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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2019, 10:17:51 PM »
Holy crap! My daughter graduated from a second tier college and it is listed as one of the colleges being investigated. Why spend so much to scam second tier colleges. It is interesting that the offsprings of the wealthy aren’t into science so there is no point in scamming MIT or Cal Tech or may be both schools’ sport programs suck so much so athleticism does not override academics.

Many years ago I posted about this guy’s operation and how he faked Facebook persona for his applicants legitimized with  “likes” and followers and praise comments, fake oversea relief trips and several years of manufactured social media trails a scam trap the admission officers doing their google searches.
"I can only imagine at a house warming party what a total embarrassment it would be to tell the guests that there is no tour because there is no more house to show you because you are standing in the only room in the house. "

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 08:37:29 AM »
So they pay to fudge their grades and bought their way in. Then try to write off the bribe on their tax returns.


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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2019, 08:38:52 AM »
Soylent Red and I know an over involved Dad who in 2017 put $100k plus of equipment and flooring in at a local University for a particular sport so that their child could go there. They warm the bench and do not play, but they did get into a good school with noooo problem.

It's too bad this process is repeated over and over and over again at colleges across this land. These thoughtless parents cheat real students out of a chance for a genuine opportunity for advancement. College admissions isn't a meritocracy, but an oligarchy today. That said, unless you're studying for a science/med degree, a college education is worthless. College itself isn't, just what they teach you there for classes like Sociology, and 19th century French Poetry. The benefit of college are the connections one makes and little else. IMHO

Was it worth spending $400k to get into Yale? Perhaps..... as long as you meet the right people in the process. The end evidently now justifies the means.

Also, some are saying "oh... you shouldn't dunk on the kids for stuff the parents did" Sorry that doesn't fly here. These are 18 year old persons who are well past the age of accountability. They knew exactly what their parents were doing, and in some cases actively participated. I don't feel sorry for them getting busted.

My .02c

If you saw the FBI announcement before the news program shortened the clips further, the FBi spokesperson gaffed and literally said something along the lines of 'this isnt like building a building so the university looks favorably on your kids admission'

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2019, 08:40:24 AM »
So they pay to fudge their grades and bought their way in. Then try to write off the bribe on their tax returns.

They were talking about this on ESPN LA radio earlier today.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2019, 10:04:35 AM by eyephone »

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2019, 09:58:58 AM »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political-donors-college-admissions-scandal_n_5c883861e4b0fbd7661ed2fb

Guess those indicted better not look for political support. Toxic PR issue for those politicians who took contributions.

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2019, 10:21:58 AM »
This story keeps getting bigger and bigger.  I wonder if the college consultant business is getting affected.  Probably bad for the bottom line.

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2019, 11:00:55 AM »
So they pay to fudge their grades and bought their way in. Then try to write off the bribe on their tax returns.

“CNBC article: Taxes and penalties may await wealthy parents in college admissions scam

Certain parents allegedly agreed to disguise their bribes as charitable contributions to a non-profit, meaning they could deduct the payments on their taxes, according to law enforcement officials.

The civil tax fraud penalty for that is equal to 75 percent of your underpayment in taxes.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/wealthy-parents-in-college-admissions-scam-may-face-irs-wrath.html

I think we all want the IRS to take action against them. Let’s go!!


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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2019, 11:15:33 AM »
This is like 100 times worst than a diploma mill. They cracked the legit US university system process.

Get ready for Admission fees to go up? (Due to additional investigation fees, verification fees by universities)

or
Do we need the high school admin to sign off that the student was the actual President or member of the chess club etc.? (part of the admission package)
I don’t know if it’s possible to add a requirement to notorized the verification form.

Basically don’t trust the college applicant. They have to prove they were in a group or accomplished something..


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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2019, 11:53:43 AM »
Top 1% spending $400K trying to cheat the top 0.1% who spent $4+ million to donate new buildings to schools in exchange for kid's admission.

Wrong.  The top 0.1% got in also.  Its just that the top 1% only spent 400k instead of 4 Million.  The people that got cheated are the ones who got pushed out by these.

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2019, 12:01:50 PM »
LOL, seriously, listen to the hypocrisy about not having two systems and then actually saying and rationalizing 'not like donating a building'.  So remember, you 'donate' a new building, or remodel, or training facility. 


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Re: $1.2m to get into Yale!
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2019, 12:30:59 PM »
In this article, looks like the Yale price tag was $1.2m.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-cost-of-bribing-your-way-into-yale-12-million-2019-03-12?mod=mw_theo_homepage

And the student got in to Yale is an Asian girl.

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In the Yale case, Singer sent information about the applicant to Laura Janke, another defendant and a former assistant soccer coach at the University of Southern California, and told Janke to create a fake athletic profile, prosecutors said in the indictment.

“[C]ould you please create a soccer profile asap for this girl who will be a midfielder and attending Yale so she has to be very good. Needs to play Academy and no high school soccer, put down you or Ali [Khosroshanin, another defendant and one-time head coach of women’s soccer at USC] as coaches for Academy FC Newport etc ... awards and honors — more info to come — need a soccer pic probably Asian girl,” prosecutors said was written in an email.

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2019, 01:04:35 PM »
Is college coaching that helps or actually writes the essay legal for college admission? Is that a form of cheating?

In my opinion, by having someone writing an essay for you is a form of cheating. Someone told me that someone who writes the admission essay is like a form of cliff notes. Lol

Maybe the college admission formula should just be: gpa, sat scores, and others (such as volunteer work, sports, awards)
No essay should be considered.

Think of it his way. A student can hire someone with a PHD in English or whatever  to write the admission essay. It’s not fair for the rest of the applicants.

In addition, not all college consultants are equal. So you might waste your money on hiring someone because the other kids applying might hire someone that is far better. (My phd example - might even be a PhD student or professor doing a side gig. Not affiliated with the college that the applicant is applying to of course. At least I hope. Another thought came to my mind. They might hire an ex person that use to work for the admissions office. Not just any person. Let’s say a director of admissions. So that person knows what to write in an essay. If that’s the case the other applicants are really behind the curve.)

I bring up valid points. But no one is going to talk about it.
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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2019, 01:31:39 PM »
Top 1% spending $400K trying to cheat the top 0.1% who spent $4+ million to donate new buildings to schools in exchange for kid's admission.
Wrong.  The top 0.1% got in also.  Its just that the top 1% only spent 400k instead of 4 Million.  The people that got cheated are the ones who got pushed out by these.

It's not a secret that colleges make their own biased decisions on admissions and collect payments in form of donations.  Wealthy donors provide colleges with millions of dollars in grants and shiny new buildings, and their kids are groomed for admissions with expensive tutoring and activities.  This is tolerated to a degree because in theory, the school and its students also reap benefits from the donations.  New library, new computers, funding for school programs, etc.  It also teaches the harsh reality of a socio-economic classed system.

Bill Gates went to Harvard so his daughter does not qualify for legacy admissions at Stanford.  But over the years he had made numerous donations to Stanford, including building named after him and at least one $50 million donation to Stanford R&D.  His daughter Jennifer, along with Steve Jobs daughter Eve are both in equestrian sports and attend Stanford.  Steve Jobs had also made $50 million donation to Stanford medical.

When someone bribes a coach or staff member with $400K for admissions, the $400K goes directly into the person's pocket and does not benefit the school and its students.
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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2019, 01:34:17 PM »
Top 1% spending $400K trying to cheat the top 0.1% who spent $4+ million to donate new buildings to schools in exchange for kid's admission.
Wrong.  The top 0.1% got in also.  Its just that the top 1% only spent 400k instead of 4 Million.  The people that got cheated are the ones who got pushed out by these.

It's not a secret that colleges make their own biased decisions on admissions and collect payments in form of donations.  Wealthy donors provide colleges with millions of dollars in grants and shiny new buildings, and their kids are groomed for admissions with expensive tutoring and activities.  This is tolerated to a degree because in theory, the school and its students also reap benefits from the donations.  New library, new computers, funding for school programs, etc.

Bill Gates went to Harvard so his daughter does not qualify for legacy admissions at Stanford.  But over the years he had made numerous donations to Stanford, including buildings named after him and at least one $50 million donation for Stanford R&D.  His daughter Jennifer, along with Steve Jobs daughter Eve are both in equestrian sports and attend Stanford.  Steve Jobs had also made prior $50 million donation to Stanford medical.

When someone bribes a coach or staff member with $400K for admissions, the $400K goes directly into the person's pocket and does not benefit the school and its students.

I would also say that having kids of famous people got to your school is positive attribute. 

Even taking Laughlin's daughter, she made a whole YT career talking about her college experience...that is a positive thing for USC (even if she said that she didn't like the school part of it).

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Re: $400k to get into Yale
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2019, 01:44:58 PM »
I'd hire bones to be my college consultant.
I'd tip her to write my admissions essay about farting while female.

 

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