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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5565 on: January 13, 2022, 01:24:35 PM »
Where was this poll? I didn't take it. Oh wait....

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No wonder morekaos is aware of this.

It also says this:

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Respondents said they trusted their doctor and federal agencies, but not Fauci, Biden or the news media when it came to information about COVID-19

And what are most of our doctors and federal agencies saying?

Get vaccinated and wear a mask.

morekaos foiled again.
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Re: NIH calls for long term monitoring of mRNA vaccine effects
« Reply #5566 on: January 13, 2022, 01:35:23 PM »
@iho

NIH sayinf mRNA vaccine may affect host cells and calling for long term monitoring...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/?s=09

If you look at their conclusion, they are somewhat reserved about vaccinating the young and healthy.

You're not a genetics/molecular bio person, are you?

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5567 on: January 13, 2022, 02:16:18 PM »
Where was this poll? I didn't take it. Oh wait....

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© Provided by Daily Mail

No wonder morekaos is aware of this.

It also says this:

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Respondents said they trusted their doctor and federal agencies, but not Fauci, Biden or the news media when it came to information about COVID-19

And what are most of our doctors and federal agencies saying?

Get vaccinated and wear a mask.

morekaos foiled again.

Gotta stop shooting the messenger just because you don’t like his accent…,

Read the full report: NewsNation’s survey about COVID-19

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/coronavirus/read-the-full-report-newsnations-survey-about-covid-19/?segment=1*devcli*s_amp_id*YW1wLXVfeVREM1NaRTZrWDFkX1FKTkhjRWc.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5568 on: January 13, 2022, 03:10:07 PM »
And from that same poll (bold comments mine):

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Question 1: Thinking about issues facing the country today, how concerned are you about the COVID-19 pandemic? (margin of error: 3%)

Not at all concerned: 6.9%
Not too concerned: 13.2%
Somewhat concerned: 34.2%
Very concerned: 45.6%

So almost 80% concerned

Question 2: Overall, how do you feel about current restrictions around COVID-19? (margin of error: 3%)

About right: 28.3%
Not strict enough: 43.7%
Too strict: 27.9%

Over 70% about right or not strict enough

Question 3: Given recent developments with the omicron variant of the virus, how concerned are you about future variants? (margin of error: 3%)

Not at all concerned: 7.8%
Not too concerned: 13.2%
Somewhat concerned: 36.1%
Very concerned: 42.7%

Almost 80% concerned

Question 4: Do you know a family member or close friend who has been hospitalized or died from COVID-19? (margin of error: 3.1%)

No: 51.2%
Prefer not to say: 0.7%
Yes: 48%

Almost 50%

Question 5: How often do you wear masks when outside your home? (margin of error: 3%)

Always: 45.6%
Most of the time: 21.3%
Never: 11.3%
Some of the time: 21.6%

Over 85% wear masks some, most or all of the time


All different from morekaos' experience.

You are the outlier... not us.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5569 on: January 13, 2022, 03:42:57 PM »
And from that same poll (bold comments mine):

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Question 1: Thinking about issues facing the country today, how concerned are you about the COVID-19 pandemic? (margin of error: 3%)

Not at all concerned: 6.9%
Not too concerned: 13.2%
Somewhat concerned: 34.2%
Very concerned: 45.6%

So almost 55% not very concerned

Question 2: Overall, how do you feel about current restrictions around COVID-19? (margin of error: 3%)

About right: 28.3%
Not strict enough: 43.7%
Too strict: 27.9%

Over 55% too strict or about right

Question 3: Given recent developments with the omicron variant of the virus, how concerned are you about future variants? (margin of error: 3%)

Not at all concerned: 7.8%
Not too concerned: 13.2%
Somewhat concerned: 36.1%
Very concerned: 42.7%

Almost 57% not very concerned

Question 4: Do you know a family member or close friend who has been hospitalized or died from COVID-19? (margin of error: 3.1%)

No: 51.2%
Prefer not to say: 0.7%
Yes: 48%

Over 50% don’t know a soul

Question 5: How often do you wear masks when outside your home? (margin of error: 3%)

Always: 45.6%
Most of the time: 21.3%
Never: 11.3%
Some of the time: 21.6%

Over a third don’t really wear or are lying to a pollster so the don’t look bad


All roughly the same from morekaos' experience

You are the outlier... not us.


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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5570 on: January 13, 2022, 03:59:46 PM »
Wow... so dishonest... most of your experience is the minority answers because you would say things like "not at all concerned"... now it's "not very concerned"?

And now you say the ones that don't agree with your experience are "lying".

And still your misalignments skew only in the 50 percentile... where it's actually the majority on the other side.

Must be nice to live in a world of thought distortions.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5571 on: January 13, 2022, 04:02:42 PM »
Wow... so dishonest... most of your experience is the minority answers because you would say things like "not at all concerned"... now it's "not very concerned"?

And now you say the ones that don't agree with your experience are "lying".

Must be nice to live in a world of thought distortions.

Like all statistics…they can say whatever you want them to say. Covid has proven that.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5572 on: January 13, 2022, 04:04:10 PM »
Wow... so dishonest... most of your experience is the minority answers because you would say things like "not at all concerned"... now it's "not very concerned"?

And now you say the ones that don't agree with your experience are "lying".

Must be nice to live in a world of thought distortions.

Like all statistics…they can say whatever you want them to say. Covid has proven that.

So then what's the point of posting poll statistics?

Oh that's right... you admitted to purposely trolling here.

Please stay out of this thread with your lies then.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5573 on: January 13, 2022, 04:05:46 PM »
As I have always said… the stats are ALL BS!!

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« Reply #5574 on: January 13, 2022, 04:08:46 PM »
Oh... and I apologize... morekaos isn't posting misinformation, he's posting disinformation:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/addressing-vaccine-misinformation.html

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Misinformation is false information shared by people who do not intend to mislead others.

Disinformation is false information deliberately created and disseminated with malicious intent.

Both types can affect vaccine confidence and vaccination rates. Most misinformation and disinformation that has circulated about COVID-19 vaccines has focused on vaccine development, safety, and effectiveness, as well as COVID-19 denialism.

I think akula is borderline between misinformation and disinformation.
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« Reply #5575 on: January 13, 2022, 04:10:40 PM »
As I have always said… the stats my Covid posts are ALL BS!!

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5576 on: January 13, 2022, 04:16:47 PM »
As I have always said… the stats my Covid posts are ALL BS!!

Fixed.

Not lies…Interpretation…same stats… different “truths”.  Different point of view but one man’s truth is another man’s BS. ;D ;D >:D

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5577 on: January 13, 2022, 04:17:50 PM »
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Gotta stop shooting the messenger just because you don’t like his accent…,[/color]


So you DO support Fauci!

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« Reply #5578 on: January 13, 2022, 04:20:26 PM »
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Gotta stop shooting the messenger just because you don’t like his accent…,[/color]


So you DO support Fauci!

Fauci is no messenger..he’s a politician, so yah…I don’t trust him.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #5579 on: January 13, 2022, 07:23:15 PM »
Here is what I mean by two interpretations…the panic porn has created two types..IHO…and me.  The first article is IHO…the second MK…

The Agony of Parents With Kids Under 5

It is the awful feeling that the world has moved on. The White House blithely anticipates a “winter of death” and suffering for the unvaccinated, but, well, that’s their own fault, isn’t it! If you’re fully vaxxed, which you of course could be, omicron will be a sniffle and a five-day reality TV binge! The Atlantic writes of reasonable people saying they’re “vaxxed and done,” people who reasonably say “COVID is becoming something like the seasonal flu for most people who keep up with their shots,” as if everyone has the option of shots to keep up with.

I want to scream. If I can scream, for a second? The pandemic is not fucking over, because children under 5 cannot get fucking vaccinated.

https://slate.com/technology/2022/01/kids-under-5-vaccine-parents.html

Bringing Sanity to the Omicron Chaos

But two weeks and some 650 days into “flattening the curve,” I’m done. I don’t care what cable news is blaring on about these days: In this house, Covid is over. On New Year’s Eve, do you know who we hosted? Two beloved friends who were positive for Omicron and stuck at home alone with mild colds. I feel great about that decision. (And I’m still negative.)

But I’m out of step with my city. When I am asked to show my vaccine card at a bar—even though that says nothing about whether or not I’m actively transmitting Covid—I want to laugh. When I eat at a restaurant where the diners are unmasked but the staff are forced to don stormtrooper headgear and gloves, I wonder if people realize what this looks like. Or when friends ask me to swab my nose so we can hang out, well, I’ll do it only because I try to be polite.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/bringing-sanity-to-the-omicron-chaos

 

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