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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2018, 06:17:22 PM »
That Genie is out of the bottle, and no amount of legal maneuvering will ever put it back. So if Roe is overturned, there's plenty of other case law to allow the procedure to be continued. It would take 4-5 years for any court case to wind its way through the system anyway and by then RBG and perhaps another justice will have shuffled off the bench.

Even in a worst case scenario for someone who supports Roe, if it's overturned and "sent back to the States"... does anyone really think Cali, New York, Florida, et al are going to ban it?

Calm your tits everyone. This is not the apocalypse people think it is.

My .02c

Good point no one ever mentions. If Roe is overturned, that just means each states gets to regulate abortions not that abortions will be banned. If Roe gets overturned and some states don't allow it, there will be a big abortion tourism industry in California. MAX ROI for us!

Sound conservative logic.

Why not? Nevada heavily promotes their gambling, prostitution, full auto machine gun shooting, and open container street drinking to states where those things are illegal. Heck, we can even steal Nevada's slogan for our new California Abortion Tourism Bureau: "What Happens in California Stays in California!"

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2018, 08:56:17 PM »
Yes , conservatives telling everyone just to “calm down now , nothing to see here” were perfectly happy w McConnell throwing tantrums to block merick garland   . See now it’s our guy who is throwing the constitution under the bus but don’t you worry if we get an airtight majority for the next few decades :)

I could care less — let each side fight as dirty as they want to , we are heading that way anyways

But it is interesting to note that people clamoring for this scotus will be able to escape the worst effects of its decisions by living a privileged life in a liberal state — can’t beat that now , can you . Have your cake and eat it too !

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2018, 07:49:36 AM »
Yes , conservatives telling everyone just to “calm down now , nothing to see here” were perfectly happy w McConnell throwing tantrums to block merick garland   . See now it’s our guy who is throwing the constitution under the bus but don’t you worry if we get an airtight majority for the next few decades :)

I could care less — let each side fight as dirty as they want to , we are heading that way anyways

But it is interesting to note that people clamoring for this scotus will be able to escape the worst effects of its decisions by living a privileged life in a liberal state — can’t beat that now , can you . Have your cake and eat it too !

I am always amazed at the fact that Conservatives think that the Federal government is oppressive but the state government is not.  State governments are far more likely to be corrupt and inept.

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2018, 08:00:22 AM »
Yes , conservatives telling everyone just to “calm down now , nothing to see here” were perfectly happy w McConnell throwing tantrums to block merick garland   . See now it’s our guy who is throwing the constitution under the bus but don’t you worry if we get an airtight majority for the next few decades :)

I could care less — let each side fight as dirty as they want to , we are heading that way anyways

But it is interesting to note that people clamoring for this scotus will be able to escape the worst effects of its decisions by living a privileged life in a liberal state — can’t beat that now , can you . Have your cake and eat it too !

I am always amazed at the fact that Conservatives think that the Federal government is oppressive but the state government is not.  State governments are far more likely to be corrupt and inept.

the hypocrisy is amazing (I hope I spelled that word right)

but even liberals have to admit, with his stellar education and experience, there is no one more qualified than kavanaugh to make a teen mom carry a pregnancy against her will ...

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2018, 11:33:17 AM »
More made up, mythical public outrage..it doesn't work anymore.

Mystery as IDENTICAL letters appear in 21 newspapers across 12 states slamming Trump's Supreme Court pick – and they're all signed by different people

At least 21 U.S. newspapers ran identical letters to the editor opposing President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this week
Each letter was published with the name of a different 'signer,' claiming Kavanaugh threatens 'everything that we hold dear as a nation'
Technique is known as 'astroturfing'; it's unclear who's behind it
One editor says the woman who appeared to have emailed him the letter now denies ever sending it
Three prominent liberal advocacy groups that oppose Kavanaugh's nomination have all denied involvement in the campaign.
The White House is shrugging off the technique, whose history includes similar campaigns from the Republican Party and the liberal MoveOn.org

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5955289/Newspapers-run-IDENTICAL-letters-slamming-Trumps-Supreme-Court-pick.html

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2018, 11:59:32 AM »
More made up, mythical public outrage..it doesn't work anymore.

Mystery as IDENTICAL letters appear in 21 newspapers across 12 states slamming Trump's Supreme Court pick – and they're all signed by different people

At least 21 U.S. newspapers ran identical letters to the editor opposing President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this week
Each letter was published with the name of a different 'signer,' claiming Kavanaugh threatens 'everything that we hold dear as a nation'
Technique is known as 'astroturfing'; it's unclear who's behind it
One editor says the woman who appeared to have emailed him the letter now denies ever sending it
Three prominent liberal advocacy groups that oppose Kavanaugh's nomination have all denied involvement in the campaign.
The White House is shrugging off the technique, whose history includes similar campaigns from the Republican Party and the liberal MoveOn.org

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5955289/Newspapers-run-IDENTICAL-letters-slamming-Trumps-Supreme-Court-pick.html

this image says all you need to know about newspapers.  btw, newspapers should report the news, not attempt to influence it.


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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2018, 09:08:17 AM »
Law School Students Just Saw A Radical Shift In The Pathway To Success
Conservatism has long offered the path of least resistance for law students. That may be changing.

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/07/law-school-students-just-saw-a-radical-shift-in-the-pathway-to-success/

A number of law students, and perhaps more importantly, a number of pre-law students, just witnessed a major event that could drastically alter the course of their careers, and many aren’t savvy enough to have noticed it.

For decades, the most powerful affirmative action program in America has been the one aimed at identifying and promoting young conservatives in the law. With conservatives increasingly outnumbered in educated circles, the ranks of prestigious federal clerkships, legislative internships, and plum government lawyer jobs have to be filled from an ever-shrinking pool. Because despite the numbers shifting away from conservatives long ago, the number of legislative positions and judicial clerkships that they need to fill keeps going up. This path was never going to appeal to everyone, but if you were the sort of student who liked to play the numbers, joining up with the conservatives was always the right play for your career.

It’s how you get Regent Law grads in senior Justice Department jobs.

Long ago, a proper conservative could enter this track merely sporting their “Robert Bork was Robbed” button everywhere. But for the last two decades, earning one’s way into this professional express lane has increasingly required students be both contrarian and confrontational on college and law school campuses to publicly demonstrate the depth of their commitment. Embracing the fact that no one likes them as a badge of their “victimhood” while inviting race-baiting provocateurs to campus, pranking Take Back The Night marches, and, yes, writing op-eds mocking minority groups were just the first steps on the right-wing cursus honorum. The next crop of conservative judicial nominees is inviting Milo Yiannopoulos and Ben Shapiro to campus as we speak.

This is what makes the withdrawal of Ryan Bounds such a profound moment for law students. The 45-year-old nominee for the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals had done everything right. He’d served in the Justice Department and he’d held a prestigious clerkship. But in all of these jobs he carried his right-wing credentials with him, forged in part by his willingness to write those contrarian and confrontational op-eds as an undergraduate unleashing a litany of racially and sexually insensitive remarks.

Bounds apologized for his statements at his Senate hearing and pointed to diversity efforts he’d made throughout his professional life as evidence that he was no longer defined by his college essays mocking racial minorities for laughs. David Lat says Ryan Bounds is not a racist. That could be true. People do, mercifully, mature. But these essays Bounds wrote were definitely racist and it’s cynical, bone-headed, or both to argue otherwise.

Yet, tellingly, his right-wing supporters never fully endorsed his approach of confronting his past. Even Lat’s take on this tried to write off phrases like “feel-good ethnic hoedowns” as not even racist in the first place, which takes some wild gymnastics. Ed Whelan of the National Review took to social media to minimize the extent of Bounds’s college statements, ignoring most of the record to defend only the statements where Bounds listed slurs used within oppressed communities for each other — proving he can’t be as racist as the black people… apparently? Ilya Shaprio of the CATO Institute tweeted of the Bounds apology that “[t]here was nothing to apologize for but he had to do that because that’s the way the game is played.” It seems as though Shapiro felt the nominee was lying to the Senate, which would open a whole other can of worms.

But it’s worth noting that the withdrawal of the Ryan Bounds nomination stings conservatives more than an ordinary speedbump on their path to judicial dominance. After all, the White House will move on to the next young conservative to fill the seat. What really has conservatives worked up is the fact that the Bounds nomination was derailed by a plethora of racially and sexually inappropriate statements. Their protestations over the “injustice” of judging a nominee by his college days are so fierce because they know everyone else on their judicial wish list has a similar paper trail of offensive college works waiting to be discovered.

This, to borrow a phrase, is the way the game is played. Conservatives have spent decades encouraging and rewarding college and law students for the very trollish antics that landed Bounds in hot water. Then, as years go by, these young firebrands soften their public image. The childish hijinks to “own the libs” that earned them acclaim from their right-wing patrons as kids transition into disproportionately harsh sentencing recommendations and academic articles about the folly of the Fourteenth Amendment. They become pillars of the local legal community and bide their time until the day they get the call to serve as a federal judge. By the time the Senate confirmation hearing rolls around, they want George Will on the streets and Rush Limbaugh in the sheets.

The key to this whole system was the willingness of polite society to ignore the coarseness of youth. To sign on to the myth that what nominees wrote back then shouldn’t matter — even if what they wrote back then played an outsized influence on their professional career. Even if what they wrote back then could be the only unfiltered insight into the nominee’s brain after decades of professional nurturing from people who think faking apologies is acceptable Senate testimony.

Someone was finally held accountable for the playing the enfant terrible that the right-wing adored for years. The well-worn path looks less primrose today.

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2018, 08:53:33 AM »
Apparently there are other allegation(s). You can’t make this up. (I don’t know if it’s true or not)

In my opinion: It’s like hiring a person, sometime it doesn’t work out. The interview goes well, but when you comes to the final stages (such a background check or final approval). Either there are discrepancies in the info provided, or salary discussion (the candidate has other offers), etc..
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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2018, 10:37:57 AM »
Apparently there are other allegation(s). You can’t make this up. (I don’t know if it’s true or not)

In my opinion: It’s like hiring a person, sometime it doesn’t work out. The interview goes well, but when you comes to the final stages (such a background check or final approval). Either there are discrepancies in the info provided, or salary discussion (the candidate has other offers), etc..

i think you can make it up and when nobody corroborates your story it starts to sound like you are.  democrats new 2018 slogan: when in doubt, claim sexual assault

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2018, 11:07:42 AM »
More made up, mythical public outrage..it doesn't work anymore.

Mystery as IDENTICAL letters appear in 21 newspapers across 12 states slamming Trump's Supreme Court pick – and they're all signed by different people

At least 21 U.S. newspapers ran identical letters to the editor opposing President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this week
Each letter was published with the name of a different 'signer,' claiming Kavanaugh threatens 'everything that we hold dear as a nation'
Technique is known as 'astroturfing'; it's unclear who's behind it
One editor says the woman who appeared to have emailed him the letter now denies ever sending it
Three prominent liberal advocacy groups that oppose Kavanaugh's nomination have all denied involvement in the campaign.
The White House is shrugging off the technique, whose history includes similar campaigns from the Republican Party and the liberal MoveOn.org

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5955289/Newspapers-run-IDENTICAL-letters-slamming-Trumps-Supreme-Court-pick.html

This is eerie when you think about the amount of influence the media has on the way people think or what they believe in.


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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2018, 06:59:32 PM »
Prediction (medium confidence):

 Fox News’ number one fan will be disappointed by the interview for being "weak" not "tough."

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2018, 07:24:27 PM »
Prediction (medium confidence):

 Fox News’ number one fan will be disappointed by the interview for being "weak" not "tough."

Breaking News:

“Third Kavanaugh accuser, a former US Mint employee, '100 percent credible,' Avenatti says.
A third woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct will come forward in the next 48 hours, according to Michael Avenatt.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-avenatti-third-accuser-emerge-48-hours/1416699002/

Bring your headsets to work tomorrow and tune into msnbc on the internet for free.  ;)


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« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2018, 10:07:12 PM »
What type of high school student maintains a calendar detailing the underage drinking parties they attended

It’s almost like kavanuagh knew some things from his ugly past were bound to come up and was prepared w 65 women witnessses to character at the ready

So unlike Romney , this dude actually does have a “binder full of women”  :)

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« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2018, 05:23:17 AM »
Prediction (medium confidence):

 Fox News’ number one fan will be disappointed by the interview for being "weak" not "tough."

Breaking News:

“Third Kavanaugh accuser, a former US Mint employee, '100 percent credible,' Avenatti says.
A third woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct will come forward in the next 48 hours, according to Michael Avenatt.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-avenatti-third-accuser-emerge-48-hours/1416699002/

Bring your headsets to work tomorrow and tune into msnbc on the internet for free.  ;)

rich, coming from porno lawyer whose latest tweet thinks kavanaugh is a sexual deviant.  the guy was a virgin for most of his young life - this definitely sounds like something a virgin would do!

@MichaelAvenatti

Sep 23
Brett Kavanaugh must also be asked about this entry in his yearbook: "FFFFFFFourth of July." We believe that this stands for: Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them. As well as the term "Devil's Triangle." Perhaps Sen. Grassley can ask him. #Basta

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2018, 05:28:01 AM »
What type of high school student maintains a calendar detailing the underage drinking parties they attended

It’s almost like kavanuagh knew some things from his ugly past were bound to come up and was prepared w 65 women witnessses to character at the ready

So unlike Romney , this dude actually does have a “binder full of women”  :)

way to attack a kid for keeping a calendar in his youth.  and congratulations to the dems, whose latest smear campaign is against a literal nerd virgin who loves baseball, but probably never made it past second base until he was almost 30.  complete backfire!

 

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