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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #300 on: November 03, 2021, 01:14:22 AM »
Hey MK that’s 232,000 pints of oil that infected our coastline.  Give it the respect it deserves.

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #301 on: November 12, 2021, 08:36:59 AM »
Well, like Build Back Boondogle they are going to get..dick. ;D ;D >:D

COP26 climate summit enters final hours as negotiators urged to take radical action

Multiple pledges have been made throughout the summit, including deals to phase out coal, cut methane emissions and end deforestation. But activists have accused government ministers and corporations of so-called greenwashing and claimed the agreements to come out of COP26 so far aren’t enough to address the climate emergency.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/12/cop26-live-updates-as-climate-summit-enters-final-day.html

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #302 on: November 12, 2021, 04:43:38 PM »
All I know is I don't recall a 95 degree day in November in Irvine.
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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #303 on: November 12, 2021, 04:55:47 PM »
All I know is I don't recall a 95 degree day in November in Irvine.

I think today was the hottest day of the year. I don't remember it being this hot in the summer this year.

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #304 on: November 12, 2021, 07:57:28 PM »
It’s awesome…perfect night for football!!

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #305 on: November 13, 2021, 03:23:06 PM »
November 1st, 1966 it was a maximum of 99 degrees in Irvine on that day due to the same Santa Ana Winds and high pressure we had this week.
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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #306 on: November 13, 2021, 10:15:17 PM »
Another big fat nothing burger…”we agree to try…to endeavor to…hope to…maybe someday…cut….something.”  Cue panic porn… ;D ;D >:D

'It's a good deal': John Kerry hails pact struck by nearly 200 nations at COP26 - but critics slam a last-minute compromise to 'phase down' rather than 'phase out' coal power that lets China and India off the hook 


ontentious compromise benefits major coal users such as China and India
Last minute change watered down vow to phase out coal power worldwide
China accounts for half of the world's coal consumption, and India 11%
Still, Biden's Climate Envoy John Kerry hailed it as 'a good deal for the world'
Climate activists were infuriated by the last-minute change in Glasgow Pact
India, backed by China and other coal-dependent nations, pushed for the tweak

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10197777/Rested-negotiators-hope-climate-talks-line.html

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #307 on: December 01, 2021, 08:49:03 AM »
WOLF!!!...

Sierra Nevada snowpack could largely vanish by 2040s as climate warms, scientists say

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/sierra-nevada-snowpack-could-largely-vanish-by-2040s-as-climate-warms-scie/

The End of Snow?
By Porter Fox
Feb. 7, 2014

The truth is, it is too late for all of that. Greening the ski industry is commendable, but it isn’t nearly enough. Nothing besides a national policy shift on how we create and consume energy will keep our mountains white in the winter — and slow global warming to a safe level.

This is no longer a scientific debate. It is scientific fact. The greatest fear of most climate scientists is continued complacency that leads to a series of natural climatic feedbacks — like the melting of the methane-rich permafrost of Arctic Canada.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-snow.html

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #308 on: December 13, 2021, 11:19:29 AM »
..of course it is....

Scientists studying microplastics in Antarctica discover that 89 per cent of samples analysed came from the paint on their OWN SHIP
University of Basel-led experts studied microplastics in the remote Weddell Sea

The team collected a total of 113 samples of water from the surface and beneath
They filtered out 770 microplastic particles, 47% of which was from marine paint
101 particles resembled fragments of the researchers' vessel, the RV Polarstern
Detailed analysis of these found that 89% had indeed come from the ship

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10303793/Microplastics-Experts-Antarctica-89-samples-analysed-came-SHIP.html

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #309 on: December 13, 2021, 11:24:37 AM »
Classical example of confirmation bias.

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #310 on: December 13, 2021, 06:07:36 PM »
November 1st, 1966 it was a maximum of 99 degrees in Irvine on that day due to the same Santa Ana Winds and high pressure we had this week.

So because it was hot 55 years ago, that means we should not be concerned about the climate?

Why does environment concerns skew political?

Is someone going to say there was a drought here thousands of years ago so we shouldn't be concerned about the drought now?
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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #311 on: December 13, 2021, 07:50:57 PM »
I was answering your original post - about how you don't recall that hot of a November. Yes, it has been that hot in November but as you noted some time ago.

Although not in the original reply - what should be considered here is if the number of consecutive days of heat is caused by man made climate change, or could it possibly be because Irvine has changed from predominantly agricultural fields in 1996 to predominantly oceans of asphalt and concrete?

The heat sink effect in OC is similar to that in Phoenix AZ and should be considered part of the overall warming caused by man. It's easier to mitigate the heat issue by undergrounding parking areas or covering freeways with solar panels, plus other measures not yet taken.
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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #312 on: December 13, 2021, 09:10:10 PM »
The heat sink effect in OC is similar to that in Phoenix AZ and should be considered part of the overall warming caused by man. It's easier to mitigate the heat issue by undergrounding parking areas or covering freeways with solar panels, plus other measures not yet taken.

Whoa, if you start poking around land use, you’re going to get a whole bunch of answers nobody likes.

And I do mean nobody as in both sides of the Climate change issue don’t like the land use answers.

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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #313 on: December 13, 2021, 10:21:41 PM »
Truth.

I drive a convertible. Whenever I have the top down and pass under a major bridge the temperature under that cement mass is 10-15+ degrees warmer than the ambient temperature - day or night. Those things absorb so much sun they act as heat storage again either day or night. Can't convince me that at least some of the general warming is being driven by infrastructure retaining all that energy. It's a part of the issue, but not all of it.
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Re: Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
« Reply #314 on: December 14, 2021, 08:52:05 AM »
I was answering your original post - about how you don't recall that hot of a November. Yes, it has been that hot in November but as you noted some time ago.

Although not in the original reply - what should be considered here is if the number of consecutive days of heat is caused by man made climate change, or could it possibly be because Irvine has changed from predominantly agricultural fields in 1996 to predominantly oceans of asphalt and concrete?

The heat sink effect in OC is similar to that in Phoenix AZ and should be considered part of the overall warming caused by man. It's easier to mitigate the heat issue by undergrounding parking areas or covering freeways with solar panels, plus other measures not yet taken.

Thanks for the explanation.

I agree... greenhouse gases and urbanization are at the crux of global warming and while it's not disastrous as so-called predictions, it's a concern everyone should be worried about.

While I appreciate the move to EVs... there is still the worry about what battery manufacturing and disposal will do to the planet.

And I find it nice that many schools and buildings with huge parking lots are putting up solar panels. Instead of offshore drilling, we should be focusing on offshore hydropower (I admit to not knowing the cost or impact of this technology).

I trust that we will get there despite the political gaming...science finds a way... fossil fuels made it possible to get where we are now... and we will move beyond that... I just question why people say it's not an issue now.
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