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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2017, 11:40:57 AM »
I would never ever ever ever in my life get a place with a flat roof, no matter what anyone tells me about how they have changed.

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2017, 12:10:35 PM »
If your on a budget use brita.  ;)


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I do think the water softner system is important and worth investing in. A good friend in Turtle Ridge (their house was built in 2002 I believe) did not get a water softner system. The hard water build up caused multiple pipe leaks and it cost them $20k to fix that problem, not including the fixing of the water damage that resulted which was additional $$$ on top of that. After they got a new piping system they joined the Kinetico club. Just something to think about if you will be staying in your home long term.
I don't think hard water is going to cause leaks in houses. Presume the leak was caused by other things.  If builders built homes in which the piping couldn't handle SoCal's hard water, then they should be sued for building faulty homes. I don't think that is the case. I do know there has been a number of slab leak issues on newer builds (especially in south orange county)...some people believe that it is due to certain minerals used by the water company. Not certain whether that same issue has existed in Irvine (lots of slab leaks).

New builds in coto had gotten crushed by these leaks and last I saw there was a lawsuit on the water district in the area regarding the problems.

Chloramine is the problem - not minerals. It's added to the water supply to make it potable. There's some weak science linking copper pipe failure to presence of chloramine in the water supply. Some say it is used because it is cheaper than chlorine by itself; others claim that it is required to reduce the carcinogenic byproducts of water disinfection. In any case, if this is what you are worried about you need to filter the water coming into your house (not just soften it).   



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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2017, 12:17:44 PM »
No. Soon as I saw the first homes with flat roofs my mom's chronic issue with her roof came to mind. Lots of the homeowners in her neighborhood had a pitched roof installed to remedy the problem. My mom kept repairing the roof which I'm sure cost her more in the long run than getting a pitched roof installed (not cheap. The framing is different for a pitched roof).


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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2017, 12:47:37 PM »
If your on a budget use brita.  ;)


https://www.brita.com

I do think the water softner system is important and worth investing in. A good friend in Turtle Ridge (their house was built in 2002 I believe) did not get a water softner system. The hard water build up caused multiple pipe leaks and it cost them $20k to fix that problem, not including the fixing of the water damage that resulted which was additional $$$ on top of that. After they got a new piping system they joined the Kinetico club. Just something to think about if you will be staying in your home long term.
I don't think hard water is going to cause leaks in houses. Presume the leak was caused by other things.  If builders built homes in which the piping couldn't handle SoCal's hard water, then they should be sued for building faulty homes. I don't think that is the case. I do know there has been a number of slab leak issues on newer builds (especially in south orange county)...some people believe that it is due to certain minerals used by the water company. Not certain whether that same issue has existed in Irvine (lots of slab leaks).

New builds in coto had gotten crushed by these leaks and last I saw there was a lawsuit on the water district in the area regarding the problems.

Chloramine is the problem - not minerals. It's added to the water supply to make it potable. There's some weak science linking copper pipe failure to presence of chloramine in the water supply. Some say it is used because it is cheaper than chlorine by itself; others claim that it is required to reduce the carcinogenic byproducts of water disinfection. In any case, if this is what you are worried about you need to filter the water coming into your house (not just soften it).
Yep...that was the stuff. 

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2017, 01:00:58 PM »
No. Soon as I saw the first homes with flat roofs my mom's chronic issue with her roof came to mind. Lots of the homeowners in her neighborhood had a pitched roof installed to remedy the problem. My mom kept repairing the roof which I'm sure cost her more in the long run than getting a pitched roof installed (not cheap. The framing is different for a pitched roof).

Didn't think about that.. wonder if these roofs (at parasol park) are completely flat or what is their fix so water doesn't collect?

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2017, 01:25:09 PM »
No. Soon as I saw the first homes with flat roofs my mom's chronic issue with her roof came to mind. Lots of the homeowners in her neighborhood had a pitched roof installed to remedy the problem. My mom kept repairing the roof which I'm sure cost her more in the long run than getting a pitched roof installed (not cheap. The framing is different for a pitched roof).

Didn't think about that.. wonder if these roofs (at parasol park) are completely flat or what is their fix so water doesn't collect?
There's no way it's completely flat. It grade towards a drain.
If they're completely flat, never buy from that builder!

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2017, 01:27:48 PM »
No. Soon as I saw the first homes with flat roofs my mom's chronic issue with her roof came to mind. Lots of the homeowners in her neighborhood had a pitched roof installed to remedy the problem. My mom kept repairing the roof which I'm sure cost her more in the long run than getting a pitched roof installed (not cheap. The framing is different for a pitched roof).

Didn't think about that.. wonder if these roofs (at parasol park) are completely flat or what is their fix so water doesn't collect?
There's no way it's completely flat. It grade towards a drain.
If they're completely flat, never buy from that builder!

I believe a traditional triangle shaped roof will last longer than a flat or flat with a slant roof.

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 06:16:26 PM »
Many of the systems that get rid of Chloramine are the higher end systems.   We all have that under the table guy that can install a water softener for around 2k but those systems don't have carbon or a filtration system that gets rid of Chloramine.

Most systems that do that are around $3k plus.   Nuvia, Kleck, SoCal Water, etc.    Plus if you want the tanks looking decent in the garage, they have a full stainless tank, stainless like sleeve or simple fiberglass.

If your on a budget use brita.  ;)


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I do think the water softner system is important and worth investing in. A good friend in Turtle Ridge (their house was built in 2002 I believe) did not get a water softner system. The hard water build up caused multiple pipe leaks and it cost them $20k to fix that problem, not including the fixing of the water damage that resulted which was additional $$$ on top of that. After they got a new piping system they joined the Kinetico club. Just something to think about if you will be staying in your home long term.
I don't think hard water is going to cause leaks in houses. Presume the leak was caused by other things.  If builders built homes in which the piping couldn't handle SoCal's hard water, then they should be sued for building faulty homes. I don't think that is the case. I do know there has been a number of slab leak issues on newer builds (especially in south orange county)...some people believe that it is due to certain minerals used by the water company. Not certain whether that same issue has existed in Irvine (lots of slab leaks).

New builds in coto had gotten crushed by these leaks and last I saw there was a lawsuit on the water district in the area regarding the problems.

Chloramine is the problem - not minerals. It's added to the water supply to make it potable. There's some weak science linking copper pipe failure to presence of chloramine in the water supply. Some say it is used because it is cheaper than chlorine by itself; others claim that it is required to reduce the carcinogenic byproducts of water disinfection. In any case, if this is what you are worried about you need to filter the water coming into your house (not just soften it).

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2017, 12:40:55 PM »
What water hardness level do you TIers set on your softener?  I have mine currently on 15.

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2017, 01:21:57 PM »
Many of the systems that get rid of Chloramine are the higher end systems.   We all have that under the table guy that can install a water softener for around 2k but those systems don't have carbon or a filtration system that gets rid of Chloramine.

Most systems that do that are around $3k plus.   Nuvia, Kleck, SoCal Water, etc.    Plus if you want the tanks looking decent in the garage, they have a full stainless tank, stainless like sleeve or simple fiberglass.

If your on a budget use brita.  ;)


https://www.brita.com

I do think the water softner system is important and worth investing in. A good friend in Turtle Ridge (their house was built in 2002 I believe) did not get a water softner system. The hard water build up caused multiple pipe leaks and it cost them $20k to fix that problem, not including the fixing of the water damage that resulted which was additional $$$ on top of that. After they got a new piping system they joined the Kinetico club. Just something to think about if you will be staying in your home long term.
I don't think hard water is going to cause leaks in houses. Presume the leak was caused by other things.  If builders built homes in which the piping couldn't handle SoCal's hard water, then they should be sued for building faulty homes. I don't think that is the case. I do know there has been a number of slab leak issues on newer builds (especially in south orange county)...some people believe that it is due to certain minerals used by the water company. Not certain whether that same issue has existed in Irvine (lots of slab leaks).

New builds in coto had gotten crushed by these leaks and last I saw there was a lawsuit on the water district in the area regarding the problems.

Chloramine is the problem - not minerals. It's added to the water supply to make it potable. There's some weak science linking copper pipe failure to presence of chloramine in the water supply. Some say it is used because it is cheaper than chlorine by itself; others claim that it is required to reduce the carcinogenic byproducts of water disinfection. In any case, if this is what you are worried about you need to filter the water coming into your house (not just soften it).

I got an Aquasana system for way less than $3k ....

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2017, 11:37:36 AM »
After tons of reserach, how their systems work and various water softener people coming over, I ended up going with the Puronics system with a great installer.  I basically got a top of the line unit for $2,900 that has carbon as well to get rid of chloramines and has a salt/potassium tank.   All Stainless Steel system vs a Fiberglass or Stainless Steel sleeve tank.    The water is absolutely amazing and I definitely can tell a big difference.

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2021, 11:52:58 AM »
Reviving this thread…

Any families come across quality suggestions for under the counter tankless reverse osmosis systems? The EWG Guidelines have been on our mind lately and we would welcome any quality suggestions.

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2021, 02:07:14 PM »
I have the Brondell Circle from Costco. I like it.

Reviving this thread…

Any families come across quality suggestions for under the counter tankless reverse osmosis systems? The EWG Guidelines have been on our mind lately and we would welcome any quality suggestions.

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Re: Anyone have any suggestions for a water softener and reverse osmosis?
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2021, 02:45:08 PM »
Reviving this thread…

Any families come across quality suggestions for under the counter tankless reverse osmosis systems? The EWG Guidelines have been on our mind lately and we would welcome any quality suggestions.

I recently had these guys install an RO under my sink for $350 (plus $80 for the line to the refrigerator):
https://www.yelp.com/biz/crystal-clear-water-systems-garden-grove-4
https://www.ccwatersystems.com/

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Irvine Pacific is currently using Falsken Water System products for whole house water conditioner, water softener, and undersink RO system.

https://falskenwatersystems.com/

Anyone have experience with them?

 

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