The 2020 Presidential Election

Liar Loan

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It's time to start a new political thread!!

And what better way to kick off this topic then to announce the sad news that CPL won't be running for President after all:

Avenatti announces that he will not run for president in 2020
After months of meetings and speaking events designed to lay the groundwork for a possible presidential bid, hard-charging Los Angeles attorney Michael Avenatti announced Tuesday he will not run in 2020.

Avenatti, best known for representing porn star Stormy Daniels, said the decision came after consultation with his family.

"I do not make this decision lightly ? I make it out of respect for my family. But for their concerns, I would run," Avenatti, a father of two teenage girls and a 4-year-old boy, said in a statement.

Avenatti?s decision to close the door on a 2020 bid, which he announced in a statement posted on Twitter, comes amid a crush of court hearings and legal proceedings that continue to dog him, including a domestic violence case in which he might face a misdemeanor charge and an ongoing divorce from his second wife.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018...he-will-not-run-for-president-in-2020-1043388
 
one down, 29 more to go

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Ahhh fake news let me count the ways to discredit you.....

Although the details about what it got wrong are still sketchy, BuzzFeed News' apparently mistaken story about Michael Cohen and President Donald Trump is the highest profile misstep yet for a news organization during a period of heightened and intense scrutiny of the press.

No news outlet, for example, has been able to corroborate the Guardian's story in late November about a secret meeting between Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and Julian Assange, who heads WikiLeaks, the online organization that leaked thousands of emails apparently stolen by Russian hackers from the Democratic National Committee. Manafort and WikiLeaks disputed the story, which implied a connection between the Trump campaign and the leaks. The Guardian has stood by the story.

Last month, McClatchy reported that unidentified intelligence agencies had picked up cellphone signals indicating that Cohen had traveled to Prague at the height of the presidential campaign in 2016 Lending credence to claims in the disputed Steele Dossier that Cohen had met secretly there with Russian officials to coordinate with Trump's campaign. Cohen has denied the story, which also hasn't been confirmed by another news organization.

CNN has published at least two disputed stories on the Russia probe.

The first, in June 2017, reported that Congress was investigating a Russian investment fund with ties to Trump transition officials. CNN retracted the article, which was based on a single anonymous source, but never said it was inaccurate; it also forced three journalists responsible for its publication to resign.

A second CNN article in July reported that Michael Cohen intended to tell Mueller that Trump had approved a fateful meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 between Russian operatives and his top campaign officials, Manafort, Donald Trump Jr. and son-in-law Jared Kushner. Although one of the story's key sources - Cohen's lawyer, Lanny Davis - recanted his support for the claim after publication, CNN has also stood by this story, which was co-written by Carl Bernstein, one of The Washington Post's legendary Watergate reporters.

BuzzFeed has also faced a buzz saw of criticism from Trump supporters for publishing the Steele Dossier, a collection of unconfirmed reports alleging that Russian officials held compromising information about Trump, that was compiled by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer. Trump has repeatedly denounced it as "bogus" and "a pile of garbage."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/lifestyle/style/buzzfeeds-stumble-fuels-doubts-about-the-press-even-if-a-few-details-are-missing/2019/01/19/b509ed32-1b93-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html
 
Kamala Harris had affair with Willie Brown to further her career:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomwashington-topstories
 
It's obvious which party is more appealing to the KKK.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard gets 2020 endorsement from David Duke
Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has apparently gotten an endorsement she said she can do without ? from former KKK leader David Duke.

The 68-year-old white supremacist and former GOP Louisiana state senator plastered a banner on his Twitter page prominently featuring a photograph of the Hawaiian lawmaker.

?Tulsi Gabbard for President,? it blares, along with the tagline: ?Finally a candidate who will actually put America First rather than Israel First!?

?Tulsi Gabbard is currently the only Presidential candidate who doesn?t want to send White children off to die for Israel,? the former Grand Wizard tweeted his more than 50,000 followers along with a photograph of Gabbard meeting a US service member and his child.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/05/rep-tulsi-gabbard-gets-2020-endorsement-from-david-duke/


 
Good speech, I think he is a horrible speech giver but it was well written and he pretty much stayed on message...his numbers will rise.
 
morekaos said:
Goos speech, I think he is a horrible speech giver but it was well written and he pretty much stayed on message...his numbers will rise.

did you notice that all the women dressed in white gave the largest applause for...themselves?  LOL

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Please, Please, Please be their platform for 2020...

The ?Green New Deal? begins by asserting ?human activity is the dominant cause of observed climate change over the past century? ? far beyond the ?consensus? that humans have some significant impact on global temperature.

It goes on to declare that ?a changing climate is causing sea levels to rise and an increase in wildfires, severe storms, droughts, and other extreme weather events that threaten human life? ? all speculative claims that even scientists who endorse anthropogenic global warming (AGW) are hesitant to endorse.

It predicts the U.S. will lose $500 billion in annual output by 2100 due to climate change ? which, even if true, would be a tiny percentage.

Next, Ocasio-Cortez and Markey claim that the U.S. is experiencing ?a 4-decade trend of economic stagnation, deindustrialization, and antilabor policies? ? a statement that defies the actual data on economic growth and the revival of manufacturing in recent years, including rising wages for blue-collar workers.

The legislation then laments ?erosion of the ? bargaining power of workers in the United States? ? as if picket lines had something to do with the environment. It also claims that climate change has ?exacerbated systemic racial ? ? injustices,? among other inequalities.

The latter two concerns have nothing to do with climate change ? except in that left-wing environmental policies have tended to increase, rather than decrease, income inequality. Restrictive building codes, for example, have contributed to a housing shortage that has seen the middle class leave coastal cities and suburbs.

The bill also asserts that climate change is a ?direct threat? to national security, citing the very indirect threats climate change allegedly poses to ?stability? in other countries, and as a ?threat multiplier? to the U.S.

It goes on to claim that the New Deal ?created the greatest middle class the United States has ever seen,? but that it also excluded ?many members of frontline and vulnerable communities.?

To address the failures of the New Deal ? the cherished achievement of the Democratic Party for generations ? Ocasio-Cortez and Markey propose a ?green? version whose goal is to ?create millions of good, high-wage jobs? but also to ?counteract systemic injustices.?

It is unclear what, if anything, that has to do with the environment.

Indeed, the first goals of the proposed ?Green New Deal? include securing ?community resiliency? and ?repairing historic oppression? of almost every class of victims the authors can imagine.

(Note: the legislation fails to mention ? even once ? the historic oppression of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer communities. This is a homophobic and transphobic document.)

The core of the Green New Deal is a proposal, within 10 years, to eliminate ?pollution and greenhouse gas emissions? and to meet ?100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources.?

Not even California, the most ambitious environmental state, proposes to achieve that until 2045 ? and even California has no idea how to run the world?s 5th-largest economy on wind and sunshine alone.

Furthermore, the authors say they will proceed ?through transparent and inclusive consultation, collaboration, and partnership with frontline and vulnerable communities, labor unions, worker cooperatives [are we literally in the Soviet Union now?], civil society groups, academia, and businesses.?

Ocasio-Cortez, 29, has clearly never participated in a public planning process. Markey is a political veteran at 72; what?s his excuse?

The Green New Deal will also ?guarantee? a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people [note: not ?citizens? or even ?legal residents?] of the United States.? It will also provide ?high-quality health care?; ?affordable, safe, and adequate housing?; and health and affordable food.? And it bans unfair ?domination and competition? from monopolies ? except the state, of course.

Funding for all of this is to come through ?community grants, public banks [whatever those are], and other public financing.?

There is no mention of the 70% marginal income tax that Ocasio-Cortez has recently proposed to fund what even NPR admits would be the ?trillions upon trillions of dollars? it would cost to implement the Green New Deal.

And all decisions are also to be made only after ?obtaining the the free, prior, and informed consent of indigenous people for all decisions that affect indigenous people and their traditional territories? ? presumably, even outside their present lands.

The Green New Deal, in short, is a document worthy of a 19th-century communist manifesto ? or a 21st-century undergraduate student council resolution. It presents claims unsupported by scientific evidence; makes demands for every benefit imaginable; and has no idea how to build or pay for any of it.

It reads like a Republican parody of the Democratic platform.

The best part: they are serious.
 
Yesss!!! Endorse!  Please!!
https://youtu.be/uq-v1TTUyhM

https://youtu.be/uq-v1TTUyhM

How the Green New Deal is shaping the race for president

In addition to Sens. Cory Booker of New Jersey, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Kamala Harris of California and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, all co-sponsors of Thursday?s plan, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is preparing a possible presidential bid that would focus almost entirely on climate issues.

That sort of emphasis will be crucial, said former California Gov. Jerry Brown, who has twice run for president.

?To make climate change an important [campaign] issue that moves people will require enormous imagination,? he said. ?There are some broad shoulders required.?

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-green-new-deal-20190207-story.html
 
morekaos said:
Good speech, I think he is a horrible speech giver but it was well written and he pretty much stayed on message...his numbers will rise.

Told ya...

Trump's approval rating among likely voters soars to his best in 23 MONTHS at 52 per cent after State of the Union address as border-wall shutdown talks intensify

Rasmussen Reports poll as Trump at 52 per cent approval, his best showing in 23 months and a higher number than his winning edge in 2016
Significant up-swing since government-shutdown low of 43 per cent
New numbers were collected in the three days immediately following State of the Union address
Asked what Monday's number mean, a senior Democratic House aide confided on background: 'I don't know yet if it's horrible, but it sure isn't good'
Polling average is just 42.4 per cent, including mostly those surveys that are open to all Americans; Rasmussen polls only 'likely voters'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6691891/Trumps-approval-rating-likely-voters-soars-best-23-MONTHS-52-cent.html

RCP Average         1/24 - 2/10 -- 42.4 54.2 -11.8
Rasmussen Reports 2/6 - 2/10 1500 LV 52 47 +5
The Hill/HarrisX         2/7 - 2/8 1002 RV 47 53 -6
Economist/YouGov 2/2 - 2/5 1294 RV 42 54 -12
 
Ha ha...never what they expect, winning will always surprise them.

Trump?s Secret to Victory in 2020: Hispanic Voters
Yes, it?s true: The man who wants to build a wall to keep out immigrants is winning over just enough Latinos to get re-elected. Unless Democrats figure out how to stop him.

When President Donald Trump tweeted, on January 20, that he had reached 50 percent approval among Hispanic-Americans, most fair-minded observers reacted with skepticism, if not outright disbelief. Trump was, after all, still the same man who announced his candidacy by accusing Mexico of sending ?rapists? across the border, the same man who ordered refugee children separated from their parents, the same man who has made building a wall to shut out migrants the focal point of his presidency. Yet here he was, crowing characteristic bravado: ?Wow, just heard that my poll numbers with Hispanics has gone up 19%, to 50%. That is because they know the Border issue better than anyone, and they want Security, which can only be gotten with a Wall.?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/24/2020-hispanic-voters-donald-trump-225192
 
Florida Hispanics aka Cubans usually vote Republican anyway, but Florida will probably go Democrat if they really allow felons to vote this time. Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were always suspicious wins. I suspect there was voter fraud involved. It would be ironic if the hackers removed latinos from the voter rolls thinking they were going to vote Democrat even though they really support Trump. In North Carolina they will just throw away the ballots (I wonder if they opened them first).
 
Loco_local said:
Florida Hispanics aka Cubans usually vote Republican anyway, but Florida will probably go Democrat if they really allow felons to vote this time. Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were always suspicious wins. I suspect there was voter fraud involved. It would be ironic if the hackers removed latinos from the voter rolls thinking they were going to vote Democrat even though they really support Trump. In North Carolina they will just throw away the ballots (I wonder if they opened them first).

So...people voting for Dems = fraud.

Of course...dont mind the actual people caught doing voter fraud are GOPers...oh also proponents of gerrymeandering.
 
I love it...polls are wrong and stupid except for the one that supports Trumps.  You may also want to check the sample size in that poll

Let see what happens.
 
Speaking of polls:

Which brings me to Gallup?s 2019 report on global ratings of the world?s leadership. Gallup?s report shows that the median global approval rating for the U.S. among adults in 133 countries was 31 percent in 2018, with large disapproval ratings, including among some of America?s strongest, oldest allies. This number is basically unchanged from the record low the U.S. set in 2017.

These numbers are a clear warning to the U.S. A wake-up call that represents a struggle between democracy and authoritarianism. The world has lost trust and confidence in America. As we know, trust and confidence are the coins of the realm in all matters and especially in international relations.

China and Russia have gained ground, however, according to the new report. After tying with the U.S. in 2017, China?s leadership edged ahead in 2018. At 34 percent, this is China?s highest median leadership approval rating since 2009.

Russia?s approval rating rose to 30 percent in 2018, tying its previous high in 2008. It?s worth noting that the approval ratings of the U.S. and Russia are now on par for the first time.

The world disapproved of U.S. leadership more than the leadership of these other countries in 2018. The median U.S. disapproval rating was 40 percent. This disapproval rating of U.S. leadership was higher than disapproval ratings of Germany?s (22 percent), China?s (28 percent) or Russia?s (31 percent).

When you review U.S. disapproval ratings in nations that have been historically reliable allies over the years, the picture is very bleak. In the U.K., 64 percent disapprove of U.S. leadership; Germany, 73 percent disapprove; France, 65 percent disapprove; and Canada, 79 percent disapprove, to name a few. These ratings speak to the seriousness of where America is today in the eyes of the world.
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...adership-ratings-a-needed-wake-up-call-for-us

From last year:

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx

It's not a zero sum game!
 
While incumbents are usually tough to beat... I'm hoping for a Dem victory.

While my views align more with Republican/Libertarian policies I just can't handle another term of Trump.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
While incumbents are usually tough to beat... I'm hoping for a Dem victory.

While my views align more with Republican/Libertarian policies I just can't handle another term of Trump.

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Irvinecommuter said:
Speaking of polls:

Which brings me to Gallup?s 2019 report on global ratings of the world?s leadership. Gallup?s report shows that the median global approval rating for the U.S. among adults in 133 countries was 31 percent in 2018, with large disapproval ratings, including among some of America?s strongest, oldest allies. This number is basically unchanged from the record low the U.S. set in 2017.

These numbers are a clear warning to the U.S. A wake-up call that represents a struggle between democracy and authoritarianism. The world has lost trust and confidence in America. As we know, trust and confidence are the coins of the realm in all matters and especially in international relations.

China and Russia have gained ground, however, according to the new report. After tying with the U.S. in 2017, China?s leadership edged ahead in 2018. At 34 percent, this is China?s highest median leadership approval rating since 2009.

Russia?s approval rating rose to 30 percent in 2018, tying its previous high in 2008. It?s worth noting that the approval ratings of the U.S. and Russia are now on par for the first time.

The world disapproved of U.S. leadership more than the leadership of these other countries in 2018. The median U.S. disapproval rating was 40 percent. This disapproval rating of U.S. leadership was higher than disapproval ratings of Germany?s (22 percent), China?s (28 percent) or Russia?s (31 percent).

When you review U.S. disapproval ratings in nations that have been historically reliable allies over the years, the picture is very bleak. In the U.K., 64 percent disapprove of U.S. leadership; Germany, 73 percent disapprove; France, 65 percent disapprove; and Canada, 79 percent disapprove, to name a few. These ratings speak to the seriousness of where America is today in the eyes of the world.
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...adership-ratings-a-needed-wake-up-call-for-us

From last year:

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx

It's not a zero sum game!

So they hate us but we love us...who cares what they think?

Americans' Perceptions of U.S. World Image Best Since 2003

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Fifty-eight percent of Americans believe the U.S. rates "very" or "somewhat favorably" in the world's eyes. Though the current figure is up just slightly from the 55% recorded last year, it represents the highest figure Gallup has found since 2003.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/247064/americans-perceptions-world-image-best-2003.aspx

 
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