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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2018, 04:26:42 PM »
I loved that movie. Can’t wait for the sequel this summer:


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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2018, 04:30:25 PM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2018, 07:07:32 PM »
I have zero traffic...

This has to be alternative news. I've driven up both Culver and Jeffrey after 5pm and they are crowded like crazy. It's a good thing Irvine had the forethought to build those train bridges or it could have been way worse.

That's because you probably haven't understood the pattern correctly and/or you're not driving the right car or you need to attend ///M driving school.  ;D

Starting at Walnut going up on Jeffrey, you want to stay in the center lane then just pass the overpass, you want to quickly move to the right foremost lane. Why? Because it's gridlock on the left lanes for folks trying to left on Roosevelt and into Cypress Village Plaza. Staying right at this point doesn't slow you down, because there is a designated right lane for the other folks who want to right turn on Roosevelt and go see their preggo lady mistresses.

After you pass CV shopping center but before Trabuco, this is the time to assess who are the slow and fast cars/drivers. Watch out for folks squeezing in from the right turn lane back onto Jeffrey just before Trabuco. There are folks trying to beat you, but for the most part, I purposely box them in since I have the right of way and you can't outgun my pushrod. Don't let these folks in front of you as they will slow you down! Honk them like hell!  Passing Trabuco, you can maneuver on Jeffrey's 3 lane road heading towards Woodbury. Usually the right lane is still faster because folks are now left-turning into Northwood on hideaway and for some odd reason, the mommy-vans like to stay in the middle.

Just before Bryan, you'll need to quickly move back to the center lane as folks are now right turning into Woodbury. Luckily there is a widened gap on the right turn lane so you can still squeeze by cars. After Bryan, it's pretty much home free all the way to Portola Parkway. You can now easily outmaneuver most of the cars here and just PUNCH IT to 80+MPH.

Once you pass Irvine Blvd., you can now GUN it at 90MPH towards Portola Parkway.  ;D Most of the cars passing Irvine Blvd. at this point are BMW 5/7/X5 series, Lexus GS/LS, tons of Model S, all gunning it. It's like NASCAR at this point.

I hope your pushrod has decent (brembo) brakes too .  Honking or not, there will be drivers who will cut into your lane at 20 mph while you are gunning 70+.  Even the better German performance cars don't have stopping distances from 70 mph that are less than 150 feet

But in general you want to be in a lane that has "leavers" (cars changing lanes out) rather than "mergers" (cars changing lanes in) .  Given the ill thought out  design of some of the new construction and mall layouts, this "leaver" lane more often than not happens to be the right lane where one can go fast.

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2018, 07:56:45 PM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2018, 08:14:05 PM »
I have zero traffic...

This has to be alternative news. I've driven up both Culver and Jeffrey after 5pm and they are crowded like crazy. It's a good thing Irvine had the forethought to build those train bridges or it could have been way worse.

That's because you probably haven't understood the pattern correctly and/or you're not driving the right car or you need to attend ///M driving school.  ;D

Starting at Walnut going up on Jeffrey, you want to stay in the center lane then just pass the overpass, you want to quickly move to the right foremost lane. Why? Because it's gridlock on the left lanes for folks trying to left on Roosevelt and into Cypress Village Plaza. Staying right at this point doesn't slow you down, because there is a designated right lane for the other folks who want to right turn on Roosevelt and go see their preggo lady mistresses.

After you pass CV shopping center but before Trabuco, this is the time to assess who are the slow and fast cars/drivers. Watch out for folks squeezing in from the right turn lane back onto Jeffrey just before Trabuco. There are folks trying to beat you, but for the most part, I purposely box them in since I have the right of way and you can't outgun my pushrod. Don't let these folks in front of you as they will slow you down! Honk them like hell!  Passing Trabuco, you can maneuver on Jeffrey's 3 lane road heading towards Woodbury. Usually the right lane is still faster because folks are now left-turning into Northwood on hideaway and for some odd reason, the mommy-vans like to stay in the middle.

Just before Bryan, you'll need to quickly move back to the center lane as folks are now right turning into Woodbury. Luckily there is a widened gap on the right turn lane so you can still squeeze by cars. After Bryan, it's pretty much home free all the way to Portola Parkway. You can now easily outmaneuver most of the cars here and just PUNCH IT to 80+MPH.

Once you pass Irvine Blvd., you can now GUN it at 90MPH towards Portola Parkway.  ;D Most of the cars passing Irvine Blvd. at this point are BMW 5/7/X5 series, Lexus GS/LS, tons of Model S, all gunning it. It's like NASCAR at this point.

I hope your pushrod has decent (brembo) brakes too .  Honking or not, there will be drivers who will cut into your lane at 20 mph while you are gunning 70+.  Even the better German performance cars don't have stopping distances from 70 mph that are less than 150 feet

But in general you want to be in a lane that has "leavers" (cars changing lanes out) rather than "mergers" (cars changing lanes in) .  Given the ill thought out  design of some of the new construction and mall layouts, this "leaver" lane more often than not happens to be the right lane where one can go fast.

pushrods come standard with brembos.  ;D  and it does 60-0 in 90 feet.


Hard to believe when the new m5 stops from 70 in a little less than 150 feet

This may require some ...ahem ... video evidence

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2018, 08:28:52 PM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2018, 09:00:28 PM »

No need. You can check the review here: http://www.motortrend.com/news/20-best-60-to-0-distances-recorded/

Scroll to 1.

Also here: http://fastestlaps.com/lists/top-quickest-stoppers-60mph

Most of the pushrods <100 ft.

Course, I'm not going go hold a gopro and do this to kill my tires and pads. However, do note that it's not just the brakes, it's tires. And weight.

You know how much a M5 weighs? It's a pig at 4,370lbs.  You know how much a push rod is? roughly ~3500lbs.

You can't defy physics.

Unfortunately you can't control the person right behind your car. The soccer mom driving her Cadillac Escalade has a stopping distance of around 130 feet from 60 mph. That doesn't include the poor reaction because she was checking her Facebook account with her iPhone.  By the time her 2.5 ton vehicle comes to a complete stop, you and your pushrod would need some serious body work.

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2018, 10:36:37 PM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2018, 09:28:05 AM »

No need. You can check the review here: http://www.motortrend.com/news/20-best-60-to-0-distances-recorded/

Scroll to 1.

Also here: http://fastestlaps.com/lists/top-quickest-stoppers-60mph

Most of the pushrods <100 ft.

Course, I'm not going go hold a gopro and do this to kill my tires and pads. However, do note that it's not just the brakes, it's tires. And weight.

You know how much a M5 weighs? It's a pig at 4,370lbs.  You know how much a push rod is? roughly ~3500lbs.

You can't defy physics.

Unfortunately you can't control the person right behind your car. The soccer mom driving her Cadillac Escalade has a stopping distance of around 130 feet from 60 mph. That doesn't include the poor reaction because she was checking her Facebook account with her iPhone.  By the time her 2.5 ton vehicle comes to a complete stop, you and your pushrod would need some serious body work.

Also we keep saying pushrod but which one of these corvette's is it  : )

I mentioned 70 mph , you conveniently used 60 mph (does make a difference btw) but maybe we should use 80 mph since that's the actual speed you claim you can achieve on these Irvine streets ...



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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2018, 09:56:41 AM »
I have zero traffic...

This has to be alternative news. I've driven up both Culver and Jeffrey after 5pm and they are crowded like crazy. It's a good thing Irvine had the forethought to build those train bridges or it could have been way worse.

I think we forget what real traffic looks like when we drive in Irvine.

Irvine traffic: The lights weren't all green!?!?!?
Real city traffic: It look me 3+ light cycles to get through one intersection!

That day is coming. It's already at 1 light cycle at some major intersections around 5:30pm... just wait.

But maybe that's why they've installed new cameras on the lights on major roads... so they can manually override the "smart" system.

They are going to have to widen the 5 freeway overpass on Jeffrey within 10 years (they did that to the Culver underpass at the 5 a few years ago).
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2018, 10:48:42 AM »
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2018, 10:53:04 AM »
The UPS or FedEx driver who suddenly cuts into the tiny teeny space in front of your car is also exercising situational awareness -- He knows in this "situation" , he will win and expects you to blink and brake hard

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2018, 11:03:04 AM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system. 

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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2018, 11:16:52 AM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system.

Like say New York, West LA, Silicon Valley?  LOL...
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Re: Building in Irvine: Too Fast and I’m Furious
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2018, 11:25:24 AM »
Blame Irvine for failing to implement some sort of light rail/mass transit system.

Like say New York, West LA, Silicon Valley?  LOL...

Hmmm...NYC has a great mass transit system.   West LA is getting one...Silicon Valley also has a light rail system and BART is getting extended to SJ.

Pretty much all the top metro areas have great transit systems.

 

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