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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #195 on: June 11, 2019, 02:31:40 PM »
JUST DOING THINGS TO SHAKE THINGS UP!

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Two accounts, a new book by the Washington Post reporter Anna Fifield and a Wall Street Journal story, report that Kim’s brother Kim Jong Nam was a CIA informant. Kim Jong Nam was killed in a shocking chemical-weapons attack in the Kuala Lumpur airport in February 2017. Trump was asked about the revelation as he left the White House for a trip to Iowa, and his answer was jarring.

“I see that, and I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un,” Trump said. “I think the relationship is very well, but I appreciated the letter. I saw the information about the CIA with regard to his brother or half brother, and I would tell him that would not happen under my auspices. I wouldn’t let that happen under my auspices. I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/trump-kim-no-north-korea-spying-under-my-auspices/591457/

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #196 on: June 12, 2019, 04:46:35 AM »
Adventures of the idiot in the White House , part 3,066 —

“CNN — President Trump pulls a piece of paper from his jacket he says is one page of a secret agreement with Mexico: "I am going to let Mexico do the announcement at the right time."

The Mexican foreign minister indicated there is no secret or outstanding deal “

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #197 on: June 12, 2019, 06:39:49 AM »
whether you guys on the left think it's effective or not, at least trump is trying to do something.

guess who hasn't done anything for years?  congress.  finally we have a leader who is actively trying to work for us to curb illegal immigration, negotiate favorable trade deals, and on and on.

republicans see him as actually making a difference where congress has failed for years - that is why, where you point and laugh or see a big divisive bully, we see a leader who is standing up for us and working to make america even stronger.

Except he has done none of those things while destablizing economies.

I remember the Trumpsters telling me how Trump was going to solve NK and China...how is that going?   

Remember that $1 trillion tax cut that was supposed to take GDP to 4 or 5%?   How is that going...I guess national debt is just a thing for Dem presidents.

We see an emperor with no clothes and you are telling me that nude is the new awesome.

We do not live in a zero-sum world...United States acting as bully just makes everyone else walk away.   It's just stupid.

you see destabilized economies, we see record low unemployment and record high stock market

you see nk and china unsolved after 2 years of trump in office, we see zero progress with nk and china taking advantage of us over the past 30 years with trump at least making slow progress

you see no effect from the tax cut, we see people paying lower taxes and a booming economy in an otherwise lagging world economy

you see an emperor....we also see an emperor  ;)

btw, still waiting on the rest of the world to turn their back on the us.  trump is throwing his weight around because the rest of the world has been taking advantage of our generosity for years.  finally the american people have a president that is fighting for them!

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #198 on: June 12, 2019, 07:01:03 AM »
So is the Fed cutting rates or not?
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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #199 on: June 12, 2019, 08:10:42 AM »
So is the Fed cutting rates or not?

good question.  I will let the MAGA cheer leaders respond first here -- see how they wiggle and contort out of this one


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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #200 on: June 12, 2019, 08:15:02 AM »
I for one hope he doesn't.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #201 on: June 12, 2019, 08:47:01 AM »
whether you guys on the left think it's effective or not, at least trump is trying to do something.

guess who hasn't done anything for years?  congress.  finally we have a leader who is actively trying to work for us to curb illegal immigration, negotiate favorable trade deals, and on and on.

republicans see him as actually making a difference where congress has failed for years - that is why, where you point and laugh or see a big divisive bully, we see a leader who is standing up for us and working to make america even stronger.

Except he has done none of those things while destablizing economies.

I remember the Trumpsters telling me how Trump was going to solve NK and China...how is that going?   

Remember that $1 trillion tax cut that was supposed to take GDP to 4 or 5%?   How is that going...I guess national debt is just a thing for Dem presidents.

We see an emperor with no clothes and you are telling me that nude is the new awesome.

We do not live in a zero-sum world...United States acting as bully just makes everyone else walk away.   It's just stupid.

you see destabilized economies, we see record low unemployment and record high stock market

you see nk and china unsolved after 2 years of trump in office, we see zero progress with nk and china taking advantage of us over the past 30 years with trump at least making slow progress

you see no effect from the tax cut, we see people paying lower taxes and a booming economy in an otherwise lagging world economy

you see an emperor....we also see an emperor  ;)

btw, still waiting on the rest of the world to turn their back on the us.  trump is throwing his weight around because the rest of the world has been taking advantage of our generosity for years.  finally the american people have a president that is fighting for them!

Again..you think that things are "better" when in fact they are worse.

NK now has more standing and clout in world than before and China is becoming a viable alternative trade partner as compared to US.  But you can't see that.

Economic effects shakes out over years...not in months.  Go ask those farmers in the Midwest and the retail/apparel business how those tariffs are working out.  The fact that you think unemployment rates and stock market are the prime indicators for the economy is hilarious.

Similarly...you see people paying less taxes when all the studies (including the CBO) show that the tax cuts have done none of the things that it was supposed to do and we are facing a $1 trillion deficit.  But hey who cares right?

It's fine...it is what it is.  Trumpsters have always been more about handwaving and symbol than substance. 

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #202 on: June 12, 2019, 09:09:50 AM »
But if GDP, unemployment, incomes, manufacturing, the stock markets, and government tax receipts were tanking while interest rate, energy costs and inflation were skyrocketing you would be screaming bloody murder that Trump caused it....and yet, none of that is happening, in fact, quite the opposite is true, but that outcome (because it's good) he has nothing to do with?

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #203 on: June 12, 2019, 09:47:08 AM »
Biden can't stop plagiarizing others.....

Michael Avenatti: Joe Biden stole ‘my slogan and theme’

Disgraced leftist attorney Michael Avenatti claims Democratic presidential frontrunner Joe Biden basically stole his campaign “slogan and theme.”

Biden announced his campaign slogan “Make America America Again” yesterday.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/06/12/michael-avenatti-joe-biden-stole-my-slogan-and-theme-764125

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #204 on: June 12, 2019, 10:35:46 AM »
IC - doesn’t matter , cult members see what they want to see.  Trump tweeted a “great day” for the market yesterday when stocks actually ended up in the red . They will believe trump over math.   (“Muslim math” for all you VEEP fans) :)

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #205 on: June 12, 2019, 11:55:10 AM »
Goes both ways.

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #206 on: June 12, 2019, 01:47:12 PM »
Biden can't stop plagiarizing others.....

And neither can fortune11 for that matter (h/t Aquabliss).

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #207 on: June 12, 2019, 01:55:04 PM »
Biden can't stop plagiarizing others.....

Michael Avenatti: Joe Biden stole ‘my slogan and theme’

Disgraced leftist attorney Michael Avenatti claims Democratic presidential frontrunner Joe Biden basically stole his campaign “slogan and theme.”

Biden announced his campaign slogan “Make America America Again” yesterday.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/06/12/michael-avenatti-joe-biden-stole-my-slogan-and-theme-764125

LOL is this for real?  "make america america again" ?  trump is such a good messenger that biden (and cpl) can't even come up with their own slogan.  biden is going to be a complete dumpster fire and i cannot wait!

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #208 on: June 13, 2019, 12:37:18 PM »
Just a matter of time until he gets convicted/pleads...curious to see if he steps down.

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California GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter's wife Margaret pleaded guilty on Thursday to conspiring with her husband to "knowingly and willingly" convert campaign funds for personal use and has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Both Hunters previously pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had stolen a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to furnish their lavish lifestyle.

Margaret Hunter appeared alone with her lawyers in a federal district court in San Diego before Judge Thomas Whelan, where she changed her plea in the high-profile case. The congressman did not appear with his wife on Thursday.

She acknowledged she was a member of the conspiracy and as part of that conspiracy, she and her husband spent more than $10,000 on a family vacation to Italy on the campaign credit card, knowing it was well outside the family's budget. Duncan Hunter attempted to set up a one-day tour of a naval base in Italy to justify the trip.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/margaret-hunter-duncan-hunter-california/index.html

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Re: The 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #209 on: June 13, 2019, 01:24:55 PM »
Just a matter of time until he gets convicted/pleads...curious to see if he steps down.

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California GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter's wife Margaret pleaded guilty on Thursday to conspiring with her husband to "knowingly and willingly" convert campaign funds for personal use and has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Both Hunters previously pleaded not guilty to federal charges that they had stolen a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to furnish their lavish lifestyle.

Margaret Hunter appeared alone with her lawyers in a federal district court in San Diego before Judge Thomas Whelan, where she changed her plea in the high-profile case. The congressman did not appear with his wife on Thursday.

She acknowledged she was a member of the conspiracy and as part of that conspiracy, she and her husband spent more than $10,000 on a family vacation to Italy on the campaign credit card, knowing it was well outside the family's budget. Duncan Hunter attempted to set up a one-day tour of a naval base in Italy to justify the trip.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/margaret-hunter-duncan-hunter-california/index.html

Not shocking or surprising at all.

 

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