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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #570 on: May 15, 2019, 11:55:38 AM »
Not excuses..explanations...broken family is yet another factor here. I don't think these kids had an ideal family situation.

Speaking of violent behavior, the father of one of the shooters is a twice deported illegal from Mexico, jailed previously for domestic violence against the shooter’s mother. Illegals are revered by the Democrat Party and any connection between an illegal and the shooting will be dutifully ignored by most of the media.

Lastly one of the Colorado shooters was transgender, a female transitioning into a male. I’m sure there is a specific gender identity term for such a person, but I am not woke enough to know what that term is. Suffice it to say, a female becoming a male will be taking testosterone. There is scientific evidence of an association between higher testosterone levels and aggressive or violent behavior.

In the mainstream media, transgenders are the highest form of human evolution. It would be most inconvenient to raise even the possibility of an association between gender transitioning and the recent school shooting, so don’t expect Meet the Press or Face the Nation to discuss any of this.

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #571 on: May 15, 2019, 12:25:21 PM »
Times are changing. You no longer take a stage coach to travel. I just hear excuses.

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #572 on: May 16, 2019, 10:28:30 AM »
In the mainstream media, transgenders are the highest form of human evolution.
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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #573 on: July 09, 2019, 10:00:59 AM »
New Zealand has just banned civilian ownership of semi-automatic weapons.

Within 48 hours of the country’s worst shooting.

This is how it’s done.

...and it turns out just words again...nothing really changes.

Noncompliance Kneecaps New Zealand's Gun Control Scheme
As of last week, only around 700 weapons had been turned over.

Traditionally relaxed in its approach to firearms regulation, and enjoying a low crime rate, New Zealand has no firearms registration rule. That means authorities have no easy way of knowing what guns are in circulation or who owns them.

"These weapons are unlikely to be confiscated by police because they don't know of their existence," Philippa Yasbek of Gun Control NZ admitted. "These will become black-market weapons if their owners choose not to comply with the law and become criminals instead."

"In Australia it is estimated that only about 20% of all banned self-loading rifles have been given up to the authorities," wrote Franz Csaszar, professor of criminology at the University of Vienna, after Australia's 1996 compensated confiscation of firearms following a mass murder in Port Arthur, Tasmania. Csaszar put the number of illegally retained arms in Australia at between two and five million.

"Many members of the community still possess grey-market firearms because they did not surrender these during the 1996–97 gun buyback," the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission conceded in a 2016 report. "The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission continues to conservatively estimate that there are more than 260,000 firearms in the illicit firearms market."

And who can claim to be surprised? By refusing to comply with restrictions, New Zealand gun owners are just following in the footsteps of their counterparts in Australia, Europe, and the United States. In each of these places, and many more besides, gun owners ignored laws, kept their property out of sight, and frustrated efforts to disarm them.

https://reason.com/2019/07/08/noncompliance-kneecaps-new-zealands-gun-control-scheme/

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #574 on: July 09, 2019, 11:46:22 AM »
you are posting one random online opinion pieces and claiming "nothing changes" .   WTF do you know about on the ground reality in new zealand ?

BTW , where is NRA TV now ?

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #575 on: July 09, 2019, 11:55:35 AM »
Take the word from someone who would know then...

New Zealand struggles to enforce gun-control law
Pro-gun groups threaten legal action as government buyback program falters

Philippa Yasbek, co-founder of Gun Control NZ... Yasbek pointed out that some of the banned weapons, including AR-15 rifles, fall into Category “A” in the New Zealand licensing system, which means they were not required to be registered in police databases and as such will be impossible to trace.

“These weapons are unlikely to be confiscated by police because they don’t know of their existence,” she said

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/30/new-zealand-struggles-to-enforce-gun-control-law/

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #576 on: July 09, 2019, 12:30:10 PM »
you are telling me that every country has some illegal weapons that never be eliminated / seized  ?  wow that's definitely news , thanks.   

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #577 on: July 09, 2019, 12:39:09 PM »
No, i'm saying sweeping gun control legislation and knee jerk political virtue signalling produced 700 guns out of 1,200,000 guns being turned over....that is tantamount to....nothing changes. That is news...for some.

Over 500 guns handed in since ban, but others might not surrender them

Since the Government's decision to ban semi-automatic guns in April, hundreds of firearms have been handed over to police.

Approximately 530 firearms have been handed in following the announcement of the ban, a police spokesperson has confirmed.

However, police are anticipating a number of people with banned firearms in their possession won't surrender them, according to documents obtained by Stuff in an OIA.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/113075749/over-500-guns-handed-in-since-ban-but-others-might-not-surrender-them


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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #578 on: July 09, 2019, 04:44:03 PM »
you are telling me that every country has some illegal weapons that never be eliminated / seized  ?  wow that's definitely news , thanks.

700 turned in out of 1,200,000 out there seem to be more than "some."

NZ never intended the ban to work. You can't go from unfettered gun possession to ban in a single leap. That's why gun control conspiracies in the US always claim they just want to do background checks, etc. and they have no intention of taking away anyone's guns. Of course, the purpose of background checks and registrations is to compile a list for future confiscation. Good thing people are not as dumb as Liberals think they are.

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #579 on: July 09, 2019, 04:55:08 PM »
You were right about one thing fortune, this kind of guilt driven, virtue signaling, liberal failure is “how it’s done!”

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #580 on: July 09, 2019, 05:07:56 PM »
Yet , no One is willing to talk about why NRA TV is dead

Anyways — Keep clutching to your old world views - you guys can afford to since many of you are self employed and can live out your fantasies on right leaning forums like these and likeminded Facebook groups etc .

But out in the real world , norms are changing fast and there is only so much change you can hold off clinging on to a thin undemocratic senate majority. 

Just think of all the stuff you guys took for granted even 10 years ago that is no longer acceptable.

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #581 on: July 09, 2019, 05:22:50 PM »
Just think of all the stuff you guys took for granted even 10 years ago that is no longer acceptable.

the self-serving, sjw way of life that took course over the past 10 years is what brought us all trump, and clutching to failed emotionally-driven way of life will lead to another 4 years of the big t  8)

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #582 on: July 09, 2019, 05:45:20 PM »
Just think of all the stuff you guys took for granted even 10 years ago that is no longer acceptable.

the self-serving, sjw way of life that took course over the past 10 years is what brought us all trump, and clutching to failed emotionally-driven way of life will lead to another 4 years of the big t  8)

It's always darkest before the light...last gasp of the old guard.  In 20 years...demographics will make the country permanently democratic and progressive.  GOP using every page in the book including gerrymeandering and voting fraud to keep in power but the day will come when the dinosaurs die.

US was where California was 30 years ago...same demographic shift...same reactionary grasping of pearls. 

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #583 on: July 09, 2019, 05:46:56 PM »
Who care about NRA TV?  Certainly not me. It is not needed. As I told you. Nothing has changed, no need to push back against air. Like the start of this thread, no changes.

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Re: Once again...nothing to be done but prayers and thoughts
« Reply #584 on: July 09, 2019, 05:53:49 PM »
Just think of all the stuff you guys took for granted even 10 years ago that is no longer acceptable.
You mean like:
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