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Re: President Trump
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2016, 10:25:02 AM »
They'd like it to be...

“We are encouraged that President-elect Trump and the new Congress will pursue policies that will improve U.S. competitiveness and make it possible to keep production of this vehicle here in the U.S.,” the automaker said in an e-mailed statement.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-18/trump-says-ford-called-to-say-keeping-lincoln-plant-in-kentucky

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2016, 10:32:01 AM »
And now the impossible comes into focus...

Apple could make iPhones in US in future: sources

TAIPEI -- iPhones might one day soon carry "Made in America" labels.

Key Apple assembler Hon Hai Precision Industry, also known as Foxconn Technology Group, has been studying the possibility of moving iPhone production to the U.S., sources told the Nikkei Asian Review.

"Apple asked both Foxconn and Pegatron, the two iPhone assemblers, in June to look into making iPhones in the U.S.," a source said. "Foxconn complied, while Pegatron declined to formulate such a plan due to cost concerns."

http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/AC/Apple-could-make-iPhones-in-US-in-future-sources

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2016, 10:35:40 AM »
They'd like it to be...

“We are encouraged that President-elect Trump and the new Congress will pursue policies that will improve U.S. competitiveness and make it possible to keep production of this vehicle here in the U.S.,” the automaker said in an e-mailed statement.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-18/trump-says-ford-called-to-say-keeping-lincoln-plant-in-kentucky

But that is far from the claim that "they rescinded closure of a plant because Trump told him to". They were going to start building Escapes (higher demand vehicle) at the Kentucky plant but decided to stick with the Lincoln model instead. That plant was not going to close - at least not in the near future.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2016, 10:45:21 AM »
Further from the claim that its "totally made up". This is a complete pivot in attitude that will influence strategic planning for years.  This is the coming reality...and it looks great!

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2016, 10:46:36 AM »
You start to wonder this could be a very positive time in politics for America with a successful businessman in helm and all 3 branches of government are unified.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2016, 11:20:26 AM »
Further from the claim that its "totally made up". This is a complete pivot in attitude that will influence strategic planning for years.  This is the coming reality...and it looks great!

You are right, it's not "totally" made up. There's a tiny kernel of truth in there that is used to support a (larger) false claim.


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Re: President Trump
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2016, 11:26:55 AM »
So why on earth would Mr. Ford himself call Donald Trump to tell him? Just to kiss his ass?  I doubt it, you think that call would have happened to Hillary?  I think not.  The bigger point here is the clear change in attitude and planning on the strategic corporate level.  A Hillary presidency would have been business as usual and continued decline.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2016, 11:33:57 AM »
So why on earth would Mr. Ford himself call Donald Trump to tell him? Just to kiss his ass?  I doubt it, you think that call would have happened to Hillary?  I think not.  The bigger point here is the clear change in attitude and planning on the strategic corporate level.  A Hillary presidency would have been business as usual and continued decline.

They are still moving ahead and shifting production of the Focus from Michigan to Mexico. So why didn't this change???


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Re: President Trump
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2016, 11:42:36 AM »
How much you wanna bet the crossover production was slated to move out of country but now stays here?  As I said the strategic planning is now being influenced by the new reality.  This is only one example and one board room.  More where that came from,  and thats good...no great.

The auto maker confirmed in a statement that production of the Lincoln MKC crossover will remain at its assembly plant in Louisville, Ky. Ford had initially planned to move output of the Lincoln model to another plant to boost production of the Escape, which is built at the same factory. The company didn’t say where it had planned to move production of the Lincoln crossover.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-tweets-ford-has-committed-to-keeping-lincoln-production-in-u-s-1479439033

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2016, 11:50:53 AM »

Totally made up story.'

"Ford, however, said it neither planned to close the Louisville, Ky., plant nor reduce jobs there".

Ok. Let's deconstruct his Tweet then, shall we?

-Trump's claim that "he just got a call"  TRUE
-Trump's claim that Bill Ford is his "friend"  FALSE
-Trump's claim that Bill Ford is chairman of Ford  TRUE
-Trump's claim that Bill Ford advised him of something  TRUE
-Trump's claim that the Lincoln plant is staying in Kentucky  TRUE
-Trump's claim that the Lincoln won't be produced in Mexico  TRUE

You're right.  Bill Ford and Trump are not friends, so that is a "totally made up story".  Props for pointing that out peppy!  :P

Seriously though.. What the statement from Ford seems to be hinting at is that Trump's plan to dramatically lower corporate taxes would make things competitive enough for Ford to allow them to keep more production in the USA.  You have to learn to read corporate speak and read between the lines.

"Today, we confirmed with the President-elect that our small Lincoln utility vehicle made at the Louisville Assembly Plant will stay in Kentucky.  We are encouraged that President-elect Trump and the new Congress will pursue policies that will improve U.S. competitiveness and make it possible to keep production of this vehicle here in the United States."

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2016, 12:02:09 PM »

Totally made up story.'

"Ford, however, said it neither planned to close the Louisville, Ky., plant nor reduce jobs there".

Ok. Let's deconstruct his Tweet then, shall we?

-Trump's claim that "he just got a call"  TRUE
-Trump's claim that Bill Ford is his "friend"  FALSE
-Trump's claim that Bill Ford is chairman of Ford  TRUE
-Trump's claim that Bill Ford advised him of something  TRUE
-Trump's claim that the Lincoln plant is staying in Kentucky  TRUE
-Trump's claim that the Lincoln won't be produced in Mexico  TRUE

You're right.  Bill Ford and Trump are not friends, so that is a "totally made up story".  Props for pointing that out peppy!  :P

Seriously though.. What the statement from Ford seems to be hinting at is that Trump's plan to dramatically lower corporate taxes would make things competitive enough for Ford to allow them to keep more production in the USA.  You have to learn to read corporate speak and read between the lines.

"Today, we confirmed with the President-elect that our small Lincoln utility vehicle made at the Louisville Assembly Plant will stay in Kentucky.  We are encouraged that President-elect Trump and the new Congress will pursue policies that will improve U.S. competitiveness and make it possible to keep production of this vehicle here in the United States."

You forgot the most important onse:

- Trump's claim that the plant was going to close FALSE
- Trump's claim that production of this plant was going to relocate to Mexico FALSE

In any case, on the policy side what worries me is the threat of an import tariff on goods made in Mexico (35%) and China (45%). It can make it more attractive to produce goods nationally, but also can easily set off a trade war between countries.


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Re: President Trump
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2016, 12:22:36 PM »
Peppy you seem to have a lot of inside knowledge of their conversation beyond what was in Trump's tweets.  Can you please explain why Bill Ford called Trump and made such an assurance?

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2016, 12:29:27 PM »
Peppy you seem to have a lot of inside knowledge of their conversation beyond what was in Trump's tweets.  Can you please explain why Bill Ford called Trump and made such an assurance?

It's called being skeptical.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2016, 01:27:11 AM »
They've met at least a few times.  In October, they met and Ford said the following about Trump:

"He was very thoughtful, asked good questions. He certainly knows the facts."

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Re: President Trump
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