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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #465 on: January 29, 2019, 08:41:39 AM »
The show must go on.

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #466 on: January 29, 2019, 11:14:11 AM »
Right!

What if Dow goes down to 18K then?

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #467 on: January 29, 2019, 01:01:16 PM »
It won't

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #468 on: February 04, 2019, 10:26:28 AM »
Simple answers to simple questions.  A show about nothing

Is the collusion theory dead?

The last two years often seem like a concerted effort to disprove “Occam’s Razor,” the theory that the simplest explanation is usually the right one. As long hoped for links fell through, more complex theories filled the void of collusion. Yet, the simplest explanation still remains most likely, that the Trump campaign, like virtually every reporter and political operative in Washington, wanted to see the WikiLeaks material and any dirt on the Clintons, just as the Clinton campaign paid for any dirt on Trump. The Russian efforts to influence our elections also is neither novel nor new.

Indeed, the United States has engaged in hacking not just our enemies but our allies, as well as intervening in the elections of other countries, just as many of those same countries attempt against us. There is nothing “tantalizing” or “mysterious” in such an explanation, because it is more factual than aspirational. The boring truth here is that criminal collusion theories are weaker today than they were a year ago. While Mueller has found ample basis to charge people with false statements, the record of these filings shows more confusion than collusion in the Trump campaign.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/428178-is-the-collusion-theory-dead



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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #469 on: February 12, 2019, 10:57:34 AM »
Might just turn out to be what everyone said it was...a colossal waste of time and money!!

'They have found NO COLLUSION BETWEEN TRUMP AND RUSSIA!': Trump again touts GOP panel findings on Russia probe after complaining media ignored them

President Trump's former lawyer, John Dowd, says he doesn't expect the special counsel to release a report on his findings in the Russia probe
Dowd said he'd be 'shocked' if any of Robert Mueller's conclusions about the president became public: 'I don't think there'll be a report'
President Trump has been touting findings of Senate Intelligence Committee
Chairman Richard Burr said his panel has yet to find evidence of collusion between the president's 2016 campaign and Russia   
'If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don't have anything that would suggest there was collusion,' he said

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6695653/Former-Trump-lawyer-says-results-Mueller-probe-likely-stay-private.html

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #470 on: February 12, 2019, 11:10:20 AM »
Might just turn out to be what everyone said it was...a colossal waste of time and money!!

'They have found NO COLLUSION BETWEEN TRUMP AND RUSSIA!': Trump again touts GOP panel findings on Russia probe after complaining media ignored them

President Trump's former lawyer, John Dowd, says he doesn't expect the special counsel to release a report on his findings in the Russia probe
Dowd said he'd be 'shocked' if any of Robert Mueller's conclusions about the president became public: 'I don't think there'll be a report'
President Trump has been touting findings of Senate Intelligence Committee
Chairman Richard Burr said his panel has yet to find evidence of collusion between the president's 2016 campaign and Russia   
'If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don't have anything that would suggest there was collusion,' he said

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6695653/Former-Trump-lawyer-says-results-Mueller-probe-likely-stay-private.html


Oh good...sourcing is Trump's former counsel. 

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #471 on: February 20, 2019, 01:00:04 PM »
Might just turn out to be what everyone said it was...a colossal waste of time and money!!

'They have found NO COLLUSION BETWEEN TRUMP AND RUSSIA!': Trump again touts GOP panel findings on Russia probe after complaining media ignored them

President Trump's former lawyer, John Dowd, says he doesn't expect the special counsel to release a report on his findings in the Russia probe
Dowd said he'd be 'shocked' if any of Robert Mueller's conclusions about the president became public: 'I don't think there'll be a report'
President Trump has been touting findings of Senate Intelligence Committee
Chairman Richard Burr said his panel has yet to find evidence of collusion between the president's 2016 campaign and Russia   
'If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don't have anything that would suggest there was collusion,' he said

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6695653/Former-Trump-lawyer-says-results-Mueller-probe-likely-stay-private.html


Oh good...sourcing is Trump's former counsel. 

Fair enough, I'll use Jim Clapper instead. I'm sure we can agree he just loves Trump!!

Mueller report may be ‘anti-climactic,' says ex-intelligence director

...the investigation, when completed, could turn out to be quite anti-climactic and not draw a conclusion about that,” Clapper said Wednesday on CNN.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/430720-former-director-of-national-intelligence-mueller-report-may-be-anti

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #472 on: February 20, 2019, 01:02:17 PM »
incoming investigation of the mueller investigation to determine whether mueller was compromised because there must be russia collusion, surely...there....mus...be.....

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #473 on: February 21, 2019, 10:43:00 AM »
Adam Schiff is now hedging his bets, saying the collusion investigation "may not be the final word" on whether Trump colluded with Russia.  LOL!

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #474 on: March 05, 2019, 12:06:16 PM »
Well, that didn't work..let's try this instead...

As collusion case collapses, Democrats seek obstruction

For two years, most of the national news media have been building the case that Donald Trump somehow colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. Countless editorials, roundtables, and expert segments all fed the perception that “Russia collusion,” an imprecise narrative shorthand for a nonexistent offense, would inevitably be proven. The left promised the puppet of Vladimir Putin would get his comeuppance in due time.

The problem is that this was all a lie. The biggest “bombshell” stories on Russia collusion reported thus far have all been either duds or outright fakes. The special counsel has yet to, and almost certainly will not, file any charges that prove Trump took part in Russia collusion. The overwhelming likelihood is, at worst, the special counsel report will contain unflattering information about the president and some of his close senior advisers.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/432436-as-collusion-case-collapses-democrats-seek-obstruction

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #475 on: March 05, 2019, 12:43:52 PM »
Well, that didn't work..let's try this instead...

As collusion case collapses, Democrats seek obstruction

For two years, most of the national news media have been building the case that Donald Trump somehow colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. Countless editorials, roundtables, and expert segments all fed the perception that “Russia collusion,” an imprecise narrative shorthand for a nonexistent offense, would inevitably be proven. The left promised the puppet of Vladimir Putin would get his comeuppance in due time.

The problem is that this was all a lie. The biggest “bombshell” stories on Russia collusion reported thus far have all been either duds or outright fakes. The special counsel has yet to, and almost certainly will not, file any charges that prove Trump took part in Russia collusion. The overwhelming likelihood is, at worst, the special counsel report will contain unflattering information about the president and some of his close senior advisers.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/432436-as-collusion-case-collapses-democrats-seek-obstruction

LOL...oversight is actual duty of Congress.   Also...GOP spent 30 month investigating Benghazi and 8 years obstructing Obama...they were even glad to admit it. 

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #476 on: March 05, 2019, 02:30:38 PM »
Just wait till they start saying “lock her up “ for AOC

that is the first place these people know to go ... regardless of who the democrat is

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #477 on: March 05, 2019, 04:36:35 PM »
Supoena away. The precedent has been set, ignore them.

Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena

When someone receives a subpoena, they can either comply or challenge the subpoena on certain legal grounds or claim the documents are privileged. What they cannot do is ignore the subpoena and that is what Holder did. For months, Holder has ignored the subpoena. When Darryl Issa asked if the documents had been assembled within the Justice Department, Holder refused to answer. In short, he was thumbing his nose at the committee.
[Check out our editorial cartoons on President Obama.]
Contempt is what is called a remedial power. If you fail to comply with a subpoena, you can be jailed until you do comply. You can also be jailed for contempt as a separate offense. Not shockingly, the most corrupt administration since the Nixon administration quickly announced after the contempt vote that it would not prosecute Eric Holder for contempt.
The problem here is that the Obama Regime believes it is above the law. Eric Holder went off to Disney World the day the House voted on holding him in contempt.
Doesn't that send a message? The only thing missing was Holder's extended middle finger pointed towards Congress and Darryl Issa. Holder should be jailed for contempt. He is not simply disagreeing with Congress. He is acting in defiance of the law.

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/was-the-house-right-to-hold-eric-holder-in-contempt/eric-holder-is-defying-the-law-by-resisting-subpoena

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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #478 on: March 05, 2019, 04:41:40 PM »
Supoena away. The precedent has been set, ignore them.

Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena

When someone receives a subpoena, they can either comply or challenge the subpoena on certain legal grounds or claim the documents are privileged. What they cannot do is ignore the subpoena and that is what Holder did. For months, Holder has ignored the subpoena. When Darryl Issa asked if the documents had been assembled within the Justice Department, Holder refused to answer. In short, he was thumbing his nose at the committee.
[Check out our editorial cartoons on President Obama.]
Contempt is what is called a remedial power. If you fail to comply with a subpoena, you can be jailed until you do comply. You can also be jailed for contempt as a separate offense. Not shockingly, the most corrupt administration since the Nixon administration quickly announced after the contempt vote that it would not prosecute Eric Holder for contempt.
The problem here is that the Obama Regime believes it is above the law. Eric Holder went off to Disney World the day the House voted on holding him in contempt.
Doesn't that send a message? The only thing missing was Holder's extended middle finger pointed towards Congress and Darryl Issa. Holder should be jailed for contempt. He is not simply disagreeing with Congress. He is acting in defiance of the law.

https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/was-the-house-right-to-hold-eric-holder-in-contempt/eric-holder-is-defying-the-law-by-resisting-subpoena

LOL:   Judson Phillips, Contributor Founder of Tea Party Nation 

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udson Phillips is a former controversial attorney who organized (and whose family profits from) the for-profit corporation Tea Party Nation, which organized the first national Tea Party convention in February 2010. Phillips was disbarred on August 24, 2018.[1] In the decade prior to this money-making enterprise, Phillips had filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 7 of the federal code and had no less than three liens against him (Phillips claims the liens are now paid off)

BTW:

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A federal judge has declined a House committee's bid to have Attorney General Eric Holder held in contempt of court — and perhaps even jailed — for failing to turn over documents related to the Justice Department' s response to Operation Fast and Furious.

However, in a ruling Monday, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson also denied Holder's request for an indefinite stay of her prior order that the attorney general must turn over any "non-privileged" documents the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee subpoenaed as part of an investigation into the botched gunrunning investigation. The judge previously ruled that Holder must give the panel any documents that are not both predecisional and deliberative in nature.

Jackson called the House contempt motion "entirely unnecessary" and said it was evident that she was considering the government's motion to lift her prior order. "Under those circumstances, the Court finds no basis to hold defendant in contempt," she wrote.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2014/10/judge-declines-to-hold-holder-in-contempt-196650



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Re: The Investigation
« Reply #479 on: March 06, 2019, 11:47:52 AM »
Well then:

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The top White House lawyer on Tuesday said the Trump administration will refuse to provide Congress with information about senior adviser Jared Kushner’s security clearance, slamming House Democrats for “overly intrusive document requests.”

White House Counsel Pat Cipollone said the administration would brief the House Oversight Committee about the White House’s process for granting security clearances, but he balked at the committee’s demand for information specific to Kushner, setting up a potential subpoena fight between the powerful House panel and the White House.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/05/jared-kushner-security-clearance-1204984

 

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