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Irvine for Responsible Growth
« on: January 16, 2018, 09:56:27 PM »
Irvine for Responsible Growth is a group of neighbors and friends who call Irvine home and are concerned at the pace of development versus the pace of infrastructure buildout. So concerned in fact that we are collecting signatures for The Irvine for Responsible Growth ballot measure.

This is a city initiative started by city residents that would give all Irvine voters a voice in the current and future development of our great city. 

WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP GATHER SIGNATURES

Read details on our website at

 http://IrvineLiving.org and complete "Help the Initiative."

Remember to please FOLLOW and/or LIKE us on Facebook and invite all your Irvine friends!

http://www.facebook.com/irvineliving.org

Thank you,

 

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 02:19:05 AM »
You guys are slow to drum up support on this forum. I posted about your group back in September.
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php?topic=15799.0

Good luck with the signature drive. You’ll have every developer working against you. It will be grassroots vs corporate greed.

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 04:22:58 PM »
Where is the pro infrastructure pro growth group in Irvine? I want to sign up for that one.

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 04:58:01 PM »
I know. We've all been just been too busy. We're all volunteers with real jobs and families to take care of. No funding. Spending most our time canvassing.

Thanks for the help!


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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 09:49:50 AM »
Is there an initiative for below/above ground light rail and high density (Singapore style) development that will leave more open space as parks, wildlife reserves and outdoor shooting ranges?

 

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 10:01:45 AM »
Hmart, be the change you want to see.  Start a group called "Irvine for cancerous growth".

Probably needs a little work on the title.

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 10:14:36 AM »
Is there an initiative for below/above ground light rail and high density (Singapore style) development that will leave more open space as parks, wildlife reserves and outdoor shooting ranges?

Nope because mass transit is seen as evil and bad by rich areas.  Irvine is the main reasons why we don't have the Center Line.

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/04/local/me-centerline4

The lack of public/mass transit in OC is a shame.  There is some movement elsewhere but Irvine and South County will maintain their "wall" by blocking mass transit for as long as they can.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/01/12/construction-expected-to-begin-in-2018-on-streetcar-through-heart-of-orange-county/

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 03:53:22 PM »
Where is the pro infrastructure pro growth group in Irvine? I want to sign up for that one.

Actually, while the Irvine for Responsible Growth initiative doesn't specifically call out "infrastructure growth" ;-) it does require the following:

"Materials reviewed by the city must include, but not be limited to: a site plan; specified project characteristics; the text proposed; a discussion of inconsistencies with existing and planned conditions; an analysis of traffic, density, land use, zoning and intensity impacts (pursuant to mandated standards); a map; and a description of certain mitigation measures;"

The goal of the initiative isn't to stop growth, but ensure that voters/residents are notified when development of a certain size is planned and that Developers and City Council accommodate for the impact to the infrastructure.

Read the summary here:  https://www.irvineliving.org/summary-of-initiative

or full text here: https://www.irvineliving.org/full-initiative

Newport Beach, Costa Mesa, and Dana Point already have similar laws in place.

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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 11:27:08 AM »
Is there an initiative for below/above ground light rail and high density (Singapore style) development that will leave more open space as parks, wildlife reserves and outdoor shooting ranges?

Nope because mass transit is seen as evil and bad by rich areas.  Irvine is the main reasons why we don't have the Center Line.

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/04/local/me-centerline4

The lack of public/mass transit in OC is a shame.  There is some movement elsewhere but Irvine and South County will maintain their "wall" by blocking mass transit for as long as they can.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/01/12/construction-expected-to-begin-in-2018-on-streetcar-through-heart-of-orange-county/

What we need is self-driving cars that provide ridesharing.  This would lower traffic by 2/3 and reduce the need for car ownership and infrastructure spending.  Nobody wants to ride a train or trolley anymore.  Last time I was in San Francisco I did that and it's a big PITA.  Takes too long and doesn't even get you where you're going.
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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2018, 01:56:57 PM »
Ride-sharing is a social change that's tough to implement in a short period of time.

Self driving cars might increase traffic... and traffic accidents. :)
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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2018, 02:36:17 PM »
Self driving cars might increase traffic... and traffic accidents. :)

Self-driving cars will have to show they are safer than human-driven cars to get government approval.  Eliminating human error from the equation will be one of the best things we can do for life expectancy.  Currently, 1/3 of teenage deaths is due to traffic fatalities.  I know I had some close calls at that age. 

Eventually owning a traditional human-driven vehicle will be relegated to hobbyists.  #3CWG's will be a thing of the past.





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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2018, 07:16:19 PM »
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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2018, 09:49:58 AM »
Self driving cars might increase traffic... and traffic accidents. :)

Self-driving cars will have to show they are safer than human-driven cars to get government approval.  Eliminating human error from the equation will be one of the best things we can do for life expectancy.  Currently, 1/3 of teenage deaths is due to traffic fatalities. I know I had some close calls at that age


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No, but I did blow the head gasket and destroyed the engine on my first car.

What I meant though was there were several times that I almost got into bad accidents, but narrowly missed hitting somebody due to good reflexes.
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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 10:34:59 AM »
Irvine mayor gives the middle finger to growth control initiative:

Not a surprise. Mayor Wagner is in the pocket of developers.

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https://www.ocregister.com/2018/03/05/irvine-city-council-adds-ballot-measure-to-counteract-growth-control-intiative/

Irvine residents will weigh in on two additional ballot measures, proposed by Mayor Don Wagner, during June’s primary election.

One will ask voters whether a super-majority, or two-thirds, vote of the City Council should be required for the city to impose new taxes. Currently, the Irvine charter requires a majority vote.

The second, if adopted by voters, would “require that no city procedures or requirements delay important revenue streams from development projects which provide a fiscal benefits to Irvine residents.”

Representatives from Orange County and Irvine taxpayers associations – who Wagner said proposed these ideas to him – told the City Council at a Feb. 27 meeting the measures would protect taxpayers while securing future revenue, from development projects, for the city without having to raise taxes. The Greater Irvine Chamber of Commerce also showed its support for both measures.

But residents who opposed the development measure told the council it would take away people’s right to petition the government. Those residents, who are looking to control growth, are gathering signatures now to get on a ballot a proposed initiative that would give voters the power to weigh in on whether sizable development projects in the city can move forward.

Wagner said his development initiative would prevent the growth control initiative from being applied to projects whose revenue for the city exceeds costs, if voters adopt both of these measures.

The council’s approval of development projects shouldn’t be “trumped by folks at a ballot box, perhaps at a lightly attended election, who are capable of bending the system to their will,” he said, adding if residents don’t like the council’s decision, they should vote council members out of office rather than denying individual projects.

“This is giving to the public the right to say whether this is a power that we want to leave in the hands of the citizens, or is this the power we are going to entrust to the elected representatives who then must themselves stand for election,” he said.

The council on Tuesday voted 3-2 in favor of putting Wagner’s measures on the June ballot, with council members Melissa Fox and Jeff Lalloway opposed.
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Re: Irvine for Responsible Growth
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2018, 04:19:01 PM »
The developers won this round. Irvine for Responsible Growth failed to get enough signatures for the Fall elections. Next round will be the June special election. I hope IRG doesn't give up yet. They need to defeat Measure D.

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https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/17/ballot-initiative-to-control-growth-developments-in-irvine-misses-deadline-for-filing/

Ballot initiative to control growth, developments in Irvine misses deadline for filing

By TOMOYA SHIMURA | tshimura@scng.com | Orange County Register
April 17, 2018 at 4:13 pm
Proponents of an initiative to give voters the power to weigh in on whether sizable development projects in the city could move forward failed to submit enough signatures by deadline.

They had 180 days to submit at least about 12,000 signatures, 10 percent of Irvine’s registered voters, to put the initiative on the Nov. 6 ballot. The deadline was 5:30 p.m. Monday, April 16.

“No petitions were received by the city of Irvine at the close of business yesterday,” city spokesman Craig Ream wrote in an email Tuesday. “Subsequently, this ballot measure does not qualify for the Nov. 6 general municipal election.”

Last year, a group of residents, Irvine for Responsible Growth, submitted to the city an initiative “to give the people of Irvine control of their future.”

Their idea was to require developers to get voter approval for any project adding significant traffic, 40 or more housing units or 10,000 square feet of non-residential use and that would need general plan or zoning changes. Many residents say traffic congestion is the most pressing issue facing Irvine, and some blame it on over development.

Karen Jaffe, one of the proponents, told the newspaper in September that the initiative — modeled after a voter-approved measure in Costa Mesa — would be a way for residents to compete against “the paid lobbyists and campaign contributions from the development community.”

Jaffe declined to comment on Tuesday about not submitting for the deadline.

Development, business and other special interest groups and wealthy individuals poured at least $1.1 million into a network of political committees –which are independent from candidates – that were trying to influence voters in the 2016 Irvine mayoral and City Council races.

Opponents, however, said the initiative could hurt economic growth and slow down crucial developments in Orange County’s third largest city and employment hub.

To counteract the growth control initiative, Mayor Don Wagner in March introduced a ballot measure that would prevent such a regulation from being applied to projects whose revenue for the city exceeds costs. The council approved that measure to be on the June ballot.

 

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