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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1575 on: July 14, 2021, 08:33:35 AM »
https://voiceofoc.org/2021/07/is-the-dream-of-an-irvine-veterans-cemetery-on-the-way-out-the-door/

Umberg bill tabled until 1/2022.

"Irvine has been debating whether or not to host a cemetery for longer than the United States’ involvement in both World Wars combined, a debate that to date has not led to any tangible results, except frustrated veterans and lawmakers alike."

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1576 on: July 20, 2021, 02:43:57 PM »
OC Board of Supervisors may chip in $20 million for veterans cemetery project in Anaheim

https://www.ocregister.com/2021/07/20/oc-board-of-supervisors-may-chip-in-20-million-for-veterans-cemetery-project-in-anaheim/

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1577 on: July 20, 2021, 05:21:36 PM »
They chipping in like its free money. (Like its candy)
How about fundraise the money from the private sector and maybe match it? (or maybe straight fundraise) Lease for potential retail stores. (Flower shop, memorabilia store) I dont know if thats a good idea or not. But thinking out of the box is key.


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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1578 on: July 20, 2021, 08:01:16 PM »
Maybe that money could be appropriated for ANY future veterans cemetery in Orange County. I just see the money allocation for candidates to use in support of their future campaigns.

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Irvine’s ultimate NIMBY fight: A cemetery for veterans deemed an undesirable blight

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-28/veterans-locals-spar-over-irvine-military-cemetery-plans

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1580 on: October 23, 2021, 05:36:10 PM »
Irvine’s tried for years to build a veterans cemetery, will it support a new location?

https://www.ocregister.com/2021/10/23/irvines-tried-for-years-to-build-a-veterans-cemetery-will-it-support-a-new-location/

After years of discussion and political battles that stalled progress, every city council in the county but one has passed a resolution backing construction of a veterans cemetery on a county-owned site in Anaheim Hills. Now in what is likely the most symbolic vote, the last council to decide on whether to offer its support will be Irvine, where three different cemetery sites have been proposed and two ballot measures failed to get shovels in the ground.

Irvine officials will take up the issue Tuesday, at the request of council members Tammy Kim and Michael Carroll.

The key disagreement in Irvine has been whether to build on a property referred to as ARDA on the northern edge of the Great Park or somewhere else in the city. While the debate dragged on, Kim said, “houses were built and life continued and people started moving into the Great Park – and where we’re at today is a very bad situation for both the residents and veterans who want a quiet, serene resting place” that’s not in the middle of a neighborhood.

That wouldn’t be a problem at the location proposed in Anaheim Hills, which is in Gypsum Canyon next to the 91 freeway and has no immediate neighbors. It’s property that was once planned for homes, but instead was gifted to the county for open space by the Irvine Co. in 2014. County leaders later decided it was a good place for a much-needed public cemetery.

County staff are working with Anaheim to rezone the roughly 260 acres (half for veterans, half for civilians) for cemetery use and to complete the necessary environmental review. They’ll also need state legislation to formally designate the site as a veterans cemetery and request a study by the state veterans affairs department, known as CalVet, which would operate the cemetery once it’s built. “We just need to wait for the legislature to return to session and get the change that’s necessary” to push the veterans cemetery project along, said OC District 3 Supervisor Don Wagner, a former Irvine mayor. About $24 million in state funding has been set aside for a veterans cemetery, and the county has pledged $20 million, but more funding will be needed.

While a sizable coalition of local leaders, as well as veterans groups and OC state and federal legislators, has coalesced behind the Gypsum Canyon site, they’ll face an obstacle Tuesday: a group of Irvine residents and OC veterans who still believe the ARDA site is the best and only place for the cemetery. That view is shared by Irvine Councilman Larry Agran, who helped spearhead the two ballot measures intended to ensure ARDA would be the chosen location. “The efforts have only moved on to other sites because the prevailing council majority now has chosen to defy the will of the people and has refused to move forward with construction” at ARDA, Agran said Friday. Asked why so many council members from around the county voted in support of a different site, Agran said it’s because they weren’t given a choice. He also suggested the Anaheim Hills property is “unworkable” and “unaffordable,” in part because he believes it will be found to be geologically unstable and at risk of landslides.

County real estate staff said so far they’ve found no evidence of geologic concerns. Wagner said none of the local officials he spoke with asked about other site options and added, “it’s not exactly like the opportunity to put it in Irvine on the ARDA site is news to anybody.”

Nick Berardino, a Vietnam War veteran and head of a veterans group that’s been lobbying for an OC cemetery, said the support that’s already been marshaled – which he hopes Irvine will join – shows it’s a regional and not a city issue. “What it says is that the people of Orange County and their elected representatives are 100% behind veterans finally getting a respectful and dignified place to rest,” he said.

The Irvine City Council meets at 4 p.m. Tuesday, Oct. 26, at 1 City Center Plaza, Irvine. The meeting can be viewed on the city website.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery (NOT) coming to Irvine
« Reply #1581 on: October 27, 2021, 11:08:30 AM »
I already said this before, this isn't going to happen in Irvine.

Wasted time and money. The VET was used and abused by Larry Agran.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1582 on: October 27, 2021, 11:23:33 AM »
https://www.ocregister.com/2021/10/27/irvine-passes-baton-on-trying-to-build-veterans-cemetery-in-oc/

"On Tuesday night, a majority of the Irvine City Council voted to join the county’s other 33 cities in supporting a location in Gypsum Canyon, where county officials propose putting civilian and military cemeteries side by side.

The vote was 4 to 1, with the opposition coming from Councilman Larry Agran, a longtime champion of a proposed site on the northern edge of Irvine’s Great Park."

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1583 on: October 28, 2021, 06:08:28 AM »
As Irvine grows, it appears politics will slow any type of decision making…sad day.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1584 on: October 28, 2021, 09:33:45 AM »
Not neccessary, there are tons of developments going on right now in Irvine that will bring CASH and TAX to the city. This is what motivate policies maker. When the projections of projected tax revevues, generate you bet it get approval faster than lightning.

Residential properties, this is obvious. Then you have entertainments and advendtures parks. Next, shops and dinning. Business parks. All of these are happenning concurrently. So decisions is not slowing in term of developments that generate big bucks.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1585 on: October 28, 2021, 10:31:57 AM »
As Irvine grows, it appears politics will slow any type of decision making…sad day.

I'm not surprised by this outcome. Most of the Irvine politicians never wanted a cemetery. They knew if they could delay long enough, it would die. There was too much money and votes at stake.

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Re: Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine
« Reply #1586 on: October 29, 2021, 03:00:54 PM »
"YOU CAME FROM SOUTH KOREA!" says EUGENE KAPLAN of 'Build it Now'

On Tuesday, Irvine Vice-Mayor Tammy Kim was subjected to racism and xenophobia during a council meeting for a project to build a veterans cemetery in the city.

https://nextshark.com/tammy-kim-council-meeting-racism/

 

 

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