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Re: God?
« Reply #420 on: August 28, 2019, 03:02:33 PM »
Why does Christian fast food (In-n-Out, Chick-fil-a, Carl's Jr., etc.) taste better than Liberal Godless fast food (McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.)?

Eye... or taste buds... of the beholder. :)

Didn't realize Carl's was Christian... what is Taco Bell? qwertaco wants to know. :)
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Re: God?
« Reply #421 on: August 28, 2019, 03:13:15 PM »
Why does Christian fast food (In-n-Out, Chick-fil-a, Carl's Jr., etc.) taste better than Liberal Godless fast food (McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.)?

Eye... or taste buds... of the beholder. :)

Didn't realize Carl's was Christian... what is Taco Bell? qwertaco wants to know. :)

Carl Karcher was a devout Catholic. In the 1980-90s, liberals organized a boycott of Carl's Jr. for Karcher's financial support of anti-abortion groups. I named Carl's Jr, Chick-fil-a, and In-n-Out because all three were subject to liberal boycotts for being pro-life, pro-marriage, and pro GOP, respectively.



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« Reply #422 on: August 28, 2019, 03:58:44 PM »

https://www.eater.com/2016/10/18/13279282/clinton-vs-trump-whos-collected-the-most-fast-food-funding

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« Reply #423 on: August 28, 2019, 04:40:38 PM »

https://www.eater.com/2016/10/18/13279282/clinton-vs-trump-whos-collected-the-most-fast-food-funding

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Wow, so McDonald's is a red chain, I stand corrected. But I was right about Starbucks though.

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« Reply #424 on: August 28, 2019, 04:48:29 PM »

https://www.eater.com/2016/10/18/13279282/clinton-vs-trump-whos-collected-the-most-fast-food-funding

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Wow, so McDonald's is a red chain, I stand corrected. But I was right about Starbucks though.

looks like i'm getting two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun tonight

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« Reply #425 on: August 28, 2019, 04:58:26 PM »
Told you guys, Big Mac beats them all. But I was surprised #1 (Big Mac) combo is now $10. It used to be around $6. Maybe it's been too long...

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« Reply #426 on: August 28, 2019, 05:05:20 PM »
Why does Christian fast food (In-n-Out, Chick-fil-a, Carl's Jr., etc.) taste better than Liberal Godless fast food (McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.)?

What about Halal Guys? You think they're Godless food also?


They are heretics.

Come on. It's just food. Enjoy good food without thinking too much of politics.

Looks like there is no fast food with kosher meats. I want some pastramis now.


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« Reply #427 on: October 16, 2019, 10:30:18 AM »
Any ideas why you guys think this is the case? South Korean men have the fourth highest suicide rate in the world and for South Korean Women, it is #1. It makes me sad to see these stats like this.

Some interesting information I discovered is that only 25-29% South Korean claim themselves to be Christians whereas Koreans living in the U.S. like myself, 71-75% claim to call themselves to be Christians. Lately, I've been brushing up in my Korean writing skills to share the bible and encourage the South Korean people. Whomever I am able to reach.

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« Reply #428 on: October 16, 2019, 10:37:18 AM »
I was surprised at the wide coverage of Sulli's suicide this week.

Up until recently the legal working week in S. Korea was 68 hours.

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« Reply #429 on: October 16, 2019, 10:43:18 AM »
Yeah, I read about Sulli's suicide. I didn't know who she was until i read the news. She was only 25 years old suffering from deep chronic depression. It is really sad.

Momopi, if you are ever interested in learning the Korean language. My Korean vocab memorization list is below.

하나님은 당신 그대로를 사랑하십니다.
God loves you just the way you are.

외로움 - Lonliness
스트레스 - Stress
슬픔 - Sadness
감정 - Emotion
치료 - Healing
비전 - Vision
목표 - Goal
성공 – Success
번영 – Properity
축복 – Blessing
은혜 – Grace
선물 - Gift
감동 – Emotion
풍부한 - Abundant –
미인 - Beauty
아름다움 – Beautiful
장점 - Excellence
지식 - Knowledge
지혜 - Wisdom
물질 - Wealth
믿음 - Faith
소망 - Hope
사랑 – Love
격려 - Encouragement
권면하며 – Exhort
위로 - Comfort
강하게 - Strengthen
우울증 – Depression
오해 – Misunderstanding
게으름 - Laziness
울 때 - to Cry
웃을 때 - to Laugh
슬퍼할 때 - to be Sad
춤 - Dance
꿈 - Dream
뚫고 - Penetrate
시간 - Time
말씀 - Word of God
기도 - Prayer
금식 - Fasting
찬양 - Praise and Worship
행복 - Happiness
감사 - Gratitude
남편 - Husband
아내 - Wife
결혼 - Marriage
이해 - Understanding
인내 – Patience
친절 - Kindness
기쁨 - Joy
평화 - Peace
은혜 - Grace
용서하다 – Forgive
질투 - Jealousy 
자랑 - Boast 
거만 - Arrogant
교만한 - Proud 
겸손한 - Humble
기뻐하다 - Rejoices 
진실 - Truth
명성 - Fame 
어려움 - Difficult Challenges
올바른 생각 - Positive Thoughts
걱정 - Worry
회개 - Repent
고백 - Confession



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Re: God?
« Reply #430 on: October 16, 2019, 11:09:22 AM »
I'm not too familiar with studies on suicide, but since this is posted in God thread, I think I can find some relation.

From the scripture, there are two big figures who committed suicide - King Saul and Judas Iscariot.

King Saul took a sword and fell dead before Philistines (Israel's enemy at the time) would come and kill/torture him. Judas Iscariot hung himself after feeling guilty about betraying Jesus. Although he hung himself, he actually died by falling to the ground/field/rock as described in Acts 1.

I believe both committed suicide because of their self guilt, but in the end it was really the faithlessness that led them so. Some say Saul died as a hero since he refused to be killed by the enemy, but if he truly had faith in God, he should have repented and surrendered by believing God would rescue. Same thing with Judas. The only difference between Judas and Peter is that Peter didn't kill himself for betraying Jesus. He was restored to be a stronger person by the resurrected Christ Himself and Judas missed that because he already ended his life by himself.

We're all like Saul and Judas. We might see them as villains, but we are much like them having lack of faith time to time even though we might call ourselves Christians. Suicide is a horrible act most might not dare to even think of committing, but faithless living is like a hopeless life that's no different than a life ended in suicide. Ever since Adam brought sin into this world, this world is full of corruption even if it might look like it's getting better (it's actually getting worse). The only way to survive is to keep asking Jesus Christ constantly to forgive and deliver us from our sinful natures, suicide being one of them. The Holy Spirit then will guide us to live faithful as promised by Jesus Himself.

May God give true hope and peace, Jesus Himself, to the family of the one who committed suicide in S. Korea.



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Re: God?
« Reply #431 on: October 16, 2019, 11:18:43 AM »
I'm not too familiar with studies on suicide, but since this is posted in God thread, I think I can find some relation.

From the scripture, there are two big figures who committed suicide - King Saul and Judas Iscariot.

King Saul took a sword and fell dead before Philistines (Israel's enemy at the time) would come and kill/torture him. Judas Iscariot hung himself after feeling guilty about betraying Jesus. Although he hung himself, he actually died by falling to the ground/field/rock as described in Acts 1.

I believe both committed suicide because of their self guilt, but in the end it was really the faithlessness that led them so. Some say Saul died as a hero since he refused to be killed by the enemy, but if he truly had faith in God, he should have repented and surrendered by believing God would rescue. Same thing with Judas. The only difference between Judas and Peter is that Peter didn't kill himself for betraying Jesus. He was restored to be a stronger person by the resurrected Christ Himself and Judas missed that because he already ended his life by himself.

We're all like Saul and Judas. We might see them as villains, but we are much like them having lack of faith time to time even though we might call ourselves Christians. Suicide is a horrible act most might not dare to even think of committing, but faithless living is like a hopeless life that's no different than a life ended in suicide. Ever since Adam brought sin into this world, this world is full of corruption even if it might look like it's getting better (it's actually getting worse). The only way to survive is to keep asking Jesus Christ constantly to forgive and deliver us from our sinful natures, suicide being one of them. The Holy Spirit then will guide us to live faithful as promised by Jesus Himself.

May God give true hope and peace, Jesus Himself, to the family of the one who committed suicide in S. Korea.

God sometimes enables  suicides. I believe God knew what Samson was planning on doing when God granted Samson's wish for his strength back one last time.

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« Reply #432 on: October 16, 2019, 11:35:21 AM »
I'm not too familiar with studies on suicide, but since this is posted in God thread, I think I can find some relation.

From the scripture, there are two big figures who committed suicide - King Saul and Judas Iscariot.

King Saul took a sword and fell dead before Philistines (Israel's enemy at the time) would come and kill/torture him. Judas Iscariot hung himself after feeling guilty about betraying Jesus. Although he hung himself, he actually died by falling to the ground/field/rock as described in Acts 1.

I believe both committed suicide because of their self guilt, but in the end it was really the faithlessness that led them so. Some say Saul died as a hero since he refused to be killed by the enemy, but if he truly had faith in God, he should have repented and surrendered by believing God would rescue. Same thing with Judas. The only difference between Judas and Peter is that Peter didn't kill himself for betraying Jesus. He was restored to be a stronger person by the resurrected Christ Himself and Judas missed that because he already ended his life by himself.

We're all like Saul and Judas. We might see them as villains, but we are much like them having lack of faith time to time even though we might call ourselves Christians. Suicide is a horrible act most might not dare to even think of committing, but faithless living is like a hopeless life that's no different than a life ended in suicide. Ever since Adam brought sin into this world, this world is full of corruption even if it might look like it's getting better (it's actually getting worse). The only way to survive is to keep asking Jesus Christ constantly to forgive and deliver us from our sinful natures, suicide being one of them. The Holy Spirit then will guide us to live faithful as promised by Jesus Himself.

May God give true hope and peace, Jesus Himself, to the family of the one who committed suicide in S. Korea.

God sometimes enables  suicides. I believe God knew what Samson was planning on doing when God granted Samson's wish for his strength back one last time.

I don't think Samson's last act was a suicide but a victory of Israel and God while everyone at the time thought it was the enemy's. Although God's Spirit already left Samson because Samson forfeited it by choosing a lustful woman in place of God, he truly repented and asked God to strengthen him again so that the victory would belong to God in the end. God, being a merciful who would not turn his face to the one who truly asks for forgiveness, granted his prayer and brought forth Israel a victory again. Samson was not afraid of losing his life to do so. But God knowing what Samson was planning is surely true since He knows everything.

There are some acts that look like a suicide in the Bible. Jesus's crucifixion also would surely look like one since He could get away from getting crucified by His own power, but He CHOSE to be killed. It was however an act of the greatest love to be put to death in place of all humanity. So that He would rise from the dead and conquer death completely for us.

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« Reply #433 on: October 16, 2019, 01:47:06 PM »
Yeah, I read about Sulli's suicide. I didn't know who she was until i read the news. She was only 25 years old suffering from deep chronic depression. It is really sad.

She was from the 2nd generation Kpop era.  YG had 2NE1, JYP had Miss A, and SM had f(x) with Sulli.  During this era the Korean entertainment industry debuted groups with Chinese speaking members to expand their market.  Miss A had Fei and Jia from China, f(x) had Victoria from China and Amber Liu (Taiwanese) from Los Angeles, & Exo had bunch of Chinese members.  They were frequently mentioned in Chinese language press in TW and Los Angeles at the time.  I liked the song "Electric Shock" by f(x), but was more of a fan of Sulli in the 2012 drama "To the beautiful you".  The drama, along with Sulli's last TV appearances in "Night of Hate Comments" are avail on Viki.com.

While religion and spirituality can help some people in need, it's not a substitute for psychiatric care.  Many conditions, including major depressive disorder, cannot be cured and require on-going treatment and monitoring.  I've known someone who suffered from psychosis (hallucinations/delusions), after joining a Church the subject of her hallucinations simply switched to Biblical figures/subjects.  Her parents sent her to Temples in Taiwan for exorcism without success.  By the time that she finally got professional help and was put on medication, she had already lost numerous jobs and was living alone on small monthly allowance provided by her parents in Taipei.

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« Reply #434 on: October 16, 2019, 02:44:06 PM »
While religion and spirituality can help some people in need, it's not a substitute for psychiatric care.  Many conditions, including major depressive disorder, cannot be cured and require on-going treatment and monitoring.  I've known someone who suffered from psychosis (hallucinations/delusions), after joining a Church the subject of her hallucinations simply switched to Biblical figures/subjects.  Her parents sent her to Temples in Taiwan for exorcism without success.  By the time that she finally got professional help and was put on medication, she had already lost numerous jobs and was living alone on small monthly allowance provided by her parents in Taipei.

Sadly, many churches are not really where Jesus would call a real "church." Of course I'm not in a position to judge anyone as God is the only One who knows everyone's heart, but I strongly believe church is where (or should be where) God's words are being taught and celebrated of Jesus' resurrection with a hope of His return as He promised. Many so-called-churches have turned into a business where they just want to attract more people to basically make more money. Ever wondered why those weird religions are making so much money? Fake church is nothing different. Promising that they can fix someone's diseases or saying they can cast out demons are some examples of shows they've put on to advertise themselves while who Jesus is not really being preached at all.

Jesus in the New Testament never really said Christians were to fix those problems. Christians are to preach the gospel which is simply proclaiming who Jesus is. Where do we get the information about Jesus? The Holy Bible is the only reliable place or source at the end of the day. The rest is really up to God. God surely can cure someone's diseases or do all kinds of miracles the medical or science can't explain (God also gave us those medicines for us to use if needed), but those are all secondary issues before God. God accepts just as who you are despite of your illnesses or issues. What's most important is your heart. Is your heart honest to accept that you are a sinner? Is your heart ready to have Jesus as your Savior? The only Helper? Is your heart a good soil? When this issue is not resolved in a first place, I think that's where all those depressions and even suicidal thoughts could be triggered deeply in someone's life. Of course God can heal those all in His perfect timing if one truly desires and asks. When and how are something we can't know. Anyone or church who says they know how and when is most likely a fake or false church. Stay away from such places.

Many people say Christians are just as bad and sometimes even worse. That is true. While Christians should live a life that is "different" than the rest of the world to set as good examples, we are all still sinners. The only difference of a REAL Christian is that he/she would recognize his/her sin and repent of that daily before God for the short coming. And to go even further they would transform day by day becoming more Christ-like by God's grace, many times very slowly but surely. So to judge Christianity based on a Christian "person" is not really a good idea. Only judging it yourself based on what the Bible says would be the right direction. Sadly, not that many people do so. They just finalize their opinion based on judging the person.


 

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