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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2018, 11:29:14 AM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2018, 11:40:48 AM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system.

Like say New York, West LA, Silicon Valley?  LOL...

Hmmm...NYC has a great mass transit system.   West LA is getting one...Silicon Valley also has a light rail system and BART is getting extended to SJ.

Pretty much all the top metro areas have great transit systems.

Exactly.  Irvine is not world class in this regard.
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2018, 11:48:27 AM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system.

Like say New York, West LA, Silicon Valley?  LOL...

Hmmm...NYC has a great mass transit system.   West LA is getting one...Silicon Valley also has a light rail system and BART is getting extended to SJ.

Pretty much all the top metro areas have great transit systems.

Exactly.  Irvine is not world class in this regard.

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2018, 11:58:24 AM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system.

Like say New York, West LA, Silicon Valley?  LOL...

Hmmm...NYC has a great mass transit system.   West LA is getting one...Silicon Valley also has a light rail system and BART is getting extended to SJ.

Pretty much all the top metro areas have great transit systems.

Exactly.  Irvine is not world class in this regard.

/eyeroll

If you ask the average person in a foreign country if they've heard of New York, LA, Silicon Valley, chances are yes they have heard of them and may even know something about them.  The same cannot be said of Irvine.  It doesn't matter that some immigrants from one particular country favor Irvine.  It doesn't matter that a handful of new money households have splurged on a high end car.  That isn't what defines a world class city.
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2018, 12:04:23 PM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system.

Like say New York, West LA, Silicon Valley?  LOL...

Hmmm...NYC has a great mass transit system.   West LA is getting one...Silicon Valley also has a light rail system and BART is getting extended to SJ.

Pretty much all the top metro areas have great transit systems.

Exactly.  Irvine is not world class in this regard.

/eyeroll

If you ask the average person in a foreign country if they've heard of New York, LA, Silicon Valley, chances are yes they have heard of them and may even know something about them.  The same cannot be said of Irvine.  It doesn't matter that some immigrants from one particular country favor Irvine.  It doesn't matter that a handful of new money households have splurged on a high end car.  That isn't what defines a world class city.

Seriously...I wrote:

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And yet people from all over the world want to spend a lot of money to buy and settle down here.  Those Ferraris, Lambos, and Bentley are not mirages.

that's why the eyeroll...Irvine is not a major metropolis...does not mean it's not in high demand.

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2018, 12:10:01 PM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2018, 12:13:13 PM »
I don't think public transit will reduce traffic.

Has it done that for any other cities with "world class" transit systems?
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2018, 12:14:04 PM »
If Irvine implements a light-rail mass transit system, the hoodlums, riff-raffs, and homeless will DEFINITELY come.

Many progressive cities have a light rail. The traffic is out of control. It really is, too much traffic.

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2018, 12:17:28 PM »
Mass transit should be killed off.  Ride sharing driverless cars should be the future.
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2018, 12:21:57 PM »
I don't think public transit will reduce traffic.

Has it done that for any other cities with "world class" transit systems?

Imagine them without the transit systems.

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2018, 12:29:16 PM »
I don't think public transit will reduce traffic.

Has it done that for any other cities with "world class" transit systems?

Imagine them without the transit systems.

But how can we measure this? Places like NY had the transit system in place during the same time period.

I don't think we can say that public transit will have a measurable effect because traffic in those places is still bad if you want to drive.

It's the whole chicken/egg thing.
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2018, 12:38:20 PM »
I don't think public transit will reduce traffic.

Has it done that for any other cities with "world class" transit systems?

Imagine them without the transit systems.

But how can we measure this? Places like NY had the transit system in place during the same time period.

I don't think we can say that public transit will have a measurable effect because traffic in those places is still bad if you want to drive.

It's the whole chicken/egg thing.

Not really

Mass transit enables for dense pack housing and leads to more service sector jobs (network effects) 

the volume traveling through mass transit in NYC >>> traveling through cars

Not saying mass transit is a solution for Irvine at this point in time given the way it has already developed  .  But I can totally see carpool-like transportation via dedicated autonomous-only lane at some point in the next 10 years. 

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2018, 01:45:21 PM »
Sure, adding mass transit will be good for those who don't have or can afford cars, but I don't feel it will reduce traffic.

That will just enable more people to live in Irvine... and thus traffic won't go down.

Have you seen all those in-build apartmens in the IBC (Irvine Business Center)? It's crazy how many people live here now compared to before.
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2018, 01:57:43 PM »
trains and apt high rise, no problem


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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2018, 02:19:27 PM »
So when is flying cars will be available for Irvine?

 

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