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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1515 on: June 20, 2018, 09:48:21 AM »
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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1516 on: June 20, 2018, 09:52:00 AM »
Or were the no on B voters the cunning ones?  We love and respect all veterans but let’s punt this thing outta Irvine :)

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1517 on: June 20, 2018, 10:50:34 AM »
Agran and his PAC did a real disservice to veterans and their families. They derailed a reasonable compromise that had city backing and put serious doubt on a resting place at the former El Toro base. When are they going to put Larry in jail?

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1518 on: June 21, 2018, 06:59:41 AM »
Or were the no on B voters the cunning ones?  We love and respect all veterans but let’s punt this thing outta Irvine :)

I think overall Irvine does not want it here. The land values is too high for it. Proper planning is true to Irvine roots.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1519 on: July 11, 2018, 09:02:35 AM »

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1520 on: July 11, 2018, 10:45:20 AM »
Irvine council will study original veterans cemetery site further

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/11/irvine-council-will-study-original-veterans-cemetery-site-further/

"let's spend another couple million studying a site we already studied"

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1521 on: July 11, 2018, 06:27:43 PM »
Irvine council will study original veterans cemetery site further

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/11/irvine-council-will-study-original-veterans-cemetery-site-further/

"let's spend another couple million studying a site we already studied"

It's just another delaying tactic. Veterans won't get their cemetery at the GP.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1522 on: July 11, 2018, 08:24:39 PM »
Irvine council will study original veterans cemetery site further

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/11/irvine-council-will-study-original-veterans-cemetery-site-further/

"let's spend another couple million studying a site we already studied"

It's just another delaying tactic. Veterans won't get their cemetery at the GP.

Right, there are too much contentious for that piece of land. It will never happen. You will have IUSD, Lennar / 5P along with other builders join forces to support an alternate sites. There is ZERO chance of any memorial in Irvine.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1523 on: July 29, 2018, 03:20:19 PM »
I guess Christina Shea and Melissa Fox also proposing to reallocate some of the GP golf course for cemetery instead. Mmm that would leave a 70 acre 9-hole course?

https://melissafoxblog.com/2018/07/13/shea-fox-vet-cem-press-release/

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1524 on: July 29, 2018, 04:32:24 PM »
I have been a strong and consistent supporter of a veterans cemetery within the hallowed grounds of the former Marine Air Station El Toro, where so many brave men and women flew to Vietnam and other war zones, some never to come back.

The Great Park is an altogether fitting and proper location for this veterans cemetery, where it would also be a lasting memorial to the Great Park’s military heritage.

As we continue to seek a site for the Veterans Cemetery, it has occurred to us and others, as mentioned July 10th at our council meeting, that the area within the Great Park planned for a golf course offers several benefits as a potential location.

The golf course site has ample space, at about 195 acres; it is within the Great Park and in the heart of the former MCAS El Toro, honoring those who served there; it is not located adjacent to neighborhoods or schools, and it could provide multiple points of access for future visitation and processions. If up to 125 acres were to be dedicated to the Veterans Cemetery, 70 plus acres would still be available for a smaller golf-related use, other recreational uses and a potential for the expansion of the Organic Circle Farm, helping with annual revenues for the Great Park.

The golf course site wouldn’t require the 40 million dollars demolition and remediation costs that the ARDA site requires. The golf course site has also gone thru the CEQA process. Additionally, by creating a veteran’s cemetery in the heart of the Great Park, not outside the Great Park where the ARDA site is located, our Veterans would realize a true resting place inside the Great Park, where so many citizens have requested the cemetery to be developed.

See our proposal at https://melissafoxblog.com/2018/07/13/shea-fox-vet-cem-press-release/

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1525 on: July 29, 2018, 05:19:39 PM »
Welcome aboard Melissa. Nice to see your post. Hope there are more to come.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1526 on: July 31, 2018, 08:38:40 AM »
I have been a strong and consistent supporter of a veterans cemetery within the hallowed grounds of the former Marine Air Station El Toro, where so many brave men and women flew to Vietnam and other war zones, some never to come back.

The Great Park is an altogether fitting and proper location for this veterans cemetery, where it would also be a lasting memorial to the Great Park’s military heritage.

As we continue to seek a site for the Veterans Cemetery, it has occurred to us and others, as mentioned July 10th at our council meeting, that the area within the Great Park planned for a golf course offers several benefits as a potential location.

The golf course site has ample space, at about 195 acres; it is within the Great Park and in the heart of the former MCAS El Toro, honoring those who served there; it is not located adjacent to neighborhoods or schools, and it could provide multiple points of access for future visitation and processions. If up to 125 acres were to be dedicated to the Veterans Cemetery, 70 plus acres would still be available for a smaller golf-related use, other recreational uses and a potential for the expansion of the Organic Circle Farm, helping with annual revenues for the Great Park.

The golf course site wouldn’t require the 40 million dollars demolition and remediation costs that the ARDA site requires. The golf course site has also gone thru the CEQA process. Additionally, by creating a veteran’s cemetery in the heart of the Great Park, not outside the Great Park where the ARDA site is located, our Veterans would realize a true resting place inside the Great Park, where so many citizens have requested the cemetery to be developed.

See our proposal at https://melissafoxblog.com/2018/07/13/shea-fox-vet-cem-press-release/

Ex-30 year mayor and councilman pseudo-czar Larry Agran says in his CityWatch (August 2018 Fishwrapper, page 3): “Certainly, the Veterans Cemetery is more important than the $25 million golf course ….”
 
And we agree!
 
So …hey Ed Pope and you real Irvine veterans! Build a Veterans Cemetery actually on MCAS and IN the Great Park - where we other common Veterans wanted it in the first place! On the Golf Course of course, of course Mr. Ed!
 
What a super proposal, you can't possibly find any fault with that can you?
 
•   What traffic?
•   What land-grab-give-away?
•   What freeway noise?
•   What greedy developer profits?
•   Without all the grossly expensive problems of ARDA!

Sounds like a real winner to us!  What say you?

Oh Ed Pope? Speak up! If you actually really want a Veteran Cemetery, let's work together for this one.  The challenge is down. Let’s do our genuine Great Park Veterans Cemetery on the Golf Course and end all the acrimony in a heartbeat.
 
BUILD THE VETERANS CEMETERY IN THE GREAT PARK NOW!
 
But we all know that you don’t want a Veterans Cemetery at all, and are playing this fabricated crisis issue, group-bellowing "recall" as an Agranista political play riding Vets as pawns and bait. Sure seems that way as we smell the same ‘ol stink in the Fishwrapper.
 
Show us what you really are, a real Veteran or just Larry's token .... now is your time to be more than a retired schoolteacher, be a hero.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1527 on: November 23, 2018, 01:58:09 PM »
Irvine veterans cemetery plans moving forward, with Great Park golf course site under consideration

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/11/23/irvine-veterans-cemetery-plans-moving-forward-with-great-park-golf-course-site-under-consideration/

 

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