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Cali Drought
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:25:49 AM »
Forget jobs... what about the water?

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/09/dramatic-photos-of-californias-historic-drought/100804/

Check out before and after pics starting on slide 8.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 08:29:26 AM »
water problem in the water cooler section.  nice....

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 04:16:27 PM »
IHO,

I relabeled the photos for accuracy ;)

IHO taking a swim in the lake.


IHO stepping out of the lake.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 10:50:00 AM »
It's just water weight.
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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 12:26:32 PM »
IHO,

I relabeled the photos for accuracy ;)

IHO taking a swim in the lake.


IHO stepping out of the lake.



Ah, ok. I thought that was "Before ALS Icebucket Challenge" & "After".

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 10:24:43 AM »
I would suggest maintaining a stock of drinking water, just in case.  I keep about 60 gallons in bottled drinking water at home.  Costco sells the 6 x 1 gallon jugs for about $4, so 10 packs is $40-ish.  However the Costco at Technology Drive no longer carry the 6x1 gallon jugs, so you may have to look at other locations.

In addition, your water heater contains about 40-50 gallons, which can be used for washing, cleaning, or filtered for drinking.  Lifestraw personal water filter can be found for $20 at Big 5, and Amazon sells the "Lifestraw Family" water filter system for $75 with free shipping.

If we get hit by an earthquake that knocks out the pumps and damage water pipes, it may be weeks before the system is repaired.  That's actually the easy part.  The drought and our lack of water supply, on the other hand, has no simple or inexpensive solution.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2014, 12:27:26 PM »
Kiss Your Guacamole Good-Bye: Drought-Stricken California Farmers Stop Growing Avocados

If there's avocado shortage, there's always Orchard Hill. >:D

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When Chipotle warned investors back in March that it might suspend serving guacamole at its restaurants if avocado prices rose because of the California drought, climate change hit home for chip-and-dip lovers

It takes 74 gallons of water to produce one pound of avocados—and drought-stricken California produces 95 percent of the avocados grown in the United States

One-third of the state’s avocados are grown in San Diego County, which has some of the highest water prices in the state. In Valley Center, a town that is home to many family farms, avocado growers have seen water rates rise steeply in recent years—so much so that irrigating their groves has become more expensive than the price they get for selling their avocados.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2014, 12:59:02 PM »
70-80% of our water is used for agriculture. If agriculture was more efficient the US could produce enough food to feed the whole country twice over with 50% less water.

Water problems are easily solved. We just have to actually be motivated to do anything about it.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2014, 05:46:38 PM »

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2021, 08:15:36 AM »
...and just like that...practically overnight, this drought disappears too....ain't nature grand?... ;D ;D >:D

California’s snow drought ends thanks to two weeks of bad weather which saw an entire winter’s worth of snow blanket large swathes of the Golden State
'Atmospheric river' dumped several inches of rain and snow on drought-stricken California last week

Within seven-day span, the seasonal average snowpack in Sierra Nevada rose from 18 percent to 98 percent 
Snowpack is snow that lies on the ground in mountains and then melts when the weather gets warmer
The snowpack atop the Sierra Nevada mountain range makes up about 30 percent of California's water
The storm began last weekend in Northern California and brought heavy precipitation as far inland as Nevada
Palisades Tahoe ski resort reported more than 5 feet of snow over three days
More extreme weather is expected in the coming days, according to meteorologists
Coastal peaks north of San Francisco Bay could receive up to 8 inches of rain by Christmas morning

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10327567/Californias-snow-drought-ends-thanks-two-weeks-bad-weather.html


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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2021, 08:37:03 AM »
Well we are at 98% for season to date, which puts us at 24% for season.  It’s a sliding scale.  Typical alarmist stuff like the local weather screeching about being a 2% of normal when our normal is one weather system half as strong as what we had.

Here in SoCal that’s like three winter storms instead of four and we miss anywhere from none to half or more of our annual.

Either way, hoping for a 600 inch winter in Mammoth.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2021, 10:23:00 AM »
@morekaos:

Do you even read the entire article? Daily Mail and you are just like tabloids.

And it was referring to "snow drought"... not the drought in general.

Near the end of the article, it even says this:
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Jeffrey Mount, a senior fellow at the Public Policy Institute of California's Water Policy Center, said the storm won't be a drought-buster, but water watchers are excited about all of the snow it's dumping in the Sierra Nevada.

According to Drough Monitor, it is far from over:

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

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Out West, a weak-to-moderate atmospheric river made landfall in the Pacific Northwest on Saturday and moved southeastward bringing coastal and valley rains as well as heavy mountain snowfall accumulations across California and the Pacific Northwest. For the week, rainfall accumulations along the coastal areas from Washington to California ranged from 3 to 13+ inches with the highest accumulations observed in the coastal ranges of northwestern Oregon and along the Central Coast of California. In terms of snowfall during the multi-day storm event, total accumulations exceeded 6 feet in areas of the Central Sierra while areas in the southern Cascades received up to 3 feet. Further inland, areas of the Northern Rockies in Idaho and northwestern Wyoming, observed snowfall totals ranging from 12 to 20 inches. Despite the beneficial nature of this week’s storm event, significant precipitation deficits (ranging from 4 to 20+ inches) still exist across California and the state’s largest reservoirs are still at critically low levels, with Lake Shasta currently at 46% of the historical average (25% of capacity) and Lake Oroville at 62% of average (31% of capacity). In other areas of the West, basin-level SWE is well below normal, especially in New Mexico where median SWE ranged from 12% to 77% of normal as of Dec 14. On the map, some improvements were made in areas of Extreme Drought (D3) and Exceptional Drought (D4) in Montana, Oregon, and Utah as well as improvements in areas of Severe Drought (D2) and Moderate Drought (D1) in Idaho and Wyoming. According to NOAA NCEI, November 2021 was the 2nd warmest on record for the West and Southwest climate regions. Moreover, California and Wyoming both recorded their warmest average minimum temperatures on record for November while Nevada, Utah, and Colorado observed their 2nd warmest on record. In terms of precipitation, the Southwest Climate Region was notably dry having its 5th driest November on record.

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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2021, 01:02:27 PM »
We are many miles away from this being over. I can remember green hills full of new grass in October which starts only when there has been deep sustaining rain in September. There hasn't been that kind of rainfall in some time.

Yes, I know it's easy to say "Southern California is really a desert." when it comes to water issues. It's not. Southern California is overpopulated and water resources are either exhausted or at the lower end of sustainability. One only has to wonder why Fountain Valley is named as such. The LA OC rivers could provide enough water for agriculture many years before the California Aqueduct system arrived. Going back to 1910 population levels isn't possible, but most of the water issues we face here are primarily due to population growth, not global warming/climate change.

Although today it would be even more catastrophic than the previous one, something on the scale of the Great Flood of 1862 is needed to recharge ground water statewide.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862  It would be something else to see vast inland lakes up to 4 feet deep in areas. Hard to imagine, but always a possibility.
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Re: Cali Drought
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2021, 03:50:56 PM »
It's not just overpopulation. A large portion of our drinkable water is controlled by some rich farmers. Take a look at this documentary. It will make you think twice when you see those ads for pomegranate or pistachios.
Water & Power: A California Heist
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6290202/


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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2021, 04:19:16 PM »
Don't forget Nestle and the Saudi's. Both have huge water draws from all over California, only to re-sell it back to us in single use plastics....
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