akkord said:
@mountaineer, the op asked about broad environment concerns specifically to this area, the toll road being the only one, isn't that a good thing?
Go on ND and see the complaints and rants on no retail, Irvine wanting to build more homes in the area, how there are odors, noise pollution from GP's concerts, how PS is farther than everything else, yet I've said OH and PS to In n Out is about the same...I don't hate on PS, I just tell it how it is in my eyes. And if everyone is saying similar things, there has to be some truth to it, even if you don't agree.
Yes, I've lived around Laguna Altura, far worse highway smog and noise.
Yes, I've lived near Portola Parkway and Culver, far far worse noise from cars, day and night, and some spectacular car crashes with no survivor identifiable even.
So yes, PS has FAR LESS noise and smog that most neighborhoods in Irvine. It's about time some reason is brought back to these forums.
The problem is that minority in these forums, those vocal professional posters like yourself and others with 1000s of posts to their name, feel like all of your "views" are correct because they remain uncontested. The reality is, the houses is PS and GP are selling. And yes, we don't have "prestige" attached to your neighborhoods. Got it. And if "VALUE" village means I'm getting a single-family home for $400/sqf with a nice view (at 1.2-1.3 mil, so much "value" there broadly speaking), VERSUS the absurdity that is blindly FCB-driven that is Orchard Hills for $500-550/sqf with absolute zero privacy and zero view, yeah, I guess I'm happy to in the minority that prefers the "value" here.
Again, the crowd here is so full of themselves thinking that a 3000 sqft house in Irvine at 1.2 mil is certainly inferior and "value" like 99-cent store value.
The crowd here on these forums are borderline rivaling the worst stereotypes that is associated with the Newport crowd. And I've met much more humble, "value" driven people from Newport than the crowd here. Calling a 3000 sqft house priced at $1.2 million a "value". Unbelievable.
Now onto your comments here about PS vs other places:
"Go on ND and see the complaints and rants on no retail" - have been a member of ND, read it all the time, haven't read anything that would resembles "ALL" the complaints. Woodbury shopping is literally 5 minutes away.
"Irvine wanting to build more homes in the area," - yes, PS is FAR FAR less dense than most areas in Irvine, at least now, and yes, the entirety that is Irvine is dense, far more dense than PS. Not only far more dense, but with significant lack of privacy with 5 neighbors with a view into your entire yard and room windows. At least in PS, we have lots of green and more separation between rows of houses. Have you been to Woodbury? Cypress Village? Orchard Hills below 1.5 mil?
"how there are odors," - again, beaten to death by you and others in these forums. There are NO odors from the LANDFILL unless you crazily frantically go out and search for it as I stated in the above post. My soil smells worse from overwatering than the landfill. Bee Canyon wash has minor odor sometimes. So do ALL THE OTHER CANYON WASHES elsewhere in Irvine. I lived bordering Jamboree and the wash/waterway near it and 261 has FAR FAR worse odors. I jogged, biked, and ran alongside it day in and day out and the smell is unforgettable. Asphalt smell? it's not made up, rarely I smell it in PS, but far worse in OH. My workplace in Laguna Hills smells worse most days, and smoggy from 5.
"noise pollution from GP's concerts," - I have YET to hear a single concert noise from GP concerts in PS north of Portola parkway. However, living near laguna Altura and Hidden Canyon, we would have unbearable concern noise for years when the amphitheater was still there. I could not even keep the windows open.
"how PS is farther than everything else," - again, made up crap here, 5 minutes from Woodbury shopping center, 3 minutes to 133 highway, 8 minutes to Spectrum parking lot total, 10 minutes to Whole Foods in Los Olivos marketplace. Again, you're making crap up just to serve your ridiculous points.
"yet I've said OH and PS to In n Out is about the same..." - Foothill ranch In and Out is literally 8-10 minutes away. And has NO LINES for drive thru - have you been to the In n Out at Tustin Markerplace? The drive through wait is literally 45 minutes minimum. The line loops around to entryway to REI most days and night.
"I don't hate on PS, I just tell it how it is in my eyes." - Sure, last defense, Trump also says Twitter rants are his opinion. It doesn't diminish the fact that you're spewing skewed views on ONE SIGNULAR neighborhood just to prove your point. You must have been the annoying kid in the school that nobody could even prove any factual matters to. You always said the last word, and you repeated it until you graduated and went on to make points to others in college, and now in your workplace.
I'm not asking you to change your mind. I'm just hopeful the professional posters on these forums realize just because their posts are uncontested, does not mean they have everything right.
Yeah, PS is the closest to the landfill and borders 241. Got it! Thank you for reminding us.