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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #375 on: July 16, 2019, 11:53:10 AM »
Such bullying and name calling...I see you are learning to use the very things you loathe and accuse the Trumpster of...bravo.  (don't fret though,  you can't trigger me) >:D

LOL...you think I am trying to trigger you.  As Trump likes to say, I am just pointing out the realities and facts.  How you would like to take it is up to you. 

Trumpsters are proud to support Trump and what he does...I see no reason to for them to think of it as being triggered or bullying.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #376 on: July 16, 2019, 11:54:44 AM »
And there it descends into name calling. Not sure why you always gotta go there. This client has nothing politically in common with me but i value his political insights.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #377 on: July 16, 2019, 12:00:38 PM »
i see we're back to hating on morekaos again today.

the 2020 dem candidates must really be strong if he's all you guys can talk about  ::)

I don't hate anyone..I would just like people to be honest.  Trumpsters claim to love United States and are patriots when in reality they just want things to be way it was in the 1950s when women and minorities were seen but not heard.  They don't want to hear about or the plight of the poor because hey they are poor. 

Again, I said before...I would have much more admiration for libertarians if they just came out and said that they want a world where they can do whatever they want and everyone else can perish.

let's be honest about poor people then.  there will always be poor people.  the left loves to pander to poor people but won't do anything to actually help them because it's politically expedient to keep them in constant poverty and promise free stuff but never actually help them out of it. 

meanwhile, under trump food stamp participation is at a 10 year low, unemployment at record lows, and trump is providing avenues for prison reform which has been a major issue nobody wants to touch.

Yes...but that has nothing to do with Trump.  Did you give credit to Obama for pulling the country out of the Great Recession, 75 months of positive job growth, and for reducing the unemployment rate 5.3%?   

The prison reform bill passed Congress 358-36 and 87-12...yeah that's Trump's doing.

You keep touting Trump's achievements and yet they are either the result of Congressional movement or a continuation of what happened under Obama. 

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #378 on: July 16, 2019, 12:01:08 PM »
And there it descends into name calling. Not sure why you always gotta go there. This client has nothing politically in common with me but i value his political insights.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #379 on: July 16, 2019, 12:01:59 PM »
IC — Happiness comment just shows the usual lofty cliches and grandiose statements without any actual example or data .

Anyways these guys all have plenty of permission slips to continue voting for a racist , and same goes for most of the Oc republicans and trump evangelicals. Thankfully , there is a greater majority of others who want to still live in a civilized democracy that makes OC liveable ...

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #380 on: July 16, 2019, 12:03:31 PM »
IC — Happiness comment just shows the usual lofty cliches and grandiose statements without any actual example or data .

Anyways these guys all have plenty of permission slips to continue voting for a racist , and same goes for most of the Oc republicans and trump evangelicals. Thankfully , there is a greater majority of others who want to still live in a civilized democracy that makes OC liveable ...

Well...Trumpsters are down to nativist calls against minorities and McCarthy level freak out about communism and socialism.   Seems a lot like the 1950s....maybe even the 1850s.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #381 on: July 16, 2019, 12:04:39 PM »
i see we're back to hating on morekaos again today.

the 2020 dem candidates must really be strong if he's all you guys can talk about  ::)

I don't hate anyone..I would just like people to be honest.  Trumpsters claim to love United States and are patriots when in reality they just want things to be way it was in the 1950s when women and minorities were seen but not heard.  They don't want to hear about or the plight of the poor because hey they are poor. 

Again, I said before...I would have much more admiration for libertarians if they just came out and said that they want a world where they can do whatever they want and everyone else can perish.

let's be honest about poor people then.  there will always be poor people.  the left loves to pander to poor people but won't do anything to actually help them because it's politically expedient to keep them in constant poverty and promise free stuff but never actually help them out of it. 

meanwhile, under trump food stamp participation is at a 10 year low, unemployment at record lows, and trump is providing avenues for prison reform which has been a major issue nobody wants to touch.

Yes...but that has nothing to do with Trump.  Did you give credit to Obama for pulling the country out of the Great Recession, 75 months of positive job growth, and for reducing the unemployment rate 5.3%?   

The prison reform bill passed Congress 358-36 and 87-12...yeah that's Trump's doing.

You keep touting Trump's achievements and yet they are either the result of Congressional movement or a continuation of what happened under Obama.

mmmmm yes, 3 years later and we are still claiming achievements during trump's presidency are courtesy of obama LOL

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #382 on: July 16, 2019, 12:11:43 PM »
i see we're back to hating on morekaos again today.

the 2020 dem candidates must really be strong if he's all you guys can talk about  ::)

I don't hate anyone..I would just like people to be honest.  Trumpsters claim to love United States and are patriots when in reality they just want things to be way it was in the 1950s when women and minorities were seen but not heard.  They don't want to hear about or the plight of the poor because hey they are poor. 

Again, I said before...I would have much more admiration for libertarians if they just came out and said that they want a world where they can do whatever they want and everyone else can perish.

let's be honest about poor people then.  there will always be poor people.  the left loves to pander to poor people but won't do anything to actually help them because it's politically expedient to keep them in constant poverty and promise free stuff but never actually help them out of it. 

meanwhile, under trump food stamp participation is at a 10 year low, unemployment at record lows, and trump is providing avenues for prison reform which has been a major issue nobody wants to touch.

Yes...but that has nothing to do with Trump.  Did you give credit to Obama for pulling the country out of the Great Recession, 75 months of positive job growth, and for reducing the unemployment rate 5.3%?   

The prison reform bill passed Congress 358-36 and 87-12...yeah that's Trump's doing.

You keep touting Trump's achievements and yet they are either the result of Congressional movement or a continuation of what happened under Obama.

mmmmm yes, 3 years later and we are still claiming achievements during trump's presidency are courtesy of obama LOL

1)  Did you give credit to Obama for the economy during his presidency?

2)  Trump did inject some stimulus into the economy with the tax cut but the effects were relatively low as compared to the projections and now we have an additional 1.2 trillion deficit.   I will give him those gains but the whole "historical low" thing is silly. 

Edit:  the U-5 and U-6 has ticked up in the last few months...curious to see if that trend continues.

3)  As I previously posted, Trump's achievements includes a continuation of economic growth, getting two Supreme Court justices approved by a GOP majority senate, and love letters with Kim. 

BTW, I thought Trump was against the Fed having low rates during the Obama administration...why is he pushing for low rates now?
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #383 on: July 16, 2019, 12:27:39 PM »
i see we're back to hating on morekaos again today.

the 2020 dem candidates must really be strong if he's all you guys can talk about  ::)

I don't hate anyone..I would just like people to be honest.  Trumpsters claim to love United States and are patriots when in reality they just want things to be way it was in the 1950s when women and minorities were seen but not heard.  They don't want to hear about or the plight of the poor because hey they are poor. 

Again, I said before...I would have much more admiration for libertarians if they just came out and said that they want a world where they can do whatever they want and everyone else can perish.

let's be honest about poor people then.  there will always be poor people.  the left loves to pander to poor people but won't do anything to actually help them because it's politically expedient to keep them in constant poverty and promise free stuff but never actually help them out of it. 

meanwhile, under trump food stamp participation is at a 10 year low, unemployment at record lows, and trump is providing avenues for prison reform which has been a major issue nobody wants to touch.

Yes...but that has nothing to do with Trump.  Did you give credit to Obama for pulling the country out of the Great Recession, 75 months of positive job growth, and for reducing the unemployment rate 5.3%?   

The prison reform bill passed Congress 358-36 and 87-12...yeah that's Trump's doing.

You keep touting Trump's achievements and yet they are either the result of Congressional movement or a continuation of what happened under Obama.

mmmmm yes, 3 years later and we are still claiming achievements during trump's presidency are courtesy of obama LOL

1)  Did you give credit to Obama for the economy during his presidency?

2)  Trump did inject some stimulus into the economy with the tax cut but the effects were relatively low as compared to the projections and now we have an additional 1.2 trillion deficit.   I will give him those gains but the whole "historical low" thing is silly. 

Edit:  the U-5 and U-6 has ticked up in the last few months...curious to see if that trend continues.

3)  As I previously posted, Trump's achievements includes a continuation of economic growth, getting two Supreme Court justices approved by a GOP majority senate, and love letters with Kim. 

BTW, I thought Trump was against the Fed having low rates during the Obama administration...why is he pushing for low rates now?

1. what did obama do specifically for the economy during his presidency?  big bank bailouts?  trump has cut taxes and regulations and is renegotiating defunct trade deals.  the market has responded positively.

2. you're right, historic lows mean nothing!  give me back 10% unemployment under obama  ::) do it for the poor people!

3. don't forget trump has shown how much hate liberals can have for one man  ;)

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #384 on: July 16, 2019, 12:31:36 PM »

1. what did obama do specifically for the economy during his presidency?  big bank bailouts?  trump has cut taxes and regulations and is renegotiating defunct trade deals.  the market has responded positively.

2. you're right, historic lows mean nothing!  give me back 10% unemployment under obama  ::) do it for the poor people!

3. don't forget trump has shown how much hate liberals can have for one man  ;)

1)  So no..you don't give Obama any credit for 6 years of economic growth under his administration but I am supposed to credit Trump with his 2.5 years of growth. 

Wait...negotiating defunct trade deals?  Which deal is that?  NAFTA? Which is being replaced by a NAFTA clone agreement that is not passing Congress?   Can you tell me the substantive differences between NAFTA and the deal that Trump negotiated? 

I like how even you can't come up with an actual accomplishment...apparent renegotiating is an achievement now.

BTW, speaking of the market:

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The short answer is that Trump has quite a way to go. Under Obama, the S&P 500 grew by 56.4%. The Dow Jones Industrials Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq, 92.9%.

The numbers under Trump were 21.4% for the S&P 500, 25.2% for the Dow, and 34.2% for Nasdaq.

https://fortune.com/2019/06/03/stock-market-trump-obama-sp-500/

2)  LOL.  Unemployment was 4.7% in December 2016 when Obama left office.  Clearly, Obama caused the Great Recession and we were all saved by Trump's presidency. 

3)  That's actually the only thing that Trump can tout and is the basis for his support.  Achievements and facts are irrelevant in Trump world. 

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #385 on: July 16, 2019, 12:35:27 PM »
i see we're back to hating on morekaos again today.

the 2020 dem candidates must really be strong if he's all you guys can talk about  ::)

Mind your own bees wax. Maybe you should also volunteer in LB to make it great again?

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #386 on: July 16, 2019, 12:40:31 PM »
Back on topic,  I just had a long talk with a client who is pretty up there in the national Dem world.  He is so far uncommitted to anyone.  This from a multi million dollar doner/fundraiser.  He thinks Bernie is too left, Biden is a lightweight, likes Warren but thinks she is also too tax heavy and too left, is luke warm on Kamalla and sees little from the 1%ers that are left.  That is not a good bench to pick from to take on Trump...seriously.

Some one dumb enough to invest their money with you cannot be taken seriously : )

If I had the money to invest, I would look at using morekaos.

While you disagree with him greatly on politics, your financial calls seems to be similar to his. If you check the Dow threads, seems like morekaos has been right more times than wrong... or maybe I'm mixing posts up.
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #387 on: July 16, 2019, 12:45:16 PM »
Back on topic,  I just had a long talk with a client who is pretty up there in the national Dem world.  He is so far uncommitted to anyone.  This from a multi million dollar doner/fundraiser.  He thinks Bernie is too left, Biden is a lightweight, likes Warren but thinks she is also too tax heavy and too left, is luke warm on Kamalla and sees little from the 1%ers that are left.  That is not a good bench to pick from to take on Trump...seriously.

Some one dumb enough to invest their money with you cannot be taken seriously : )

If I had the money to invest, I would look at using morekaos.

While you disagree with him greatly on politics, your financial calls seems to be similar to his. If you check the Dow threads, seems like morekaos has been right more times than wrong... or maybe I'm mixing posts up.

A big joke. The people I know that work at the big investment firms are nothing like him. They are very professional and don’t offend people. Remember in sales and everything else it’s all about reputation.


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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #388 on: July 16, 2019, 12:47:39 PM »
This is juvenile crap but here we go since nothing else seems to be getting through

S&P500 Equity market returns during Obama tenure = 2270/927 minus 1 = 144 percent over 8 years , so 12 percent CAGR

Do the same thing for trumps 2.5 years so far and you get 11 percent CAGR .

And this is happening despite the largest corporate tax cut in a generation

Again this is not how I judge presidents but for those who use the stock market as an gauge to justify voting for a racist

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #389 on: July 16, 2019, 12:50:19 PM »
Such bullying and name calling...I see you are learning to use the very things you loathe and accuse the Trumpster of...bravo.  (don't fret though,  you can't trigger me) >:D

LOL...you think I am trying to trigger you.  As Trump likes to say, I am just pointing out the realities and facts.  How you would like to take it is up to you. 

Trumpsters are proud to support Trump and what he does...I see no reason to for them to think of it as being triggered or bullying.

He thinks it’s okay when Trump picks on people. But when people do the same thing to him he doesn’t like it.
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