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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #720 on: August 14, 2019, 09:38:03 AM »
Not officially but it sure quacks like a duck.  On a positive note, he has taken on the drug situation with vicious efficiency...i support that.  We could use a strong hand in dealing with it here.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #721 on: August 14, 2019, 09:40:37 AM »
Not officially but it sure quacks like a duck.  On a positive note, he has taken on the drug situation with vicious efficiency...i support that.  We could use a strong hand in dealing with it here.

Even you admit that the US drug problem got worse with Trump.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #722 on: August 14, 2019, 09:43:35 AM »
No, its always been bad.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #723 on: August 14, 2019, 09:49:27 AM »
It is. But Duterte (no relation) has like a 75% approval rating.

Duterte's policy on crime (immunity from prosecution for people who shoot drug dealers) has worked so amazingly well that Bolsanaro wants to do the same thing in Brazil.

Critics are calling Bolsanaro the Brazilian Duterte:

https://www.cfr.org/blog/bolsonaro-ascendant-similarities-rodrigo-duterte

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #724 on: August 14, 2019, 09:53:13 AM »
Like Trump, Duterte scares me.

While some of his tactics look like they work, you have to question that type of use of power.
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #725 on: August 14, 2019, 09:58:44 AM »
As terrible as it may sound, some countries need a benevolent dictator (if there is such a thing).  They are not capable of democracy for numerous cultural and socio-economic reasons.  Corruption is too embedded and needs to be forcefully eliminated at the roots.  Thats tough going and to us may look barbaric.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #726 on: August 14, 2019, 12:59:38 PM »
As terrible as it may sound, some countries need a benevolent dictator (if there is such a thing).  They are not capable of democracy for numerous cultural and socio-economic reasons.  Corruption is too embedded and needs to be forcefully eliminated at the roots.  Thats tough going and to us may look barbaric.

Given the state of civil forfeiture, special interest 'lobbying', patronage, revovling door between politics and consuilting/lobbying, and general cozy relationship between unions, corporations and government, do we realld recognize corruption when its right in front of us?

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #727 on: August 14, 2019, 01:05:13 PM »
As terrible as it may sound, some countries need a benevolent dictator (if there is such a thing).  They are not capable of democracy for numerous cultural and socio-economic reasons.  Corruption is too embedded and needs to be forcefully eliminated at the roots.  Thats tough going and to us may look barbaric.

Given the state of civil forfeiture, special interest 'lobbying', patronage, revovling door between politics and consuilting/lobbying, and general cozy relationship between unions, corporations and government, do we realld recognize corruption when its right in front of us?

let's be honest, all governments are and will be corrupt to a certain extent.  the ones that are better at hiding it are the ones viewed as a "democracy".

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #728 on: August 14, 2019, 01:11:07 PM »
As terrible as it may sound, some countries need a benevolent dictator (if there is such a thing).  They are not capable of democracy for numerous cultural and socio-economic reasons.  Corruption is too embedded and needs to be forcefully eliminated at the roots.  Thats tough going and to us may look barbaric.

I’m not surprised by your response. This is totally against the core principles of the US regarding dictatorship. But you are okay with that because you are like a Philippines nationalist. Don’t bring up corruption in context with the Philippines. Innocent people are dying in the Philippines.

Washington Post Article: Duterte has a name for innocent people killed in the Philippines’ drug war: Collateral damage

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/18/duterte-has-a-name-for-innocent-people-killed-in-the-philippines-drug-war-collateral-damage/

Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle of Manila, Philippines, celebrates Mass in 2016 at the Manila cathedral. Addressing 8.000 participants July 22 during the last day of the Fifth Philippine Conference on New Evangelization, Tagle spoke of innocent people dying in the Philippines.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/world/cardinal-tagle-laments-deaths-innocent-people-philippines
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #729 on: August 14, 2019, 02:24:30 PM »
As terrible as it may sound, some countries need a benevolent dictator (if there is such a thing).  They are not capable of democracy for numerous cultural and socio-economic reasons.  Corruption is too embedded and needs to be forcefully eliminated at the roots.  Thats tough going and to us may look barbaric.

Given the state of civil forfeiture, special interest 'lobbying', patronage, revovling door between politics and consuilting/lobbying, and general cozy relationship between unions, corporations and government, do we realld recognize corruption when its right in front of us?

let's be honest, all governments are and will be corrupt to a certain extent.  the ones that are better at hiding it are the ones viewed as a "democracy".

That's why the smaller the reach of the government, the smaller the corruption.

This is why I don't like the Fed handling big money programs... social security, healthcare, etc... even Yang's UBI.
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #730 on: August 14, 2019, 02:33:30 PM »
As terrible as it may sound, some countries need a benevolent dictator (if there is such a thing).  They are not capable of democracy for numerous cultural and socio-economic reasons.  Corruption is too embedded and needs to be forcefully eliminated at the roots.  Thats tough going and to us may look barbaric.

Given the state of civil forfeiture, special interest 'lobbying', patronage, revovling door between politics and consuilting/lobbying, and general cozy relationship between unions, corporations and government, do we realld recognize corruption when its right in front of us?

let's be honest, all governments are and will be corrupt to a certain extent.  the ones that are better at hiding it are the ones viewed as a "democracy".

That's why the smaller the reach of the government, the smaller the corruption.

This is why I don't like the Fed handling big money programs... social security, healthcare, etc... even Yang's UBI.

you won't have to worry about yang's ubi  ;)

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #731 on: August 14, 2019, 03:47:53 PM »
No, its always been bad.

But it has gotten worst. It’s really bad, so bad he doesn’t even talk about it no more.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #732 on: August 14, 2019, 04:29:55 PM »
No, its always been bad.

But it has gotten worst. It’s really bad, so bad he doesn’t even talk about it no more.



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Banning pet store puppies too.  Now look at all the rescue non-profits with $500+ adoption 'donations.'


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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #733 on: August 14, 2019, 04:48:34 PM »
No, its always been bad.

But it has gotten worst. It’s really bad, so bad he doesn’t even talk about it no more.



Junkies==$$$$$

Homeless too.

They're both big business for Government and cronies.

Banning pet store puppies too.  Now look at all the rescue non-profits with $500+ adoption 'donations.'

You know what. You are one smart person.
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #734 on: August 15, 2019, 09:25:49 AM »
Rescue mutts are smarter than their pure bred cousins.
I know because I have a pure bred dog that's dumb as shit.

 

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