symptoms, including temperature checks, upon arrival, two major basic guidelines to curb the spread of the virus were not met, the report found.

The majority of attendees did not keep their masks on throughout the entire class. Added to this, 22 people attended the high-intensity workouts despite exhibiting covid-19 symptoms and three after having tested positive for the virus.

None of those infected through the gym died, but one person was hospitalized for eight days. The gym reopened 13 days after it closed, and only those who had proof of a negative coronavirus test were allowed to return, the CDC report added.

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In September, a Chicago resident called their gym with alarming news: They’d recently come to an indoor workout class despite feeling sick and then later tested positive for the coronavirus.

The gym quickly shut its doors, but it was too late. Fifty-five of the 81 people who attended high-intensity classes at the facility between Aug. 24 and Sept. 1 would eventually test positive. A similar case tied to three gyms in Honolulu over the summer resulted in 22 total infections.

I'll wait to hit the gym 3-4 weeks after I get my vaccine shot.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3917 on: March 16, 2021, 08:26:57 AM »
...so now distancing rules were BS...why believe anything?....

Fauci: So, The Six Foot Rule May Not Be Necessary

"There's this new study from researchers in Massachusetts, just out this week, it found no significant difference of coronavirus spread in schools where there was six feet of distancing vs. three feet of distancing. But that six foot requirement, that's one of the main hurdles to reopening schools. Does this study suggest to you that three feet is good enough?" CNN's Jake Tapper.

"It does indeed," Fauci said.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/03/15/fauci-so-the-six-foot-rule-may-not-be-necessary-n2586258

FLORIDA VS. CALIFORNIA STATE COVID DATA PROVES LOCKDOWNS DON’T WORK

I’ll tell you: Because then the “experts” who have told us we had to shut down for the past year to fight COVID would have to acknowledge that most of their COVID safety protocols were cosmetic theater with virtually no tangible impact. And they’d have to suddenly answer to the tens of millions of parents whose children have been out of school for a year and answer to the tens of millions of people who lost their jobs or their businesses, and they’d have to acknowledge that states like California got it completely wrong by following the “expert” advice.

And that states like Florida got it completely right by not listening to these experts and simply following the data and the science instead of the fear porn.

But that would require acknowledging that the experts got it wrong and so did most of the media that trumpeted those experts’ arguments as the gospel truth. And it would also require that Florida governor Ron DeSantis, the media’s number one COVID target for much of the past year, got it right. Not by taking a wild and uncalculated risk, but by simply following the science and data over the past year. We’ve known since spring of last year that elderly people were at extreme risk and that people under the age of fifty were under almost no risk. So why did we insist on an absurd policy of locking down everyone?

Lockdowns never made any sense at all.

They don’t work.


https://www.outkick.com/florida-vs-california-state-covid-data-proves-lockdowns-dont-work/

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3918 on: March 17, 2021, 08:35:48 PM »
I agree we've been flying a bit obscured in our lack of knowledge and data, but I will say this:  This is the first time in my entire life that I have not caught a cold over the winter.  So all this mask wearing and social distancing has been good for me in that regard.  Worth it for a cold?  No.  But it makes sense I've also reduced my risk of catching other things.

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« Reply #3919 on: March 18, 2021, 11:08:56 PM »
I agree we've been flying a bit obscured in our lack of knowledge and data, but I will say this:  This is the first time in my entire life that I have not caught a cold over the winter.  So all this mask wearing and social distancing has been good for me in that regard.  Worth it for a cold?  No.  But it makes sense I've also reduced my risk of catching other things.

Yeah, I usually catch something once a year.  I got a little sick in Feb of last year but within 3-4 days I was fine and since then not even a sniffle. 
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3920 on: March 18, 2021, 11:11:53 PM »
FLORIDA VS. CALIFORNIA STATE COVID DATA PROVES LOCKDOWNS DON’T WORK

I’ll tell you: Because then the “experts” who have told us we had to shut down for the past year to fight COVID would have to acknowledge that most of their COVID safety protocols were cosmetic theater with virtually no tangible impact. And they’d have to suddenly answer to the tens of millions of parents whose children have been out of school for a year and answer to the tens of millions of people who lost their jobs or their businesses, and they’d have to acknowledge that states like California got it completely wrong by following the “expert” advice.

And that states like Florida got it completely right by not listening to these experts and simply following the data and the science instead of the fear porn.

But that would require acknowledging that the experts got it wrong and so did most of the media that trumpeted those experts’ arguments as the gospel truth. And it would also require that Florida governor Ron DeSantis, the media’s number one COVID target for much of the past year, got it right. Not by taking a wild and uncalculated risk, but by simply following the science and data over the past year. We’ve known since spring of last year that elderly people were at extreme risk and that people under the age of fifty were under almost no risk. So why did we insist on an absurd policy of locking down everyone?

Lockdowns never made any sense at all.

They don’t work.


https://www.outkick.com/florida-vs-california-state-covid-data-proves-lockdowns-dont-work/

Wow... all fluff no stuff.

Who is Clay Travis? Did you read the "article" before you posted it? This is basically an OpEd with almost zero support and lots of conjecture.

Please do better morekaos instead of trying to mislead people like that star dude.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3921 on: March 18, 2021, 11:38:59 PM »
It’s a “opinion” that is quickly becoming “settled science” no matter who is saying it...

Florida Democrats Wonder: Did Ron DeSantis Actually Get COVID Right?

After a solid year of living with a pandemic, the national press is beginning to ask the question that even Democrats have been quietly pondering in the Sunshine State: Was Gov. Ron DeSantis' pandemic response right for Florida? ... Our death rate is no worse than the national average — and better than some states with tighter restrictions ... The New York Times explored the positives — from the booming real-estate market to Florida's low unemployment rate — of an early reopening: "Much of the state has a boomtown feel," writes Patricia Mazzei, "a sense of making up for months of lost time." The Times notes that Florida's unemployment rate is 5.1%, compared to 9.3% in California, 8.7% in New York and 6.9% in Texas. "That debate about reopening schools? It came and went months ago. Children have been in classrooms since the fall."

If you've been to Florida lately, you already know how apt the "boomtown" observation is. 

I have, and I do...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2021/03/16/florida-democrats-wonder-did-ron-desantis-get-covid-right-n2586265

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3922 on: March 19, 2021, 08:00:41 AM »
FLORIDA VS. CALIFORNIA STATE COVID DATA PROVES LOCKDOWNS DON’T WORK

I’ll tell you: Because then the “experts” who have told us we had to shut down for the past year to fight COVID would have to acknowledge that most of their COVID safety protocols were cosmetic theater with virtually no tangible impact. And they’d have to suddenly answer to the tens of millions of parents whose children have been out of school for a year and answer to the tens of millions of people who lost their jobs or their businesses, and they’d have to acknowledge that states like California got it completely wrong by following the “expert” advice.

And that states like Florida got it completely right by not listening to these experts and simply following the data and the science instead of the fear porn.

But that would require acknowledging that the experts got it wrong and so did most of the media that trumpeted those experts’ arguments as the gospel truth. And it would also require that Florida governor Ron DeSantis, the media’s number one COVID target for much of the past year, got it right. Not by taking a wild and uncalculated risk, but by simply following the science and data over the past year. We’ve known since spring of last year that elderly people were at extreme risk and that people under the age of fifty were under almost no risk. So why did we insist on an absurd policy of locking down everyone?

Lockdowns never made any sense at all.

They don’t work.


https://www.outkick.com/florida-vs-california-state-covid-data-proves-lockdowns-dont-work/

Wow... all fluff no stuff.

Who is Clay Travis? Did you read the "article" before you posted it? This is basically an OpEd with almost zero support and lots of conjecture.

Please do better morekaos instead of trying to mislead people like that star dude.

March 19, covid infections per 100,000 population.

South Dakota: 13,302.
Hawaii: 2,034.

Deaths per 100,000
South Dakota: 217.
Hawaii: 32.

Unlike NY/NJ and the northeast urban center, in South Dakota the first wave took months to reach them, while the NY meltdown spurred most of the lockdowns.

Safety measures, health policies make a difference.



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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3923 on: March 19, 2021, 09:14:30 AM »
More Victories for Florida and DeSantis -- School Data Shows Lowered COVID Activity

Florida consistently has had lower rates of Covid-19 in schools than in the community at large, according to a data dashboard created by Brown University, data company Qualtrics and others. In the last two weeks of February, the daily case rate per 100,000 people was 22 among students and 15 among school staff, compared with 27 in the community, according to the data. In earlier periods going back to October, the student and staff rates were almost always less than half the community rate.

School reopenings ended up being safer than many feared, said Andrew Spar, president of the Florida Education Association, a teachers union that unsuccessfully sued Florida to try to stop the executive order.


Can't fight a tidal wave...https://redstate.com/bradslager/2021/03/18/more-victories-for-florida-and-desantis-school-data-shows-lowered-covid-activity-n345852


Cant fight a tidal wave...


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C.D.C. Says 3 Feet in Elementary Schools With Masks Is OK
« Reply #3924 on: March 19, 2021, 09:40:09 AM »
C.D.C. Says 3 Feet in Elementary Schools With Masks Is OK

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/19/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-cases

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3925 on: March 19, 2021, 10:26:19 AM »
My kids have been in the classroom since September, and over the Fall there were no issues whatsoever. 

In early January, after Christmas break there were a couple of teachers and a handful of students that had it.  My son's teacher had it unknowingly and exposed the class for 3 1/2 days before testing positive and staying home.  Nobody in the class caught it despite the prolonged exposure.  So the teacher wearing a face shield and desks being spaced 3 feet apart (the school's policy before the recent CDC guidance) were enough to prevent an outbreak.

Despite some teachers and students having it at that time, there were no outbreaks at our school and no documented cases of anybody spreading it to others on campus.

The current numbers for OC are now lower than the September low, so it's almost ludicrous to be having this conversation now.  The kids need to be in school.  There is a mental and physical health crisis that is much more serious than COVID at this point.  The rates of depression are off the charts. 

Older people and sick people should already be seeking vaccination, so there's no reason to continue punishing children and their families in order to protect the elderly. 

Hospitals have absolutely no chance of exceeding capacity at this point, as there is no curve left to flatten.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3926 on: March 19, 2021, 10:45:18 AM »
I think it’s pretty clear the teachers union are just using ventilation, can’t space everyone out to six feet, etc. as a negotiation tactic. My son is in private school and has been since the summer and no outbreaks at his school. There was an admin and teacher who got it but no outbreaks. The teachers/admin are all vaccinated now

I have to imagine the kids will be back in school full time in August for the start of the 21-22 school year. I’m hoping the schools reopen fir full time in April but it seems hybrid is considered being reopened and my older kid has been doing that since the fall. While I prefer a full time reopening in April it seems highly unlikely. We supplement with tutoring but a lot of kids are not as fortunate.

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« Reply #3927 on: March 19, 2021, 10:59:13 AM »
My son is in private school and has been since the summer and no outbreaks at his school...

Mine are in private as well... Thank God! 

I can't imagine paying Irvine prices for "world class" schools that exceed 30 students to a class and have to learn through Zoom, and this hybrid learning nonsense, all while giving their kids severe depression and childhood obesity.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3928 on: March 19, 2021, 11:44:53 AM »
Why so much hatred toward Irvine?

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« Reply #3929 on: March 19, 2021, 11:46:30 AM »
Cause IHO was mean to him...

 

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