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What type of alternative fuel car are you buying in the near future?

All electric (EV) car, luxury over $50k like Tesla
9 (47.4%)
EV car but lower priced less than $40k like Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Ioniq
7 (36.8%)
Plug-in Hybrid (Chevy Volt, Kia Niro, Honda Clarity)
1 (5.3%)
Hydrogen
0 (0%)
Other
2 (10.5%)

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Offline zovall

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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 08:19:29 AM »
The Standard Range Model 3 (now $35,400) is an amazing car. We doubled down and it is pretty much the same as our Dual Motor Model 3 which cost ~$20k more.

The Standard Range Model 3 is about $40.5k out the door. After the $3750 tax credit (dropping to $1875 July 1st), the $2500 CVRP rebate, and the $1000 SoCal Edison rebate, you are looking at a net cost of $33,250.

We had one of the early LEAFs (leased it) and have had no regrets going electric.

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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 08:26:43 AM »
I'm going to see what those EV Rivian trucks and SUVs look like.



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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2019, 06:45:12 PM »
We have 2x Tesla Model 3s. I'm thinking of selling my Model 3 and trading up to a Model X though. It qualifies for 100% accelerated 1 year depreciation based on tax code. So taking a price of $100,000 and writing it off against my 1099 income then it basically yields me a $70,000 car plus Federal and state EV incentives bringing it down to the low $60s.

I'm going to do that but with the new Cayenne Coupe.
What are your thoughts on  Cayenne vs Panamera? Both are insane values lightly used.

I've never wanted to spend that much money on a car, but if I do I think it would be tough not to go Tesla. Plus the carpool sticker is only EV so plug in hybrid makes zero sense. I've got a cheap eGolf lease now and once you go electric its tough to go back. I think gas cars will be an anomaly a lot sooner than most people think - IMO a decade. There will be wrenching consolidation as the service revenue-fueled dealership model dries up given the dramatically lower service reqs for EVs. A big problem for brands like Porsche will be Tesla's technology lead - hardware/software, drivetrain, battery design and mfg. This will really show up once the regulatory environment around autonomous driving matures, probably also in a decade.

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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2019, 12:14:30 AM »
We have 2x Tesla Model 3s. I'm thinking of selling my Model 3 and trading up to a Model X though. It qualifies for 100% accelerated 1 year depreciation based on tax code. So taking a price of $100,000 and writing it off against my 1099 income then it basically yields me a $70,000 car plus Federal and state EV incentives bringing it down to the low $60s.

I'm going to do that but with the new Cayenne Coupe.
What are your thoughts on  Cayenne vs Panamera? Both are insane values lightly used.

I've never wanted to spend that much money on a car, but if I do I think it would be tough not to go Tesla. Plus the carpool sticker is only EV so plug in hybrid makes zero sense. I've got a cheap eGolf lease now and once you go electric its tough to go back. I think gas cars will be an anomaly a lot sooner than most people think - IMO a decade. There will be wrenching consolidation as the service revenue-fueled dealership model dries up given the dramatically lower service reqs for EVs. A big problem for brands like Porsche will be Tesla's technology lead - hardware/software, drivetrain, battery design and mfg. This will really show up once the regulatory environment around autonomous driving matures, probably also in a decade.

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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2019, 06:54:31 AM »
Plus the carpool sticker is only EV so plug in hybrid makes zero sense.

I thought you can get that sticker on plug-in hybrids too. I see them on Pacificas and Claritys.
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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2019, 07:04:43 AM »
You can: https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/eligible-carpool-sticker-list

I think eventually only pure EVs will get them but there is still some time for PHEVs.

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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2019, 08:26:09 AM »
Anyone looking at the Kia Niro EV or the Hyundai Kona EV? I know they are not Teslas, but Kias and Hyundais are also popular in Irvine.
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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2019, 12:47:48 PM »
Anyone looking at the Kia Niro EV or the Hyundai Kona EV? I know they are not Teslas, but Kias and Hyundais are also popular in Irvine.

I think Kona Hyundai and Kia gives the best bangs for your bucks. And those that drives it doesn’t want to looks all alike, maybe.

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Re: EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2019, 02:35:54 PM »

I'm a bit iffy on EV vehicles that tend to have more snooping sensors.  Most new vehicles sold today have black box that records crash information, but many go far beyond that.  GPS and services like "OnStar" are notorious for collecting wide array of information for big data.  Unlike consumer credit and cell phone service providers there are very few laws protecting our privacy in your car.  You might think the GPS is only tracking consumer habits, but consider how location data can be used to identity (infer) your religious and political affiliations -- I see that you dine at Chick-Fil-A, shop at Turners, and visit Triple B Clays on weekend.  Mark that guy with a red flag!

On a more basic (non big data) level, consider if you set your home address on your car's built in GPS and someone steals your car, they might follow the GPS to rob your home.  So instead of using your real home address, set it to the supermarket across the street.

If you think it'd be easy to order a location tracking jammer on ebay, be aware that you'd be breaking Federal law with possible fines and jail time.

 

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