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Get over the hype. ;)
Lot of 1st gen Asians gave up a lot of social (and economic) status when they immigrated. Hence their tendency to brag a lot about their kids. Getting the kid into a top school is a means of rebuilding social status for them. 2nd gen, once somewhat accomplished and integrated, don’t really view college as a means of gaining status.

Imo, Asians could learn something from the Jewish community who seem to have a lot more clout and stronger networks because they appear more supportive of each other and common causes imo
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Getting into Harvard seems pretty easy to me.  Jared Kushner got in to Harvard with non-academic high school classes and mediocre grades and test scores:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/2/16084226/jared-kushner-harvard-affirmative-action

Must be that "wholistic" approach we keep hearing about.

this is exactly what I pointed out as a shortcoming of the " wholistic " approach if you read my post in entirely and not selectively

"Problem is that also leads to nepotism like the legacy admissions for privileged people and leaving out some truly deserving Asian Americans"

I don't think Kushner was a legacy admission was he?  His daddy donated major bucks to get him in.
Correct, Kushner was not a legacy admission, he was admitted in exchange for cold hard cash. So stop whining Asians and get out those checkbooks.

No but he still had to have a legacy vouch for him to be able to get in    --- it is the same thing albeit in a roundabout way , but money is involved -- the $$$ is unspoken, but implied in a true gentlemen fashion. 
at-least thats my experience from people I know at my school from back in the day. 

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Getting into Harvard seems pretty easy to me.  Jared Kushner got in to Harvard with non-academic high school classes and mediocre grades and test scores:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/2/16084226/jared-kushner-harvard-affirmative-action

Must be that "wholistic" approach we keep hearing about.

this is exactly what I pointed out as a shortcoming of the " wholistic " approach if you read my post in entirely and not selectively

"Problem is that also leads to nepotism like the legacy admissions for privileged people and leaving out some truly deserving Asian Americans"

I don't think Kushner was a legacy admission was he?  His daddy donated major bucks to get him in.
Correct, Kushner was not a legacy admission, he was admitted in exchange for cold hard cash. So stop whining Asians and get out those checkbooks.

Or just marry a Harvard guy or gal and exponentially increase your kids’ chances.  Last stat I saw: legacies make up 30% of the incoming class.
If both parents are Harvard people, does that make getting in even easier? I hope not, because that would restrict the Harvard alum gene pool and cause birth defects.

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I think you need to have donated money.  According to a reddit post I read, the easiest way to get in for your child is if you are an alum who has donated to the school.   

That application gets put in the special pile.

This goes to show if you're a dead beat alum, you ain't getting no special considerations.

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This goes to show if you're a dead beat alum, you ain't getting no special considerations.

Maybe that's why bones does application reviews... so that when kids of bones apply... :)
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Good  article on a related subject (for those really interested)


The Ivy League Students Least Likely to Get Married

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/29/upshot/college-marriage-class-differences.html

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4 Years passed by quickly and my daughter will be graduating from college this May. The quality of her education has been stellar and it is not an Ivy school. There are many choices out there for a quality education. I do think the quality of education is better at universities with smaller class size to encourage individual participation vs the test merit base large lecture halls.
 
She is offered an administrative position at a very well known hospital and her employer will subsidize her graduate school tuition.

She has a nearly perfect SAT score with 2 non "A" grades from high school. That was enough to be rejected from the Ivy schools. The competition is harder today than 4 years ago. We hear of numerous acceptances from Irvine schools because the same qualified applicants applied to all 8 Ivy schools.

Parents will continue to pay over inflated prices for Irvine properties because of schools. Unfortunately high achievers will not be competitive enough for the top colleges. Colleges near the OC proper are moving up in the ranking due to higher caliber applicants and the dramatic drop in acceptance rate. CSULB, CSUF and Chapman are among the many.
Per our private college counselor highly selective schools are 30% grades/test scores and 70% your "portrait". For UC it's more like 60/40.

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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

Or Trump!

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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

Or Trump!

Trump university?
That means get someone off the street to be the instructor?

Btw - there was a Trump Univ. settlement.
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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

Or Trump!

Trump university?

Ben Franklin founded the university that he attended.

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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

Or Trump!

Trump university?

Ben Franklin founded the university that he attended.

Trump ain’t no Ben Franklin. Believe me.

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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

Or Trump!

Trump university?

Ben Franklin founded the university that he attended.

Trump ain’t no Ben Franklin. Believe me.

They had a lot in common actually.  Financial freedom at a young age, reality/media stars of their day, and a love of foreign women.

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A real overachiever would just start their own university, like Thomas Jefferson.

Or Trump!

Trump university?

Ben Franklin founded the university that he attended.

Trump ain’t no Ben Franklin. Believe me.


 

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