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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3300 on: November 20, 2020, 07:05:21 PM »
No, they're not communist countries. I was saying the style you talk or command people are so communist-like. IC also told me to delete my post. You many times tell me and others to stop posting stuff. That's what I'm calling communists style. Finally understood?

1)  I never told you to delete your post.  I suggest that you edit or delete false data/misrepresentation.  Bearing false witness is no bueno.

2)  What is it with you the communist countries?  You think communist countries are the only ones that infringe on human rights and authoritarian?   

People in Taiwan, Japan, SK, Australia, NZ etc. do what they do in part because they care about other people...go read the social media posts and YTubers from Taiwan talking about how it is important for everyone to wear mask so that COVID doesn't get out of control. 

Taiwan never locked down...it did restrict travel and mandate quarantee for incoming travelers and those with symptoms/sick but most of Taiwan went on as usual...people were just convinced by a strong and coherent government that doing this is in the best interest.  Taiwan govt didn't downplay it...they made it serious and people understood it as serious. 

Their government didn't abandon them to the whims of private industries and the marketplace.  It took actions to provide people with PPE and gave daily briefing from experts and scientists about the situation and what was being done.  That is how you instill trust.

What I've been saying might have sounded different than what you're saying, but if you look closely, that's not the case. We both are saying let's wear a mask and practice some distance with others. The only difference is I think that should be practiced voluntarily and you think it should be a mandatory.

Do you really think people in the US is not doing enough of wearing masks and staying home as much as people from Taiwan or Korea? Do you think people don't care about others as much here? What are the things we're doing wrong? Is it all Trump's fault?

Clearly "voluntarily" does not work...it didn't in the red states where they are dealing with a huge outbreak...it didn't work in Sweden...it didn't work in Europe after they relaxed the restriction.  You actually think that governors and government officials want to shut everything down?  You think that Gavin Newsome likes being called out for being a hypocrite? 

Yes..I do think people in the US are not doing enough...60 to 70 percent compliance is not sufficient.  We don't live in bubbles...we cannot' just dome off California from other more less restrictive areas.  The pattern of spread was exactly as predicted and yet you and other skeptics are like "what...people can't police themselves?"

I don't think it is all Trump's fault...I said that before but as the President of hte United STates...he is responsible for the welfare of the citizens of this country.  He chose not to take on that responsibility and instead handed it off to governors to handle and then blame them for screwing it up. 

I made this analogy before...if California and New York were invades by a foreign army or agents...would the proper response from the Federal government:  "You know what California and New York...you handle it and we will totally back you up..."

When 9/11 happened, did the federal government go..hey Rudy/NYC you handle it?  No...freaking FBI and NSA were at ground zero as soon as it was safe to be there trying to figure out what happened and how to stop it.  In this case, the federal government knew the risks and issues and said "what me?"

That's is negligence, malpractice, ,and borderline criminal.

Umm.. so all you're saying is we should make masks and social distancing mandatory, not voluntary, right?

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« Reply #3301 on: November 20, 2020, 07:12:16 PM »
The fact that TIers and Americans are still debating this 10 months into the pandemic really says a lot about us.

Does it really matter how we feel about it individually?

The more we whine about government infringing on our freedom the longer we will collectively suffer.

Can't believe so many people still do not understand it.

Keep whining

Debating what? I don't think anyone's debating here. We're just sharing our beliefs freely. That's very American indeed. Something you can't do in some other countries since they watch and tell you to delete your message or they even delete it for you. Some even beat you up. Is that what we really want? To get things in control, right?

Understand what? All we can do anyways is wear a mask. I mean you can't even go to Ralphs unless you wear a mask now so we're doing our parts fine.

I think whining goes for everyone here since no one ever changes their views on anything but keep saying the same thing over and over.

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« Reply #3302 on: November 20, 2020, 07:13:38 PM »

Drop you American exceptionalism for a minute, take a vacation to Taiwan and come back.

You will be whining just like I am.

I so want to go back to Taiwan or Korea...need to renew citizenships.

You're both Taiwanese and Korean?

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« Reply #3303 on: November 20, 2020, 07:14:32 PM »
The fact that TIers and Americans are still debating this 10 months into the pandemic really says a lot about us.

Does it really matter how we feel about it individually?

The more we whine about government infringing on our freedom the longer we will collectively suffer.

Can't believe so many people still do not understand it.

Keep whining



How very American of you to complain about others. Almost sounds like whining :-)

Kind of ironic

Drop you American exceptionalism for a minute, take a vacation to Taiwan and come back.

You will be whining just like I am.

Why not N. Korea? They have zero Covid case.

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« Reply #3304 on: November 20, 2020, 08:02:23 PM »
Why not N. Korea? They have zero Covid case.

Are you going for some comedic effect by throwing out a hyperbole?

or does Taiwan equates to N. Korea in your world view?

If latter is the case, then it's no wonder why my point flew right pass you.

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« Reply #3305 on: November 20, 2020, 09:00:30 PM »
Why not N. Korea? They have zero Covid case.

Are you going for some comedic effect by throwing out a hyperbole?

or does Taiwan equates to N. Korea in your world view?

If latter is the case, then it's no wonder why my point flew right pass you.

Former. Why not have some entertainment time to time? I thought Trump was pretty entertaining, but Biden almost beats him. Lately Rudy has been the best.

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« Reply #3306 on: November 21, 2020, 09:23:18 PM »
Why not N. Korea? They have zero Covid case.

Are you going for some comedic effect by throwing out a hyperbole?

or does Taiwan equates to N. Korea in your world view?

If latter is the case, then it's no wonder why my point flew right pass you.

Mety is the Rudy of TI don’t mind him.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3307 on: November 22, 2020, 04:57:46 AM »
Kansas issued a face mask order. Counties that opted out saw COVID-19 cases rise 100% in 6 weeks, CDC says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/11/21/covid-19-kansas-face-masks-prevented-rise-coronavirus-cases/6373257002/




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« Reply #3308 on: November 22, 2020, 05:15:45 AM »
South Dakota nurse says some patients deny COVID-19 is real, even as they die from it

https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/south-dakota-nurse-says-some-patients-deny-covid-19-is-real-even-as-they-die-from-it/


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« Reply #3309 on: November 22, 2020, 05:34:51 AM »
Bloomberg: Sweden Rejects Face Masks as Covid Cases Soar, ICU Beds Fill Up

Sweden, which has a much higher Covid death rate than other Nordic countries, has so far avoided a lockdown. The country has instead relied on voluntary measures in an effort to get Swedes to stay far enough apart to avoid infecting each other.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/sweden-rejects-face-masks-as-covid-cases-soar-icu-beds-fill-up


CNBC: No-lockdown Sweden toughens up restrictions as coronavirus cases rise

On Monday, it announced that public gatherings of more than eight people were no longer allowed.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven announced the new limit on gatherings, lowered from a previous limit of 50 people (or 300 people for some cultural or sporting events), signaling a more aggressive approach to containing the spread of infections.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/17/sweden-toughens-up-coronavirus-rules-as-infections-and-deaths-rise.html


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« Reply #3310 on: November 22, 2020, 07:06:13 PM »

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« Reply #3311 on: November 22, 2020, 07:10:13 PM »
And we've come full circle:
Wear an N95 mask: https://www.wsj.com/articles/some-masks-will-protect-you-better-than-others-11606081251

We are going in circles. The fact is we have one party that is telling their members not to wear masks. So covid might be with us forever.

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« Reply #3312 on: November 23, 2020, 01:23:24 PM »
Why not N. Korea? They have zero Covid case.

Are you going for some comedic effect by throwing out a hyperbole?

or does Taiwan equates to N. Korea in your world view?

If latter is the case, then it's no wonder why my point flew right pass you.

Mety is the Rudy of TI don’t mind him.

Hey at least I don't have a sweat from the black ink on my face.

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« Reply #3313 on: November 23, 2020, 04:13:13 PM »
Trump’s Covid Rally (Comedy Central)
Funny video about covid, and other conspiracy theories from Trump supporters.


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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #3314 on: November 24, 2020, 07:50:22 AM »
Most and least effective face mask to protect against covid ranked by a doctor.

« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 11:41:31 AM by eyephone »

 

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