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Title: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on March 18, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
Anyone have any idea when the models will open for Cypress Village? The entrance off of Sand Canyon looks complete and I've seen allot more construction activity these past few days.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on March 18, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
Looks like these will be the first homes to be released. Is it me, or do these look like really squished together detached condos?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 18, 2013, 02:04:52 PM
I saw them too, but I didn't have enough time to try to run in really close.  There are 3 neighborhoods coming up, they're in another thread.  Go behind enemy lines and snap some pics!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 18, 2013, 02:12:26 PM
By the time these open... they will be $2million.

That's the problem with Irvine, when it drops, it's not as much but when it rebounds... it overshoots.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on March 18, 2013, 02:57:09 PM
More sheeple led to the slaughter.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: NYT on March 18, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
Between Trabuco and the 5, that used to be a nice stretch of Sand Canyon to drive down. Now they've added a light for Cypress Village, and with all those residents packed in, it'll definitely slow down that drive.  :(
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on March 18, 2013, 08:17:17 PM
Between Trabuco and the 5, that used to be a nice stretch of Sand Canyon to drive down. Now they've added a light for Cypress Village, and with all those residents packed in, it'll definitely slow down that drive.  :(

no joke...i catch almost every light on sand canyon now...feels like going doing jamboree now...but with less lanes
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on March 19, 2013, 09:26:13 AM
Looking at the picture, and how its a cluster of 4 homes, this must be the layout for this tract.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/23vewrb.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 19, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
California Garages for the win!!!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 19, 2013, 01:13:11 PM
I predict that after winning this variance, the California garage will go away in future devs.  Why?  Because they will just push the 20' garage to within 5' of the rear property line.  Add in the 5', 20', and however long the driveway is ~18' and you'll have ~43' between the back fence and the end of the driveway.  Not too shabby TIC, way to innovate. 

Imagine that with the 4.5' side setbacks?  They could go 15x20 on top of the garage too, assuming they can't build 2 stories 5' from the back fence.  10' instead. 

So they'd have 33' between the back door and the end of the driveway (which would be the property line) on the non-garage part of the structure. So for a 2-story box for this section, multiply by 66 to get the 2-story buildable right?

So on a lot of 43' by 59'  (2537 sqft), they'd have a possible house of 2,280 sqft...WITH a driveway! way to go!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 19, 2013, 02:01:20 PM
I predict that after winning this variance, the California garage will go away in future devs.  Why?  Because they will just push the 20' garage to within 5' of the rear property line.  Add in the 5', 20', and however long the driveway is ~18' and you'll have ~43' between the back fence and the end of the driveway.  Not too shabby TIC, way to innovate. 

Imagine that with the 4.5' side setbacks?  They could go 15x20 on top of the garage too, assuming they can't build 2 stories 5' from the back fence.  10' instead. 

So they'd have 33' between the back door and the end of the driveway (which would be the property line) on the non-garage part of the structure. So for a 2-story box for this section, multiply by 66 to get the 2-story buildable right?

So on a lot of 43' by 59'  (2537 sqft), they'd have a possible house of 2,280 sqft...WITH a driveway! way to go!

This is not even counting if they go to to your 24x14 3rd story bonus/inlaw quarters.  I think that could be done without it being exactly on any of the exterior boundaries...and give you another 350 or so sqft.  That would give them their ~1 buildable sqft per 1 sqft of land...WITH a driveway.  Maybe that's what they're doing?  Look how tall the roof is in the middle.  Anybody see any windows up there? :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on March 19, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
I predict that after winning this variance, the California garage will go away in future devs.  Why?  Because they will just push the 20' garage to within 5' of the rear property line.  Add in the 5', 20', and however long the driveway is ~18' and you'll have ~43' between the back fence and the end of the driveway.  Not too shabby TIC, way to innovate. 

Imagine that with the 4.5' side setbacks?  They could go 15x20 on top of the garage too, assuming they can't build 2 stories 5' from the back fence.  10' instead. 

So they'd have 33' between the back door and the end of the driveway (which would be the property line) on the non-garage part of the structure. So for a 2-story box for this section, multiply by 66 to get the 2-story buildable right?

So on a lot of 43' by 59'  (2537 sqft), they'd have a possible house of 2,280 sqft...WITH a driveway! way to go!

This is not even counting if they go to to your 24x14 3rd story bonus/inlaw quarters.  I think that could be done without it being exactly on any of the exterior boundaries...and give you another 350 or so sqft.  That would give them their ~1 buildable sqft per 1 sqft of land...WITH a driveway.  Maybe that's what they're doing?  Look how tall the roof is in the middle.  Anybody see any windows up there? :)
Of course they are doing that, they see how much extra of a premium are willing to pay to have a full driveway for their detached/attached condo.  I think I've seen the premium be $30k-$40k and those lots sold FAST.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 19, 2013, 02:33:20 PM
I predict that after winning this variance, the California garage will go away in future devs.  Why?  Because they will just push the 20' garage to within 5' of the rear property line.  Add in the 5', 20', and however long the driveway is ~18' and you'll have ~43' between the back fence and the end of the driveway.  Not too shabby TIC, way to innovate. 

Imagine that with the 4.5' side setbacks?  They could go 15x20 on top of the garage too, assuming they can't build 2 stories 5' from the back fence.  10' instead. 

So they'd have 33' between the back door and the end of the driveway (which would be the property line) on the non-garage part of the structure. So for a 2-story box for this section, multiply by 66 to get the 2-story buildable right?

So on a lot of 43' by 59'  (2537 sqft), they'd have a possible house of 2,280 sqft...WITH a driveway! way to go!

This is not even counting if they go to to your 24x14 3rd story bonus/inlaw quarters.  I think that could be done without it being exactly on any of the exterior boundaries...and give you another 350 or so sqft.  That would give them their ~1 buildable sqft per 1 sqft of land...WITH a driveway.  Maybe that's what they're doing?  Look how tall the roof is in the middle.  Anybody see any windows up there? :)
Of course they are doing that, they see how much extra of a premium are willing to pay to have a full driveway for their detached/attached condo.  I think I've seen the premium be $30k-$40k and those lots sold FAST.

I meant maybe they're doing that with the 3rd floor.  I know generally what they're doing.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 06:33:10 AM
Page is up.

http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village (http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 08:44:31 AM
Page is up.

http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village (http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village)
Hehe... I was URL trolling for this too. Interesting floorplans.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 20, 2013, 09:01:10 AM
Page is up.

http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village (http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village)
Hehe... I was URL trolling for this too. Interesting floorplans.

See anything good IHO?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 09:26:28 AM
I actually don't think you're giving up much theoretical "usable backyard space" in Mulberry since the lots are almost twice as wide as Mendocino.  There also appears to be about two spaces worth of parking along each lot.  Mendocino will not have anything even near that.  To be honest I think these are better than Mendocino.  I'll take a dogwash shower in the back and make it a small gym with shower. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
See anything good IHO?
Well... these are definitely the California Garage homes (Magnolia and Mulberry), the smaller tract, Marigold, is similar to the largest detached motor court condos in Stonegate and LagAlt but some tweaked designs.

Seems like IP is listening to the customers... most of the homes have a walk-in pantry (very popular feature), upstairs laundry (I think only one in Marigold has a downstairs one) and they brought back the California Room.

The California Garage is a great feature if you ask me, since there is no room for 3CWGs or a full tandem space in Irvine anymore, this fits the bill. Additionally, they offer multiple configurations for it... a dedicated storage (Costco!), a gym, a tween or play room, an office... and my personal favorite... a dogwash complete with a shower.

I think for the middle tract, Magnolia, it will be interesting to see how they are set up with that 4-home cluster. It's probably going to be similar to Montecito with a 4-home motorcourt. I also think they should have added a loft space to Magnolia to make up for the lost space downstairs.

The Mulberry homes are weird... wide and shallow. Have to see what they look like inside but from the floor plans, it might be a bit strange on the first floor. There is loft space in the bigger Mulberry homes which is good... and different options to turn those lofts into bedrooms.

For the area (close to the freeway and dense), the prices seem a bit high, but it looks like they would rather be too high than low.

My favorite plans are Plan 2 or 3 in Mulberry but at $900k+... not what I would want to pay.

Some of these plans are an improvement over what we've seen the last 3 years from TIC... but at the cost of much less land and home footprint.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 09:37:31 AM
It looks like the CA garage protrudes 8' from the back of the home per their measuring tape widget.  If they got their setback of 5' as I'm sure they did, that would be 13' from the rest of the rear of the house to the back fence.  But since the lots are wide it will be 13' x 45' for a Plan 1...Not including the CA room.  That's comparable to Mendocino since their lots are only 45' wide for a Plan 1.  Yeah honestly given the better parking situation I can't really see any negatives compared to Mendocino. 

Plan 1 with 4th bedroom option, Super California Room, dogwash at CA garage...not too shabby.  The only thing I hate that I've seen so far is the MBR shares a partial wall with a secondary bedroom.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 11:10:36 AM
I don't know who designs the street layout, but I would think they would choose a layout that creates a higher number of "premium" lots and also provides some family type streets.

Current on the left, IHO-style on the right:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/fumglh.jpg)

Same space, same number of homes but in this configuration, you get 4 cul-de-sacs and 8 more lots that are "corner" lots. Wouldn't that be better?

And if you're worried about the Feng Shui T homes, you can add another cross street in the middle that would add 4 more corner lots (but I think you lose 2 homes).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on March 20, 2013, 11:24:12 AM
the mulberry plan 3 is probably my favorite since it gives you the loft option since you will already have 4 other bedrooms.  pretty neat options for the extra garage space.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 11:26:00 AM
Well with this setup no homes actually back Trabuco...I was looking at the completed Stonegate East and they did this a lot..since most of that village backs Sand Canyon.

Seems like a way to push the arterial street buffer zone thinner while still yielding the same amount of homes.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 11:49:44 AM
Well with this setup no homes actually back Trabuco...I was looking at the completed Stonegate East and they did this a lot..since most of that village backs Sand Canyon.

Seems like a way to push the arterial street buffer zone thinner while still yielding the same amount of homes.
In my setup, only 4 more homes side Trabuco (in theirs, there are 4 homes siding Trabuco in the corner streets). Some people don't mind siding a road if it gives them a cul-de-sac instead of a drive-by (like it currently is).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 11:54:03 AM
Maybe they want to make the streets a foot or two more narrow and turning around in a cul de sac would be noticeably difficult :)  I swear with these home designs and the dinky setback from the non-garage part of the house to the street...looking down the street is going to look like one long 30' wall on each side of the street :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvine123searching on March 20, 2013, 11:56:33 AM
Those single family homes have 10' ceiling on the first floor which is nice.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on March 20, 2013, 12:01:56 PM
What do you think IP will build here? It's so close to the freeway, I can't imagine these selling well.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 12:10:50 PM
The ones closest to the freeway will either be condos or apartments. It's a formula they have been using since Quail Hill... use the "riffraff" as a buffer.

I can say that because I am riffraff.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 01:00:05 PM
Irvine Pacific's site is interesting, it's called The 2013 Irvine Pacific Collection:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/Default.aspx

And Marigold and Magnolia are on what is being called the "California Court"...  "shared by only four residences, reinvents the motor court experience with the inclusion of unique architectural styles, lush landscaping and decorative pavers within the courtway." For Magnolia... "The innovative California Court offers a truly unique four-home configuration coupled with the addition of extra-long driveways to enhance the arrival experience."

Wow... marketing the motorcourt as a feature... amazing.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 01:18:06 PM
Irvine Pacific's site is interesting, it's called The 2013 Irvine Pacific Collection:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/Default.aspx

And Marigold and Magnolia are on what is being called the "California Court"...  "shared by only four residences, reinvents the motor court experience with the inclusion of unique architectural styles, lush landscaping and decorative pavers within the courtway." For Magnolia... "The innovative California Court offers a truly unique four-home configuration coupled with the addition of extra-long driveways to enhance the arrival experience."

Wow... marketing the motorcourt as a feature... amazing.

I think it will be interesting because Magnolia and Mulberry are similar in sqft and basic features and are priced similarly/sqft.  I guess if the "extra long driveways" were 25 feet long it would be a difference? I don't know if anything would make me want a motorcourt.  But I did a rough estimate and they're not getting that much, if any, additional units/acre for the motorcourt ones.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong- I measured it in Paint, haha.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on March 20, 2013, 01:21:13 PM
Irvine Pacific's site is interesting, it's called The 2013 Irvine Pacific Collection:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/Default.aspx

And Marigold and Magnolia are on what is being called the "California Court"...  "shared by only four residences, reinvents the motor court experience with the inclusion of unique architectural styles, lush landscaping and decorative pavers within the courtway." For Magnolia... "The innovative California Court offers a truly unique four-home configuration coupled with the addition of extra-long driveways to enhance the arrival experience."

Wow... marketing the motorcourt as a feature... amazing.

Same innovative IP floor plans but on a 4 home motor court. Wow, real out of the box thinking on TIC's part [/sarcasm].
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on March 20, 2013, 01:27:54 PM
The ones closest to the freeway will either be condos or apartments. It's a formula they have been using since Quail Hill... use the "riffraff" as a buffer.

I can say that because I am riffraff.

I was surprised TIC placed the rental apartments on such valuable property adjacent to the community park (sites 2 & 3). Anything along the 5 will have terrible noise and pollution issues. Those locations would have been better for rental apartments.

(http://www.cityofirvine.org/images/depts/cd/planningactivities/PublicNoticeMapPA40CypressVillage_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
I think it will be interesting because Magnolia and Mulberry are similar in sqft and basic features and are priced similarly/sqft.  I guess if the "extra long driveways" were 25 feet long it would be a difference? I don't know if anything would make me want a motorcourt.  But I did a rough estimate and they're not getting that much, if any, additional units/acre for the motorcourt ones.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong- I measured it in Paint, haha.
I don't think they gain additional units, which is why pricing is similar... but they can get more footprint out of the homes in the 4-court cluster.

I think they are trying to sell Magnolia based on bigger interior square footage, whereas Mulberry is a more "traditional" SFR setup.

But I'm like you... why get the reduced privacy of a motorcourt set up... I didn't like it at Montecito (and they had driveways too) so I doubt I'll like it for Magnolia.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
I think it will be interesting because Magnolia and Mulberry are similar in sqft and basic features and are priced similarly/sqft.  I guess if the "extra long driveways" were 25 feet long it would be a difference? I don't know if anything would make me want a motorcourt.  But I did a rough estimate and they're not getting that much, if any, additional units/acre for the motorcourt ones.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong- I measured it in Paint, haha.
I don't think they gain additional units, which is why pricing is similar... but they can get more footprint out of the homes in the 4-court cluster.

I think they are trying to sell Magnolia based on bigger interior square footage, whereas Mulberry is a more "traditional" SFR setup.

But I'm like you... why get the reduced privacy of a motorcourt set up... I didn't like it at Montecito (and they had driveways too) so I doubt I'll like it for Magnolia.

Yeah, looking at it I suppose in the 4-home cluster, half of them are Plan 3.  It's still very close though considering Mulberry Plan 1 can add on square footage (4th bedroom option) to make it larger than Magnolia Plan 1, and Mulberry Plan 2 is larger than Magnolia Plan 2.

I still see no reason, price/sqft being virtually equal, to choose the motorcourt. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 02:03:25 PM
If you look at Irvinepacific.com it has a big marketing piece about the California Court.  I mean it's better than not having a driveway, but why would someone choose it over the SFR?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: gld2 on March 20, 2013, 02:40:41 PM
Garden Hills at PS has the same set up, a 4-house court.    It is terrible.  It is very interesting to find out who purchased this type house with over $1mm
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 20, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Page is up.

http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village (http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village)

Seriously...Mulberry and Magnolia are starting at the mid-800s? Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on March 20, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.

which part of stonegate?

id rather live in cypress village (closer to the trabuco side) than stonegate. closer freeway access.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 20, 2013, 03:23:27 PM
Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.

which part of stonegate?

id rather live in cypress village (closer to the trabuco side) than stonegate. closer freeway access.

I wouldn't...why would I want to get closer to the freeway (noise/pollution) and traffic?  Stonegate is much more set back and quieter.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on March 20, 2013, 03:30:54 PM
Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.

which part of stonegate?

id rather live in cypress village (closer to the trabuco side) than stonegate. closer freeway access.

I wouldn't...why would I want to get closer to the freeway (noise/pollution) and traffic?  Stonegate is much more set back and quieter.

because other people think it's too close to the landfill which I have yet to smell.  Or I guess they think there is enough waste and chemical stuff you'll get cancer or other health problems. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on March 20, 2013, 03:39:47 PM
Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.

which part of stonegate?

id rather live in cypress village (closer to the trabuco side) than stonegate. closer freeway access.

I wouldn't...why would I want to get closer to the freeway (noise/pollution) and traffic?  Stonegate is much more set back and quieter.

can you hear the traffic from trabuco? i would agree stonegate is quieter but if this part of Cypress Village is far enough from the 5 that i cant hear it, i would take that over stonegate.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on March 20, 2013, 03:40:43 PM
Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.

which part of stonegate?

id rather live in cypress village (closer to the trabuco side) than stonegate. closer freeway access.

I wouldn't...why would I want to get closer to the freeway (noise/pollution) and traffic?  Stonegate is much more set back and quieter.

because other people think it's too close to the landfill which I have yet to smell.  Or I guess they think there is enough waste and chemical stuff you'll get cancer or other health problems. 

Woodbury > Stonegate > Cypress Village

At least the Cypress homes offer better value and design than Branches. Still hopeful about The Great Park homes later this year.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 20, 2013, 03:41:40 PM
I think with the buffer from the park and whatever they are building south of it, freeway noise won't be an issue for the Triple M Hoods.

I also prefer being closer to the freeway... just not right next to it (oh the irony).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 20, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
I've read the Great Park homes are going to offer something "different".  To be perfectly honest I'd rather just have a 5,000 sqft lot, not many amenities past greenbelts and passive parks, and low or no mello/low hoa.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 20, 2013, 03:50:34 PM
Stonegate is a bargain compared to those prices.

which part of stonegate?

id rather live in cypress village (closer to the trabuco side) than stonegate. closer freeway access.

I wouldn't...why would I want to get closer to the freeway (noise/pollution) and traffic?  Stonegate is much more set back and quieter.

because other people think it's too close to the landfill which I have yet to smell.  Or I guess they think there is enough waste and chemical stuff you'll get cancer or other health problems.

It's pretty far from the landfill and it's much better than the freeway.

Being next to the middle school is also interesting. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on March 20, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
Minus
Stonegate -> Landfill, lack of amenities and the floor plans are rinse and repeat as there is only 1 home builder
Woodbury -> low income housing, schools with significant Hispanic population and poor API scores
Cypress Village -> even more low income housing, more apartments and adjacent to a busy free way.

Plus
Stonegate -> furtheres away from freeway, access to Irvine's top schools
Woodbury -> amenities second to Woodbridge, variety in home types, Woodbury Town Center
Cypress Village -> freeway access, California Court, California Garage and Super California Room

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: BunkMoreland on March 20, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
"Woodbury -> low income housing, schools with significant Hispanic population and poor API scores"

Diversity isn't a negative IMO. Less likely to raise spoiled entitled kids who can't survive in the real world. Woodbury FTW.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 21, 2013, 09:35:32 AM
Minus
Stonegate -> Landfill, lack of amenities and the floor plans are rinse and repeat as there is only 1 home builder
Woodbury -> low income housing, schools with significant Hispanic population and poor API scores
Cypress Village -> even more low income housing, more apartments and adjacent to a busy free way.

Plus
Stonegate -> furtheres away from freeway, access to Irvine's top schools
Woodbury -> amenities second to Woodbridge, variety in home types, Woodbury Town Center
Cypress Village -> freeway access, California Court, California Garage and Super California Room

Stonegate:  Lack of amenities?   It has nice parks and no shopping center traffic.  It's just a different layout than Woodbury.

Woodbury:  The biggest con is that it feeds into Irvine High.  I have plenty of friend in Woodbury and the elementary is dominated by Asians and Indians.  Also, it's elementary school...the social interactions are infinitely more important than API scores. 

Cypress Village:  Not within walking distance of an elementary school and near a freeway.  I have no idea what the High School it feeds into.  The California garage designs are interesting. 



Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on March 21, 2013, 09:57:31 AM
Minus
Stonegate -> Landfill, lack of amenities and the floor plans are rinse and repeat as there is only 1 home builder
Woodbury -> low income housing, schools with significant Hispanic population and poor API scores
Cypress Village -> even more low income housing, more apartments and adjacent to a busy free way.

Plus
Stonegate -> furtheres away from freeway, access to Irvine's top schools
Woodbury -> amenities second to Woodbridge, variety in home types, Woodbury Town Center
Cypress Village -> freeway access, California Court, California Garage and Super California Room

Stonegate:  Lack of amenities?   It has nice parks and no shopping center traffic.  It's just a different layout than Woodbury.


What Stonegate lacks in amenities is a Commons. That includes a private recreation center for hosting parties, a resort style pool, and a nice water play area for kids. Not a deal breaker for most, but even at final buildout Woodbury will still have superior amenities versus Stonegate for the same master HOA price.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 21, 2013, 09:59:41 AM
Cypress Village will have its own Elementary in Fall of 2014... and the middle school is in walking distance (which I think more kids actually "walk" to).

As for High School, it's probably going to either be Irvine High or High School #5 (in Heritage Fields near the Great Park).

Not so sure why Irvine High is a con, as ALL of Irvine's high schools finish in the top percentiles in Cali and the US. And with the influx of families from Woodbury, there will be a new generation of "motivated" students attending Irvine High in the next decade or two.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on March 21, 2013, 10:06:25 AM
I've read the Great Park homes are going to offer something "different".  To be perfectly honest I'd rather just have a 5,000 sqft lot, not many amenities past greenbelts and passive parks, and low or no mello/low hoa.

Say, I know where you can get a lot over 5,000 sqft with only $70 in HOA dues which includes pool, spa, clubhouse, and parks equipped with tennis and basketball courts, baseball field, etc.  :)  :D
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 21, 2013, 10:13:48 AM
Cypress Village will have its own Elementary in Fall of 2014... and the middle school is in walking distance (which I think more kids actually "walk" to).

As for High School, it's probably going to either be Irvine High or High School #5 (in Heritage Fields near the Great Park).

Not so sure why Irvine High is a con, as ALL of Irvine's high schools finish in the top percentiles in Cali and the US. And with the influx of families from Woodbury, there will be a new generation of "motivated" students attending Irvine High in the next decade or two.

Everything is relative but I know that we liked Stonegate because it feeds into Northwood.   API says that Uni and Northwood are a step above Irvine and Woodbridge.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 21, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
I've read the Great Park homes are going to offer something "different".  To be perfectly honest I'd rather just have a 5,000 sqft lot, not many amenities past greenbelts and passive parks, and low or no mello/low hoa.

Say, I know where you can get a lot over 5,000 sqft with only $70 in HOA dues which includes pool, spa, clubhouse, and parks equipped with tennis and basketball courts, baseball field, etc.  :)  :D

If there isn't a 99 Ranch market within a few miles then..... not interested... ::)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 21, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
I've read the Great Park homes are going to offer something "different".  To be perfectly honest I'd rather just have a 5,000 sqft lot, not many amenities past greenbelts and passive parks, and low or no mello/low hoa.

Say, I know where you can get a lot over 5,000 sqft with only $70 in HOA dues which includes pool, spa, clubhouse, and parks equipped with tennis and basketball courts, baseball field, etc.  :)  :D

The Great Park formerly being a military base is a real turnoff.  The disclosures at Columbus Square/Grove are scary.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on March 21, 2013, 11:28:18 AM
The place I'm referring to is off the base and away from the Columbus area.  :)

With Irvine being as widespread as it is, the distance to a 99 Ranch is about the same as if you were driving from any far-flung part of Irvine but less than Shady Canyon.

$1,600/yr. M.R. (for me but less for the smaller homes) set to expire in 6 years with no plans to issue additional bonds. (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/banana.gif)
Or as Homer would say : (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/dancing-banana-homer-simpson-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 21, 2013, 01:06:42 PM
very cute socal!


Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 21, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
The place I'm referring to is off the base and away from the Columbus area.  :)

With Irvine being as widespread as it is, the distance to a 99 Ranch is about the same as if you were driving from any far-flung part of Irvine but less than Shady Canyon.

$1,600/yr. M.R. (for me but less for the smaller homes) set to expire in 6 years with no plans to issue additional bonds. (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/banana.gif)
Or as Homer would say : (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/dancing-banana-homer-simpson-smiley-emoticon.gif)

ok, where is this?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on March 21, 2013, 08:59:17 PM
ok, where is this?

<-------

 :)

I believe you've mentioned working in the same vicinity.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on March 22, 2013, 07:14:29 AM
ok, where is this?

<-------

 :)

I believe you've mentioned working in the same vicinity.

yeah there are a few neighborhoods I like in there, one being "vintage gallery" off Paloma...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Alex. on March 25, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
Irvine Pacific's site is interesting, it's called The 2013 Irvine Pacific Collection:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/Default.aspx

And Marigold and Magnolia are on what is being called the "California Court"...  "shared by only four residences, reinvents the motor court experience with the inclusion of unique architectural styles, lush landscaping and decorative pavers within the courtway." For Magnolia... "The innovative California Court offers a truly unique four-home configuration coupled with the addition of extra-long driveways to enhance the arrival experience."

Wow... marketing the motorcourt as a feature... amazing.

LOL - couldn't help but laugh at this while reading the promo info on TIC and IP's websites.  Surprising what TIC has come to — actually attempting to promote the motor court!  The fact that anyone would buy these homes like Magnolia at mid $800K+ is simply outrageous, but I'm sure every Irvine homeowner looking to sell is loving the prices right now!

 "Enhance the arrival experience" — give me a break.  Put the houes facing the road and you won't have any special "arrival experience" to enhance — I'd say more customers would prefer that, despite IP's marketing slogan "You asked, we delivered".

Oh, and the dog wash is entertaining as well...wonder how much they'll charge to add that on (because we all need that dedicated room to wash our dogs...definitely can't wash them in the normal bathroom!).  But I'm not seeing how this "California Garage" is any different from a garage with additional storage space in the back...am I missing something?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on March 25, 2013, 06:48:30 PM
Irvine Pacific's site is interesting, it's called The 2013 Irvine Pacific Collection:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/Default.aspx

And Marigold and Magnolia are on what is being called the "California Court"...  "shared by only four residences, reinvents the motor court experience with the inclusion of unique architectural styles, lush landscaping and decorative pavers within the courtway." For Magnolia... "The innovative California Court offers a truly unique four-home configuration coupled with the addition of extra-long driveways to enhance the arrival experience."

Wow... marketing the motorcourt as a feature... amazing.

LOL - couldn't help but laugh at this while reading the promo info on TIC and IP's websites.  Surprising what TIC has come to — actually attempting to promote the motor court!  The fact that anyone would buy these homes like Magnolia at mid $800K+ is simply outrageous, but I'm sure every Irvine homeowner looking to sell is loving the prices right now!

 "Enhance the arrival experience" — give me a break.  Put the houes facing the road and you won't have any special "arrival experience" to enhance — I'd say more customers would prefer that, despite IP's marketing slogan "You asked, we delivered".

Oh, and the dog wash is entertaining as well...wonder how much they'll charge to add that on (because we all need that dedicated room to wash our dogs...definitely can't wash them in the normal bathroom!).  But I'm not seeing how this "California Garage" is any different from a garage with additional storage space in the back...am I missing something?
I wonder how long before TIC gets a variance exception from their buddies at the City of Irvine to shrink the motorcourt that it's only wide enough to fit one car at a time.  Then they can charge a premium for the current wider motorcourt homes. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on March 26, 2013, 07:56:38 PM
AJW I Think you just killed you chance of attending any college.

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Irvine Pacific's site is interesting, it's called The 2013 Irvine Pacific Collection:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/Default.aspx

And Marigold and Magnolia are on what is being called the "California Court"...  "shared by only four residences, reinvents the motor court experience with the inclusion of unique architectural styles, lush landscaping and decorative pavers within the courtway." For Magnolia... "The innovative California Court offers a truly unique four-home configuration coupled with the addition of extra-long driveways to enhance the arrival experience."

Wow... marketing the motorcourt as a feature... amazing.

LOL - couldn't help but laugh at this while reading the promo info on TIC and IP's websites.  Surprising what TIC has come to — actually attempting to promote the motor court!  The fact that anyone would buy these homes like Magnolia at mid $800K+ is simply outrageous, but I'm sure every Irvine homeowner looking to sell is loving the prices right now!

 "Enhance the arrival experience" — give me a break.  Put the houes facing the road and you won't have any special "arrival experience" to enhance — I'd say more customers would prefer that, despite IP's marketing slogan "You asked, we delivered".

Oh, and the dog wash is entertaining as well...wonder how much they'll charge to add that on (because we all need that dedicated room to wash our dogs...definitely can't wash them in the normal bathroom!).  But I'm not seeing how this "California Garage" is any different from a garage with additional storage space in the back...am I missing something?
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 26, 2013, 08:45:50 PM
You think that's rich... you should read their California Garage marketing blurb:

(http://www2.irvinepacific.com/tic_web/images/CV002/header.jpg)

http://www2.irvinepacific.com/mk/get/CV002

Quote
One of the most innovative and exciting aspects of the 2013 Irvine Pacific® Collection is the new California Garage, featured at Mulberry. By reimagining the way homebuyers look at extra space, Irvine Pacific has delivered flexible garage designs inspired by how people live today. The California Garage transforms additional space into a variety of sought after options, from a dedicated home office or home gym, to a tween room for the teens or playhouse for toys, trains and more - there is something for everyone - even the family pet!

And one more:

http://www.irvinepacific.com/IP2013Collection/CaliforniaGarage.aspx

Quote
This garage is a game-changer.
 
Imagine the possibilities a garage can bring. Irvine Pacific has re-imagined the way people look at extra space and delivered flexible garage designs inspired by the lifestyles of today’s consumers. From tweens to work-at-home moms and even the family pet, the California Garage has the versatility to accommodate your lifestyle.

They must have been reading too many of my garage threads.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on March 26, 2013, 08:56:36 PM
I don't keep up at all with the Irvine new homes. Someone explain to me where all of these vehicles are going to go. If not the garage, if not the non-existent driveway, and if not the curb due to cramped lots, then where??

Now is the city's chance to cash in on metered parking or parking spots in residential parking garages like in some cities where they cost an arm and a leg.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on March 27, 2013, 09:07:17 AM
Oh, and the dog wash is entertaining as well...wonder how much they'll charge to add that on (because we all need that dedicated room to wash our dogs...definitely can't wash them in the normal bathroom!).

There is no price too high to be paid for a pet washroom, apparently. A Chinese woman has just purchased a $6.5M apartment in New York's One57 Tower for her 2 year old daughter to live in when she goes to college one day. The daughter's age is not a typo. She is currently a toddler. Among many other things like an indoor swimming pool, a concert hall, and unparalleled views of Carnegie Hall & Central Park, it has a pet washroom.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2299847/Chinese-mother-buys-year-old-4million-New-York-flat.html

Edit: Converted sale price from pounds to USD.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 27, 2013, 10:24:03 AM
@SoCal:

The Cali Garage room options don't replace your existing garage space, there is extra space at the rear of the garage so you can still park 2 cars in it and have your dogwash/gym/mancave/velodrome.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: furioussugar on March 27, 2013, 12:44:17 PM
When do the models open?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: zubs on March 27, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
So you mean it's a 3 car tandem garage, where the tandem space can become a room?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 27, 2013, 01:04:13 PM
So you mean it's a 3 car tandem garage, where the tandem space can become a room?

It's like the Lantana plan in Columbus Grove then with the Tandem 3rd?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 27, 2013, 01:18:25 PM
So you mean it's a 3 car tandem garage, where the tandem space can become a room?
Yes... but the extra space is shorter than a car length so they can't technically call it a tandem... hence... The Kaleefonya Garage!

And unlike a 3-car tandem, in most of the Mulberry models, it's the same width as the garage... so it's really like an extra-long garage.

EDIT: Just checked... it's more like maybe 2/3 the width.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 27, 2013, 01:48:34 PM
I was bored so I put this together for SoCal:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2hxrrcj.jpg)

Feel free to use it as your wallpaper. :)

(I think the one on the bottom right is a "game changer"!)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 27, 2013, 02:33:02 PM
Relooking at those Mulberry plans, the entry into the house from the garage is a problem.

Did anyone from IP put 2 cars in that garage and test that entrance to see how easy it is to get in and out? There is a reason that most garage entry doors are at the very front if it's going to be a side entry... or a front entry altogether.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on March 27, 2013, 02:35:22 PM
to complete the picture
1. Add 4CWG for ihs
2. for the poor people, add 2 car tandem garage with 2 options
    a. 1 door
    b. "through" like those floor plans in NWP.
 

I was bored so I put this together for SoCal:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2hxrrcj.jpg)

Feel free to use it as your wallpaper. :)

(I think the one on the bottom right is a "game changer"!)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on March 27, 2013, 02:46:05 PM
IPAC's recent innovation history
1. California Court aka Motor Court
2. California Room aka covered patio, with reduced rear set back
3. Observatory aka California Room with walls, with reduced rear set back
4. California Garage aka garage with extra storage, with reduced rear set back

For 2~4 you get smaller yard space and charged a premium at the same time, simply brilliant.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 27, 2013, 02:48:01 PM
Thanks for the new AVATAR IHO :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: nosuchreality on March 27, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
I'm guessing those garages are like the ones in the newer Irvine townhomes, park two midsize cars in it and you can't open the car doors.  I think that garage is a game changer.  I mean, it's a garage, one with actual space available for some garage storage.  You know, tools, maybe holiday supplies.  A little workbench.  A major profit maker too because I'm guessing 9 out of 10 turn it into an office / hobby room and fork over major upgrade dollars.

Basically, the motorcourt is just a squared up cul-de-sac design.   It gets 8 homes wedged into the frontage of two homes and a driveway width.  Drops an extra road. I think it looks like they almost squeeze 8 of those smaller homes into an area the size of the pool they're showing.  Not sure how many homes are in that center group, but the two outside groups on the 'motorcourts' have 144 and 112 homes each, by my eyeball.

The motorcourt is an improvement over the drivewayless driveways of previous townhome complexes, and I'm guessing they've managed to get townhouse unit density while providing a SFR footprint.  $ ching to $$ cha-ching

Will the HOA prohibit extended parking on the driveway?  Each house has their own driveway off the motorcourt.  Instant guest parking, or instant annoyance of the motorcourt looking like the car packed streets of rental neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: nosuchreality on March 27, 2013, 03:06:02 PM

(http://www2.irvinepacific.com/tic_web/images/CV002/header.jpg)


LOL, I just realized looking at the floorplans, that view out the windows in the 'image' above, IS the backyard.  Flipping through their images, they have lots of windows for light and space, but they all appear to open on about six feet of depth to the wall?

Where does the grill go?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on March 27, 2013, 03:35:39 PM
Fixed it.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 27, 2013, 03:44:44 PM
Fixed it.

Can you make his arms touching the window and his home??
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on March 27, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
I was bored so I put this together for SoCal:


You are awesome.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 28, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
Heh... the latest email ad about Cypress Village says:

"Award-winning schools just steps from home."

The problem is, the schools haven't even opened yet. TIC is from the fuuuuuttuuuuuurrre!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on March 28, 2013, 05:01:55 PM
Heh... the latest email ad about Cypress Village says:

"Award-winning schools just steps from home."

The problem is, the schools haven't even opened yet. TIC is from the fuuuuuttuuuuuurrre!
Come on IHO, all Irvine schools are award-winning by default (built or not).   ;)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 04, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village/Amenities

these amenities kind of rival woodbury dont they? i thought cypress was supposed to be a ghetto hood?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 04, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village/Amenities

these amenities kind of rival woodbury dont they? i thought cypress was supposed to be a ghetto hood?
Not quite... you can compare it to theirs:

http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Woodbury/Amenities

Depends on how they set it up... but from what I read, Cypress does not have something comparable to the Commons in Woodbury... no indoor facilities/clubhouse rooms for indoor events... no lagoon-like pool with sand entry... no water play area.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 04, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village/Amenities

these amenities kind of rival woodbury dont they? i thought cypress was supposed to be a ghetto hood?
Not quite... you can compare it to theirs:

http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Woodbury/Amenities

Depends on how they set it up... but from what I read, Cypress does not have something comparable to the Commons in Woodbury... no indoor facilities/clubhouse rooms for indoor events... no lagoon-like pool with sand entry... no water play area.

Yup seems like the small park idea at Stonegate.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvine_Dreamer on April 07, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
I noticed the banner around CV advertising saltwater pool.
Is that how it is in SG and WB?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on April 07, 2013, 10:17:11 PM
Not in WB.  I think it's unique to CV.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 07, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
Not in WB.  I think it's unique to CV.

WB apartment renters get salt water pools--Woodbury Place and Woodbury Lane.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on April 08, 2013, 08:50:52 AM
Salt water pools are a gimmick. They are just as bad for you as chlorine, but without the smell. Have you ever gone swimming in a saltwater pool and later felt that your skin was extra soft? It's because the top layer of skin has been remove by the harsh mix of chemicals. The mixture is pretty comparable to borax.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 08, 2013, 09:12:47 AM
Salt water pools are at most of the IAC apartment.  It's nothing new.  Anything built within the last 10 years have the salt water pools.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 08, 2013, 09:39:12 AM
Salt water pools are a gimmick. They are just as bad for you as chlorine, but without the smell. Have you ever gone swimming in a saltwater pool and later felt that your skin was extra soft? It's because the top layer of skin has been remove by the harsh mix of chemicals. The mixture is pretty comparable to borax.
Are you sure about this? I've read that saltwater is not as harsh as chlorine and easier to maintain.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on April 08, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 08, 2013, 09:52:35 AM
I like the saltwater because 1) no shutting down of the pool for cleaning & waiting like chlorine, 2) doesn't burn your eyes like chlorine, and 3) I can tell a huge difference with my hair (very, very fine strands but a ton of them) - it doesn't strip your hair like harsh chlorine or affect the color if you have light hair color.

I do wonder if it's as "clean" as a chlorinated pool i.e. if a kid pees in it (not that I ever think of a pool as sanitary but you know...) however, the other benefits are good with me.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on April 08, 2013, 09:59:07 AM
If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!

Thats different. Water softeners use actual salt, while salt water pools use a broken down version of salt. In fact, after the salt has been broken down, it creates hypochlorous acid and sodium hypochlorite. So a salt water pool is not chlorine free at all.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 08, 2013, 10:01:34 AM
I don't think the contention is that salt water is chlorine-free... the science is it chlorinates also... but it's supposed to be milder.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 08, 2013, 10:15:04 AM
Water softeners use salt to regenerate; conditioned water has higher concentration of sodium ion in it, but it is not salt per se.

If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!

Thats different. Water softeners use actual salt, while salt water pools use a broken down version of salt. In fact, after the salt has been broken down, it creates hypochlorous acid and sodium hypochlorite. So a salt water pool is not chlorine free at all.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 08, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!

Thats different. Water softeners use actual salt, while salt water pools use a broken down version of salt. In fact, after the salt has been broken down, it creates hypochlorous acid and sodium hypochlorite. So a salt water pool is not chlorine free at all.

I've swam in salt water pools now for the last 3-4 years.  Does my skin feel better?  Hell if I know.  Is it less chlorinated than non salt water pools?  Definitely.  I don't come out smelling like choline. 

Hypocholorous acid and your sodium hypocholorite is the natural occurance when adding chlorine to water.  In fact it's the whole point of adding chlorine to water.  It's disinfecting...so what is your point about salt water pools?  It's the same reaction to adding chlorine to not salt water pools.  How do i know this?  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google it.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: JasonTheArtist on April 08, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!

Thats different. Water softeners use actual salt, while salt water pools use a broken down version of salt. In fact, after the salt has been broken down, it creates hypochlorous acid and sodium hypochlorite. So a salt water pool is not chlorine free at all.

I've swam in salt water pools now for the last 3-4 years.  Does my skin feel better?  Hell if I know.  Is it less chlorinated than non salt water pools?  Definitely.  I don't come out smelling like choline. 

Hypocholorous acid and your sodium hypocholorite is the natural occurance when adding chlorine to water.  In fact it's the whole point of adding chlorine to water.  It's disinfecting...so what is your point about salt water pools?  It's the same reaction to adding chlorine to not salt water pools.  How do i know this?  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google it.

My whole point is that saying a pool is salt water is a sales gimmick. Maybe if you wouldn't have left a rotting tampon up your ass, you could have realized that before you left a rude a$$ comment.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: shadax on April 08, 2013, 12:33:35 PM
If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!

Thats different. Water softeners use actual salt, while salt water pools use a broken down version of salt. In fact, after the salt has been broken down, it creates hypochlorous acid and sodium hypochlorite. So a salt water pool is not chlorine free at all.

I've swam in salt water pools now for the last 3-4 years.  Does my skin feel better?  Hell if I know.  Is it less chlorinated than non salt water pools?  Definitely.  I don't come out smelling like choline. 

Hypocholorous acid and your sodium hypocholorite is the natural occurance when adding chlorine to water.  In fact it's the whole point of adding chlorine to water.  It's disinfecting...so what is your point about salt water pools?  It's the same reaction to adding chlorine to not salt water pools.  How do i know this?  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google it.

My whole point is that saying a pool is salt water is a sales gimmick. Maybe if you wouldn't have left a rotting tampon up your ass, you could have realized that before you left a rude a$$ comment.

Sounds like I know who is leaving "rude a$$" comments.  That little gem belonged in a YouTube comments section.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 08, 2013, 01:45:19 PM
I don't know how many homes are planned to be built in CV; but the plan only shows two pools, 1 jr. Olympic size and the other smaller. I think the apartment residents will not access to these pools but the pool to home ratio seems to be on the low side.

which community in Irvine has the highest PH (pool to home, coined here)  ratio? Woodbridge?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 08, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
which community in Irvine has the highest PH (pool to home, coined here)  ratio? Woodbridge?
Has to be.

I got out of one pool and tripped and fell into another.

That's the closest Irvine has gotten to a tidal wave of anything.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 08, 2013, 05:43:52 PM
Then you say it's just s sales gimmick...instead of trying to make the disinfecting of a pool using chlorine sound like a chemistry experiment.   Call me names or whatever...but i'm not the one getting angry.
 

If so then people are killing their skin with water softeners because it's just putting salt in the water supply! I actually had a water softener when I lived in Yorba Linda and my skin always felt great!

Thats different. Water softeners use actual salt, while salt water pools use a broken down version of salt. In fact, after the salt has been broken down, it creates hypochlorous acid and sodium hypochlorite. So a salt water pool is not chlorine free at all.

I've swam in salt water pools now for the last 3-4 years.  Does my skin feel better?  Hell if I know.  Is it less chlorinated than non salt water pools?  Definitely.  I don't come out smelling like choline. 

Hypocholorous acid and your sodium hypocholorite is the natural occurance when adding chlorine to water.  In fact it's the whole point of adding chlorine to water.  It's disinfecting...so what is your point about salt water pools?  It's the same reaction to adding chlorine to not salt water pools.  How do i know this?  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google it.

My whole point is that saying a pool is salt water is a sales gimmick. Maybe if you wouldn't have left a rotting tampon up your ass, you could have realized that before you left a rude a$$ comment.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 08, 2013, 07:11:37 PM
side tracking from this pool discussion; I am surprised no one mentioned 10 ft first floor ceiling height - 1 extra foot will make the home feel more spacious - I gotta give TIC some credit for this change
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on April 10, 2013, 09:28:26 AM
Grand opening on May 6.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 10, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
side tracking from this pool discussion; I am surprised no one mentioned 10 ft first floor ceiling height - 1 extra foot will make the home feel more spacious - I gotta give TIC some credit for this change

There is no more space on their postage stamp lots to build, except up. And we all know TIC will charge you extra for that...call it the "California Ceiling"  ;)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 10, 2013, 10:47:52 AM
side tracking from this pool discussion; I am surprised no one mentioned 10 ft first floor ceiling height - 1 extra foot will make the home feel more spacious - I gotta give TIC some credit for this change

There is no more space on their postage stamps lots to build except up. And we all know TIC will charge you extra for that...call it the "California Ceiling"  ;)
I wonder how long it'll be before we see 3 story motorcourt homes popping up...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 10, 2013, 03:22:15 PM
Kind of like Columbus Square?  If they could build Brownstone housing, that'd be pretty unique and cool to have in Irvine.  And it fits the model of shoving as many houses as you can in a small space.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on April 10, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
Columbus Square is next to a new regional park.  Cypress Village is next to the 5 Freeway.

http://ocparks.com/
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 10, 2013, 03:53:41 PM
Columbus Square is also on a former airbase. :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 10, 2013, 04:03:49 PM
Kind of like Columbus Square?  If they could build Brownstone housing, that'd be pretty unique and cool to have in Irvine.  And it fits the model of shoving as many houses as you can in a small space.



Brownstones?... or Borg cubes. Why not. It's been done.

"Hong Kong is home to a population of seven million crammed into an area of just 424 square miles."

Article here: Can you believe these are actually apartments? The stunning images of Hong Kong ‘living cubicles’ (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306842/Stunning-images-Hong-Kong-living-cubicles-look-just-like-Borg-cubes.html#ixzz2Q6W5qLiW)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/10/article-2306842-19377F79000005DC-441_964x1110.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 10, 2013, 04:04:20 PM
Columbus Square is also on a former airbase. :)

eventually people wont care about this. hell, people dont care about it now. Augusta and the other WL townhome development sold out relatively fast - waivers and all. 

Just cause you wont buy there doesnt mean a bunch of others wont.  People buy homes that are right next to the freeway. People on these boards cant wait for the homes at the great park to be built and that was an even worse location, it was a SUPERFUND site. 

just build it and they will come.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 10, 2013, 04:14:28 PM
eventually people wont care about this. hell, people dont care about it now.
You will when you grow that FOURTH leg. :)
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Augusta and the other WL townhome development sold out relatively fast - waivers and all. 
At the right price, anything sells fast.
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Just cause you wont buy there doesnt mean a bunch of others wont.
You're right... I was just responding to test's post.
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People on these boards cant wait for the homes at the great park to be built and that was an even worse location, it was a SUPERFUND site. 
True... I wouldn't buy there either... but I would buy in Cypress Village over Columbus or the Great Park.
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just build it and price it right and they will come.
Fixed that a little.

I think your dogs are indoor dogs right? How are you landscaping your backyard? All hardscape? I am a bit paranoid about those disclosures... esp because our former dog used to eat/chew the grass in our backyard so I wouldn't know if it was safe for him back there. Believe me, I was close to pulling the trigger at Augusta... but the wife said no.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 10, 2013, 04:48:30 PM
I think your dogs are indoor dogs right? How are you landscaping your backyard? All hardscape? I am a bit paranoid about those disclosures... esp because our former dog used to eat/chew the grass in our backyard so I wouldn't know if it was safe for him back there. Believe me, I was close to pulling the trigger at Augusta... but the wife said no.

my dogs are indoor dogs. our backyard, i mean sideyard is all pavers with a good size patch of grass in the middle so they can go potty.  no plant, no trees or anything else. just grass in the middle and pavers all around.  mine have yet to try to eat the grass in the backyard.  they are never in the backyard unsupervised anyway.  when i walk them one of them occassionaly gets in a bite of grass.  keep in mind that although we had to sigh the disclosures, it was clear that the plume is at least 6 feet underground and it is not everywhere in the community. that is why they dont want you planting things with deep roots. grass doesnt have deep roots so im not too concerned but trust me, i pull the dog as soon as i see her making a run to get a bite of grass cause you never know!

regarding the price being right and anything will sell. i agree. however, i dont think augusta would have been priced higher even if it was not on toxic land. i think the price just reflected that it was in tustin with a bad school district.  so it sounds like you are ok with exposing your family to exhaust 24/7?   :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 10, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
eventually people wont care about this. hell, people dont care about it now.
You will when you grow that FOURTH leg. :)

three is enough   :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on April 10, 2013, 04:50:52 PM
Believe me, I was close to pulling the trigger at Augusta... but the wife said no.

I can tell you're regretting it.  Too bad you let your wife wear the pants in the house.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 10, 2013, 05:19:25 PM
so it sounds like you are ok with exposing your family to exhaust 24/7?   :)
That's going to be the case anywhere in a city. :)

I hate the noise more... do you hear the train over there? That's the other thing I didn't like that much about CS and CG... heck... I could hear the train in WPII and QH.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: quattroporte on April 10, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
Kind of like Columbus Square?  If they could build Brownstone housing, that'd be pretty unique and cool to have in Irvine.  And it fits the model of shoving as many houses as you can in a small space.



Brownstones?... or Borg cubes. Why not. It's been done.

"Hong Kong is home to a population of seven million crammed into an area of just 424 square miles."

Article here: Can you believe these are actually apartments? The stunning images of Hong Kong ‘living cubicles’ (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306842/Stunning-images-Hong-Kong-living-cubicles-look-just-like-Borg-cubes.html#ixzz2Q6W5qLiW)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/10/article-2306842-19377F79000005DC-441_964x1110.jpg)

I think my Verdugo is kicking in..lol
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 10, 2013, 05:44:57 PM
IHO - before they started construction on edinger for the TR overpass there was no train noise since both Harvard and red hill are both quiet zones. Once the construction is done on edinger the trains will stop blowing the whistle. I can only hear it when I'm outside walking the dogs.  Inside the house I can't hear the train. I can't feel it either since we are far enough from edinger
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 10, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
Believe me, I was close to pulling the trigger at Augusta... but the wife said no.

I can tell you're regretting it.  Too bad you let your wife wear the pants in the house.

Test, haven't you heard of that old saying....happy wife, happy life?  I think that's what IHO and most other husbands live by. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 10, 2013, 10:50:27 PM
In that picture of the Hong Kong apartments, why are there no red towels? I see only blue ones... paging IHS... what do blue towels mean? The other gender?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 11, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Believe me, I was close to pulling the trigger at Augusta... but the wife said no.

I can tell you're regretting it.  Too bad you let your wife wear the pants in the house.


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m225/maritajan/smileys/bth_girliepopcorn.gif)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: IrvineRealtor on April 12, 2013, 09:07:58 AM
spoiler alert: test is IHO's wife. IHO is Colonel Lyon.

and Finkel is Einhorn.

-IR2
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 13, 2013, 07:30:57 PM
In that picture of the Hong Kong apartments, why are there no red towels? I see only blue ones... paging IHS... what do blue towels mean? The other gender?

Whaaa...?? Surely, you're not implying what I think you are. Nevah!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 15, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
A lot more coming...TIC copy machine working overtime..

1. Santa Rosa, 98 units (these look like the same homes in Stonegate East/Woodbury East). These are always built as barriers to a major free way (133 and 5)....

2. Santa Barbara, 116 units (copied from Woodbury..)

3. San Mateo, 102 units (copied from Stonegate...)

4. Garden Court, 80 units (attached/detached condoes from Cal Pac; at least something new I guess).

5. Un-named SFRs, 94 units (2200~2600 sqft). Mendocino copy?

http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031597
http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031598
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvine_RC on April 18, 2013, 12:04:29 PM
Looks like grand opening is on May 4, 2013.....  I'm interested in seeing the CA garage and CA motorcourt in person.

Maybe I'll be lucky enough to see the CA door and CA peephole.... ??

http://www2.villagesofirvine.com/tic_web/pdf/Cypress_Village_GO_Flyer.pdf

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 18, 2013, 12:13:59 PM
I actually like the idea of the Cali Garage, the Cali-Sac... not so much.

But with 3CWG homes in Irvine are selling around the same price point... I wouldn't buy one of these 2CWGWDW homes.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 18, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
I actually like the idea of the Cali Garage, the Cali-Sac... not so much.

But with 3CWG homes in Irvine are selling around the same price point... I wouldn't buy one of these 2CWGWDW homes.

Where are you seeing a 3CWG home for mid $800K in Irvine?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 18, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
Where are you seeing a 3CWG home for mid $800K in Irvine?
Not recently... but they pop up every once in a while (like in Windstream, Northwood and Westpark II).

Here's one in Northwood for $760k but I think it needs work:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/4-Alondra-92620/home/4786988
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 18, 2013, 12:32:49 PM
2CWGWDW

I tried so hard but I can't get past the G. Help me?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 18, 2013, 12:37:42 PM
With Dog Wash.

Heh.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 18, 2013, 12:41:24 PM
Where are you seeing a 3CWG home for mid $800K in Irvine?
Not recently... but they pop up every once in a while (like in Windstream, Northwood and Westpark II).

Here's one in Northwood for $760k but I think it needs work:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/4-Alondra-92620/home/4786988

A lot of work.  It is always a good sign when there are no interior pictures.  I doubt you will find a house in Irvine with a 3CG for less than 900K
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 18, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
A lot of work.  It is always a good sign when there are no interior pictures.  I doubt you will find a house in Irvine with a 3CG for less than 900K
Like I said... they pop up every once in a while... some need work, others aren't in the best of locations, but sometimes there are good ones out there. Here are a few that have closed in recent months:

$785k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/7-Aldea-92620/home/4788190
$810k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/3-Foxchase-92618/home/4746447
$814k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/28-Alondra-92620/home/4787040 (same model as 4 Alondra)
$835k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/25-Whistling-Swan-92604/home/4685461 (Woodbridge, decent location)
$835k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/4-Lexington-92620/home/4778526 (we liked this one)
$847k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/5-Calhoun-92620/home/4779557 (saw this one too)
$885k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/12-Bluejay-92604/home/4686911 (this one actually had a nice location)
$888k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/18-Ghiberti-92606/home/4627635 (good location and one of the few WPII models with an upstairs laundry)

There are a few more that are pending. Not sure what the inventory will look like in the next few months... but it's hard to justify spending that much on a 2CWG home (for me at least... I'm a 3CWG advocate).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 18, 2013, 01:01:51 PM
A lot of work.  It is always a good sign when there are no interior pictures.  I doubt you will find a house in Irvine with a 3CG for less than 900K
Like I said... they pop up every once in a while... some need work, others aren't in the best of locations, but sometimes there are good ones out there. Here are a few that have closed in recent months:

$785k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/7-Aldea-92620/home/4788190
$810k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/3-Foxchase-92618/home/4746447
$814k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/28-Alondra-92620/home/4787040 (same model as 4 Alondra)
$835k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/25-Whistling-Swan-92604/home/4685461 (Woodbridge, decent location)
$835k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/4-Lexington-92620/home/4778526 (we liked this one)
$847k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/5-Calhoun-92620/home/4779557 (saw this one too)
$885k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/12-Bluejay-92604/home/4686911 (this one actually had a nice location)
$888k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/18-Ghiberti-92606/home/4627635 (good location and one of the few WPII models with an upstairs laundry)

There are a few more that are pending. Not sure what the inventory will look like in the next few months... but it's hard to justify spending that much on a 2CWG home (for me at least... I'm a 3CWG advocate).

Yeah...garage size is like no. 500 on my list of needs.  2 is plenty...especially if you have a driveway and curb parking.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on April 18, 2013, 01:08:23 PM
A lot of work.  It is always a good sign when there are no interior pictures.  I doubt you will find a house in Irvine with a 3CG for less than 900K
Like I said... they pop up every once in a while... some need work, others aren't in the best of locations, but sometimes there are good ones out there. Here are a few that have closed in recent months:

$785k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/7-Aldea-92620/home/4788190
$810k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/3-Foxchase-92618/home/4746447
$814k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/28-Alondra-92620/home/4787040 (same model as 4 Alondra)
$835k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/25-Whistling-Swan-92604/home/4685461 (Woodbridge, decent location)
$835k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/4-Lexington-92620/home/4778526 (we liked this one)
$847k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/5-Calhoun-92620/home/4779557 (saw this one too)
$885k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/12-Bluejay-92604/home/4686911 (this one actually had a nice location)
$888k http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/18-Ghiberti-92606/home/4627635 (good location and one of the few WPII models with an upstairs laundry)

There are a few more that are pending. Not sure what the inventory will look like in the next few months... but it's hard to justify spending that much on a 2CWG home (for me at least... I'm a 3CWG advocate).

Yeah...garage size is like no. 500 on my list of needs.  2 is plenty...especially if you have a driveway and curb parking.

Plus IMO, if you need a 3rd garage... you prob have too much material stuff.  It's better to live simply.  Purge!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 18, 2013, 01:10:31 PM
Yeah...garage size is like no. 500 on my list of needs.  2 is plenty...especially if you have a driveway and curb parking.
Well... garage size isn't just about number of garage ports to me. It also gives you a larger lot size and bigger floorplan footprint.

Do you think TIC went to the Great Room concept only because it's "popular"? Many of these older 3CWG have a Great Room also, but back then it was called Kitchen/Nook/Family Room. In order to maximize land usage, they had to make lots more narrow so the "tandem 3-car garage" born. And then they needed to make lots shallower, so no more room for the tandem.

And you mention driveway and curb parking... those are also victims of land efficiency, hence the motorcourt (ie Cali-Sac).

But I would rather have what they are doing with Mulberry instead of a motorcourt. I always thought that a driveway is more useful than a front yard (and less maintenance).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 18, 2013, 01:17:49 PM
Yeah...garage size is like no. 500 on my list of needs.  2 is plenty...especially if you have a driveway and curb parking.
Well... garage size isn't just about number of garage ports to me. It also gives you a larger lot size and bigger floorplan footprint.

Do you think TIC went to the Great Room concept only because it's "popular"? Many of these older 3CWG have a Great Room also, but back then it was called Kitchen/Nook/Family Room. In order to maximize land usage, they had to make lots more narrow so the "tandem 3-car garage" born. And then they needed to make lots shallower, so no more room for the tandem.

And you mention driveway and curb parking... those are also victims of land efficiency, hence the motorcourt (ie Cali-Sac).

But I would rather have what they are doing with Mulberry instead of a motorcourt. I always thought that a driveway is more useful than a front yard (and less maintenance).

Great room is simply a better use of the space than the traditional Living Room + Family room.  I look for a better interior design.  We went with Saratoga over Mendocino in large part because Mendocino's interior design is terrible due to the presence of a driveway.

Of course, if all things equal I would like to have a bigger garage and driveway etc but since it's Irvine and I don't have a $1 million laying around, I have to cut back. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 18, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Great room is simply a better use of the space than the traditional Living Room + Family room.  I look for a better interior design.  We went with Saratoga over Mendocino in large part because Mendocino's interior design is terrible due to the presence of a driveway.

Of course, if all things equal I would like to have a bigger garage and driveway etc but since it's Irvine and I don't have a $1 million laying around, I have to cut back. 

You are the perfect TIC customer. Their marketing has worked wonders convincing the public that backyards, driveways, and sidewalks are only for the rich. LOL...TIC now classifies traditional SFR as luxury homes!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: evensteven on April 18, 2013, 04:03:08 PM
A lot more coming...TIC copy machine working overtime..

1. Santa Rosa, 98 units (these look like the same homes in Stonegate East/Woodbury East). These are always built as barriers to a major free way (133 and 5)....

2. Santa Barbara, 116 units (copied from Woodbury..)

3. San Mateo, 102 units (copied from Stonegate...)

4. Garden Court, 80 units (attached/detached condoes from Cal Pac; at least something new I guess).

5. Un-named SFRs, 94 units (2200~2600 sqft). Mendocino copy?

http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031597
http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031598

Is this a map of Cypress Village or an extension of Stonegate and what are the major cross streets?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 18, 2013, 04:09:38 PM
Great room is simply a better use of the space than the traditional Living Room + Family room.  I look for a better interior design.  We went with Saratoga over Mendocino in large part because Mendocino's interior design is terrible due to the presence of a driveway.

Of course, if all things equal I would like to have a bigger garage and driveway etc but since it's Irvine and I don't have a $1 million laying around, I have to cut back. 

You are the perfect TIC customer. Their marketing has worked wonders convincing the public that backyards, driveways, and sidewalks are only for the rich. LOL...TIC now classifies traditional SFR as luxury homes!

TBF...TIC does a lot of research about what people want.  Interior is probably no. 1 so that's what they use to entice people.   The plans are basically between an attached condo and an SFR...the price is market driven so that what we react to.  SFR is not "luxury" per se but just priced higher.  No one would have an issue if the prices were $200K lower but that's dictated by market forces of supply and demand.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 18, 2013, 05:30:55 PM
the map is the un-built parcel between existing apartment homes, un-built elementary school and freeway 5 in Cypress Village.

Apparently most of the homes will be copies from various other new neighborhoods

A lot more coming...TIC copy machine working overtime..

1. Santa Rosa, 98 units (these look like the same homes in Stonegate East/Woodbury East). These are always built as barriers to a major free way (133 and 5)....

2. Santa Barbara, 116 units (copied from Woodbury..)

3. San Mateo, 102 units (copied from Stonegate...)

4. Garden Court, 80 units (attached/detached condoes from Cal Pac; at least something new I guess).

5. Un-named SFRs, 94 units (2200~2600 sqft). Mendocino copy?

http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031597
http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031598

Is this a map of Cypress Village or an extension of Stonegate and what are the major cross streets?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 18, 2013, 08:53:01 PM
Great room is simply a better use of the space than the traditional Living Room + Family room.  I look for a better interior design.  We went with Saratoga over Mendocino in large part because Mendocino's interior design is terrible due to the presence of a driveway.

Of course, if all things equal I would like to have a bigger garage and driveway etc but since it's Irvine and I don't have a $1 million laying around, I have to cut back. 

You are the perfect TIC customer. Their marketing has worked wonders convincing the public that backyards, driveways, and sidewalks are only for the rich. LOL...TIC now classifies traditional SFR as luxury homes!

TBF...TIC does a lot of research about what people want.  Interior is probably no. 1 so that's what they use to entice people.   The plans are basically between an attached condo and an SFR...the price is market driven so that what we react to.  SFR is not "luxury" per se but just priced higher.  No one would have an issue if the prices were $200K lower but that's dictated by market forces of supply and demand.
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 19, 2013, 12:11:41 AM
Great room is simply a better use of the space than the traditional Living Room + Family room.  I look for a better interior design.  We went with Saratoga over Mendocino in large part because Mendocino's interior design is terrible due to the presence of a driveway.

Of course, if all things equal I would like to have a bigger garage and driveway etc but since it's Irvine and I don't have a $1 million laying around, I have to cut back. 

You are the perfect TIC customer. Their marketing has worked wonders convincing the public that backyards, driveways, and sidewalks are only for the rich. LOL...TIC now classifies traditional SFR as luxury homes!

TBF...TIC does a lot of research about what people want.  Interior is probably no. 1 so that's what they use to entice people.   The plans are basically between an attached condo and an SFR...the price is market driven so that what we react to.  SFR is not "luxury" per se but just priced higher.  No one would have an issue if the prices were $200K lower but that's dictated by market forces of supply and demand.

Although many of my posts on TIC are pretty negative, I believe their master planning has been positive for the city. They did their research and homework for the 2010 Collection and it was a sales and marketing coup. They were leaders regionally and nationally in the revival of the new construction market.

I also like that TIC offers choices: different home sizes, attached/detached, different price points, etc...

The cynical side of me also agrees with IHO. For every branding innovation (i.e. Great Room, California Room, etc...) there was a self-serving monetary benefit for TIC at the expense of lot size/shape:

Yeah...garage size is like no. 500 on my list of needs.  2 is plenty...especially if you have a driveway and curb parking.
Well... garage size isn't just about number of garage ports to me. It also gives you a larger lot size and bigger floorplan footprint.

Do you think TIC went to the Great Room concept only because it's "popular"? Many of these older 3CWG have a Great Room also, but back then it was called Kitchen/Nook/Family Room. In order to maximize land usage, they had to make lots more narrow so the "tandem 3-car garage" born. And then they needed to make lots shallower, so no more room for the tandem.

And you mention driveway and curb parking... those are also victims of land efficiency, hence the motorcourt (ie Cali-Sac).

But I would rather have what they are doing with Mulberry instead of a motorcourt. I always thought that a driveway is more useful than a front yard (and less maintenance).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: kubert13 on April 19, 2013, 09:03:48 AM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

I absolutely love this statement.  Because people continue to buy TIC sees no reason to change.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: socaltrojan81 on April 19, 2013, 09:27:56 AM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

I absolutely love this statement.  Because people continue to buy TIC sees no reason to change.

People continue to buy TIC because there are not many other options. If you look at what was available in Fall 2012 in the 500-700K range, it was the communities in Laguna Altura, Stonegate and PS. 2 of the 3 communities were TIC. I would argue that if there were other options, people would go for it. If you are in the market for a home and you have mostly only TIC homes available then it is very unlikely for a person to say 'I object to TIC's concepts therefore I will wait it out for another 2-3 years'. Highly unlikely.

That being said, I didn't like TIC so I went with a community in PS.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
If you are in the market for a home and you have mostly only TIC homes available then it is very unlikely for a person to say 'I object to TIC's concepts therefore I will wait it out for another 2-3 years'. Highly unlikely.

we did object to TIC and the lack of value proposition in irvine and left irvine, although we didnt really go that far.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 11:09:38 AM
TIC listens to design issues that stunt sales.

That's why a the detached condos in Stonegate and Laguna Altura went with the 3 and 3X and got rid of the 2 because the 2 wasn't selling very well.

They've added walk-in pantries to more models because people like them.

They added driveways to motorcourt homes.

They just won't lower prices. :(
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 19, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
If you are in the market for a home and you have mostly only TIC homes available then it is very unlikely for a person to say 'I object to TIC's concepts therefore I will wait it out for another 2-3 years'. Highly unlikely.

we did object to TIC and the lack of value proposition in irvine and left irvine, although we didnt really go that far.

Exactly. We did, too. Vote with your feet. Simples.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 11:21:08 AM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

That's a little unfair.  What TIC is doing to diversifying the types of homes available.  Previously, it was just attached condos and SFRs and a significant price difference between the two.   Then it became attached condos, detached condos, and SFRs.   Now, they have attached condo, detached condos without driveways, detached condos with driveways, and SFRs.   It's just more choices. ..you figure out what your budget is and buy what you can/want.   

From what I can see, TIC is basically pricing their homes between $500K to $900K and have a level of house every 100K.  I actually appreciate that.  Rather than deciding between condo for 500-600K or a SFR at 800K,  I have a choice who a number of plans and figuring out what my budget is.  Obviously, the business model is making money for TIC but that doesn't mean that I don't win as a consumer. 

Everyone seems to be complaining TIC but in reality they're complaining about prices.  If you want a big SFR with a yard, there are plenty of options in Irvine, you just have to pay for it.  Again, if the prices were $200K less, most people would be fine with it.  It's just the idea of buying a $800K house with no driveway that is a little shocking...if that house is $600K, there would be fewer objections.   

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 11:21:59 AM
TIC listens to design issues that stunt sales.

That's why a the detached condos in Stonegate and Laguna Altura went with the 3 and 3X and got rid of the 2 because the 2 wasn't selling very well.

They've added walk-in pantries to more models because people like them.

They added driveways to motorcourt homes.

They just won't lower prices. :(

Agreed...again the issue is price but that is market driven.   

Also, what appeals to you may not appeal to others.  I am actually okay not having a yard.  I don't have to pay to landscape or maintain it.  I will take my daughter to the park to play so that she can interact with other kids.   
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: evensteven on April 19, 2013, 01:18:35 PM
Out of curiosity does our Saratoga garage face your neighbors garage or into a street? I've been trying to look for photos of the build out but maybe i'll just have to drive by :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 01:30:45 PM

Also, what appeals to you may not appeal to others.  I am actually okay not having a yard.  I don't have to pay to landscape or maintain it.  I will take my daughter to the park to play so that she can interact with other kids.   

if i hadnt argued with Icommuter over the MR thing id almost think he was a TIC shill.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 19, 2013, 01:33:53 PM

Also, what appeals to you may not appeal to others.  I am actually okay not having a yard.  I don't have to pay to landscape or maintain it.  I will take my daughter to the park to play so that she can interact with other kids.   

if i hadnt argued with Icommuter over the MR thing id almost think he was a TIC shill.

I was searching for the right words... but you beat me to it once again. You always read my mind.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 19, 2013, 01:45:03 PM

Also, what appeals to you may not appeal to others.  I am actually okay not having a yard.  I don't have to pay to landscape or maintain it.  I will take my daughter to the park to play so that she can interact with other kids.   

if i hadnt argued with Icommuter over the MR thing id almost think he was a TIC shill.

I was searching for the right words... but you beat me to it once again. You always read my mind.

Even if he is a TIC shill, I welcome him/her to this board. LOL...someone needs to defend TIC since there are so many detractors (myself included).

TIC could care less what we say on this board as long as people continue voting with their wallets. That is why their buying experience sucks and there will be no change in company attitude until competition comes to this local market.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 01:55:38 PM
Out of curiosity does our Saratoga garage face your neighbors garage or into a street? I've been trying to look for photos of the build out but maybe i'll just have to drive by :)

Garage goes into a street so it's not a motorcourt.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 01:57:13 PM

Also, what appeals to you may not appeal to others.  I am actually okay not having a yard.  I don't have to pay to landscape or maintain it.  I will take my daughter to the park to play so that she can interact with other kids.   

if i hadnt argued with Icommuter over the MR thing id almost think he was a TIC shill.

I was searching for the right words... but you beat me to it once again. You always read my mind.

Even if he is a TIC shill, I welcome him/her to this board. LOL...someone needs to defend TIC since there are so many detractors (myself included).

TIC could care less what we say on this board as long as people continue voting with their wallets. That is why their buying experience sucks and there will be no change in company attitude until competition comes to this local market.

Not a shill...on Larry's old site in the Wild days of mid 2006.   Again, I am not saying that TIC is good/bad.  I just don't think that they deserve some of the blame.  It seems like a lot of people want big homes with yards here but no everyone wants or can afford that.

Obviously the lack of competition is not helping with prices/variety but home builders are like airlines in that they are in a race to the bottom. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 02:39:04 PM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

That's a little unfair.  What TIC is doing to diversifying the types of homes available.  Previously, it was just attached condos and SFRs and a significant price difference between the two.   Then it became attached condos, detached condos, and SFRs.   Now, they have attached condo, detached condos without driveways, detached condos with driveways, and SFRs.   It's just more choices. ..you figure out what your budget is and buy what you can/want.   

From what I can see, TIC is basically pricing their homes between $500K to $900K and have a level of house every 100K.  I actually appreciate that.  Rather than deciding between condo for 500-600K or a SFR at 800K,  I have a choice who a number of plans and figuring out what my budget is.  Obviously, the business model is making money for TIC but that doesn't mean that I don't win as a consumer. 

Everyone seems to be complaining TIC but in reality they're complaining about prices.  If you want a big SFR with a yard, there are plenty of options in Irvine, you just have to pay for it.  Again, if the prices were $200K less, most people would be fine with it.  It's just the idea of buying a $800K house with no driveway that is a little shocking...if that house is $600K, there would be fewer objections.
There's also another reason why TIC is building those other in-between units and it's not to give the consumers a choice, it's to make more money.  You do understand that they can fit a lot more homes in a detached motorcourt layout than they can in a traditional SFR layout, right?  But they are selling at nearly the same price/SF since the unit has a "detached" label.  How about them going from a 5-foot to a 3-foot set back...hell why not go to a 6-inch setback (it'd still be detached)?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 02:47:35 PM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

That's a little unfair.  What TIC is doing to diversifying the types of homes available.  Previously, it was just attached condos and SFRs and a significant price difference between the two.   Then it became attached condos, detached condos, and SFRs.   Now, they have attached condo, detached condos without driveways, detached condos with driveways, and SFRs.   It's just more choices. ..you figure out what your budget is and buy what you can/want.   

From what I can see, TIC is basically pricing their homes between $500K to $900K and have a level of house every 100K.  I actually appreciate that.  Rather than deciding between condo for 500-600K or a SFR at 800K,  I have a choice who a number of plans and figuring out what my budget is.  Obviously, the business model is making money for TIC but that doesn't mean that I don't win as a consumer. 

Everyone seems to be complaining TIC but in reality they're complaining about prices.  If you want a big SFR with a yard, there are plenty of options in Irvine, you just have to pay for it.  Again, if the prices were $200K less, most people would be fine with it.  It's just the idea of buying a $800K house with no driveway that is a little shocking...if that house is $600K, there would be fewer objections.
There's also another reason why TIC is building those other in-between units and it's not to give the consumers a choice, it's to make more money.  You do understand that they can fit a lot more homes in a detached motorcourt layout than they can in a traditional SFR layout, right?  But they are selling at nearly the same price/SF since the unit has a "detached" label.  How about them going from a 5-foot to a 3-foot set back...hell why not go to a 6-inch setback (it'd still be detached)?

Yes.  I understand it makes TIC money.  But that doesn't preclude it from being a benefit to me.  The point is that if they just made SFRs, I couldn't afford to buy one.

There is a reason why car makers make a variety of models.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 03:05:50 PM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

That's a little unfair.  What TIC is doing to diversifying the types of homes available.  Previously, it was just attached condos and SFRs and a significant price difference between the two.   Then it became attached condos, detached condos, and SFRs.   Now, they have attached condo, detached condos without driveways, detached condos with driveways, and SFRs.   It's just more choices. ..you figure out what your budget is and buy what you can/want.   

From what I can see, TIC is basically pricing their homes between $500K to $900K and have a level of house every 100K.  I actually appreciate that.  Rather than deciding between condo for 500-600K or a SFR at 800K,  I have a choice who a number of plans and figuring out what my budget is.  Obviously, the business model is making money for TIC but that doesn't mean that I don't win as a consumer. 

Everyone seems to be complaining TIC but in reality they're complaining about prices.  If you want a big SFR with a yard, there are plenty of options in Irvine, you just have to pay for it.  Again, if the prices were $200K less, most people would be fine with it.  It's just the idea of buying a $800K house with no driveway that is a little shocking...if that house is $600K, there would be fewer objections.
There's also another reason why TIC is building those other in-between units and it's not to give the consumers a choice, it's to make more money.  You do understand that they can fit a lot more homes in a detached motorcourt layout than they can in a traditional SFR layout, right?  But they are selling at nearly the same price/SF since the unit has a "detached" label.  How about them going from a 5-foot to a 3-foot set back...hell why not go to a 6-inch setback (it'd still be detached)?

Yes.  I understand it makes TIC money.  But that doesn't preclude it from being a benefit to me.  The point is that if they just made SFRs, I couldn't afford to buy one.

There is a reason why car makers make a variety of models.
How do you benefit from smaller setbacks?  No driveways?  Tiny yards? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
Well... I know TIC listens because I think they invented the California Garage because of my whining.

TIC 1: How do we get that IHO character to stop complaining about the lack of 3CWGs in new homes?
TIC 2: Let's put a little space in the back of the garage, they should help.
TIC 1: What about the backyard?
TIC 2: That irvinecommuter person doesn't like them anyways... he'll take his kid to the park.

:)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 03:19:30 PM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

That's a little unfair.  What TIC is doing to diversifying the types of homes available.  Previously, it was just attached condos and SFRs and a significant price difference between the two.   Then it became attached condos, detached condos, and SFRs.   Now, they have attached condo, detached condos without driveways, detached condos with driveways, and SFRs.   It's just more choices. ..you figure out what your budget is and buy what you can/want.   

From what I can see, TIC is basically pricing their homes between $500K to $900K and have a level of house every 100K.  I actually appreciate that.  Rather than deciding between condo for 500-600K or a SFR at 800K,  I have a choice who a number of plans and figuring out what my budget is.  Obviously, the business model is making money for TIC but that doesn't mean that I don't win as a consumer. 

Everyone seems to be complaining TIC but in reality they're complaining about prices.  If you want a big SFR with a yard, there are plenty of options in Irvine, you just have to pay for it.  Again, if the prices were $200K less, most people would be fine with it.  It's just the idea of buying a $800K house with no driveway that is a little shocking...if that house is $600K, there would be fewer objections.
There's also another reason why TIC is building those other in-between units and it's not to give the consumers a choice, it's to make more money.  You do understand that they can fit a lot more homes in a detached motorcourt layout than they can in a traditional SFR layout, right?  But they are selling at nearly the same price/SF since the unit has a "detached" label.  How about them going from a 5-foot to a 3-foot set back...hell why not go to a 6-inch setback (it'd still be detached)?

Yes.  I understand it makes TIC money.  But that doesn't preclude it from being a benefit to me.  The point is that if they just made SFRs, I couldn't afford to buy one.

There is a reason why car makers make a variety of models.
How do you benefit from smaller setbacks?  No driveways?  Tiny yards?

Cheaper price...I don't get a yard or drive but I get a 2200 square foot detached house.   I can get a SFR, but it will cost me $80,000 more.  Or I can get a smaller detach condo for $100K less.

Right now at Stonegate you can get

$400K:  Attached Condo 1300-1600 sq. feet (Santa Maria)
$500K:  Attached condo  1500-1600 sq. feet (Cambria)
$600K:  Detach condo 1600-1800 sq. feet (San Mateo)
$700K:  Detach condo 1900-2200 sq. feet (Saratoga)
$800K:  SFR 2200-2400 sq. feet (Mendocino). 

I chose Saratgoa because it's relative large house with a good floor plan and I didn't want to pay the extra $80K for Mendocino.  I could have chosen to get a smaller place at San Mateo for $100K less.  If I want a large yard and driveway, I would have to pay $900K or more with a resale.

I am not saying that the TIC cares about me, they clearly don't.  But they are business people and have to design and produce a product that people want.  The lack of competition helps but in the end, you still need to deliver a product that people want. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
Oh you mean how they the detached condo lots with driveways have $30k-$50k premiums and are sold faster than any other units?  It's because buyers don't stand up and say NO that allows TIC to offer less and less at higher prices.  Hell, they are marketing a motorcourt as a "california court" now...what's next?

That's a little unfair.  What TIC is doing to diversifying the types of homes available.  Previously, it was just attached condos and SFRs and a significant price difference between the two.   Then it became attached condos, detached condos, and SFRs.   Now, they have attached condo, detached condos without driveways, detached condos with driveways, and SFRs.   It's just more choices. ..you figure out what your budget is and buy what you can/want.   

From what I can see, TIC is basically pricing their homes between $500K to $900K and have a level of house every 100K.  I actually appreciate that.  Rather than deciding between condo for 500-600K or a SFR at 800K,  I have a choice who a number of plans and figuring out what my budget is.  Obviously, the business model is making money for TIC but that doesn't mean that I don't win as a consumer. 

Everyone seems to be complaining TIC but in reality they're complaining about prices.  If you want a big SFR with a yard, there are plenty of options in Irvine, you just have to pay for it.  Again, if the prices were $200K less, most people would be fine with it.  It's just the idea of buying a $800K house with no driveway that is a little shocking...if that house is $600K, there would be fewer objections.
There's also another reason why TIC is building those other in-between units and it's not to give the consumers a choice, it's to make more money.  You do understand that they can fit a lot more homes in a detached motorcourt layout than they can in a traditional SFR layout, right?  But they are selling at nearly the same price/SF since the unit has a "detached" label.  How about them going from a 5-foot to a 3-foot set back...hell why not go to a 6-inch setback (it'd still be detached)?

Yes.  I understand it makes TIC money.  But that doesn't preclude it from being a benefit to me.  The point is that if they just made SFRs, I couldn't afford to buy one.

There is a reason why car makers make a variety of models.
How do you benefit from smaller setbacks?  No driveways?  Tiny yards?

Cheaper price...I don't get a yard or drive but I get a 2200 square foot detached house.   I can get a SFR, but it will cost me $80,000 more.  Or I can get a smaller detach condo for $100K less.

Right now at Stonegate you can get

$400K:  Attached Condo 1300-1600 sq. feet (Santa Maria)
$500K:  Attached condo  1500-1600 sq. feet (Cambria)
$600K:  Detach condo 1600-1800 sq. feet (San Mateo)
$700K:  Detach condo 1900-2200 sq. feet (Saratoga)
$800K:  SFR 2200-2400 sq. feet (Mendocino). 

I chose Saratgoa because it's relative large house with a good floor plan and I didn't want to pay the extra $80K for Mendocino.  I could have chosen to get a smaller place at San Mateo for $100K less.  If I want a large yard and driveway, I would have to pay $900K or more with a resale.

I am not saying that the TIC cares about me, they clearly don't.  But they are business people and have to design and produce a product that people want.  The lack of competition helps but in the end, you still need to deliver a product that people want.
You might want to raise those prices up by $75k-$100k across the board.   People want the location so they'll take what TIC gives them because they are basically the only show in town with the city in their back pocket.  Besides that, the lack of innovation kind of sad too...why not design some more unique homes instead of turning the copier on and either shrinking or supersizing basically the same floor plan?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 03:23:18 PM
Well... I know TIC listens because I think they invented the California Garage because of my whining.

TIC 1: How do we get that IHO character to stop complaining about the lack of 3CWGs in new homes?
TIC 2: Let's put a little space in the back of the garage, they should help.
TIC 1: What about the backyard?
TIC 2: That irvinecommuter person doesn't like them anyways... he'll take his kid to the park.

:)

YARD EVIL!  Seriously though...I was invited to a TIC research group but was unable to go.  They were going to pay $150 for me to show up and eat their food in return for a couple hours of my time and opinion.  I know others on this board have been invited and actually gone.

The point is that not everyone likes the same things.  I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.  We have no use for a yard other than a BBQ grill.  We rather spend our money buying more living space and paid extra for the conservatory as opposed to having a yard. 

I like the concepts that TIC is putting because it does allow for some customization rather than the old take what we designed concept.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 03:25:36 PM
You might want to raise those prices up by $75k-$100k across the board.   People want the location so they'll take what TIC gives them because they are basically the only show in town with the city in their back pocket.  Besides that, the lack of innovation kind of sad too...why not design some more unique homes instead of turning the copier on and either shrinking or supersizing basically the same floor plan?

Agreed but again, that's pricing not design or concept.  Pricing is a function of market forces.  If the resell market was normal, TIC couldn't charge those higher price but the market is not normal.  Also, the price rises are just in the past 6 months or so.  Saratoga plan 1 started at mid $600s and are now low $700Ks...increase about $50K in about 6 months...that's market prices...concept and homes remain the same.

As to the plans, it's cheaper to manufacture similar floor plans..obviously custom homes are more expensive than cookie cutters.  Also, maybe because people like the plans?  Camrys are boring and not sexy but people buy a lot of them.  Not everyone can afford Porsches or BMWs.  Sometimes, you just want a functional house with a good layout.  Just because they're "cookie cutter" doesn't make them bad.  Even when TIC does come up with new things, people here mock them are trivial. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 03:29:34 PM
Out of curiosity does our Saratoga garage face your neighbors garage or into a street? I've been trying to look for photos of the build out but maybe i'll just have to drive by :)

Garage goes into a street so it's not a motorcourt.
Is that a real street with a curb, sidewalk and grass... or like a private street?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.
Hold. Isn't the California Room supposed to be an outdoor space that doesn't expose you to the elements (sun/rain) because it's covered?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
You might want to raise those prices up by $75k-$100k across the board.   People want the location so they'll take what TIC gives them because they are basically the only show in town with the city in their back pocket.  Besides that, the lack of innovation kind of sad too...why not design some more unique homes instead of turning the copier on and either shrinking or supersizing basically the same floor plan?

Agreed but again, that's pricing not design or concept.  Pricing is a function of market forces.  If the resell market was normal, TIC couldn't charge those higher price but the market is not normal.  Also, the price rises are just in the past 6 months or so.  Saratoga plan 1 started at mid $600s and are now low $700Ks...increase about $50K in about 6 months...that's market prices...concept and homes remain the same.

As to the plans, it's cheaper to manufacture similar floor plans..obviously custom homes are more expensive than cookie cutters.  Also, maybe because people like the plans?  Camrys are boring and not sexy but people buy a lot of them.  Not everyone can afford Porsches or BMWs.  Sometimes, you just want a functional house with a good layout.  Just because they're "cookie cutter" doesn't make them bad.  Even when TIC does come up with new things, people here mock them are trivial. 
You understand that land is a lot more valuable than the structure that is built on it, right?  They probably bump those houses out at $70-$80/sf.  So would you be OK with 6-inch setbacks with no driveway, yard, and garage  as long as it was a "detached" unit (because that's where we are heading)? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 03:34:08 PM
Out of curiosity does our Saratoga garage face your neighbors garage or into a street? I've been trying to look for photos of the build out but maybe i'll just have to drive by :)

Garage goes into a street so it's not a motorcourt.
Is that a real street with a curb, sidewalk and grass... or like a private street?

I believe it's just asphalt...I have a 2X so the front door leads into a sidewalk rather than the street.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 03:39:07 PM
You might want to raise those prices up by $75k-$100k across the board.   People want the location so they'll take what TIC gives them because they are basically the only show in town with the city in their back pocket.  Besides that, the lack of innovation kind of sad too...why not design some more unique homes instead of turning the copier on and either shrinking or supersizing basically the same floor plan?

Agreed but again, that's pricing not design or concept.  Pricing is a function of market forces.  If the resell market was normal, TIC couldn't charge those higher price but the market is not normal.  Also, the price rises are just in the past 6 months or so.  Saratoga plan 1 started at mid $600s and are now low $700Ks...increase about $50K in about 6 months...that's market prices...concept and homes remain the same.

As to the plans, it's cheaper to manufacture similar floor plans..obviously custom homes are more expensive than cookie cutters.  Also, maybe because people like the plans?  Camrys are boring and not sexy but people buy a lot of them.  Not everyone can afford Porsches or BMWs.  Sometimes, you just want a functional house with a good layout.  Just because they're "cookie cutter" doesn't make them bad.  Even when TIC does come up with new things, people here mock them are trivial. 
You understand that land is a lot more valuable than the structure that is built on it, right?  They probably bump those houses out at $70-$80/sf.  So would you be OK with 6-inch setbacks with no driveway, yard, and garage  as long as it was a "detached" unit (because that's where we are heading)?

Am I okay with it?  It is a trade off I made to have more living space.  If TIC made a standard SFR with regular set backs, the house would cost a lot more and thus price me out.  That's kinda of the point, I can pay more to get all the amenities or pay less and prioritize my preferences.  It is no different than picking what model of car I want to buy.  I can chose a smaller car but more amenities or get a bigger car without as much amenities.  Or I can pay a lot get the bigger car with all the amenities and the awesome engine.   

For example, with the conservatory...my Saratoga with a corner lot (1 neighbor) will be about 2400 square feet at about $800K (not including options).  At Lambert Ranch, the smallest model is about 2700 square feet but costs about $1+ million.  Granted, LR doesn't have Mello Roos but Stonegate is in a better location IMO.

Again, there seems to be a feeling that just because TIC makes a lot of money doing this that it's evil.  It may be but I still get more choices.  I have gone to all of the new opening since Woodbury and the price range difference between a detach condo and SFR were often $300-400K more (or even more)...there were a few detached condos but they weren't that much cheaper than SFRs.  So either I had to settle for a cramp attached condo or get a crazy loan so I can get a SFR. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.
Hold. Isn't the California Room supposed to be an outdoor space that doesn't expose you to the elements (sun/rain) because it's covered?

It has a roof but no walls...so you still get a lot of sun.  My wife (and many Asian women) would prefer full enclosure without exposure to sunlight.  (Trellis and yard would be out of the question).
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.
Hold. Isn't the California Room supposed to be an outdoor space that doesn't expose you to the elements (sun/rain) because it's covered?

It has a roof but no walls...so you still get a lot of sun.  My wife (and many Asian women) would prefer full enclosure without exposure to sunlight.  (Trellis and yard would be out of the question).
Seems like with such small lots and close neighbors, the sun would have to be at a precise angle to hit the entire interior space of the Cali Room. Noontime or late afternoon, you shouldn't have much issue with sun exposure.

(no need to respond... just thinking out loud)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: socaltrojan81 on April 19, 2013, 04:24:21 PM
If you are in the market for a home and you have mostly only TIC homes available then it is very unlikely for a person to say 'I object to TIC's concepts therefore I will wait it out for another 2-3 years'. Highly unlikely.

we did object to TIC and the lack of value proposition in irvine and left irvine, although we didnt really go that far.

Exactly. We did, too. Vote with your feet. Simples.

Sure.. that is, if you don't mind moving out of Irvine. If you want to stay in Irvine then you have very few options unless you are willing to expand your budget significantly.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 19, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.
Hold. Isn't the California Room supposed to be an outdoor space that doesn't expose you to the elements (sun/rain) because it's covered?

It has a roof but no walls...so you still get a lot of sun.  My wife (and many Asian women) would prefer full enclosure without exposure to sunlight.  (Trellis and yard would be out of the question).
Seems like with such small lots and close neighbors, the sun would have to be at a precise angle to hit the entire interior space of the Cali Room. Noontime or late afternoon, you shouldn't have much issue with sun exposure.

(no need to respond... just thinking out loud)

I think people who got the Cali room want to be outdoors without getting sun.  Why put up an umbrella when you can have a roof? 

Plus makes it easier to put out nice patio furniture and not get ruined by the elements.  I look at some of the outdoor furniture at Pottery Barn and Crate and Barrel and think to myself it's nicer than what I have indoors.  How the heck would I keep that outdoors
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: zovall on April 19, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
If you want to stay in Irvine then you have very few options unless you are willing to expand your budget significantly.

Especially if you consider these to be compromises:
- Zero lot line homes
- Motor courts
- No driveways or driveways so small you can't fit a car on it
- Detached condos
- "tight" 2 car garages or tandem garages
- 3 stories
- must move cars to get garbage cans in/out
- tiny, if any, yards
- high mello roos
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
If you want to stay in Irvine then you have very few options unless you are willing to expand your budget significantly.

Especially if you consider these to be compromises:
- Zero lot line homes
- Motor courts
- No driveways or driveways so small you can't fit a car on it
- Detached condos
- "tight" 2 car garages or tandem garages
- 3 stories
- must move cars to get garbage cans in/out
- tiny, if any, yards
- high mello roos

This is why USC says the city is run by TIC. The city is supposed to be master planned with regular homes and apartments. Then TIC started getting all of these variances and now you have the ghettofication of the newer parts of irvine.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:43:33 PM
I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.
Hold. Isn't the California Room supposed to be an outdoor space that doesn't expose you to the elements (sun/rain) because it's covered?

It has a roof but no walls...so you still get a lot of sun.  My wife (and many Asian women) would prefer full enclosure without exposure to sunlight.  (Trellis and yard would be out of the question).
Seems like with such small lots and close neighbors, the sun would have to be at a precise angle to hit the entire interior space of the Cali Room. Noontime or late afternoon, you shouldn't have much issue with sun exposure.

(no need to respond... just thinking out loud)

I think people who got the Cali room want to be outdoors without getting sun.  Why put up an umbrella when you can have a roof? 

Plus makes it easier to put out nice patio furniture and not get ruined by the elements.  I look at some of the outdoor furniture at Pottery Barn and Crate and Barrel and think to myself it's nicer than what I have indoors.  How the heck would I keep that outdoors

The thing is that for a few thousand more, you add 150-200 square feet of living space...at $350 a square feet, that's some serious money.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 04:45:41 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
If you want to stay in Irvine then you have very few options unless you are willing to expand your budget significantly.

Especially if you consider these to be compromises:
- Zero lot line homes
- Motor courts
- No driveways or driveways so small you can't fit a car on it
- Detached condos
- "tight" 2 car garages or tandem garages
- 3 stories
- must move cars to get garbage cans in/out
- tiny, if any, yards
- high mello roos

This is why USC says the city is run by TIC. The city is supposed to be master planned with regular homes and apartments. Then TIC started getting all of these variances and now you have the ghettofication of the newer parts of irvine.

I truly disagree.  It is still master planned.  The lot sizes are smaller but that's been the trend...houses built in the 50s and 60s have bigger lots than those in the 70 and 80s...houses built in the 90s and 2000s are even smaller. 

The truth of the matter is that with prices at where they are today...it is very difficult to afford a SFR with a traditional lot in Irvine.  You either have to get a smaller SFR or go to a location that is not as desirable.  By choosing to buy in Irvine and specifically Stonegate/Woodbury, a buyer elects location over things like yard or driveway.  Again, I picked location, interior space/floor plan, and newness to bigger lot size and "unique" plans.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:46:52 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
I don't think the Cali room sq ftg qualifies as part of the sq ftg of the house.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high?
It's not the quality beautiful homes that the people are buying...it's the location, schools, and safety that they are buying.  Their product is inferior to out builder's products....Las Ventanas and Lambert Ranch are two great examples. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high? 
Well... to be PC... maybe I should have said "different" product.

You said it yourself, to buy an SFR on a large lot with "traditional" SFR features would cost more... they cost more because people want them, and that's how you keep demand in resale going.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 04:49:59 PM
I don't think the Cali room sq ftg qualifies as part of the sq ftg of the house.
Nope, it sure doesn't.  It was to be fully enclosed with walls to be counted as additional SF. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:53:24 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high?
It's not the quality beautiful homes that the people are buying...it's the location, schools, and safety that they are buying.  Their product is inferior to out builder's products....Las Ventanas and Lambert Ranch are two great examples.

Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high? 

Inferior to TIC pre 2000. Unfortunately in irvine they are a monopoly so they can build  non traditional sfrs (tiny lots and no driveway) and people want new so their only option is TIC
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high? 
Well... to be PC... maybe I should have said "different" product.

You said it yourself, to buy an SFR on a large lot with "traditional" SFR features would cost more... they cost more because people want them, and that's how you keep demand in resale going.

Fair enough.  I really think that TIC targeted the $500K-$800K range, especially 600K to 700K...it was a market that was not targeted before.  A lot $400-$500K attached condos or $800K SFRs.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
I've always contended that TIC purposely builds new inferior product to keep demand (and value) high on resale product.

They build new inferior product cause they can maximize their profits that way and the suckers keep buying

Inferior compared to who? And how would building "inferior" home keep demand high? 

Inferior to TIC pre 2000. Unfortunately in irvine they are a monopoly so they can build  non traditional sfrs (tiny lots and no driveway) and people want new so their only option is TIC

I have seen pre-2000 TIC homes and often didn't care for the floor plans.  I like the great room and open concept.  Many of the older plans have too many walls and defined rooms.   

Again, non-traditional SFRs are to meet a price point...you can go buy a SFR like Lambert Ranch if you can afford a $1+ million home.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 04:58:40 PM
Fair enough.  I really think that TIC targeted the $500K-$800K range, especially 600K to 700K...it was a market that was not targeted before.  A lot $400-$500K attached condos or $800K SFRs.
Since 2010... I think there has been some tract that fit into all price ranges... they may have not all been by TIC, but there was at least one new project on the Ranch that was in the different ranges.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
I don't think the Cali room sq ftg qualifies as part of the sq ftg of the house.
Nope, it sure doesn't.  It was to be fully enclosed with walls to be counted as additional SF.

That's why it makes more sense to me to get the conservatory for a few thousand more.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 05:00:28 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right. Like judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense it's not true
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jayl23 on April 19, 2013, 05:01:10 PM
I find the California Room totally useless cause my sun-fearing wife would never sit outside in the sun.
Hold. Isn't the California Room supposed to be an outdoor space that doesn't expose you to the elements (sun/rain) because it's covered?

It has a roof but no walls...so you still get a lot of sun.  My wife (and many Asian women) would prefer full enclosure without exposure to sunlight.  (Trellis and yard would be out of the question).

Hehe, of course, they wouldn't want to have to wear these in their home!!   :D

(http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00lvCtBPURgKpe/Solar-Face-Shield-UV-Protection-Visor-WD122-.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 05:01:57 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right. Like judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense it's not true
He better say that the floor plans sucked compared to TIC's floor plans because he is only interested about the interior of the home, not the location. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:03:26 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  With the conservatory there is a lot of open space in the great room area and you get four bedrooms with four baths.   

Even the Sage (by KB) is selling in the high $600K for 1,600 square feet.  The model 2 costs about the same as Saratoga and is about 350 square feet smaller requires an upgrade to get 4 bedrooms.

It's a balance.  You pick things that are important to you and start knocking off stuff you don't think you absolutely need until you get to a price range you can afford.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:04:08 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right. Like judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense it's not true
He better say that the floor plans sucked compared to TIC's floor plans because he is only interested about the interior of the home, not the location.

When did I say that? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 05:06:20 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehusky on April 19, 2013, 05:10:32 PM
Wow, USC, you are in a foul mood/combative today.  I like it.   :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 05:12:19 PM
Wow, USC, you are in a foul mood/combative today.  I like it.   :P
I'm an opinionated European...what can I say?   8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 05:14:22 PM
Today USC = the Polish Rifle
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:14:49 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 19, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Wow, USC, you are in a foul mood/combative today.  I like it.   :P

It means his B.S. Detector is calibrating.  :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 05:20:39 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.
I'll buy the personal prefernce part but to say that it's warmer than Stonegate/Woodbury is laughable consideing that LV is les than 1 mile from Stonegate and 1-2 miles from Woodbury.  Funny how Taylor Morrison was able to sell real SFR homes in the $600k-$700k range.  Btw, Saratoga is a stone's throw away from LV...check out google maps.   :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:26:06 PM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.
I'll buy the personal prefernce part but to say that it's warmer than Stonegate/Woodbury is laughable consideing that LV is les than 1 mile from Stonegate and 1-2 miles from Woodbury.  Funny how Taylor Morrison was able to sell real SFR homes in the $600k-$700k range.  Btw, Saratoga is a stone's throw away from LV...check out google maps.   :P

1)  Because TM sold in the middle of 2012.  Again, the price of the Sage is indicative of the current pricing at PS.  Saratoga plan 1 started at mid $600Ks.

2)  Obviously I don't have temperature readings and studies..again personal feelings.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jayl23 on April 19, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
Perhaps warmer = right under an active landfill?    ;)
That's my main reason for not even considering PS.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on April 19, 2013, 05:30:28 PM
Perhaps warmer = right under an active landfill?    ;)
That's my main reason for not even considering PS.
Far enough, but let's not try to make Stonegate out to be Quail Hill.   :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 19, 2013, 05:33:15 PM
Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.

It's a lot warmer 1 mile down the street... what??
By any chance, is your builder running a "Refer A Friend" program?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: woodburyowner on April 19, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
I'll buy the personal prefernce part but to say that it's warmer than Stonegate/Woodbury is laughable consideing that LV is les than 1 mile from Stonegate and 1-2 miles from Woodbury.  Funny how Taylor Morrison was able to sell real SFR homes in the $600k-$700k range.  Btw, Saratoga is a stone's throw away from LV...check out google maps.   :P

I would have to agree that it does feel warmer around PS than Woodbury.  Maybe the hills are blocking the wind around PS?  Not sure what it is, but I have felt the difference during my many visits to PS.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
The northeastern most part of stonegate can't be more than half a mile away from the western most part of portola springs, if that
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:37:16 PM
Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.

It's a lot warmer 1 mile down the street... what??
By any chance, is your builder running a "Refer A Friend" program?

Again...it's my personal feeling.  I don't like the look of PS (hillside houses) and always felt the area was warmer and dustier than Woodbury/Stonegate.  I don't have studies or evidence to back it up.  My personal feelings. 

I am pretty sure that very few builders need a Refer a Friend program, especially TIC at Stonegate.  Also, not a builder shill.  TIC builds houses up in PS as well. 

Also...PS has the same lot issue as Saratoga: 

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/27-Habitat-92618/home/21932403

3500 square foot lot.  $399 a square foot.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jayl23 on April 19, 2013, 05:39:19 PM
Microclimate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microclimate

"Another contributing factor to microclimate is the slope or aspect of an area. South-facing slopes in the Northern Hemisphere and north-facing slopes in the Southern Hemisphere are exposed to more direct sunlight than opposite slopes and are therefore warmer for longer."

Very plausible... some of us are more temperature sensitive.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 19, 2013, 05:42:15 PM
Irvinecommuter,

Congratulations on your Saratoga home. I'm sure you have done the calculus and will be happy in your new home.

Like you have said, people value different things and you make choices based on those values. Unlike you, there are some buyers who do value driveways, yards, and sidewalks versus simply detached/interior space considerations. The increasing prices only make these type of homes seem more of a sacrifice than a bargain.

Also long term, I can't see this bubble pricing continue in Irvine. When all the dust settles, I believe certain product innovations by TIC will not stand the test of time. Their resale value will be hurt relative to some of the more traditional SFR setups/neighborhoods.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 19, 2013, 05:48:31 PM
I don't think the Cali room sq ftg qualifies as part of the sq ftg of the house.
Nope, it sure doesn't.  It was to be fully enclosed with walls to be counted as additional SF.

That's why it makes more sense to me to get the conservatory for a few thousand more.

If I remember it was either 13K for Cali and 20K for Conservatory.   Or that's what it was when they quoted me.  That's a pretty big gap.


As for the sq footage.  If you move to the Inland Empire, you can get a 4200 + sq foot home for 500K.  Go further out to Moreno Valley and you'll be living in a mansion.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:49:15 PM
Irvinecommuter,

Congratulations on your Saratoga home. I'm sure you have done the calculus and will be happy in your new home.

Like you have said, people value different things and you make choices based on those values. Unlike you, there are some buyers who do value driveways, yards, and sidewalks versus simply detached/interior space considerations. The increasing prices only make these type of homes seem more of a sacrifice than a bargain.

Also long term, I can't see this bubble pricing continue in Irvine. When all the dust settles, I believe certain product innovations by TIC will not stand the test of time. Their resale value will be hurt relative to some of the more traditional SFR setups/neighborhoods.

Thanks.  Trust me...I want a driveway considering the wife will be parking in the garage.  But I like having the big house with an open floor plan.  Having the corner lot also helps.   

I definitely agree with the second point.  I do feel that there is a cultural difference at play.  A lot Asians I know don't use their backyard at all.  My parents had a huge lot but almost never used it.  Similar with garages (and to some extent driveways).  A lot of people like garages for working on cars or doing projects...I for one would do neither.  Garage will be for car and storage.  No band saws or auto tools.   I wouldn't be surprised if TIC found that most of their potential buyers were individuals who do not value either a yard or garage work space.

As to whether they will stand the test of time...it depends on whether people prefer location versus size.  Obviously, a house with a driveway is better than one without but what about a house without a driveway but 300-400 square feet bigger?  Choices. 

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 19, 2013, 05:50:00 PM
I don't think the Cali room sq ftg qualifies as part of the sq ftg of the house.
Nope, it sure doesn't.  It was to be fully enclosed with walls to be counted as additional SF.

That's why it makes more sense to me to get the conservatory for a few thousand more.

If I remember it was either 13K for Cali and 20K for Conservatory.   Or that's what it was when they quoted me.  That's a pretty big gap.

It was $9,000 and $16,000 for us.  $7,000 difference now...at least $50,000 later.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 19, 2013, 05:58:53 PM
Irvinecommuter,

Congratulations on your Saratoga home. I'm sure you have done the calculus and will be happy in your new home.

Like you have said, people value different things and you make choices based on those values. Unlike you, there are some buyers who do value driveways, yards, and sidewalks versus simply detached/interior space considerations. The increasing prices only make these type of homes seem more of a sacrifice than a bargain.

Also long term, I can't see this bubble pricing continue in Irvine. When all the dust settles, I believe certain product innovations by TIC will not stand the test of time. Their resale value will be hurt relative to some of the more traditional SFR setups/neighborhoods.

Thanks.  Trust me...I want a driveway considering the wife will be parking in the garage.  But I like having the big house with an open floor plan.  Having the corner lot also helps.   

I definitely agree with the second point.  I do feel that there is a cultural difference at play.  A lot Asians I know don't use their backyard at all.  My parents had a huge lot but almost never used it.  Similar with garages (and to some extent driveways).  A lot of people like garages for working on cars or doing projects...I for one would do neither.  Garage will be for car and storage.  No band saws or auto tools.   I wouldn't be surprised if TIC found that most of their potential buyers were individuals who do not value either a yard or garage work space.

As to whether they will stand the test of time...it depends on whether people prefer location versus size.  Obviously, a house with a driveway is better than one without but what about a house without a driveway but 300-400 square feet bigger?  Choices.

Asians...especially old school ones want to turn the back yard into a vegetable farm or like a zen garden to look at but never use.  Most of the Asians want drive ways so they can turn their garage into super storage places.  Sucks for the motor court visitors because you have to park so far out because no one is using their garage.  I was walking around San Marcos the other day and the street parking was completely full.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 19, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
For the record, I think Stonegate is a better location than Portola Springs too.

It may only be 1.5 miles but that adds up... and currently, both school and shopping is much closer is SG than in PS.

Las Ventanas also had that toll road above it which was an issue for us.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on April 19, 2013, 06:14:38 PM
For sure...those extra street lights add minutes to the commute.  Especially with that extra light they installed on Sand Canyon that goes off randomly.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on April 20, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
Think of a cookie sheet like a piece of land and you own a pretzel shop. Each time you bake you must fill the entire tray with dough until you see no exposed foil.  You also would want bake the biggest pretzel to sell for the most money.

Irvinecommuter,

Congratulations on your Saratoga home. I'm sure you have done the calculus and will be happy in your new home.

Like you have said, people value different things and you make choices based on those values. Unlike you, there are some buyers who do value driveways, yards, and sidewalks versus simply detached/interior space considerations. The increasing prices only make these type of homes seem more of a sacrifice than a bargain.

Also long term, I can't see this bubble pricing continue in Irvine. When all the dust settles, I believe certain product innovations by TIC will not stand the test of time. Their resale value will be hurt relative to some of the more traditional SFR setups/neighborhoods.

Thanks.  Trust me...I want a driveway considering the wife will be parking in the garage.  But I like having the big house with an open floor plan.  Having the corner lot also helps.   

I definitely agree with the second point.  I do feel that there is a cultural difference at play.  A lot Asians I know don't use their backyard at all.  My parents had a huge lot but almost never used it.  Similar with garages (and to some extent driveways).  A lot of people like garages for working on cars or doing projects...I for one would do neither.  Garage will be for car and storage.  No band saws or auto tools.   I wouldn't be surprised if TIC found that most of their potential buyers were individuals who do not value either a yard or garage work space.

As to whether they will stand the test of time...it depends on whether people prefer location versus size.  Obviously, a house with a driveway is better than one without but what about a house without a driveway but 300-400 square feet bigger?  Choices. 


Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: NYT on April 21, 2013, 10:27:10 AM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.

If it's a larger home but more expensive, that's not "overpriced". It's appropriately priced. It may be a larger home than you need, but don't say that it's overpriced simply because you can't afford it.

Also, while I haven't done the calculations, I can't imagine that there's a significant price difference between Stonegate+MR and Lambert Ranch without MR spread over a 30 year mortgage.

The distance between LR and Stonegate is minor at best. You may perceive a different climate, but there isn't.

I looked to buy a new home in Irvine for 3+ years. The locations I looked at ranged from Laguna Altura to Portola Springs (and even outside Irvine, as far north as Brea and as far south as Ladera Ranch). For my needs, Lambert Ranch was the best (the main factor being that TIC floorplans didn't meet my needs and I subjectively found them as boring as could be). For your needs, Stonegate was obviously best. But to say that LR is overpriced is just not true ("overpriced" isn't the same as "I can't afford"), nor is it to say that there is a different climate in LR compared with Stonegate.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 22, 2013, 09:59:00 AM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.

If it's a larger home but more expensive, that's not "overpriced". It's appropriately priced. It may be a larger home than you need, but don't say that it's overpriced simply because you can't afford it.

Also, while I haven't done the calculations, I can't imagine that there's a significant price difference between Stonegate+MR and Lambert Ranch without MR spread over a 30 year mortgage.

The distance between LR and Stonegate is minor at best. You may perceive a different climate, but there isn't.

I looked to buy a new home in Irvine for 3+ years. The locations I looked at ranged from Laguna Altura to Portola Springs (and even outside Irvine, as far north as Brea and as far south as Ladera Ranch). For my needs, Lambert Ranch was the best (the main factor being that TIC floorplans didn't meet my needs and I subjectively found them as boring as could be). For your needs, Stonegate was obviously best. But to say that LR is overpriced is just not true ("overpriced" isn't the same as "I can't afford"), nor is it to say that there is a different climate in LR compared with Stonegate.

Agreed.  Overprice was not the right terminology.  Affordability.

As to the climate, it's just my personal opinion.  Everytime I have visited PS, I feel it to be warmer.  It's not scientific.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: dealcatcher on April 22, 2013, 10:25:40 AM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.

If it's a larger home but more expensive, that's not "overpriced". It's appropriately priced. It may be a larger home than you need, but don't say that it's overpriced simply because you can't afford it.

Also, while I haven't done the calculations, I can't imagine that there's a significant price difference between Stonegate+MR and Lambert Ranch without MR spread over a 30 year mortgage.

The distance between LR and Stonegate is minor at best. You may perceive a different climate, but there isn't.

I looked to buy a new home in Irvine for 3+ years. The locations I looked at ranged from Laguna Altura to Portola Springs (and even outside Irvine, as far north as Brea and as far south as Ladera Ranch). For my needs, Lambert Ranch was the best (the main factor being that TIC floorplans didn't meet my needs and I subjectively found them as boring as could be). For your needs, Stonegate was obviously best. But to say that LR is overpriced is just not true ("overpriced" isn't the same as "I can't afford"), nor is it to say that there is a different climate in LR compared with Stonegate.

Agreed.  Overprice was not the right terminology.  Affordability.

As to the climate, it's just my personal opinion.  Everytime I have visited PS, I feel it to be warmer.  It's not scientific.

I actually did numerous tests on the temperature difference between Portola Springs, Stonegate, and Woodbury. This test included both daytime and nightime tests during different seasons of the year (over the past year and a half). Results of my test was that there was rarely ever a temperature difference between these communities. I also included the Irvine Spectrum as part of my test and only saw a 1 degree difference on some days. This wasn't enough to notice.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: zubs on April 22, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
Sometimes it's just in your head...and that makes a difference.  Stonegate does feel cooler, because it's in the shadows of the landfill projects.  I know it's just in my head, but perception is reality.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: villagepeople on April 22, 2013, 10:31:45 AM


Yes but that's also important considerations.  I went to both LV and LR and didn't care for either one. 

Let me get this right, you did not care for LV or LR, but you loved Saratoga?  Right.

Clarification:  LR looked great but seriously seriously overpriced.

I went to see LV a while back and didn't care for it all that much.  Also, being in Portola Spring was not great for me.

I don't love Saratoga and wouldn't buy it if I couldn't get the conservatory.  But again, you prioritize.
How the hell is LR overpriced?  It's about the same per SF cost as a similar TIC home but without Mello Roos.  You just said earlier that your main interest in the home is the interior and not the location.  Those Las Ventanas homes are about 1/2 mile from your Saratoga home and both of them are in Irvine...so what's the issue?

1)  There is a level of affordability when you get into $1 million.  Overpriced in that I don't need a 2700 square feet house for $1 million....I am fine with a 2400 square house for $800K.

2)  I don't think I have ever said that location is not important.  I am paying a premium to live in Irvine and in Stonegate...the location cost premiums are are factored in.  Portola Spring is about 1.5 miles away from Stonegate and not close to any shopping areas.  It is also set in a hilly/valley area and a lot warmer to me than Woodbury/Stonegate.  It's a personal preference, I just don't care for Portola Spring.

If it's a larger home but more expensive, that's not "overpriced". It's appropriately priced. It may be a larger home than you need, but don't say that it's overpriced simply because you can't afford it.

Also, while I haven't done the calculations, I can't imagine that there's a significant price difference between Stonegate+MR and Lambert Ranch without MR spread over a 30 year mortgage.

The distance between LR and Stonegate is minor at best. You may perceive a different climate, but there isn't.

I looked to buy a new home in Irvine for 3+ years. The locations I looked at ranged from Laguna Altura to Portola Springs (and even outside Irvine, as far north as Brea and as far south as Ladera Ranch). For my needs, Lambert Ranch was the best (the main factor being that TIC floorplans didn't meet my needs and I subjectively found them as boring as could be). For your needs, Stonegate was obviously best. But to say that LR is overpriced is just not true ("overpriced" isn't the same as "I can't afford"), nor is it to say that there is a different climate in LR compared with Stonegate.

Agreed.  Overprice was not the right terminology.  Affordability.

As to the climate, it's just my personal opinion.  Everytime I have visited PS, I feel it to be warmer.  It's not scientific.

I actually did numerous tests on the temperature difference between Portola Springs, Stonegate, and Woodbury. This test included both daytime and nightime tests during different seasons of the year (over the past year and a half). Results of my test was that there was rarely ever a temperature difference between these communities. I also included the Irvine Spectrum as part of my test and only saw a 1 degree difference on some days. This wasn't enough to notice.

I have a cousin in woodbury and another who lives in ps, i live in sg... and i visit them often.  i have to agree with commuter.  On the hottest days in the summer, Portola Springs "feels hotter".  Also, again nothing scientific just anecdotal, but it's also windier, which makes up for the extra heat, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 22, 2013, 10:51:02 AM
Portola Springs could feel hotter because it is not as dense as SG or WB.
for some reason PS does not benefit too much from the landfill shadow, given it is right at the foothill of the landfill.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 22, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
I actually did numerous tests on the temperature difference between Portola Springs, Stonegate, and Woodbury. This test included both daytime and nightime tests during different seasons of the year (over the past year and a half). Results of my test was that there was rarely ever a temperature difference between these communities. I also included the Irvine Spectrum as part of my test and only saw a 1 degree difference on some days. This wasn't enough to notice.
You should have included Laguna Woktura in your tests. Since it's "close" to the ocean, it has to be about 10 degrees cooler right?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 22, 2013, 11:19:33 AM
Laguna Woktura

Funny, Iho!  :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 22, 2013, 12:14:37 PM
Portola Springs could feel hotter because it is not as dense as SG or WB.
for some reason PS does not benefit too much from the landfill shadow, given it is right at the foothill of the landfill.

I wonder if it has to do with vegetation.  Woodbury has a lot of mature trees and vegetation.  Stonegate is still in its infancy development wise so it still feels warmer than Woodbury.  For some reason I just see a bunch of houses (and advertising) everytime  I go to PS.

Columbus Square was like this for a while...I remember going there for an opening and feeling like I was in the desert.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 22, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
Good point. almost bought in QH in 2004 but felt it was too barren (i.e. no mature vegetation). Now fast forward 9 years later....

Portola Springs could feel hotter because it is not as dense as SG or WB.
for some reason PS does not benefit too much from the landfill shadow, given it is right at the foothill of the landfill.

I wonder if it has to do with vegetation.  Woodbury has a lot of mature trees and vegetation.  Stonegate is still in its infancy development wise so it still feels warmer than Woodbury.  For some reason I just see a bunch of houses (and advertising) everytime  I go to PS.

Columbus Square was like this for a while...I remember going there for an opening and feeling like I was in the desert.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 22, 2013, 12:30:09 PM
@TMMC: You need to change your name to "The California Court Company".
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 22, 2013, 12:32:30 PM
OK

@TMMC: You need to change your name to "The California Court Company".
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 22, 2013, 12:33:14 PM
OK

@TMMC: You need to change your name to "The California Court Company".
Hehe.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: BunkMoreland on April 23, 2013, 11:11:21 AM
TIC is launching three new neighborhoods in CV on May 4th. Any idea what they are?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on April 23, 2013, 11:29:39 AM
TIC is launching three new neighborhoods in CV on May 4th. Any idea what they are?

TIC's website has been up for a while now:
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on April 23, 2013, 11:33:07 AM
Any new homes without great rooms? I hate great rooms!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on April 23, 2013, 11:39:23 AM
Any new homes without great rooms? I hate great rooms!

I love great rooms!!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on April 23, 2013, 11:46:30 AM
Any new homes without great rooms? I hate great rooms!

I love great rooms!!

Good for you! better yet, buy a house with a staircase opening into great room :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on April 23, 2013, 12:23:14 PM
I hate Family Rooms labeled as Great Rooms
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 23, 2013, 12:37:32 PM
I hate Kitchen/Dining/Family Rooms labeled as Great Rooms
Fixed that for you before everyone forgets.

Years from now, people won't remember what a motorcourt was... they'll just remember "California Court".

And yes... "covered patio" is something else now too.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 23, 2013, 03:25:55 PM
I hate Kitchen/Dining/Family Rooms labeled as Great Rooms
Fixed that for you before everyone forgets.

Years from now, people won't remember what a motorcourt was... they'll just remember "California Court".

And yes... "covered patio" is something else now too.

I like the Great Room...I have no use for a dining room.  the Family room/kitchen combo allows you to entertain without being left out.  Living Room is a thing of the past like the parlor.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 23, 2013, 03:51:58 PM
the Family room/kitchen combo allows you to entertain without being left out. Living Room is a thing of the past like the parlor.

Money Magazine disagrees.

"5 Dumbest Fads" (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/real_estate/0704/gallery.renovations.moneymag/index.html): #1 The Great Room Craze

"The great Great-Room Craze of the 1980s was all about openness: Why should the kitchen be so removed from the other living spaces? Indeed, why should there be any distinction between one public room living, dining, den and so on) and another? Everyone should happily congregate in one free-flowing space.

Sadly, the result is usually a great big mess. Think about it:

The Echo Chamber You know what you get when cooking, video-game playing, conversation and television viewing occur in the same space? Noise. Lots of noise.

Combining the kitchen, dining room, living room and den may seem like a good idea, but doing so overloads your public space with too many different activities."
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 23, 2013, 04:04:40 PM
the Family room/kitchen combo allows you to entertain without being left out. Living Room is a thing of the past like the parlor.

Money Magazine disagrees.

"5 Dumbest Fads" (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/real_estate/0704/gallery.renovations.moneymag/index.html): #1 The Great Room Craze

"The great Great-Room Craze of the 1980s was all about openness: Why should the kitchen be so removed from the other living spaces? Indeed, why should there be any distinction between one public room living, dining, den and so on) and another? Everyone should happily congregate in one free-flowing space.

Sadly, the result is usually a great big mess. Think about it:

The Echo Chamber You know what you get when cooking, video-game playing, conversation and television viewing occur in the same space? Noise. Lots of noise.

Combining the kitchen, dining room, living room and den may seem like a good idea, but doing so overloads your public space with too many different activities."

Really...the big objection is sound?  Obviously, family members should be separated at all time to avoid sound issues. 

Also, the great room is really the combination of the family, living and dining room.  Actually, all they did was to take out the walls between each of the rooms, that unnecessarily separated the rooms IMO.  People don't eat in formal dining rooms anymore and most parties are free flowing events between the kitchen and the living/family area. 

I also seriously disagree with 3 of the 5 items listed...smaller closed off kitchen as opposed to an open and large kitchen and recessed lighting is bad? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on April 23, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
I did put the big objection in my reply to Homer. Took it off later.
Big objection is privacy. There should be places in the house other than bedroom that can be semi private. Not just for things I don't mention, but for simple things like taking a call without everyone hearing the conversation.

TMI. Sometimes I come home to a sink full of dishes. I don't want to see that first thing when I enter :) we lived in an apt where the door opened into the kitchen. Hated it!





the Family room/kitchen combo allows you to entertain without being left out. Living Room is a thing of the past like the parlor.

Money Magazine disagrees.

"5 Dumbest Fads" (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/real_estate/0704/gallery.renovations.moneymag/index.html): #1 The Great Room Craze

"The great Great-Room Craze of the 1980s was all about openness: Why should the kitchen be so removed from the other living spaces? Indeed, why should there be any distinction between one public room living, dining, den and so on) and another? Everyone should happily congregate in one free-flowing space.

Sadly, the result is usually a great big mess. Think about it:

The Echo Chamber You know what you get when cooking, video-game playing, conversation and television viewing occur in the same space? Noise. Lots of noise.

Combining the kitchen, dining room, living room and den may seem like a good idea, but doing so overloads your public space with too many different activities."

Really...the big objection is sound?  Obviously, family members should be separated at all time to avoid sound issues. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 23, 2013, 04:11:43 PM
Not sure how many here have had huge parties... but I find the separation useful. Adults in one area, kids in another... or different sets of friends in different areas.

Two dining areas is a plus as usually one of the tables has all the food on it so there is another area where people can eat. Or again... kids at one table, adults at the other.

Additionally, just recently we've had notaries over and we sign all the paperwork in the dining room, away from the living room where the kids are playing video games.

I find it more functional than one gigantic room on the first floor.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on April 23, 2013, 04:11:57 PM
Also, do you see how the flow will be for your family, or when you have a party? Looks like most of you think about entertaining more than day to day traffic..

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 23, 2013, 04:12:36 PM
I did put the big objection in my reply to Homer. Took it off later.
Big objection is privacy. There should be places in the house other than bedroom that can be semi private. Not just for things I don't mention, but for simple things like taking a call without everyone hearing the conversation.

TMI. Sometimes I come home to a sink full of dishes. I don't want to see that first thing when I enter :) we lived in an apt where the door opened into the kitchen. Hated it!
Exactly.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 23, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
I did put the big objection in my reply to Homer. Took it off later.
Big objection is privacy. There should be places in the house other than bedroom that can be semi private. Not just for things I don't mention, but for simple things like taking a call without everyone hearing the conversation.

TMI. Sometimes I come home to a sink full of dishes. I don't want to see that first thing when I enter :) we lived in an apt where the door opened into the kitchen. Hated it!


I guess but how often do you need to have a "secret" phone conversation?  If I want privacy or silence, I can go to a bedroom or a den and get that there.  I don't necessary think that's an issue with the great room but just size of the property in general. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 23, 2013, 04:19:21 PM
i dont care about entertaining, i only care about how im going to use the rooms. we have huge kitchen/great room and separate dining room. would not trade the huge great room for anything.  our dining room is currently a gym. we dont need or want a separate living room, we would never use it.

you guys are wasting your time arguing about what is better, for your house, your own opinion is all that matters.

And frankly IHO im surprised you let your kids out of your sight even in your own house   :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 23, 2013, 04:20:23 PM
OMG, OMG! I got a thank you from Irvinehomeowner! This, like, never happens y'all. Is this really happening right now?! I need to go do a print screen and file it with the other one from 4 years ago - March 25, 2009 to be exact but who's counting...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 23, 2013, 04:21:23 PM
Also, do you see how the flow will be for your family, or when you have a party? Looks like most of you think about entertaining more than day to day traffic..

Both.  I would like to be able to see my daughter playing in the living room area while I do dishes or am cooking.  I would also like to be able to have a conversation with my friends/family when they are over so that I don't feel like being left out of the conversation.   Also, a great room means no more missing TV shows or sports while getting something to drink from the fridge.
A bigger room also allows for more decorative choice and less worry about being overcrowded. 

Again, if there is a giant need for privacy, there is usually a bedroom available.  Even in my apartment, I can sit at the dinning room table while my daughter watches TV.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 23, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
I like the Great Room concept... what I'm saying is it's basically the same as the family/nook/kitchen layout of the older homes. I can see my kids while I'm cooking or washing dishes. But when I'm in my family room watching NBA playoffs, my kid can be in the living room practicing viola and I don't have to turn my volume to max.

I'll take a great room as long as they give me a 2nd dining area (or in qwerter's case... a gym)... a living room/parlor is a bonus. What everyone isn't getting is that homes with just a Great Room is really shorting you on space.

For example, qwerter, what if your first floor was just that giant great room and no dining area and bedroom? That's how some of the TIC floorplans are. Like IHS says... the tour ends as soon as your guests enter the door because there is nothing else to show. :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 23, 2013, 04:29:27 PM
I like the Great Room concept... what I'm saying is it's basically the same as the family/nook/kitchen layout of the older homes. I can see my kids while I'm cooking or washing dishes. But when I'm in my family room watching NBA playoffs, my kid can be in the living room practicing viola and I don't have to turn my volume to max.

I'll take a great room as long as they give me a 2nd dining area (or in qwerter's case... a gym)... a living room/parlor is a bonus. What everyone isn't getting is that homes with just a Great Room is really shorting you on space.

For example, qwerter, what if your first floor was just that giant great room and no dining area and bedroom? That's how some of the TIC floorplans are. Like IHS says... the tour ends as soon as your guests enter the door because there is nothing else to show. :)

I would much prefer a great room than three tiny individual rooms, two of which I use like once or twice a year. 

Also, if my daughter is practicing an instrument, she can go to her bedroom and practice.  I would like as much distance as possible in that scenario.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 23, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
Even in my apartment, I can sit at the dinning room table while my daughter watches TV.

I have my kids do homework at the dining table. TV is forbidden during homework time. Being able to see the TV from the dining table is of no help to the parent. Separation of space is important for concentration.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 23, 2013, 04:51:18 PM
A bigger room also allows for more decorative choice

1 large room instead of 3 smaller rooms = less decorative choice.
3 rooms can have 3 distinct "flavors", each with its own character. A great room calls for more cohesiveness (for example: color scheme) because everything is on display from standing in one spot.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 23, 2013, 04:55:31 PM
i dont care about entertaining, i only care about how im going to use the rooms. we have huge kitchen/great room and separate dining room. would not trade the huge great room for anything.  our dining room is currently a gym. we dont need or want a separate living room, we would never use it.

Never say never. Wait 'til you have noisy little qwerties.

At least you have OPTIONS in your house. You can always re-purpose the gym / dining room how you see fit later on. Your floor plan gives you that choice. That is totally different than what we're talking about.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on April 23, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
For example, qwerter, what if your first floor was just that giant great room and no dining area and bedroom? That's how some of the TIC floorplans are. Like IHS says... the tour ends as soon as your guests enter the door because there is nothing else to show. :)

i would not have bought our current place if it did not have the dining room and down stairs bedroom. but if it had the downstairs bedroom i probably still would have bought it cause then i would have put the gym in the 3CWG!  with that said, i would not buy a place that has a traditional separate kitchen/living/dining room with no downstairs bedroom.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on April 23, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
Even in my apartment, I can sit at the dinning room table while my daughter watches TV.

I have my kids do homework at the dining table. TV is forbidden during homework time. Being able to see the TV from the dining table is of no help to the parent. Separation of space is important for concentration.

Or you could just turn off the TV.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on April 23, 2013, 05:07:10 PM
I like the Great Room concept... what I'm saying is it's basically the same as the family/nook/kitchen layout of the older homes. I can see my kids while I'm cooking or washing dishes. But when I'm in my family room watching NBA playoffs, my kid can be in the living room practicing viola and I don't have to turn my volume to max.


That's why, in my opinion, having a loft space upstairs is super important... especially in these new homes with open concept.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on April 23, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
These open concept/great room floorplans are great if you have small children.  Then you're supposed to upgrade to a bigger house with the formal dining and living ALONG with the open concept family room in X years.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 23, 2013, 05:57:00 PM
Even in my apartment, I can sit at the dinning room table while my daughter watches TV.

I have my kids do homework at the dining table. TV is forbidden during homework time. Being able to see the TV from the dining table is of no help to the parent. Separation of space is important for concentration.

Or you could just turn off the TV.

Very funny. You could tip-toe around each other all day long but it isn't very practical. A great room may be good if there are 1 or 2 people living in the home. When there are more than that, they start getting in each other's way.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: BunkMoreland on April 23, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
TIC is launching three new neighborhoods in CV on May 4th. Any idea what they are?

TIC's website has been up for a while now:
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village

Oh.. I thought they were talking about new neighborhoods. This is old news. my bad.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: thedude111222 on April 23, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
This thread took an interesting turn since I last saw it a couple of days ago...here are my thoughts

1) Socal is clearly a tiger mom (or dad, can't tell with the ambiguous name). My kids will probably work for those kids one day...
2) Can't be more off about the assertion that a great room offers less decorative choice.  A well thought out and decorated great room can definitely incorporate different paint schemes and styles to the different zones of the room, the key is getting it to flow.
3) As someone that loves to entertain and is the cook for most dinner parties, the great room is simply the best, especially one that flows seamlessly to the backyard or patio.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jayl23 on April 24, 2013, 12:12:33 AM
Indeed, it's not just a very nice room, it's a great room!  :D
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 24, 2013, 09:33:06 AM
This thread took an interesting turn since I last saw it a couple of days ago...here are my thoughts

1) Socal is clearly a tiger mom (or dad, can't tell with the ambiguous name). My kids will probably work for those kids one day...
2) Can't be more off about the assertion that a great room offers less decorative choice.  A well thought out and decorated great room can definitely incorporate different paint schemes and styles to the different zones of the room, the key is getting it to flow.
3) As someone that loves to entertain and is the cook for most dinner parties, the great room is simply the best, especially one that flows seamlessly to the backyard or patio.

Agree on no. 2 and 3 (probably no. 1 as well).  The great room allows you to get larger pieces of furniture and offers up a lot more flexibility.  No more need to figure out if a couch or table is going to fit in a room or not.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 24, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
I think most are still missing the point... the Great Room is a gimmick to give you less. Even if you guys hardly use the formal dining or living room/parlor, it's still more space... you can be like qwerter and repurpose those spaces as a gym... or a music room... or a dog wash.

My home still has a "Great Room" that's open and flows to the backyard... but I also have a formal dining room for more seating for guests... and a living room for even more seating. That's why the bigger new homes have that second dining room because they know that it is useful, they just don't do it in the smaller SFRs because they are trying to maximize land usage.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on April 24, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
I think most are still missing the point... the Great Room is a gimmick to give you less. Even if you guys hardly use the formal dining or living room/parlor, it's still more space... you can be like qwerter and repurpose those spaces as a gym... or a music room... or a dog wash.

My home still has a "Great Room" that's open and flows to the backyard... but I also have a formal dining room for more seating for guests... and a living room for even more seating. That's why the bigger new homes have that second dining room because they know that it is useful, they just don't do it in the smaller SFRs because they are trying to maximize land usage.

I don't know why you would get less space?  With traditional rooms, you have walls that block flow to the floorplans and physically take up space. 

Even if it technically gives you for space, the space is largely underused.  Yes, I could put a gym in my dining room area but I can also put it in a bedroom or the garage.  I much rather have the space in one flowing space where it can be used just about everyday.  I mean, square footage is square footage.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 24, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
I don't know why you would get less space?  With traditional rooms, you have walls that block flow to the floorplans and physically take up space. 
You're still not getting it... by removing the living/dining they are giving you a smaller footprint of a home because they either make the house more narrow or less deep. You don't notice a drop in overall square footage because instead of vaulted ceilings on the 1st floor, they use the entire space for the second floor, so your 2000sft house actually feels smaller because everything is less spread out.
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Even if it technically gives you for space, the space is largely underused.  Yes, I could put a gym in my dining room area but I can also put it in a bedroom or the garage.  I much rather have the space in one flowing space where it can be used just about everyday.  I mean, square footage is square footage.
I hear this a lot but it's just not a good excuse in my opinion. To me, people love more space even if they don't use it all the time. I don't use the 3rd row seat in my minivan very much but I love having it when I need it. Before our kids, we never used 2 of the bedrooms but we liked having a 4-bedroom house for guests or whatever.

Having a spacious house isn't just about using all of the space all of the time... but having that space available if and when you need it.

But like someone else mentioned, it's a personal choice. It's why I like 3CWG homes even though we only have 2 cars. Or a driveway even though we try to always park in the garage. Maybe it's fat guy thing... I need to spread out but I also want to compartmentalize and don't want everything in one giant downstairs living space.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on April 24, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Exactly. New homes have narrow and long lots in order to pack in more houses given the same acreage. Narrow lots makes it difficult to have separate  living+dining+family rooms. For wide and shallow lots, with the same interior square footage, usually you can get a 2nd floor LOFT or vaulted ceiling which adds volume to the home. Great room is really a marketing gimmick.


I don't know why you would get less space?  With traditional rooms, you have walls that block flow to the floorplans and physically take up space. 
You're still not getting it... by removing the living/dining they are giving you a smaller footprint of a home because they either make the house more narrow or less deep. You don't notice a drop in overall square footage because instead of vaulted ceilings on the 1st floor, they use the entire space for the second floor, so your 2000sft house actually feels smaller because everything is less spread out.
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Even if it technically gives you for space, the space is largely underused.  Yes, I could put a gym in my dining room area but I can also put it in a bedroom or the garage.  I much rather have the space in one flowing space where it can be used just about everyday.  I mean, square footage is square footage.
I hear this a lot but it's just not a good excuse in my opinion. To me, people love more space even if they don't use it all the time. I don't use the 3rd row seat in my minivan very much but I love having it when I need it. Before our kids, we never used 2 of the bedrooms but we liked having a 4-bedroom house for guests or whatever.

Having a spacious house isn't just about using all of the space all of the time... but having that space available if and when you need it.

But like someone else mentioned, it's a personal choice. It's why I like 3CWG homes even though we only have 2 cars. Or a driveway even though we try to always park in the garage. Maybe it's fat guy thing... I need to spread out but I also want to compartmentalize and don't want everything in one giant downstairs living space.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 24, 2013, 12:21:31 PM
1) Socal is clearly a tiger mom (or dad, can't tell with the ambiguous name). My kids will probably work for those kids one day...

Darn. I can't fool you guys. I admit you nailed it. I really am your typical Irvinite - a 45 year old Tiger Dad from Taiwan. Surprise, everybody!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on April 24, 2013, 12:33:26 PM
1) Socal is clearly a tiger mom (or dad, can't tell with the ambiguous name). My kids will probably work for those kids one day...

Darn. I can't fool you guys. I admit you nailed it. I really am your typical Irvinite - a 45 year old Tiger Dad from Taiwan. Surprise, everybody!

:-) True-true :P Shaved ice date this afternoon, SoCal?
So, what's the verdict? Those who have a great room, great! Great if you don't?
I will be off to my taking my "secret" calls in my "semi-private" living room now.. fun discussion!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 24, 2013, 12:46:36 PM
1) Socal is clearly a tiger mom (or dad, can't tell with the ambiguous name). My kids will probably work for those kids one day...

Darn. I can't fool you guys. I admit you nailed it. I really am your typical Irvinite - a 45 year old Tiger Dad from Taiwan. Surprise, everybody!

:-) True-true :P Shaved ice date this afternoon, SoCal?

Hey, there, Hot Stuff.  ;) I'm looking forward to our next rendezvous.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 24, 2013, 12:49:47 PM
Hey, there, Hot Stuff.  ;) I'm looking forward to our next rendezvous.
And you still don't get the Strawberries joke?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on April 24, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
Hey, there, Hot Stuff.  ;) I'm looking forward to our next rendezvous.
And you still don't get the Strawberries joke?

Carry on, strawberries and donuts, and great rooms..with Homer. I like Qwerty's ideal: Great room as a family room and have separate spaces also, although I don't like wasted/extra space in my house.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 24, 2013, 12:58:10 PM
Hey, there, Hot Stuff.  ;) I'm looking forward to our next rendezvous.
And you still don't get the Strawberries joke?

Nope, it's over my head. Must be a weird American thing. You Americans have strange customs telling people they smell like berries. We don't say this in my country. "Nice to meet you. You smell like blueberries." I will try to remember this. Thank you.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 24, 2013, 01:03:48 PM
Sigh.

The joke is that you post like you have a little romance going with CZ... so I do the same thing with Homer (saying he smells good etc etc).

#FacePalm
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on April 24, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
I still don't get it.  :'(
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on April 28, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
Does CV offer agent referral fee?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on April 28, 2013, 10:23:50 PM
Does CV offer agent referral fee?

I would be surprised in this market.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on April 28, 2013, 11:00:45 PM
I don't know why you would get less space?  With traditional rooms, you have walls that block flow to the floorplans and physically take up space. 
You're still not getting it... by removing the living/dining they are giving you a smaller footprint of a home because they either make the house more narrow or less deep. You don't notice a drop in overall square footage because instead of vaulted ceilings on the 1st floor, they use the entire space for the second floor, so your 2000sft house actually feels smaller because everything is less spread out.
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Even if it technically gives you for space, the space is largely underused.  Yes, I could put a gym in my dining room area but I can also put it in a bedroom or the garage.  I much rather have the space in one flowing space where it can be used just about everyday.  I mean, square footage is square footage.
I hear this a lot but it's just not a good excuse in my opinion. To me, people love more space even if they don't use it all the time. I don't use the 3rd row seat in my minivan very much but I love having it when I need it. Before our kids, we never used 2 of the bedrooms but we liked having a 4-bedroom house for guests or whatever.

Having a spacious house isn't just about using all of the space all of the time... but having that space available if and when you need it.

But like someone else mentioned, it's a personal choice. It's why I like 3CWG homes even though we only have 2 cars. Or a driveway even though we try to always park in the garage. Maybe it's fat guy thing... I need to spread out but I also want to compartmentalize and don't want everything in one giant downstairs living space.

While I agree with the Great Room being gimmicky, I do believe current buyers prefer it more.   My recent purchase netted me a family, dining, living, nook, and upstairs loft.  I have to admit, after months living in the place, we hardly use the living room and maybe ate in the formal dining once.  Majority of the time is spent in the kitchen, nook, and family rooms.  Which would mean a great room would've been more efficient for our style of living.  Factor in not having to furnish additional living spaces means more money saved.  Having said that, would I still pick my current place over a new home with Great Room?  Hell yeah...

As our kid get older, I can see the additional spaces coming into play....vaulted ceiling living room becomes the music room.  Formal dining will come into play more during holidays and gatherings, loft becomes my old man cave.

So I agree with IHO, while the Great Room may be great now (especially for young families), it can be outgrown quick, especially when the little ones are no longer little and the desire for teenage privacy comes into play.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 28, 2013, 11:40:13 PM
@PS9:

You still have a Great Room... it just has 3 names.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on April 30, 2013, 07:36:17 PM
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff390/Ps99472/CypressVillage_zps49c668d1.jpg) (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/Ps99472/media/CypressVillage_zps49c668d1.jpg.html)

Might venture in if the parking's not too crazy... wanna see the famous CA court and the dog wash... oh yeah the 10 foot ceilings too...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 30, 2013, 08:23:02 PM
I just want to see the California Garage... the Cali-Sac... not so much.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: kubert13 on May 01, 2013, 08:05:18 AM
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff390/Ps99472/CypressVillage_zps49c668d1.jpg) (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/Ps99472/media/CypressVillage_zps49c668d1.jpg.html)

Might venture in if the parking's not too crazy... wanna see the famous CA court and the dog wash... oh yeah the 10 foot ceilings too...

TI meet and greet!?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 01, 2013, 08:44:15 AM
one or two day shipping available?
http://www.zazzle.com/talkirvine/gifts

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff390/Ps99472/CypressVillage_zps49c668d1.jpg) (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/Ps99472/media/CypressVillage_zps49c668d1.jpg.html)

Might venture in if the parking's not too crazy... wanna see the famous CA court and the dog wash... oh yeah the 10 foot ceilings too...

TI meet and greet!?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on May 01, 2013, 09:08:32 AM
why don't we all just bring a suitcase?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 01, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
not sure that's good idea...I expect a lot of  FCBs to show up

why don't we all just bring a suitcase?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on May 03, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
alright.. planning to go tomorrow..gonna go toe to toe with the opening day crowd.. I'll be the dude staring at the 10' ceilings in Magnolia and Mulberry.. uuugggghhhh extra 1 foot.....drool

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff390/Ps99472/Cypressvillage_zps752f91a5.jpg) (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/Ps99472/media/Cypressvillage_zps752f91a5.jpg.html)

is it me or do I see guest parking issues in the future?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 03, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
I want to see Mulberry.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: snut100 on May 04, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
Only 1 more hour.  I am going here for the food, to see the bamboo trees in the backyard, the ping pong table to entertain your guests, the functional kitchen where you have keep your rice cooker out of sight, and the small skinny walkways in between the houses, and hopefully each house has a chalkboard so you don't forget to drop your kids off at violin practice.

Maybe I will run into my special friends, the construction supervisors, aka dumber and dumber.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Larkfield12 on May 04, 2013, 11:14:24 AM
Just got back from a visit to Cypress Village.   Felt like I was going to get there early and it would be quiet, but nope it was packed by that was my first grand opening...  Why does Irvine Company bother printing their marketing material in English?

There was some subtle changes, but nothing dramatically different than the homes opened in Stonegate. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 04, 2013, 01:29:08 PM
Pricing
Marigold
plan 1: $722,000~726,000
plan 2: $744,000~748,000
plan 3: $736,000
plan 3x: $736,000

Mulberry
plan 1: avaialble in the future
plan 2: $935,000
plan 3: $995,000~1,000,000

Magnolia
Sorry they run out of price sheets. should've stolen one from one of the FCBs

HOA $129/month
Mello-roos ~$3500 per year, on par with Stonegate

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 04, 2013, 02:23:09 PM
I forgot that grand openings mean offsite parking and shuttles. We just drove by... so many people... unicorns exist.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on May 04, 2013, 02:24:40 PM
Jeesh... 1 mil for motorcourt... glad I just stayed home and did a chill and grill.. Costco USDA Prime Ribeye with stuffed garlic mated with Atlas Cab... gonna take a nap now..
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 04, 2013, 02:56:06 PM
shuttles? what shuttles? I only saw TIC employee give certain people golf cart rides - these must be the cash buyers.

I forgot that grand openings mean offsite parking and shuttles. We just drove by... so many people... unicorns exist.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Fire blade on May 04, 2013, 03:58:24 PM
We went by there. It was packed, maybe over a thousand people. For some reason every floor plan looked and felt the same, maybe because there were so many people in every model. The Wahoos fish tacos were worth it though and so was the magic show for my kids  :D

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: snut100 on May 04, 2013, 04:21:33 PM
Pricing

Magnolia
Sorry they run out of price sheets. should've stolen one from one of the FCBs


Magnolia
plan 1:  $828,000~$833,000 (3bd, 2.5 baths, 2196 sf)
plan 2:  $875,000 (4bd, 3 baths, 2290 sf)
plan 3:  $992,000 (4bd, 3.5 baths, 2743 sf)
plan 3X:  $992,000-$997,000 (4bd, 3.5 baths, 2743 sf)

View of the 5 freeway:  **PRICELESS**
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 04, 2013, 04:24:53 PM
shuttles? what shuttles? I only saw TIC employee give certain people golf cart rides - these must be the cash buyers.
Ahh... so it was just walkovers from the parking? I thought they had shuttles like at Woktura... saw the golf carts too.

Why was Plan 1 of Mulberry unavailable? Too many people buying those... bet those will get jacked up to $900k soon.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: snut100 on May 04, 2013, 04:34:46 PM
My favorite for the money is Marigold.  It's like San Mateo all grown up.  You take your successful Motor Court project to date and just add building blocks to it.  I felt right at home.  Help me guys, I can't figure out who Irvine Pacific is trying to cater to with this project?  Thanks for the free eats.

Not shown:  The 3 smoothies I drank (LIMIT 2 PER FAMILY!!!)
2 Panera Smoked Turkey Sandwiches I ate
2 cupcakes I ate
4 fish/chicken tacos

I am attaching one of the pictures I took, can't remember what build it was but it had a "wok-in" mini kitchen, HAHAHA.  It allows you to stir fry your vegetables and steam your fish without stinking up your house.  GENIUS!

Telling a family of 4 they can only have 2 smoothies and 2 granola bars?  Cheap and very tacky IMO.  In order to prevent a riot at the smoothie section, they played Gangnam Style.  PURE GENIUS!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on May 04, 2013, 05:48:10 PM
shuttles? what shuttles? I only saw TIC employee give certain people golf cart rides - these must be the cash buyers.
Ahh... so it was just walkovers from the parking? I thought they had shuttles like at Woktura... saw the golf carts too.

Why was Plan 1 of Mulberry unavailable? Too many people buying those... bet those will get jacked up to $900k soon.

Plan 1 was not available for phase 1 in Mulberry.  Mulberry phase 1 consists of 5 homes, 3 "plan 3" and 2 "plan 2".  I could be wrong but when I look at the site map (from Irvine City's record),  I don't see many plan 1 homes  for the Mulberry.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: none on May 04, 2013, 05:49:57 PM
Does CV offer agent referral fee?

I would be surprised in this market.

I overheard one of the reps saying, "Oh, are you the agent?" and giving them a form.  So, I guess it is still available.
I didn't stay till the end of that exchange.  I suppose, given their lack of CS, the rep could have pulled it away and said, "Psych".  :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: none on May 04, 2013, 05:54:50 PM
My favorite for the money is Marigold.  It's like San Mateo all grown up.  You take your successful Motor Court project to date and just add building blocks to it.  I felt right at home.  Help me guys, I can't figure out who Irvine Pacific is trying to cater to with this project?  Thanks for the free eats.

Not shown:  The 3 smoothies I drank (LIMIT 2 PER FAMILY!!!)
2 Panera Smoked Turkey Sandwiches I ate
2 cupcakes I ate
4 fish/chicken tacos

I am attaching one of the pictures I took, can't remember what build it was but it had a "wok-in" mini kitchen, HAHAHA.  It allows you to stir fry your vegetables and steam your fish without stinking up your house.  GENIUS!

Telling a family of 4 they can only have 2 smoothies and 2 granola bars?  Cheap and very tacky IMO.  In order to prevent a riot at the smoothie section, they played Gangnam Style.  PURE GENIUS!

I saw you today!  Wondering who'd be taking a picture of the table with a big grin on their face.  Guess it was you... 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jamboreedude on May 04, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
Just got back from a visit to Cypress Village.   Felt like I was going to get there early and it would be quiet, but nope it was packed by that was my first grand opening...  Why does Irvine Company bother printing their marketing material in English?

Were there too many Chinese/Koreans?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 04, 2013, 09:18:42 PM
Freeway noise................................................... check.
Train noise......................................................... check.
Nearby housing for the seriously mentally ill..... check.
Nearby IAC apartments..................................... check.
Nearby EPA Superfund site................................ check.

All this and a motorcalifornia court can be yours for one million dollars!  Who wants to be first?

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: evensteven on May 04, 2013, 09:20:09 PM
Does anyone know for the Marigold plan 2, if we upgraded to a conservatory what happens to the kitchen sink window? Does it just become an opening or do they fill it in with a wall?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 04, 2013, 10:11:07 PM
at least they don't have a disclosure like in my signature; seriously, if you touch the plants within Tustin Legacy, you have to seek immediate medical attention?



Freeway noise................................................... check.
Train noise......................................................... check.
Nearby housing for the seriously mentally ill..... check.
Nearby IAC apartments..................................... check.
Nearby EPA Superfund site................................ check.

All this and a motorcalifornia court can be yours for one million dollars!  Who wants to be first?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: snowblind40 on May 04, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Does anyone know for the Marigold plan 2, if we upgraded to a conservatory what happens to the kitchen sink window? Does it just become an opening or do they fill it in with a wall?

It becomes an opening.  No wall there.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on May 04, 2013, 11:38:10 PM
$12K for Marigold

Does CV offer agent referral fee?

I would be surprised in this market.

I overheard one of the reps saying, "Oh, are you the agent?" and giving them a form.  So, I guess it is still available.
I didn't stay till the end of that exchange.  I suppose, given their lack of CS, the rep could have pulled it away and said, "Psych".  :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 05, 2013, 01:32:33 AM
at least they don't have a disclosure like in my signature; seriously, if you touch the plants within Tustin Legacy, you have to seek immediate medical attention?



Freeway noise................................................... check.
Train noise......................................................... check.
Nearby housing for the seriously mentally ill..... check.
Nearby IAC apartments..................................... check.
Nearby EPA Superfund site................................ check.

All this and a motorcalifornia court can be yours for one million dollars!  Who wants to be first?

Tic figures that if your ok with breathing the filth from the 5, then you are probably ok with being across the street from a superfund site. Who knows, the plume could be under cypress village by now.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on May 05, 2013, 05:05:58 AM
I am attaching one of the pictures I took, can't remember what build it was but it had a "wok-in" mini kitchen, HAHAHA.  It allows you to stir fry your vegetables and steam your fish without stinking up your house.  GENIUS!

I believe that was Plan 1 on Mulberry with the "Wok Kitchen"/Optional Prep kitchen.

I liked the 2 story entry on the Plan 3 and it was interesting seeing the California Garage options--great for people who want a private office away from the family. You definitely hear the I5 outside the homes but not from inside and the backyards are typical TIC/small.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on May 05, 2013, 11:18:47 AM
All this wok talk.. I bought my first wok last evening, and told husband to buy a house to go with it :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on May 05, 2013, 05:02:44 PM
Just finished touring the models..

I actually like the California court and the California garage is pretty sweet. 














I drank the kool-aid they were passing out!!  :-\
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 06, 2013, 08:50:16 AM
Wife and I went to visit Mulberry and Marigold on Saturday.  Initial impressions

1)  The freeway and traffic noise is very noticeable when you are outside.  You can't hear it inside the home but once you walk out you hear the constant swooshing sound from the freeway traffic. 

2)  Mulberry had some interesting ideas but incredibly overpriced at around $1 million.  I like the little play room area in plan 2 (?) and the open loft in plan 3.  Something don't make a lot of sense.  For example, you are supposed to be able to upgrade a plan 3 to 5 bedrooms but there are still only 2.5 baths.  So, even if you have a downstairs bedroom, that person would have to go up stairs to take a shower.   The worst part is the smallness of the kitchen.  You have this $1 million house but the kitchen is small with no a lot of counter space.  Just doesn't make sense.  The California garage was interesting but the normal garage felt small to me for some reason

3)  Marigold felt like a scaled down size of Saratoga.  In fact, plan 3 looked like a plan 2 saratoga but with the downstair bedroom, a smaller kitchen, and no upstairs hallways.  The California court is interest but the maintenance on that thing should be interesting.  Price is "okay" but considering Saratoga started at $665K for a plan 1...Marigold is not a good buy IMO.

 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 06, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
yes WL is being honest and forthcoming warning their Augusta buyers not to physically touch any plants; in case there is a lawsuit they will be less implicated because the warning is in the purchase contract.

who knows what TIC is hiding?


at least they don't have a disclosure like in my signature; seriously, if you touch the plants within Tustin Legacy, you have to seek immediate medical attention?



Freeway noise................................................... check.
Train noise......................................................... check.
Nearby housing for the seriously mentally ill..... check.
Nearby IAC apartments..................................... check.
Nearby EPA Superfund site................................ check.

All this and a motorcalifornia court can be yours for one million dollars!  Who wants to be first?

Tic figures that if your ok with breathing the filth from the 5, then you are probably ok with being across the street from a superfund site. Who knows, the plume could be under cypress village by now.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 06, 2013, 09:53:10 AM
yes WL is being honest and forthcoming warning their Augusta buyers not to physically touch any plants; in case there is a lawsuit they will be less implicated because the warning is in the purchase contract.

who knows what TIC is hiding?


at least they don't have a disclosure like in my signature; seriously, if you touch the plants within Tustin Legacy, you have to seek immediate medical attention?



Freeway noise................................................... check.
Train noise......................................................... check.
Nearby housing for the seriously mentally ill..... check.
Nearby IAC apartments..................................... check.
Nearby EPA Superfund site................................ check.

All this and a motorcalifornia court can be yours for one million dollars!  Who wants to be first?

Tic figures that if your ok with breathing the filth from the 5, then you are probably ok with being across the street from a superfund site. Who knows, the plume could be under cypress village by now.

It would really dumb for TIC not to disclose.  Most people don't pay attention to the disclosures when they are signing a contract for a new home.  It's the best time to "slip" something past people.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 06, 2013, 09:54:42 AM
yes WL is being honest and forthcoming warning their Augusta buyers not to physically touch any plants;

Is this a joke??
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 06, 2013, 10:23:12 AM
Something don't make a lot of sense.  For example, you are supposed to be able to upgrade a plan 3 to 5 bedrooms but there are still only 2.5 baths.  So, even if you have a downstairs bedroom, that person would have to go up stairs to take a shower.
When you configure the downstairs den to a bedroom... a shower is added to the powder room.
Quote
The worst part is the smallness of the kitchen.  You have this $1 million house but the kitchen is small with no a lot of counter space.  Just doesn't make sense.
I agree based on what I see from the floorplan. What gets me is CV is not really the greatest location yet they are charging almost $1mil for it... at least Woodbridge and University has better amenities, mature infrastructure and central Irvine location.

Is Cypress Village an A or B 'hood?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 06, 2013, 10:24:27 AM
yes WL is being honest and forthcoming warning their Augusta buyers not to physically touch any plants;

Is this a joke??
Unfortunately no... look at TCCC's signature... that is actual verbiage from the documents given to buyers/owners there.

I think it's a bit over the top but they are trying to protect themselves.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 06, 2013, 10:26:26 AM
yes WL is being honest and forthcoming warning their Augusta buyers not to physically touch any plants;

Is this a joke??
Unfortunately no... look at TCCC's signature... that is actual verbiage from the documents given to buyers/owners there.

I think it's a bit over the top but they are trying to protect themselves.

GAHHHH!!  :-\
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 06, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
we checked out mulberry this weekend since my wife wanted some decoration ideas. 

the kitchens were pretty small for a $1M home, very very small islands (but any time i see an island now its small to me).  i think plan 2 was probably my favorite (modeled with conservatory).  very open but the columns still kind of defined the spaces.  it would have been nice to have direct access to the california garages from the inside of the house through the regular garage. also, i didnt like that the california garage uprade had a wall unit for an A/C.  the freeway swoosh noise, while audible, wasnt bad in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on May 06, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
yes WL is being honest and forthcoming warning their Augusta buyers not to physically touch any plants;

Is this a joke??
Unfortunately no... look at TCCC's signature... that is actual verbiage from the documents given to buyers/owners there.

I think it's a bit over the top but they are trying to protect themselves.

I thought it was sarcastic signature.. So people still buy after reading,or they don't read them?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 06, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
It stopped us... and we were close, deposit check and everything.

Some people read it but don't care.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 06, 2013, 12:16:12 PM
It stopped us... and we were close, deposit check and everything.

Some people read it but don't care.

Most people read and don't care...new house-ness blinds them.  Just think about the disclosures made after you make a deal for a car, most people don't even pay attention.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on May 06, 2013, 12:23:42 PM
we checked out mulberry this weekend since my wife wanted some decoration ideas. 

the kitchens were pretty small for a $1M home, very very small islands (but any time i see an island now its small to me).  i think plan 2 was probably my favorite (modeled with conservatory).  very open but the columns still kind of defined the spaces.  it would have been nice to have direct access to the california garages from the inside of the house through the regular garage. also, i didnt like that the california garage uprade had a wall unit for an A/C.  the freeway swoosh noise, while audible, wasnt bad in my opinion.

I think I saw you :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 06, 2013, 12:24:48 PM
It stopped us... and we were close, deposit check and everything.

Some people read it but don't care.

Could have bought and flipped it 6 months later for $300k profit.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 06, 2013, 12:29:50 PM

Tic figures that if your ok with breathing the filth from the 5, then you are probably ok with being across the street from a superfund site. Who knows, the plume could be under cypress village by now.

Speaking of filth from the 5... I used to live backed up against the 5 (at Tustin Ranch Rd & The 5). I was surprised how much dustier everything gets inside the homes. You get this layer of light brown filth. I am not joking. It accumulates so quickly. It is really obvious if you've never lived near a freeway before. I don't know where this new home community is exactly but if it is close to the freeway, I recommend keeping your windows closed as much as possible if you don't want to be constantly cleaning or breathing this in. Of course, not being able to open your windows much isn't very cool either. Just my 2 cents. Been there, done that.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 06, 2013, 12:57:10 PM
I thought it was sarcastic signature.. So people still buy after reading,or they don't read them?

we stilll bought there. this is how is see it. if it was really that dangerous, you would think some government entity would not let you build there.  as mentioned by IHO, it was my thought that they were just trying to cover their ass in case something happened. ill let you guys know in ten years if i grew the fourth leg or not.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 06, 2013, 12:58:48 PM
I think I saw you :)

did you see a mexican guy with an asian wife in basketball shorts and tshirt? if so, that was me!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: IrvineRealtor on May 06, 2013, 01:07:31 PM
I think I saw you :)

did you see a mexican guy with an asian wife in basketball shorts and tshirt? if so, that was me!
I was the Austrian in the tie and the St. Louis Cardinals hat.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on May 06, 2013, 01:39:28 PM
I think I saw you :)

did you see a mexican guy with an asian wife in basketball shorts and tshirt? if so, that was me!
I was the Austrian in the tie and the St. Louis Cardinals hat.

I was the tall white dude with an african american wife and mexican kid.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cubic Zirconia on May 06, 2013, 01:41:11 PM
I think I saw you :)

did you see a mexican guy with an asian wife in basketball shorts and tshirt? if so, that was me!
I was the Austrian in the tie and the St. Louis Cardinals hat.

I was the tall white dude with an african american wife and mexican kid.

I was blonde MIA :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: hamilton on May 06, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
Plan3 at Magnolia had my favorite great room area.  Really open and was pretty neat how you would open up the sliding doors all the way across. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 06, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
I saw Mulberry with IR2 today... it was underwhelming to me.

These reminded me of the detached condos where you open your front door and the entire first floor is there. Although there is a foyer... it's not as separated from the rest of the home, so the downstairs feel really small. Like qwerty said, the kitchens are not very big. It's very strange how these homes are situated, almost like a box, not very long, not very wide (not counting the garage).

The garages do feel smaller, not only in width but also in depth... my unofficial measurements have them at 18x19... another box. They should have left at least one of them in the default configuration so you can see how much bigger the garage would be with the extra space in the back.

I will say that the 10 foot ceilings are nice... because it does have a smaller footprint, the higher ceilings makes it better (I think the garage ceiling is higher too). The Plan 3 downstairs is better because it has a more separated foyer (with a vaulted ceiling for ps9) and a downstairs room.

The upstairs are much better... good space and the masters are not too small (I think Plan 1 master felt the biggest). The master bathroom/closets are still small though. The Plan 3 upstairs is very large... nice loft space.

For these price points, in my opinion, they are not very good. Mendocino/Maricopa felt more "housey" which is weird to me because I'm not a big fan of their layouts either but compared to Mulberry, they had superior first floors. While TIC has addressed some features like including walk-in pantries in the kitchens and larger upstairs laundries... the feel of the space is more like a condo than an SFR.

The location of Mulberry is good as it is close to the pool, parks and future Elem. You can hear the freeway outside but once they build out the rest of Cypress Village, that noise will decrease. Not sure why test mentioned train noise as these homes are much farther away from the tracks than Columbus Square/Tustin Legacy is.

I think overall, the neighborhood is nice... it has a shopping center nearby, will have both Elem and Middle school... just the prices are too much for what they are giving you. I wonder if TIC considers CV more premium than Stonegate considering the products are a bit inferior but cost the same or more.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 06, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
I saw Mulberry with IR2 today... it was underwhelming to me.

These reminded me of the detached condos where you open your front door and the entire first floor is there. Although there is a foyer... it's not as separated from the rest of the home, so the downstairs feel really small. Like qwerty said, the kitchens are not very big. It's very strange how these homes are situated, almost like a box, not very long, not very wide (not counting the garage).

The garages do feel smaller, not only in width but also in depth... my unofficial measurements have them at 18x19... another box. They should have left at least one of them in the default configuration so you can see how much bigger the garage would be with the extra space in the back.

I will say that the 10 foot ceilings are nice... because it does have a smaller footprint, the higher ceilings makes it better (I think the garage ceiling is higher too). The Plan 3 downstairs is better because it has a more separated foyer (with a vaulted ceiling for ps9) and a downstairs room.

The upstairs are much better... good space and the masters are not too small (I think Plan 1 master felt the biggest). The master bathroom/closets are still small though. The Plan 3 upstairs is very large... nice loft space.

For these price points, in my opinion, they are not very good. Mendocino/Maricopa felt more "housey" which is weird to me because I'm not a big fan of their layouts either but compared to Mulberry, they had superior first floors. While TIC has addressed some features like including walk-in pantries in the kitchens and larger upstairs laundries... the feel of the space is more like a condo than an SFR.

The location of Mulberry is good as it is close to the pool, parks and future Elem. You can hear the freeway outside but once they build out the rest of Cypress Village, that noise will decrease. Not sure why test mentioned train noise as these homes are much farther away from the tracks than Columbus Square/Tustin Legacy is.

I think overall, the neighborhood is nice... it has a shopping center nearby, will have both Elem and Middle school... just the prices are too much for what they are giving you. I wonder if TIC considers CV more premium than Stonegate considering the products are a bit inferior but cost the same or more.

I did forget about the high ceilings...I did like those.

I don't know if they think the CV is more premium than SG, it's just that they get to start at a higher price point.  They probably "underpriced" SG and have been playing catchup ever since.   You cannot jump $20K per phase.  My sense is that the second iterations of the various models at SG will be much more expensive.

Also, CV feeds into Irvine High while SG feeds into Northwood.

Another consideration is the traffic on Jeffrey side.  The traffic is pretty bad there already with the shopping center...I cannot imagine what it would be like when there are a bunch of houses.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 06, 2013, 03:49:13 PM
Also, CV feeds into Irvine High while SG feeds into Northwood.


not for long, soon SG, WB, CV, PS, WBE, SGE will all feed into the great park high school in the fall of 2015? 2016?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: OCgasman on May 06, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
Also, CV feeds into Irvine High while SG feeds into Northwood.
For now, but CV will most likely get re-zoned to the new Heritage Park HS along with WB, PS and possibly SG.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 06, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
If WB and CV get rezoned to GP HS there will be too few students in IHS.  GP will have 10,000 homes which is enough to fill GP HS by itself.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on May 06, 2013, 08:45:36 PM
I'm really behind on my model home tours.. still gotta see Mendocino, Branches, Willow Bend, and Cypress Hill
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Homer_Simpson on May 06, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
I'm really behind on my model home tours.. still gotta see Mendocino, Branches, Willow Bend, and Cypress Hill

Wait what??? Are they on tour??
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on May 06, 2013, 09:43:54 PM


Mind boggling trying to visualize that third leg sticking out of the basketball short.

I think I saw you :)

did you see a mexican guy with an asian wife in basketball shorts and tshirt? if so, that was me!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 07, 2013, 09:10:53 AM
false information. more than half of GP/HF homes will be zoned to El Toro High School.

If WB and CV get rezoned to GP HS there will be too few students in IHS.  GP will have 10,000 homes which is enough to fill GP HS by itself.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Pippi on May 07, 2013, 09:23:08 AM
I'm really behind on my model home tours.. still gotta see Mendocino, Branches, Willow Bend, and Cypress Hill

Wait what??? Are they on tour??

 :D LOL, I'm Insane in the Brain to get this one.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 07, 2013, 10:30:14 AM
false information. more than half of GP/HF homes will be zoned to El Toro High School.

If WB and CV get rezoned to GP HS there will be too few students in IHS.  GP will have 10,000 homes which is enough to fill GP HS by itself.

You need to look at the zoning map and where the homes are going foo.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 07, 2013, 10:52:11 AM
unless Larry Agran is lying (for which I will not be surprised):
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2013-04-13/news/tn-dpt-0414-irvine-council-high-school-20130413_1_school-board-fivepoint-communities-40-acre-parcel/2
 "While developer FivePoint Communites plans to build 5,800 residential units close to Site A, the homes would be within the Saddleback Unified School District, catering to El Toro High School, he said."

false information. more than half of GP/HF homes will be zoned to El Toro High School.

If WB and CV get rezoned to GP HS there will be too few students in IHS.  GP will have 10,000 homes which is enough to fill GP HS by itself.

You need to look at the zoning map and where the homes are going foo.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 07, 2013, 11:41:12 AM
unless Larry Agran is lying (for which I will not be surprised):
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2013-04-13/news/tn-dpt-0414-irvine-council-high-school-20130413_1_school-board-fivepoint-communities-40-acre-parcel/2
 "While developer FivePoint Communites plans to build 5,800 residential units close to Site A, the homes would be within the Saddleback Unified School District, catering to El Toro High School, he said."
You just made 5 Points home prices drop by 15%.

Although SoCal says SVSD has better parental involvement than IUSD.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: hushdc on May 07, 2013, 12:18:11 PM

You just made 5 Points home prices drop by 15%.

Although SoCal says SVSD has better parental involvement than IUSD.

Isn't Saddleback USD as good as IRVINEs? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on May 07, 2013, 12:23:34 PM
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/rankings?name=school+name&schooltypepublic=y&schooltypemagnet=y&state=ca&county=saddleback%2Cirvine&schooltypecharter=y (http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/rankings?name=school+name&schooltypepublic=y&schooltypemagnet=y&state=ca&county=saddleback%2Cirvine&schooltypecharter=y)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 07, 2013, 12:34:40 PM
unless Larry Agran is lying (for which I will not be surprised):
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2013-04-13/news/tn-dpt-0414-irvine-council-high-school-20130413_1_school-board-fivepoint-communities-40-acre-parcel/2
 "While developer FivePoint Communites plans to build 5,800 residential units close to Site A, the homes would be within the Saddleback Unified School District, catering to El Toro High School, he said."
You just made 5 Points home prices drop by 15%.

Although SoCal says SVSD has better parental involvement than IUSD.

Pick an area where language barrier is a non-issue with the parents. That is one of the biggest things that holds them back from helping out. It's the lack of confidence. - Source: Me / Regular weekly classroom volunteer and English Literacy tutor who has worked with immigrant parents in the area. Also noted by some of the teachers I've spoken to. (Remember, a lot of the IUSD teachers do not live in Irvine but live here where I am. Teachers often have experience working in various districts.)

If the intended school is in Lake Forest, I would hedge my bets by looking further away from the freeway. I think you'll find a higher percentage of English-speakers in other areas within the district. Look for demographic info on the Great School website.

However, when it comes to El Toro high -- parental involvement is a moot point. There are no parent classroom helpers anywhere doing hand-holding at the high school level.  ;)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 07, 2013, 12:41:09 PM
I guess because my ears are trained to understand almost any ethnicity, there is no language barrier. Funny, in our classroom, the volunteers are usually the non-caucasian parents so I stand out as the lone Austrian.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 07, 2013, 12:48:02 PM
I guess because my ears are trained to understand almost any ethnicity, there is no language barrier. Funny, in our classroom, the volunteers are usually the non-caucasian parents so I stand out as the lone Austrian.

If there is a small percentages of Caucasian families in the classroom to start with, mathematically speaking it wouldn't be a shocker. At our last IUSD classroom at Stonegate Elementary, there were only 2 non-Asian kids... and one of them was the teacher's kid who actually lives in F.R. but got special admission. Both kids have since left the school. Now what is the percentage?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 07, 2013, 01:40:26 PM
I saw Mulberry with IR2 today... it was underwhelming to me.

I admire IR2's patience with you. Is it more than 500 homes that he showed you in the last couple of years?
That sounds about right (well... not 500 but quite a few).

And to show how picky we are (and how even more patient Scott is)... I believe we only submitted offers on 3 or 4.

That's why we tend to look for Open Houses, while Scott is very patient, sometimes we are just being looky loos.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 07, 2013, 03:17:51 PM
I guess because my ears are trained to understand almost any ethnicity, there is no language barrier. Funny, in our classroom, the volunteers are usually the non-caucasian parents so I stand out as the lone Austrian.

In our school, the Caucasian parents are the ones with the language barriers.

Haha, funny.  :)

Since we're on the topic anyway of English Literacy, if anybody is interested in providing help as a tutor, give me a holler. When I checked a few months ago, the waiting list was approx. 2 years long for those seeking help. It is not necessary to be a native English speaker although it helps.

The people that come to me for help are very motivated. Typically when you sit down with them and ask, "So, what do you want to learn?" Their answer is: "Everything!" That is an extremely common response!

School parents want to learn how to do things like: read and understand field trip permission slips, read to their child in English with a diminished accent, help their child with their homework (English text books), do a parent-teacher conference, etc. They also want to understand the culture, idioms, and to know if their child (especially teenager!) is behaving appropriately in things they say and do when they are interacting with peers and teachers. The list is long. Many want to go on to achieve their own goals such as citizenship, how to do a job interview in English, etc.

If a person reading this can help and might be interested, please think about it.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled programming: Cypress Village Homes.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on May 07, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
Maybe you can start a new thread that might get people's attention?

I guess because my ears are trained to understand almost any ethnicity, there is no language barrier. Funny, in our classroom, the volunteers are usually the non-caucasian parents so I stand out as the lone Austrian.

In our school, the Caucasian parents are the ones with the language barriers.

Haha, funny.  :)

Since we're on the topic anyway of English Literacy, if anybody is interested in providing help as a tutor, give me a holler. When I checked a few months ago, the waiting list was approx. 2 years long for those seeking help. It is not necessary to be a native English speaker although it helps.

The people that come to me for help are very motivated. Typically when you sit down with them and ask, "So, what do you want to learn?" Their answer is: "Everything!" That is an extremely common response!

School parents want to learn how to do things like: read and understand field trip permission slips, read to their child in English with a diminished accent, help their child with their homework (English text books), do a parent-teacher conference, etc. They also want to understand the culture, idioms, and to know if their child (especially teenager!) is behaving appropriately in things they say and do when they are interacting with peers and teachers. The list is long. Many want to go on to achieve their own goals such as citizenship, how to do a job interview in English, etc.

If a person reading this can help and might be interested, please think about it.

Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled programming: Cypress Village Homes.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: SoCal on May 08, 2013, 08:16:26 AM
Maybe you can start a new thread that might get people's attention?

Yup, there is one here: Volunteer Programs (http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,2955.msg44745.html#msg44745). The thread was pretty much D.O.A., though.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 08, 2013, 08:56:06 PM
Hehe... latest TIC campaign, "Cypress Village Toured by Thousands!":

http://www2.villagesofirvine.com/mk/get/CV008

(http://www2.villagesofirvine.com/tic_web/images/CV008/header.jpg)

I think Homer is in that picture somewhere. And whose kids are these?

(http://www2.villagesofirvine.com/tic_web/images/CV008/grand_fun.png)

Should adopt McD's slogan "Thousands Served!" (and I mean the less flattering version of "served").
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Coleman on May 11, 2013, 11:43:38 PM
The Mulberry prices on the flier don't seem to reflect what I recall seeing on their brochure.

I wasn't too impressed with Marigold. 

I did like the "office, dog bath, or gym room" in the backyard of the Mulberry homes.  They have a couple nice features in those homes compared to Mendocino in SG.  However, I still feel like the builders are missing something that separates them from the rest. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on May 12, 2013, 08:13:28 PM
A lot more coming...TIC copy machine working overtime..

1. Santa Rosa, 98 units (these look like the same homes in Stonegate East/Woodbury East). These are always built as barriers to a major free way (133 and 5)....

2. Santa Barbara, 116 units (copied from Woodbury..)

3. San Mateo, 102 units (copied from Stonegate...)

4. Garden Court, 80 units (attached/detached condoes from Cal Pac; at least something new I guess).

5. Un-named SFRs, 94 units (2200~2600 sqft). Mendocino copy?

http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031597
http://www.irvinequickrecords.com/SIREPUB/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=14031598


#5 is Mulberry.  Just got confirmation from Mulberry sale staff and they are building more Mulberry homes at this site.  84 units at original site and 94 more at this site with total of 178 units.  That's a lot of Mulberries.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: broda on May 13, 2013, 07:08:00 PM

I like the fact that they finally started changing up the outside of the homes to have a slightly different look.  Seems like someone told their designers to modify their templates for the outside as well as the inside.  I agree Marigold was underwhelming for what they are selling it for. 

Best part if Magnolia was I walked in they didn't even bother looking my way since I didn't look like some FCB.  And to the ones they did approach they said "oh you don't want that package, that's a loan package.  This is the package for cash buyers."

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: snowblind40 on May 13, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
Maybe you can start a new thread that might get people's attention?

Yup, there is one here: Volunteer Programs (http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,2955.msg44745.html#msg44745). The thread was pretty much D.O.A., though.


Waaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiitttt a minute here....   You are asking us to provide FREE tutoring to these FCBs and help them integrate into irvine society?!?  Seems to me, of they can afford a house in irvine with cash on hand that they should be more than willing to pay for a service like this. 2 year wait list for free tutoring?  Maybe someone needs to start an ESL class for adults who buy homes and move here.  And Get their clients from real estate agents,
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: NYT on May 14, 2013, 02:37:11 AM
What does everyone think of the marketing of similar names for these 3 communities? Mulberry, Magnolia, Marigold. I get them all confused. I usually can't recall one of the M's. And certainly don't ask me to tell you which is which. Or is it just me?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 20, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
Just visited Magnolia for the first time...the first two plans are pretty meh but plan 3 is pretty darn cool.

The high ceiling in the great room is impressive.  You walk into the room and feel like you're in a much bigger house.  Also liked the sliding stacked doors...no view though.  I also liked the design of the downstairs bedroom...good use of the space under the stairs. 
Upstairs was also well-designed with large master bedroom and bathrooms. 

Only thing is the price...$992,000 to start...probably end up at $1.2 M after all the upgrades and options.   :-\
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bella on May 25, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
After a long hiatus we returned to home hunting today and visited Mulberry.  The entryway for residence one was grand, the high ceilings make the entire space feel bigger. We liked the california garage/office space in the back and the optional conservatory. We also liked the upstairs loft B option, which we would use as a gym. I asked the sales rep how much it would be to add the optional loft and california garage, he said 8-10k for the garage office and 12-15k for the upstairs additional loft.
The residence one feels bigger than the square footage on paper. I also liked the butler's walk in pantry off the kitchen.  The HOA is pretty reasonable as well.

He said there are 50-100 people on the waiting list now.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on May 25, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
That's what I'm talking about (even if its just one extra foot).. Dead air space = money in the bank....better than a 3CWG anyday...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 25, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
12-15k for aloft is a ripoff. In general most upgrades are ripoff but this involves no vaseline
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 25, 2013, 06:15:54 PM
He said there are 50-100 people on the waiting list now.

Looks like people are dropping out.  He told me there were over 100 a few weeks ago.  They priced these too high.  When there are no more suckers willing to buy there will be panic price drops.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on May 25, 2013, 06:45:25 PM
He said there are 50-100 people on the waiting list now.

Looks like people are dropping out.  He told me there were over 100 a few weeks ago.  They priced these too high.  When there are no more suckers willing to buy there will be panic price drops.

Hopefully that'll be the case.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 25, 2013, 06:48:04 PM
50-100 doesn't sound like a lot considering 5000 people showed up on opening weekend
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 25, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
Has TIC ever dropped prices?? Or will they just give out a bunch of incentives?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on May 25, 2013, 07:13:19 PM
Has TIC ever dropped prices?? Or will they just give out a bunch of incentives?

i think they give out incentives (e.g. backyard landscaping for san remo)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on May 26, 2013, 11:25:36 AM
Has TIC ever dropped prices?? Or will they just give out a bunch of incentives?
They dropped prices ONCE....at Laguna Altura about 6 months after they started selling the homes.  Other than that, no other price drops but they threw in incentives.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 26, 2013, 01:36:45 PM
Has TIC ever dropped prices?? Or will they just give out a bunch of incentives?
They dropped prices ONCE....at Laguna Altura about 6 months after they started selling the homes.  Other than that, no other price drops but they threw in incentives.

Laguna Altura started selling at the market bottom.  Cypress Village at the market top.  They're nuts, they know nothing.  This is a different kind of market.  And TIC is asleep.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on May 26, 2013, 01:45:20 PM
Because of you Test a team of profiling professional is happily employed.


Has TIC ever dropped prices?? Or will they just give out a bunch of incentives?
They dropped prices ONCE....at Laguna Altura about 6 months after they started selling the homes.  Other than that, no other price drops but they threw in incentives.

Laguna Altura started selling at the market bottom.  Cypress Village at the market top.  They're nuts, they know nothing.  This is a different kind of market.  And TIC is asleep.


Title: How long it takes to get pre-approved - Marigold
Post by: obirvine on May 28, 2013, 11:08:34 AM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?
Title: Re: How long it takes to get pre-approved - Marigold
Post by: Pippi on May 28, 2013, 11:20:21 AM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?

Took 2 or 3 days for my WFB pre-approval, however, mine wasn't for a TIC community.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on May 28, 2013, 12:08:01 PM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?
I'm sure they are swamped with buyers wanting to get pre-approvals done to get on the various waitlists so I'm sure they just don't have the manpower to go through them in a timely manner.  I'd keep following up with them every 2-3 days until you get it. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on May 28, 2013, 02:10:21 PM
They are going through and processing apps from FCBs first.  When the market tanks there's less chance these buyers will cancel and flood TIC with unsold inventory.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 28, 2013, 02:24:46 PM
All cash buyers into the urgent pile... financing buyers into the 6 month wait pile.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on May 28, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
language translation takes time.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jamboreedude on May 28, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
No need to rush to buy a home in Irvine now. Going forward in the next 2-3 years, there will be plenty of new construction, with 10,000 homes planned for the Great Park neighborhood alone.  Don't fall for TIC marketing gimmick on their website "Call for Availability" bull crap for Cypress Village, and their other villages.  Good things happens to those who wait? I think this is so true this time around!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on May 28, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?

You should get pre-qualified letter pretty soon.  I have dealt with Well fargo before and they are very pleasant to work with.  Just remember,  it is when you summit the your application that counts,  not when you'll get the approval.  Sooner you summit your application, higher up you are on their list. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jamboreedude on May 28, 2013, 11:20:52 PM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?

You should get pre-qualified letter pretty soon.  I have dealt with Well fargo before and they are very pleasant to work with.  Just remember,  it is when you summit the your application that counts,  not when you'll get the approval.  Sooner you summit your application, higher up you are on their list.

Sell when everyone is mostly buying, buy when everyone is mostly selling. Be greedy when others are in fear! The fear will be here soon, late 2013 or 2014. Forget the list. The list is for fools.
Title: Re: How long it takes to get pre-approved - Marigold
Post by: quattroporte on May 29, 2013, 12:26:37 PM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?

Wells Fargo told me that it takes 7 business days, but they took close to 3 weeks. Stearn's Lending (for William Lyons Homes) took less than 24 hours to get preapproved and be placed on priority list.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: quattroporte on May 29, 2013, 12:31:22 PM
I filled the application for pre-approval and submitted all the documents more than 2 weeks ago. I haven't received any call from Wells Fargo yet. I emailed them twice and got the canned response - "We are in the process of completing the preapproval and will reach out to you if anything else is needed".

Any idea how long it takes them to pre-approve?

You should get pre-qualified letter pretty soon.  I have dealt with Well fargo before and they are very pleasant to work with.  Just remember,  it is when you summit the your application that counts,  not when you'll get the approval.  Sooner you summit your application, higher up you are on their list.

Wells Fargo didnt send me any letter. They just emailed me and CC'd the IP sales office telling them I was preapproved.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
No need to rush to buy a home in Irvine now. Going forward in the next 2-3 years, there will be plenty of new construction, with 10,000 homes planned for the Great Park neighborhood alone.  Don't fall for TIC marketing gimmick on their website "Call for Availability" bull crap for Cypress Village, and their other villages.  Good things happens to those who wait? I think this is so true this time around!

Hate to sound like a NAR shill but there is good reason to "buy now"

1)  Interest rates will go up...question is how fast and how high.  We are able to buy in Irvine largely because the interest is low.  If you bump the interests up a few points, some people will get priced out.

2)  Great Park is not the same as SG, Woodbury or CV.  The key point would be that the GP is over superfund site and a former military base.

3)  A significant portion of GP will not be in the Irvine school district which is a big reason why people buy in Irvine

4)  I just don't think the prices will come down.  They may not increase by a lot but they are not going down.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: cowlemon on May 29, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
unless the sequester causes our economy to go into a recession....
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 29, 2013, 04:31:27 PM
Hate to sound like a NAR shill but there is good reason to "buy now"

1)  Interest rates will go up...question is how fast and how high.  We are able to buy in Irvine largely because the interest is low.  If you bump the interests up a few points, some people will get priced out.


dont you think there are others like you and if you and those like you would get priced out due to a rate increase, dont you think that would shrink the demand side of the equation leading to lower prices?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
Hate to sound like a NAR shill but there is good reason to "buy now"

1)  Interest rates will go up...question is how fast and how high.  We are able to buy in Irvine largely because the interest is low.  If you bump the interests up a few points, some people will get priced out.


dont you think there are others like you and if you and those like you would get priced out due to a rate increase, dont you think that would shrink the demand side of the equation leading to lower prices?

Definitely...but you would get a stalemate.  Prices won't go down and a few buyers would be available.  Just means that people get stuck renting in a rising rent market.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 29, 2013, 04:45:18 PM
Hate to sound like a NAR shill but there is good reason to "buy now"

1)  Interest rates will go up...question is how fast and how high.  We are able to buy in Irvine largely because the interest is low.  If you bump the interests up a few points, some people will get priced out.


dont you think there are others like you and if you and those like you would get priced out due to a rate increase, dont you think that would shrink the demand side of the equation leading to lower prices?

Definitely...but you would get a stalemate.  Prices won't go down and a few buyers would be available.  Just means that people get stuck renting in a rising rent market.

i would agree that you would get a stalemate at first, but if demand stayed low and TIC wanted to move product they would have no choice but to drop the price to match the buyers affordability levels. or they may just halt construction, let the demand build up for a couple of years, raise prices 20% from their current levels and wait for the suckers, i mean FCBs to come to the rescue.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 29, 2013, 05:02:31 PM
if demand stayed low and TIC wanted to move product they would have no choice but to drop the price to match the buyers affordability levels. or they may just halt construction, let the demand build up for a couple of years, raise prices 20% from their current levels and wait for the suckers, i mean FCBs to come to the rescue.
But IndieDev said TIC doesn't stop building.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
Hate to sound like a NAR shill but there is good reason to "buy now"

1)  Interest rates will go up...question is how fast and how high.  We are able to buy in Irvine largely because the interest is low.  If you bump the interests up a few points, some people will get priced out.


dont you think there are others like you and if you and those like you would get priced out due to a rate increase, dont you think that would shrink the demand side of the equation leading to lower prices?

Definitely...but you would get a stalemate.  Prices won't go down and a few buyers would be available.  Just means that people get stuck renting in a rising rent market.

i would agree that you would get a stalemate at first, but if demand stayed low and TIC wanted to move product they would have no choice but to drop the price to match the buyers affordability levels. or they may just halt construction, let the demand build up for a couple of years, raise prices 20% from their current levels and wait for the suckers, i mean FCBs to come to the rescue.

I believe there was a discussion about this and TIC only dropped price one time in LA.  They will just halt construction...that's why they are selling in phases.  They have little or no carrying costs because they don't build the house until you pay for it.  It will just stay stagnant.  But in the interim, renter will stay renters.  If you are okay with that, that's fine. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: IrvineRealtor on May 29, 2013, 05:31:41 PM
There are no stalemates in real estate.

-IR2
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
There are no stalemates in real estate.

-IR2

In the Game of Real Estate...you sell, you buy or you die.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on June 14, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
I don't know who designs the street layout, but I would think they would choose a layout that creates a higher number of "premium" lots and also provides some family type streets.

Current on the left, IHO-style on the right:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/fumglh.jpg)

Same space, same number of homes but in this configuration, you get 4 cul-de-sacs and 8 more lots that are "corner" lots. Wouldn't that be better?

And if you're worried about the Feng Shui T homes, you can add another cross street in the middle that would add 4 more corner lots (but I think you lose 2 homes).


6 culdesacs, on the left, even better.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2143v6c.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on June 16, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
What do you think IP will build here? It's so close to the freeway, I can't imagine these selling well.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pFgIIqgBxDw/Ub6gJ2I64jI/AAAAAAAAAG4/p7bAgXN87UU/w1264-h903-no/tract+map.jpg)

Notice the tract in the top left corner.  Those lots look pretty big.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 16, 2013, 11:15:26 PM
The 6 cul de sacs on the left will not be Mulberry... different lot shapes. The other Mulberry project is the one on the right (labeled "Project Site").
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on June 17, 2013, 06:36:51 PM
Sextuple culdesacs.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IZ5vpegzopk/Ub-40Oayq0I/AAAAAAAAAIE/zIeNgCQSLKo/w1169-h903-no/Tract+Map.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on December 26, 2013, 12:01:06 AM
How many people on this forum are in CV?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on December 26, 2013, 07:29:13 AM
How many people on this forum are in CV?

Are we taking a roll call?

In that case, I'm here. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on December 26, 2013, 09:23:18 AM
Just the two of us...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 04, 2014, 04:20:57 PM
Just the two of us...

Make that 3 of us.  Of course I also know for a fact there are at least 2 other members that's on here that's also CV residents.  How do I know?  Because I talked with them in person.  But they are not the posting types.   ::)

Anyhow I was wondering if anyone knows what developments are coming next for Cypress Village????  There's a big plot of land between the elementary school, Marigold, apartments, and Jade Court.  From satellite view it looks like it's being graded for single family homes. 

To see what I mean, click on the "Interactive Homesite Map" at http://www.ryland.com/find-your-new-home/21-southern-california/6022-acacia-at-cypress-village.html
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 04, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Just the two of us...

Make that 3 of us.  Of course I also know for a fact there are at least 2 other members that's on here that's also CV residents.  How do I know?  Because I talked with them in person.  But they are not the posting types.   ::)

Anyhow I was wondering if anyone knows what developments are coming next for Cypress Village????  There's a big plot of land between the elementary school, Marigold, apartments, and Jade Court.  From satellite view it looks like it's being graded for single family homes. 

To see what I mean, click on the "Interactive Homesite Map" at http://www.ryland.com/find-your-new-home/21-southern-california/6022-acacia-at-cypress-village.html

That would be Laurel

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,11163.0.html



Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 04, 2014, 05:14:46 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 04, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Area is closest to the 405 freeway and therefore ocean? The homes west of 405 carry a higher price than homes east of the 405 and it varies based on closeness to the ocean. It is usually a few degrees cooler west of the 405 vs the east and thus translates into a higher home premium.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 04, 2014, 09:02:14 PM
Test, why do you say CV is the best of the north Irvine villages? How do you think Northpark (+Square) compares?

CV is the best location wise.  NP is assigned to TUSD which is a negative.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on January 04, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Test, why do you say CV is the best of the north Irvine villages? How do you think Northpark (+Square) compares?

CV is the best location wise.  NP is assigned to TUSD which is a negative.

The schools assigned to NP have good rankings. Plus the TUSD students get a free iPad.  ;)

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php?topic=11116.0
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 04, 2014, 09:07:19 PM
Test, why do you say CV is the best of the north Irvine villages? How do you think Northpark (+Square) compares?

CV is the best location wise.  NP is assigned to TUSD which is a negative.

The schools assigned to NP have good rankings. Plus the TUSD students get a free iPad.  ;)

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php?topic=11116.0

It's not free, they raised your taxes to pay for it  ;)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jmoney74 on January 04, 2014, 09:34:49 PM
The schools for that part of tusd is quite good.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 04, 2014, 10:39:31 PM
The schools for that part of tusd is quite good.

Good, but not Irvine good for Irvine prices.

Beckman High: 886 API, 29% Mexican

Northwood High: 921 API, 5% Mexican

TUSD shuttles students from Santa Ana to Beckman so they don't have to mix with North Tustin students where the board members are from.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on January 04, 2014, 11:21:02 PM
The schools for that part of tusd is quite good.

Good, but not Irvine good for Irvine prices.

Beckman High: 886 API, 29% Mexican

Northwood High: 921 API, 5% Mexican

TUSD shuttles students from Santa Ana to Beckman so they don't have to mix with North Tustin students where the board members are from.

Beckman is still a good school. I rather live in NP vs. living in the Central Park West area in Irvine, where your kid had to go to a school in the Santa Ana school district.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 04, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 09:02:05 AM
The schools for that part of tusd is quite good.

Good, but not Irvine good for Irvine prices.

Beckman High: 886 API, 29% Mexican

Northwood High: 921 API, 5% Mexican

TUSD shuttles students from Santa Ana to Beckman so they don't have to mix with North Tustin students where the board members are from.

Is that rumor or fact? Source?

Look at the attendance boundaries for Beckman.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 05, 2014, 09:14:17 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 05, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 10:35:13 AM
The schools for that part of tusd is quite good.

Good, but not Irvine good for Irvine prices.

Beckman High: 886 API, 29% Mexican

Northwood High: 921 API, 5% Mexican

TUSD shuttles students from Santa Ana to Beckman so they don't have to mix with North Tustin students where the board members are from.

Is that rumor or fact? Source?

Look at the attendance boundaries for Beckman.

I see, so "rumor."

Um, ok.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 10:35:31 AM
Good, but not Irvine good for Irvine prices.

Beckman High: 886 API, 29% Mexican Latino

Northwood High: 921 910 API, 5 7 % Mexican Latino

TUSD shuttles students from Santa Ana to Beckman so they don't have to mix with North Tustin students where the board members are from.

There, fixed that for you. You already have a reputation for ignorance, don't call every single person of Latino heritage a "Mexican." It isn't helping.

Source: http://school-ratings.com/school_details/30736503030657.html

You have something against Mexicans?  Racist.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on January 05, 2014, 10:42:03 AM
Test, why do you say CV is the best of the north Irvine villages? How do you think Northpark (+Square) compares?

CV is the best location wise.  NP is assigned to TUSD which is a negative.


Location location location...

While I see that the good TUSD schools assigned to NP will get even better over time (given demographic trends/new housing in the area), I don't see how you will make CV's adjacent air/noise polluting I-5 freeway any less distant.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 05, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
While I agree that having a freeway right behind your home is not ideal, some people prefer the convenience of having quick access to the freeway. If you look at Laguna Altura it has a high premium for being west of the 405, convenient freeway access, and being closer to the ocean. However it sits right where all the major freeways are and probably collects lots of car exhaust fumes.

Another example is downtown LA or those that live in Westwood and Brentwood, near the 405. Look how much it costs to live there. Plenty of exposure to pollution from the freeways. It is what it is and at the end of the day people will pick and choose based on their preferences and what they can afford.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 05, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 11:05:01 AM
Test, why do you say CV is the best of the north Irvine villages? How do you think Northpark (+Square) compares?

CV is the best location wise.  NP is assigned to TUSD which is a negative.


Location location location...

While I see that the good TUSD schools assigned to NP will get even better over time (given demographic trends/new housing in the area), I don't see how you will make CV's adjacent air/noise polluting I-5 freeway any less distant.

You should tell that to the poor folks paying $4m to live right next to the 110.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/900-W-Olympic-Blvd-90015/unit-44G/home/49799717
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 05, 2014, 11:13:42 AM
Not even close in my life to be able to fathom the kind of wealth that can afford to live in those Ritz Carlton condos.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Good, but not Irvine good for Irvine prices.

Beckman High: 886 API, 29% Mexican Latino

Northwood High: 921 910 API, 5 7 % Mexican Latino

TUSD shuttles students from Santa Ana to Beckman so they don't have to mix with North Tustin students where the board members are from.

There, fixed that for you. You already have a reputation for ignorance, don't call every single person of Latino heritage a "Mexican." It isn't helping.

Source: http://school-ratings.com/school_details/30736503030657.html

You have something against Mexicans?  Racist.

You've re-classified an entire group of people who are identified as Latino as "Mexican." And your API information was flat out wrong.

Are you saying Mexicans aren't Hispanic or Latino?  Are you saying someone from Spain and someone from Brazil are the same group?  Who's the one reclassifying people I don't know but it's not me.

And your API information is flat out wrong.

http://www.greatschools.org/california/irvine/11032-Northwood-High-School/?tab=test-scores
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 05, 2014, 12:05:12 PM
8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on January 05, 2014, 12:22:18 PM
Round 3 (or is it 4?) :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 03:20:08 PM
You did a classic racist move and stereotyped an entire race as "Mexican,"

That's what you did.  Thinking Mexicans (a race) are the same as Puerto Ricans (a race) and lumping them together as Latinos (not a race).  That's racist.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on January 05, 2014, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: test link=topic=3636.msg216088#msg216088

You should tell that to the poor folks paying $4m to live right next to the 110.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/900-W-Olympic-Blvd-90015/unit-44G/home/49799717

Apples to oranges comparison. I'm sure CV is a great place to live and has many good qualities but being adjacent to the 5 is not one of them. It is still enjoyable to see you defend that position.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 05, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: test link=topic=3636.msg216088#msg216088

You should tell that to the poor folks paying $4m to live right next to the 110.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/900-W-Olympic-Blvd-90015/unit-44G/home/49799717

Apples to oranges comparison. I'm sure CV is a great place to live and has many good qualities but being adjacent to the 5 is not one of them. It is still enjoyable to see you defend that position.

You said:

I don't see how you will make CV's adjacent air/noise polluting I-5 freeway any less distant.

Does that mean:

1) The condo in LA is an apple, it is mobile and can move further away from the freeway over time unlike the oranges in CV that are stationary?

or

2) The 110 freeway is an orange and doesn't have any air/noise pollution like the apple 5 freeway?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jmoney74 on January 05, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
People in LA move to prime areas for convenient purposes and that's like many big cities.  That's why there is no comparison. For irvine suburbia, its different. Although not sure if you'll get much view or noise level from the 5 from cv.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 05, 2014, 04:27:27 PM
:P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on January 05, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
Quote from: test link=topic=3636.msg216088#msg216088

You should tell that to the poor folks paying $4m to live right next to the 110.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/900-W-Olympic-Blvd-90015/unit-44G/home/49799717

Apples to oranges comparison. I'm sure CV is a great place to live and has many good qualities but being adjacent to the 5 is not one of them. It is still enjoyable to see you defend that position.

You said:

I don't see how you will make CV's adjacent air/noise polluting I-5 freeway any less distant.

Does that mean:

1) The condo in LA is an apple, it is mobile and can move further away from the freeway over time unlike the oranges in CV that are stationary?

or

2) The 110 freeway is an orange and doesn't have any air/noise pollution like the apple 5 freeway?


Just for fun let us look at differences between LA at Staples Center/LA Live versus Cypress Village:

LA
--High density community, many high rise condo projects in area
--Walking distance access to LA Live complex including bars, restaurants, clubs, sporting venues etc...
--Close proximity to major downtown office towers

CV
--Lower density stucco beige boxes with little to no yards
--Walking distance to a generic strip mall

 People buy $4M condos at LA Live NOT because of the proximity to the 110 freeway but all the other area amenities. So unless you will be turning CV into LA in the next few years, many potential buyers in IRVINE will consider freeway proximity in their purchase. Use the search button and you will see several threads regarding home purchasing and road noise/pollution.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 05, 2014, 08:17:28 PM
I live about 25 minutes from the closest freeway and while it is nice to be more secluded from the hustle and bustle, it has become very inconvenient and a pain driving back and forth just to get to the freeway. In my recent home purchase, I was looking to be closer to a major freeway and am happy having such easy access. Again it is all perspective but there are plenty of people out there that want to live closer to the freeway as opposed to further.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on January 05, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
convenience to the freeway is good as long as you cant hear it. i am 1.5 miles from the 55, 2 miles from the 5, the 405 is a bit further at 3.7 miles.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 05, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: gaysian on January 05, 2014, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: test link=topic=3636.msg216088#msg216088

You should tell that to the poor folks paying $4m to live right next to the 110.

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/900-W-Olympic-Blvd-90015/unit-44G/home/49799717

Apples to oranges comparison. I'm sure CV is a great place to live and has many good qualities but being adjacent to the 5 is not one of them. It is still enjoyable to see you defend that position.

You said:

I don't see how you will make CV's adjacent air/noise polluting I-5 freeway any less distant.

Does that mean:

1) The condo in LA is an apple, it is mobile and can move further away from the freeway over time unlike the oranges in CV that are stationary?

or

2) The 110 freeway is an orange and doesn't have any air/noise pollution like the apple 5 freeway?


Just for fun let us look at differences between LA at Staples Center/LA Live versus Cypress Village:

LA
--High density community, many high rise condo projects in area
--Walking distance access to LA Live complex including bars, restaurants, clubs, sporting venues etc...
--Close proximity to major downtown office towers

CV
--Lower density stucco beige boxes with little to no yards
--Walking distance to a generic strip mall

 People buy $4M condos at LA Live NOT because of the proximity to the 110 freeway but all the other area amenities. So unless you will be turning CV into LA in the next few years, many potential buyers in IRVINE will consider freeway proximity in their purchase. Use the search button and you will see several threads regarding home purchasing and road noise/pollution.

I'm considering Cypress Village and proximity to the freeway IS important to me, so I agree.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: quattroporte on January 06, 2014, 09:57:21 AM
It's 29% Latino, which includes Mexicans (along with other Latinos - Guatemalans, Salvadorans, Brazilians, etc).

You did a classic racist move and stereotyped an entire race as "Mexican," where the data doesn't reflect that subgroup - it reflects the superset, not the subset.

You are confusing test. You need to use easier words when conversing with test. He doesnt know the meaning of superset nor subset.....hence no reply back.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: zubs on January 06, 2014, 10:07:22 AM
One reason I dislike Rancho PV is that it takes 30-40 minutes with a million traffic lights to get to the freeway.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 06, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
One reason I dislike Rancho PV is that it takes 30-40 minutes with a million traffic lights to get to the freeway.

That's the same reason I didn't choose Lake Forest.  It takes 15 minutes on all green or 30 minutes with some red lights just to get myself to a freeway.  Of course it's 10 minutes to a toll road but I'd rather not pay toll.

The homes in Lake Forest are large spacious with the 10,000 sq. feet lot sizes.  But it all comes down to the commute for the family.  Hence I chose CV.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jmoney74 on January 06, 2014, 10:31:26 AM
being relatively close to the FWY is important.  I like CV's general location. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 06, 2014, 10:35:04 AM
Clearly proximity to freeway access is important to many people. 8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 06, 2014, 10:41:32 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 09, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
You have people on here disecting the most trivial things. Splitting hairs on things that are probably first world problems. Anyways, all the villages are great in their own ways. :)

I just saw phase 11 sheets for CV. They are offering electrical and structural options in order to move product.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 09, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 09, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 09, 2014, 06:22:50 PM
I just saw phase 11 sheets for CV. They are offering electrical and structural options in order to move product.

Phase 11 of which community?

And are you sure those aren't cancellations that already have preinstalled options?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 10, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
These are all the new homes in Mulberry.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 10, 2014, 04:06:10 PM
These are all the new homes in Mulberry.

No wonder the prices are so high.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,3934.msg213979.html#msg213979
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 11, 2014, 09:26:44 AM
especially because test doesn't understand the difference between nationality and race.

Do you understand the difference between what's personal property and what's not?  ROFLMAO
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 11, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 11, 2014, 11:14:02 AM
[q.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 12, 2014, 09:16:06 AM
Clearly proximity to freeway access is important to many people. 8)

Sure but I don't think you necessarily need to live on top of it to be in close proximity. To me, places like WB/SG are close enough. In fact, what's the difference if you live along trabuco in Woodbury versus living along trabuco in cypress village.  Isn't the location practically the same but WB is probably the superior village.

Well it might not seem so bad now, but with all the new homes they keep building and all the people that will be moving in. I foresee in the future, it will take longer to go down that small stretch on Sand Canyon.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 12, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
I can't bring myself to get excited about CV because of parking. With so many motorcourt tracts, I'm envisioning cars stacked up on streets (which aren't that wide, btw). That will make it seem transient -- and ripe for transformation to a rental village.

Am I alone / wrong in this concern?

Nope. Not alone. I share the same concern (and others) about cypress village. That's why we never considered it as a potential.  In fact, we only recently checked out mulberry after being on the house hunt for 6+ months.

I wonder if people trying to find parking over at the motorcourt homes start parking in Mulberry.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 12, 2014, 09:24:57 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: evensteven on January 14, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
It's tough to predict how congested the parking will be, due to many variables. Some households own 1 car, some have 3 cars. Street parking sports are also freed up by some people in the Marigold back units parking behind their garage, the Magnolia and Mulberry homes have driveways for their cars to park on instead of the street. And of course there's parking near Floral Park :)

I used to live in a community where parking was horrible (sometimes overnight guest had to park half a mile away and i'd pick them up). Based on how CV is laid out, I don't forsee the same parking problems but that's just based on my observation.

Try driving around other similar OC/Irvine Communities that have been built out after work to see how congested their street parking is after build out. I believe Stonegate, Portola Springs, and Woodburry should have some similar products to CV to give you a better idea.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 14, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
I can't bring myself to get excited about CV because of parking. With so many motorcourt tracts, I'm envisioning cars stacked up on streets (which aren't that wide, btw). That will make it seem transient -- and ripe for transformation to a rental village.

Am I alone / wrong in this concern?

Parking doesn't depend on court design but density and parking spaces provided.  Marigold and Magnolia are less dense than Mulberry and Marigold has more than the required number of parking spaces.  So whatever density you consider Mulberry the overall situation is better than that.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 17, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 17, 2014, 03:53:20 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 17, 2014, 04:33:07 PM
So we're through the preapproval process, on the priority list, etc... And got the call this week from Marigold sales office, they have our preferred floor plan and preferred location and ok price... But I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger.
CV has an extraordinarily high ratio of apartments to homes (with more on the way....) and there is a good chance the rental-ness will make for lower performing schools, that many of the homes will flip to rentals (based on parking hassles and density fatigue) and that will have a downward spiral effect on home value.

So, we're passing. I think.

I don't see how people who rent will lead to lower performing schools? Sounds like you are just stereotyping people who rent. Those apartments aren't exactly cheap either. If anything it brings more diversity to the area. Also, the apartments have plenty of parking that I don't see them parking in the other communities where it will be an issue.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: RCV on January 17, 2014, 04:47:52 PM
So we're through the preapproval process, on the priority list, etc... And got the call this week from Marigold sales office, they have our preferred floor plan and preferred location and ok price... But I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger.
CV has an extraordinarily high ratio of apartments to homes (with more on the way....) and there is a good chance the rental-ness will make for lower performing schools, that many of the homes will flip to rentals (based on parking hassles and density fatigue) and that will have a downward spiral effect on home value.

So, we're passing. I think.

I am curious when you got on the priority list and how quickly you got the call?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 17, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
So we're through the preapproval process, on the priority list, etc... And got the call this week from Marigold sales office, they have our preferred floor plan and preferred location and ok price... But I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger.
CV has an extraordinarily high ratio of apartments to homes (with more on the way....) and there is a good chance the rental-ness will make for lower performing schools, that many of the homes will flip to rentals (based on parking hassles and density fatigue) and that will have a downward spiral effect on home value.

So, we're passing. I think.

I too am concerned about all the new apartments they are adding.  More apartments means more people and more cars and more crowd.  I do wish they would build more single family homes instead of apartments to make it less dense.

I was just talking with Mr. Zerolot the other day as to why Irvine is suddenly adding so many apartments to that area recently.  It already has tons, why add more?  I don't get it.  Are there THAT many people that still need rentals? 

It is true that more apartments do bring down home values but I don't think it will effect the school performances much.  Those are NOT cheap apartments.  Unless they make it affordable housing type apartments.  Then that would make me very irritated.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on January 17, 2014, 06:34:14 PM
Once irvine company sells all it's land thats it. If they build apartments the cash flow is there for as long as the apartments are there. All of there cash flow generating real estate will always keep TIC alive, if all it did was sell its irvine land it would die off - that's my guess.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 17, 2014, 07:00:03 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 17, 2014, 07:03:38 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 17, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: i1 on January 17, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: RCV on January 17, 2014, 09:45:48 PM
So we're through the preapproval process, on the priority list, etc... And got the call this week from Marigold sales office, they have our preferred floor plan and preferred location and ok price... But I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger.
CV has an extraordinarily high ratio of apartments to homes (with more on the way....) and there is a good chance the rental-ness will make for lower performing schools, that many of the homes will flip to rentals (based on parking hassles and density fatigue) and that will have a downward spiral effect on home value.

So, we're passing. I think.

I don't see how people who rent will lead to lower performing schools? Sounds like you are just stereotyping people who rent. Those apartments aren't exactly cheap either. If anything it brings more diversity to the area. Also, the apartments have plenty of parking that I don't see them parking in the other communities where it will be an issue.

I don't know the socioeconomic makeup of the apartment dwellers. But as a potential homeowner, I don't like the idea of being surrounded by so many transient households. Kids tend to come and go mid school year, there's typically more noise at night, and it lends to an atmosphere that feels unsettled.

Kindof like being in the city but without the benefits...

We lived in the north end of Woodbury for a time and CV feels very much like that -- without the balance of the different sections Woodbury provides.

believe me, I want to like CV but I also don't want to regret my decision.

Are there villages that have no apartments communities in Irvine?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: i1 on January 17, 2014, 11:51:18 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on January 17, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
PP doesn't have apartments. ~700 homes, mostly sfr with driveway and some motorcourt detached homes.
But next to it will be higher density housing (apartments and maybe low income) and since there are no gates in PP... they will probably use the park.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on January 18, 2014, 03:57:03 AM
So we're through the preapproval process, on the priority list, etc... And got the call this week from Marigold sales office, they have our preferred floor plan and preferred location and ok price... But I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger.
CV has an extraordinarily high ratio of apartments to homes (with more on the way....) and there is a good chance the rental-ness will make for lower performing schools, that many of the homes will flip to rentals (based on parking hassles and density fatigue) and that will have a downward spiral effect on home value.

So, we're passing. I think.

I don't see how people who rent will lead to lower performing schools? Sounds like you are just stereotyping people who rent. Those apartments aren't exactly cheap either. If anything it brings more diversity to the area. Also, the apartments have plenty of parking that I don't see them parking in the other communities where it will be an issue.

I don't know the socioeconomic makeup of the apartment dwellers. But as a potential homeowner, I don't like the idea of being surrounded by so many transient households. Kids tend to come and go mid school year, there's typically more noise at night, and it lends to an atmosphere that feels unsettled.

Kindof like being in the city but without the benefits...

We lived in the north end of Woodbury for a time and CV feels very much like that -- without the balance of the different sections Woodbury provides.

believe me, I want to like CV but I also don't want to regret my decision.

Are there villages that have no apartments communities in Irvine?

PP doesn't have apartments. ~700 homes, mostly sfr with driveway and some motorcourt detached homes.

There's a lot of next-gen suites at PP. Maybe a few people decide to rent those out, but I think that'll be a pretty small minority.
SFR at PP - but you forgot to mention potential toxic soil and ground water.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 18, 2014, 06:31:55 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 18, 2014, 06:36:33 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 18, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: i1 on January 18, 2014, 07:28:10 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 18, 2014, 09:46:35 AM
No, but I can't think of a village with a higher apt:sfr ratio than CV. It's a bit extreme.

You don't know what you're talking about.  Take its neighbor Woodbury for a quick comparison.

Woodbury Court - 408
Woodbury Place - 357
Woodbury Square - 485
Woodbury Lane - 460
Woodbury Walk - 150
The Arbor - 90

1,950/4,271 = 46%


Umbria - 435
Murano - 628
Veneto - 352
Cadenza - 262

1,677/3,918 = 43%


And this doesn't even take into account the superior design of CV which I laid out in this post 

Woobury has an inferior design where the apartments and low income housing are dispersed throughout the community. Stonegate has them all on one side. Cypress Village also continues this superior design.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,3934.msg67254.html#msg67254


And this post

It's more than just a physical divide.  As I explained before, TIC has been improving village design with each new village.  At Woodbury, the apartments are interspersed throughout the community.  At Stonegate, they put them all on one side.  At Cypress Village, they're kicked out altogether.

Notice how this map shows the apartments:
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Stonegate/Village-Map

While this map does not:
http://www.villagesofirvine.com/Villages-and-Neighborhoods/Cypress-Village/Village-Map

The key difference is in the articles of incorporation.  I've read them for Cypress Village and the apartments are not part of the community.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,3934.msg71827.html#msg71827



Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on January 18, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on January 18, 2014, 11:26:29 AM
With home affordability going down with all the new regulation, most developers and investors (ie PE firms) are building more rentals to capture the increased market of people looking to rent. At the end of the day, I don't think apartments in the neighborhood are going to drastically impact pricing. Sure there will be some that won't want to buy but there will always be someone else in line. Everyone has their home preferences and that is fine.

It's a new normal and they will keep packing in as many homes as they possibly can. If you want a new home product, then you most likely will have to live near apartments. They might not be there right now, but they can always build a new one in the future. Anywhere you live in Irvine, east of the 405, these apartment people will impact you in some way. Whether it's at the stores you frequent or the roads you drive on.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 18, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
Test, thanks for posting (what I assume are) unit counts for Woodbury vs. CV.

A few points...

1) You haven't factored in the ~500 units of rental housing going in CV East, which brings the ratio to ~50%. That's huge.

2) CV's "highest end" is at the level of Woodbury's middle tier homes (topping out around $1M). I'd guess the median HHI between the two villages, at build out, will be a night and day difference.

1) I didn't include the ~500 units of rental housing in WB East either.

2) The 240 units of low income housing in WB destroys that number.  And comparing HHI between WB and CV is like comparing who's water gun squirts farther compared to artillery in Newport Coast and Newport Beach.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 18, 2014, 03:59:57 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 18, 2014, 07:43:28 PM
PP doesn't have apartments. ~700 homes, mostly sfr with driveway and some motorcourt detached homes.
But next to it will be higher density housing (apartments and maybe low income) and since there are no gates in PP... they will probably use the park.

Why?  Those higher density homes will have their own 2 parks with pools. See the enclave 6 portola spring thread.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,11223.msg217309.html#msg217309

Any park that doesn't have gates will attract outsiders.  Living in Woodbridge I've noticed the gated parks have less outside people.  Just visiting CV's park I've already met some people who don't live in CV hanging out and playing at the park.  Some of those people are from Irvine others are from Santa Ana and even met one from Long Beach.  The Long Beach one brought her 3 sons because they really liked the brand new playground.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 18, 2014, 08:17:29 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 18, 2014, 08:49:17 PM

Any park that doesn't have gates will attract outsiders.  Living in Woodbridge I've noticed the gated parks have less outside people.  Just visiting CV's park I've already met some people who don't live in CV hanging out and playing at the park.  Some of those people are from Irvine others are from Santa Ana and even met one from Long Beach.  The Long Beach one brought her 3 sons because they really liked the brand new playground.

Sure - of course non-residents will frequent other parks.  I'm on the neighborhood/pocket park circuit during the weekdays and meet my kid's  various playgroups at various parks throughout the northern part of Irvine.  But I've never been to a crowded park on the weekdays.  In fact, most of the parks I frequent are super underutilized.  Can't speak for the weekends though - don't do as much park-ing on those days.  If I'm not meeting friends at a local park, I much prefer going to the park(s) in our neighborhood - no need to drive and I can wheel the kid in his push toy.  So sure, there will be "visitors" at the park at PP (which isn't that impressive btw), but will it be a big deal - no.

P.S. CV's park attracts folks from Santa Ana and Long Beach?  That can't help property values right? ;)  Must be that convenient location off the fwy.

I would think outsiders would prefer big public parks like the Cypress Village Community Park.  I didn't think the small one between Marigold, Mulberry, and Magnolia would also attract so many as well.  It's funny because I kept asking them why they don't go to the CVCP with bigger slides ... most said that this smaller one stood out or they thought the big one is still in construction.

Anyhow there goes my property value =P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on January 18, 2014, 09:45:25 PM
P.S. CV's park attracts folks from Santa Ana and Long Beach?  That can't help property values right? ;)  Must be that convenient location off the fwy.

Parks here in Newport attract folks from Santa Ana and Long Beach.  Does wonders for property values.  :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on January 18, 2014, 09:50:07 PM
You pay the HOA so the outsiders could enjoy them. Nice!!!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 18, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
You pay the HOA so the outsiders could enjoy them. Nice!!!

It's our contribution to the world.  Hoa should be classified as a tax write off, much like charity.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on January 18, 2014, 10:18:04 PM
Think of it this way. Everyone wants to experience Irvine when owning is not possible. The outsiders are like  the women who left their nose prints on the Cartier showcase window at South Coast Plaza. Consider yourself among the chosen few living a life that billion of Mainlanders wanted.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 19, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
Think of it this way. Everyone wants to experience Irvine when owning is not possible. The outsiders are like  the women who left their nose prints on the Cartier showcase window at South Coast Plaza. Consider yourself among the chosen few living a life that billion of Mainlanders wanted.

Interesting you said that because there are plenty of Mainlanders in CV but I haven't met a single one of them at the CV park and we go pretty much every weekend.

Anyhow I have no problems with outsiders coming and hanging out at the new parks.  Anything new and clean will attract people to visit.  It doesn't have to be in Irvine.   The diversity helps too.   I just don't want to pay for HOA and end up with a damaged or tagged up park because the HOA opened it up to the public.  If it's just nose prints on the Cartier showcase window that's fine but if there's tagging or graffiti ...
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on January 19, 2014, 12:55:57 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on January 19, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
Mainlanders send their offsprings here to be raised by relatives or guardians that come once in a while to check on the high school age children and stock the Fridge full of foods.  The window of opportunities for corruption is now during this time when the government is modernizing the country. They must keep building these empty cities to sustain the greed of the government officials through development fees and bribery gifts. You don't see them because they are not here!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on January 19, 2014, 01:13:06 PM
Watch out for one Asian dude on a bike. He steals your cans while you are not watching!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on January 19, 2014, 01:49:43 PM
Good Luck when the Mainlanders decide to live in their investments. They spits, leave cigarettes, pee in the bushes and leave trash all over the place. I saw a mainlander women squatted on the bus bench and peed in Rowland Heights. The bench was the thick metal wire grid where her pee drained right through without wetting her feet.

There are thousands of videos on Youtube "Chinese poop or pee in subway"
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on January 19, 2014, 03:22:49 PM
Good Luck when the Mainlanders decide to live in their investments. They spits, leave cigarettes, pee in the bushes and leave trash all over the place. I saw a mainlander women squatted on the bus bench and peed in Rowland Heights. The bench was the thick metal wire grid where her pee drained right through without wetting her feet.

There are thousands of videos on Youtube "Chinese poop or pee in subway"

It's true Mainlanders have some nasty habits ... it's how they grew up. When I visited China and had to go to the bathroom I saw a hospital and assumed it would be the cleanest place.  I was so wrong!!!  Thank goodness a family friend found me and directed me to a McDonalds.  He said only western places have clean bathrooms.  No wonder they all want to get out of China.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 05, 2014, 11:54:07 PM
Irvine Pacific® Announces New Neighborhoods Jasmine And Laurel Coming To Cypress Village

http://www.irvinecompany.com/irvine-pacific%C2%AE-announces-new-neighborhoods-jasmine-and-laurel-coming-to-cypress-village
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 19, 2014, 03:57:08 PM

Looks like Jasmine, Jade Court, Acacia are all getting extensions.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3r5HR2lrzc/UwVD-2RqSxI/AAAAAAAAALQ/gls0kYtMgyM/w1518-h884-no/productsummary.jpg)


Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 19, 2014, 06:40:35 PM
Jasmine has not even been released yet and IP already plans to build more at extension site, maybe IP knows something we don't.

I also notice the two affordable housing tracts, one close to Jeffrey and one on other side of Sand Canyon, does anyone know anything about them?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on February 20, 2014, 08:36:44 AM
I still can't get over the fact that the 5 freeway is right next CV.  I know that it's convenient and some of the developments are pretty far away but man...resale could be brutal.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 20, 2014, 08:40:35 AM
I still can't get over the fact that the 5 freeway is right next CV.  I know that it's convenient and some of the developments are pretty far away but man...resale could be brutal.

The 5 must be different than the 405.  Resales at Quail Hill and Laguna Altura are brutal too, and they're even closer.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on February 20, 2014, 08:58:16 AM
I still can't get over the fact that the 5 freeway is right next CV.  I know that it's convenient and some of the developments are pretty far away but man...resale could be brutal.

The 5 must be different than the 405.  Resales at Quail Hill and Laguna Altura are brutal too, and they're even closer.

It's that "coastal proximity". :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on February 20, 2014, 09:13:56 AM
I still can't get over the fact that the 5 freeway is right next CV.  I know that it's convenient and some of the developments are pretty far away but man...resale could be brutal.

The 5 must be different than the 405.  Resales at Quail Hill and Laguna Altura are brutal too, and they're even closer.

I'm sorry but QH/LA >>> CV. Don't dare to compare Irvine's premier "Coastal Canyon Community" with the flatlands of Northern Irvine.  ;D
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on February 20, 2014, 09:17:35 AM
I still can't get over the fact that the 5 freeway is right next CV.  I know that it's convenient and some of the developments are pretty far away but man...resale could be brutal.

The 5 must be different than the 405.  Resales at Quail Hill and Laguna Altura are brutal too, and they're even closer.

I'm sorry but QH/LA >>> CV. Don't dare to compare Irvine's premier "Coastal Canyon Community" with the flatlands of Northern Irvine.  ;D

I would also say that both LA and QH are elevated. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 20, 2014, 04:54:03 PM
I would also say that both LA and QH are elevated. 

Elevation just makes the noise and pollution worse.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 20, 2014, 06:21:31 PM
test, you are rooting very hard for CV and in a matter of fact, more than any CV residents I know of.

Did you move in to the CV or purchase a home here?  If you did, well, welcome to the CV!!   

That probably explains it why you have picture of ZeorLot's home.....

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 20, 2014, 08:30:24 PM
test, you are rooting very hard for CV and in a matter of fact, more than any CV residents I know of.

Did you move in to the CV or purchase a home here?  If you did, well, welcome to the CV!!   

That probably explains it why you have picture of ZeorLot's home.....

Hey hey ... I'm not the only one with a house at CV.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 20, 2014, 11:06:59 PM

Looks like Jasmine, Jade Court, Acacia are all getting extensions.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3r5HR2lrzc/UwVD-2RqSxI/AAAAAAAAALQ/gls0kYtMgyM/w1518-h884-no/productsummary.jpg)

That totally sucks!  Wasn't the original plan for private PARKS for those extension areas?  If all the parks are public parks then what am I paying all that HOA for? 

Even the apartment dwellers have their own private areas.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 21, 2014, 03:06:29 PM

Looks like Jasmine, Jade Court, Acacia are all getting extensions.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3r5HR2lrzc/UwVD-2RqSxI/AAAAAAAAALQ/gls0kYtMgyM/w1518-h884-no/productsummary.jpg)

That totally sucks!  Wasn't the original plan for private PARKS for those extension areas?  If all the parks are public parks then what am I paying all that HOA for? 

Even the apartment dwellers have their own private areas.

???

It says private park D next to Marigold extension.  Private park E next to Acacia extension.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 21, 2014, 10:24:08 PM

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It says private park D next to Marigold extension.  Private park E next to Acacia extension.

When I originally saw private parks in an older master plan you posted months ago ... I was expecting a Woodbridge style and size private parks.  Literally gated parks.

According to the map Arbor Park is labeled as a private park but it's really not.  The only part that is private about it is the swimming pool part. 

I don't consider swimming pools a "park".

The lack of true private parks will just force residents to stay within their own homes. People need space to mingle and talk ... Greenery makes people happy ... Swimming pools are nice too but that's a seasonal hangout place.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 21, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
I see density being a huge factor in CV now.  Not enough open space for parks and recreations in the designs and very little yard space in all the various developments. Plus flanked by large apartment complexes on the Jeffrey and Sand Canyon end ... Each one with their own affordable housing sectors.

Now I know why so many people are renting out their Mulberry homes ...  :'(
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on February 21, 2014, 10:57:48 PM
I see density being a huge factor in CV now.  Not enough open space for parks and recreations in the designs and very little yard space in all the various developments. Plus flanked by large apartment complexes on the Jeffrey and Sand Canyon end ... Each one with their own affordable housing sectors.

Now I know why so many people are renting out their Mulberry homes ...  :'(

I will be enjoying the inside of my home that I won't be going out :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on February 21, 2014, 11:08:45 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on February 22, 2014, 07:10:24 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 22, 2014, 07:35:56 AM

The lack of true private parks will just force residents to stay within their own homes. People need space to mingle and talk ... Greenery makes people happy ... Swimming pools are nice too but that's a seasonal hangout place.

Most of the "private" parks around here are just private in name only.  Very few require key fob access.  I don't think the lack of a true private park will force residents to stay within their homes.  If people have young kids, they will go to the park regardless of if it's gated or not.  I think for CV, there seems to be enough parks.  A lot of the higher density stuff over by the freeway will probably have young couples and singles living there so no kids.

Actually that's not entirely true.  I was expecting a lot of singles and young couples over there by those condos near the freeway. However I scout out my future neighbors a lot and noticed a lot of one child couples buying those tracts.  The convenience of the schools are a big draw and not everyone can afford above the $500k+ market. 

Meanwhile I've met a LOT of singles and young couples in my neck of the woods of Marigold.  I'm actually looking for families with small kids for mine to hang out with and so far I've only met one family.  I expected more but none yet. I tell the young couples to all get busy!!!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on February 22, 2014, 07:57:24 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 22, 2014, 08:00:22 AM

The lack of true private parks will just force residents to stay within their own homes. People need space to mingle and talk ... Greenery makes people happy ... Swimming pools are nice too but that's a seasonal hangout place.

Most of the "private" parks around here are just private in name only.  Very few require key fob access.  I don't think the lack of a true private park will force residents to stay within their homes.  If people have young kids, they will go to the park regardless of if it's gated or not.  I think for CV, there seems to be enough parks.  A lot of the higher density stuff over by the freeway will probably have young couples and singles living there so no kids.

Actually that's not entirely true.  I was expecting a lot of singles and young couples over there by those condos near the freeway. However I scout out my future neighbors a lot and noticed a lot of one child couples buying those tracts.  The convenience of the schools are a big draw and not everyone can afford above the $500k+ market. 

Meanwhile I've met a LOT of singles and young couples in my neck of the woods of Marigold.  I'm actually looking for families with small kids for mine to hang out with and so far I've only met one family.  I expected more but none yet. I tell the young couples to all get busy!!!

Actually CV is kind of First-time-buyervalle.  Magnolia and Mulberry have more of move up buyers.  However, even at Mulberry, most of neighbor I meet so far are relative young (compare to me. :()  and with very young children's. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 22, 2014, 08:11:16 AM
I see density being a huge factor in CV now.  Not enough open space for parks and recreations in the designs and very little yard space in all the various developments. Plus flanked by large apartment complexes on the Jeffrey and Sand Canyon end ... Each one with their own affordable housing sectors.

Now I know why so many people are renting out their Mulberry homes ...  :'(

I will be enjoying the inside of my home that I won't be going out :P

Before you start your denning, please let me visit your place first, k?  I'd like to see your upgrades to get some ideas.

Also we happen to live next to the BIGGEST parks in CV... Not that the parks are really that big in person ... Can't imagine how small the other ones will be.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 22, 2014, 08:13:00 AM
Ahhh DINKS. I guess that makes sense. Kids are $$.

Kids are $$$$$.  At least mine are.   :P

I'd be in Mulberry or Magnolia if I didn't have kids.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 22, 2014, 08:16:50 AM

The lack of true private parks will just force residents to stay within their own homes. People need space to mingle and talk ... Greenery makes people happy ... Swimming pools are nice too but that's a seasonal hangout place.

Most of the "private" parks around here are just private in name only.  Very few require key fob access.  I don't think the lack of a true private park will force residents to stay within their homes.  If people have young kids, they will go to the park regardless of if it's gated or not.  I think for CV, there seems to be enough parks.  A lot of the higher density stuff over by the freeway will probably have young couples and singles living there so no kids.

Actually that's not entirely true.  I was expecting a lot of singles and young couples over there by those condos near the freeway. However I scout out my future neighbors a lot and noticed a lot of one child couples buying those tracts.  The convenience of the schools are a big draw and not everyone can afford above the $500k+ market. 

Meanwhile I've met a LOT of singles and young couples in my neck of the woods of Marigold.  I'm actually looking for families with small kids for mine to hang out with and so far I've only met one family.  I expected more but none yet. I tell the young couples to all get busy!!!

Actually CV is kind of First-time-buyervalle.  Magnolia and Mulberry have more of move up buyers.  However, even at Mulberry, most of neighbor I meet so far are relative young (compare to me. :()  and with very young children's.

I agree.  I noticed at the closing dinner that many of the couples with kids (plural) are living in Magnolia.  Considering magnolia has the largest floor plans ... It makes sense.  Some have really spacious backyards too.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on February 22, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
I see density being a huge factor in CV now.  Not enough open space for parks and recreations in the designs and very little yard space in all the various developments. Plus flanked by large apartment complexes on the Jeffrey and Sand Canyon end ... Each one with their own affordable housing sectors.

Now I know why so many people are renting out their Mulberry homes ...  :'(

I will be enjoying the inside of my home that I won't be going out :P

Before you start your denning, please let me visit your place first, k?  I'd like to see your upgrades to get some ideas.

Also we happen to live next to the BIGGEST parks in CV... Not that the parks are really that big in person ... Can't imagine how small the other ones will be.

Of course. It won't be very furnished but I'll figure something out. I am pretty happy with all the upgrades I chose. At the time of choosing it was difficult to to justify the higher cost of the upgrades but it is one less thing to worry about and they have all turned out pretty well. At least on the surface! ;)

I like the fact that CV has access to many recreational facilities. It remains to be built but there will be softball, soccer, basketball, volleyball fields/courts. Swimming pools and bike trails. I like the idea that it will all be very close walking distance.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 22, 2014, 09:44:32 AM

The lack of true private parks will just force residents to stay within their own homes. People need space to mingle and talk ... Greenery makes people happy ... Swimming pools are nice too but that's a seasonal hangout place.

Most of the "private" parks around here are just private in name only.  Very few require key fob access.  I don't think the lack of a true private park will force residents to stay within their homes.  If people have young kids, they will go to the park regardless of if it's gated or not.  I think for CV, there seems to be enough parks.  A lot of the higher density stuff over by the freeway will probably have young couples and singles living there so no kids. 

Private simply means it's maintained by the HOA.  Public means it's maintained by the City.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 22, 2014, 11:25:43 AM
@test - so that means the giant public park next to the elementary school is maintained by the city?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on February 22, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 22, 2014, 08:31:40 PM
Ahhh DINKS. I guess that makes sense. Kids are $$.

Kids are $$$$$.  At least mine are.   :P

I'd be in Mulberry or Magnolia Amelia or Trevi if I didn't have kids.

Fixed that for you. :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 23, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
@test - so that means the giant public park next to the elementary school is maintained by the city?

Yes.  List here:

http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/cityhall/cs/commparks/cparks/default.asp

Thanks Bones for the list. But I don't think "public park a" is on the list yet.  I wonder if it will considering its so small compared to the Cypress Village community park.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 23, 2014, 09:27:11 PM
Ahhh DINKS. I guess that makes sense. Kids are $$.

Kids are $$$$$.  At least mine are.   :P

I'd be in Mulberry or Magnolia Amelia or Trevi if I didn't have kids.

Fixed that for you. :)

Haha I wish. What am I going to do with 7 rooms??!!!  I'll be running a bed and breakfast with a Trevi home.  =P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on February 23, 2014, 09:36:58 PM

Of course. It won't be very furnished but I'll figure something out. I am pretty happy with all the upgrades I chose. At the time of choosing it was difficult to to justify the higher cost of the upgrades but it is one less thing to worry about and they have all turned out pretty well. At least on the surface! ;)

I like the fact that CV has access to many recreational facilities. It remains to be built but there will be softball, soccer, basketball, volleyball fields/courts. Swimming pools and bike trails. I like the idea that it will all be very close walking distance.

Irvine is really good at building recreational facilities. They like to make everything walking and biking friendly. However I've lived in Woodbridge for a decade and it's hard to use the basketball courts and soccer fields just because others are already using it.  That's with most residents not even using it. Most are good about sharing the courts. 

But the swimming pool in the summer is just unusable because soooo many people are packed into such a small pool.  The stink eye from certain folks are just crazy cause they see too many aZn in the pool.  Not to mention the openly racist comments they make while sitting in the spa.

Anyhow that's Woodbridge.  I can only hope that CV will be different.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on March 02, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
Any tips and things to look out for or ask about during the final home inspection walk through? I have taken down some notes from ZeroLot's comments on another post but wanted to see if anyone else had anything to add.Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on March 02, 2014, 06:59:12 PM
Open and close every cabinet door. I bet there will be some that bind. Open and close every window. Turn on every light.   Open every drawer and pull it all the way out.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ps9 on March 02, 2014, 07:18:15 PM
Since your at it, run all the  water stuff too, flush all the toilets when you arrive, when you leave check the toilet tanks and the area around it, watch for any drips or leaks, feel the front bottom edge of the toilet tank right where the lever is, if it overfills,water will dribble from there.  Check the hose that connects to the tank.  In the kitchen, check the sink, fill it up with water, run the garbage disposal.  Make sure no leaks under the sink.  Run dishwasher, make sure it get hot water.  Check the drains in showers and tubs.  Make sure the water drains fast.  Slow leaks are hard to detect in a walkthru, but you have a year to stare at your ceilings :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on March 02, 2014, 07:23:03 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Chairman on March 02, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
How about an area on the wall where the base board bows out a little bit? I know that behind the dry wall there is a pipe that was not installed as flush with the wall. I made a note in my punch list but I think they ignored it since there it bows out a little bit. I will bring it up during the walk through, but I'm not sure if that is something that will be addressed. It's worth a shot I suppose.

Another one that lnc showed me was making sure the garage door bottom is flush with the driveway floor. You don't want any gaps because rodents could squeeze into your house.

Thanks for the tips everyone!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on March 02, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
Just one more thing to add.  When you have a chance, turn all the faucets full on and let the water run continuously for at least 20 to 30 min, then inspect the entire house for any leakage.

Just last week, there's a big commercial truck with the sign Water Damage and Restoration park in front one of the new home that just closed 3 month ago with several IP's customer service guys running in and out.  Don't know what happen but this must be quite the bummer. :(
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on March 02, 2014, 08:11:29 PM
Another one that lnc showed me was making sure the garage door bottom is flush with the driveway floor. You don't want any gaps because rodents could squeeze into your house.

Thanks for the tips everyone!

Actually not rodents but a lot of crickets will move in into your new home.  I haven't heard any rodent problem in CV but we have tons of rabbit/hare here. But once our FCB neighbors move in, for some reason they all disappeared. :(
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes- Jade Court
Post by: CKP on April 16, 2014, 11:40:56 AM
anyone know the pricing for phase 7 release?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 24, 2014, 02:59:04 PM
Drove around here today, passed by Laurel but didn't look at the models.

They should have just called it Woodbury South.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on May 25, 2014, 02:57:23 PM
Drove around here today, passed by Laurel but didn't look at the models.

They should have just called it Woodbury South.

It's bad feng shui to call it South.  Woodbury West ... now that has a ring to it.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 25, 2014, 04:28:06 PM
Woodbury Village? Woodbury Pointe? Woodbury Square?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 27, 2014, 09:27:00 AM

But the swimming pool in the summer is just unusable because soooo many people are packed into such a small pool.  The stink eye from certain folks are just crazy cause they see too many aZn in the pool.  Not to mention the openly racist comments they make while sitting in the spa.

Anyhow that's Woodbridge.  I can only hope that CV will be different.

Are you saying residents in Woodbridge are opening racist and actually make racist comments?  What do these people say?  Have you confronted these racists and told them off? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on May 27, 2014, 01:33:24 PM

But the swimming pool in the summer is just unusable because soooo many people are packed into such a small pool.  The stink eye from certain folks are just crazy cause they see too many aZn in the pool.  Not to mention the openly racist comments they make while sitting in the spa.

Anyhow that's Woodbridge.  I can only hope that CV will be different.

Are you saying residents in Woodbridge are opening racist and actually make racist comments?  What do these people say?  Have you confronted these racists and told them off?

Am I going to confront a bunch of half drunk men in the middle of the night for racist comments?  Nope. 

But if I knew where those people lived would I write a petition to the association describing their inappropriate behavior?  Yup.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 27, 2014, 02:25:19 PM

But the swimming pool in the summer is just unusable because soooo many people are packed into such a small pool.  The stink eye from certain folks are just crazy cause they see too many aZn in the pool.  Not to mention the openly racist comments they make while sitting in the spa.

Anyhow that's Woodbridge.  I can only hope that CV will be different.

Are you saying residents in Woodbridge are opening racist and actually make racist comments?  What do these people say?  Have you confronted these racists and told them off?

Am I going to confront a bunch of half drunk men in the middle of the night for racist comments?  Nope. 

But if I knew where those people lived would I write a petition to the association describing their inappropriate behavior?  Yup.

Didn't know it was in the middle of the night with drunk men.  I would call the police immediately if this was the situation.  This is a hate crime that should be promptly reported and filed.  This is so sad and pitiful that this kind of stuff still happens so openly and brazenly, especially in Irvine. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 27, 2014, 02:41:58 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 27, 2014, 02:47:22 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 27, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians.

I don't know about that...non-Whites are can be pretty vocal about their racism....they just say it in their own language and in environment where they don't think others will understand or hear them. 

Asians are pretty racist...especially against Blacks.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 27, 2014, 02:57:25 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians.

I don't know about that...non-Whites are can be pretty vocal about their racism....they just say it in their own language and in environment where they don't think others will understand or hear them. 

Asians are pretty racist...especially against Blacks.

i think everyone is racist against blacks.  back home where i grew up it was predominately mexican and most people didnt like them. felt bad for the few black kids there.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 27, 2014, 03:01:02 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians.

I don't know about that...non-Whites are can be pretty vocal about their racism....they just say it in their own language and in environment where they don't think others will understand or hear them. 

Asians are pretty racist...especially against Blacks.

I would agree with you that recent immigrants from Asia that are very new to the United States (can't speak the language/educated in their homeland) are more racist towards others.  But Asians/minorities that have lived here and speak the English language (educated here) are not for the most part racist.  They actually, like myself, prefer diversity and are inclusive.  If you compare apples to apples (e.g. minorities that have lived and were educated here vs. whites of the same), you will find more whites have racial intolerance (you have heard of "white flight", right?). 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 27, 2014, 03:11:50 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians.

I don't know about that...non-Whites are can be pretty vocal about their racism....they just say it in their own language and in environment where they don't think others will understand or hear them. 

Asians are pretty racist...especially against Blacks.

I would agree with you that recent immigrants from Asia that are very new to the United States (can't speak the language/educated in their homeland) are more racist towards others.  But Asians/minorities that have lived here and speak the English language (educated here) are not for the most part racist.  They actually, like myself, prefer diversity and are inclusive.  If you compare apples to apples (e.g. minorities that have lived and were educated here vs. whites of the same), you will find more whites have racial intolerance (you have heard of "white flight", right?).

I think you're describing a generational thing.  Younger generation regardless of race are much more tolerant and accepting of other races.  Older generations are not. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on May 28, 2014, 05:05:18 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians.

I guess I wasn't the only one that complained back in WB.  The association stepped in and sent notice to the party house that likes to "ching chong ling long" aZns as they were walking by and the tenants were eventually booted.

As for the swimming pool & jacuzzi, it was shut down for over 6 months because of drunk people hanging out at night.  Now it's only opened during summer months and I see a WB truck drive by to make sure everyone is respecting the closing hours of the pool.

So writing to the association helps.  Now if I can just get Cypress Village to replace the dying trees in front of my yard since no one is watering them.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 28, 2014, 05:09:52 PM
@AA - what makes you say especially in irvine?  There's racist folks everywhere and from what I understand plenty of racist Chinese folks here in irvine too.

Was at lunch today and a coworker was mentioning how his friends who are white were complaining about all the Persians in south county.

@qwerty - I'm sure there are racists of every color, but usually "non-white" racists don't openly and brazenly just spew out racist comments as it was described by ZeroLot.  Typically, whites are much more open and vocal about their racism/bigotry and are not afraid to let you know that you are not wanted here.  Just like your co-workers' comments about Persians.

I guess I wasn't the only one that complained back in WB.  The association stepped in and sent notice to the party house that likes to "ching chong ling long" aZns as they were walking by and the tenants were eventually booted.

As for the swimming pool & jacuzzi, it was shut down for over 6 months because of drunk people hanging out at night.  Now it's only opened during summer months and I see a WB truck drive by to make sure everyone is respecting the closing hours of the pool.

So writing to the association helps.  Now if I can just get Cypress Village to replace the dying trees in front of my yard since no one is watering them.

I would have also called the police to report this as a hate crime.  These idiots need to understand and be warned that racism and bigotry will not be tolerated. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: freedomcm on May 29, 2014, 06:41:34 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on May 29, 2014, 07:02:13 AM
:P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: jmoney74 on May 29, 2014, 07:27:56 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine

Yes it is a crime.. if it is said on TI.. it is LAW!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 08:48:26 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine

Would your opinion change if the miscreants were shouting the N-word at African Americans every time they walked by?

The behavior is bully, belittling and threatening on its face - no one should be subjected to that, especially in their own community. You need to man up and not tolerate such behavior.

It's deplorable action and you should stand up to it.  But it's not a crime.  It's covered by the 1st Amendment.  That is the reason why KKK and neo-Nazis can stage protests and parades.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 29, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine

The crime?  It's called threatening people, intimidation and inciting physical and verbal abuse and violence.  It is a hate crime. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 09:23:39 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine

The crime?  It's called threatening people, intimidation and inciting physical and verbal abuse and violence.  It is a hate crime.

It's not.  Yellling at and intimidating people is not a crime.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 29, 2014, 09:27:57 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine

The crime?  It's called threatening people, intimidation and inciting physical and verbal abuse and violence.  It is a hate crime.

It's not.  Yellling at and intimidating people is not a crime.

It absolutely is a crime.  If someone is yelling racists slurs at you to intimidate and threaten you and you feel fearful of that racist, it is absolutely a crime, more specifically a hate crime.  The police should be called immediately and that racist is required to be arrested and charged with a hate crime.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 09:33:27 AM
The police?  Really?  what was the crime?  was there some incitement to violence that was left unsaid?

Otherwise, you just need to man/woman up and realize that the world can be unpleasant sometimes, even in Irvine

The crime?  It's called threatening people, intimidation and inciting physical and verbal abuse and violence.  It is a hate crime.

It's not.  Yellling at and intimidating people is not a crime.

It absolutely is a crime.  If someone is yelling racists slurs at you to intimidate and threaten you and you feel fearful of that racist, it is absolutely a crime, more specifically a hate crime.  The police should be called immediately and that racist is required to be arrested and charged with a hate crime.

No...it is not.  People are allowed to yell at you and call you names.   It's not a crime.  It's called the First Amendment. 

They can't physically attack you but it is not a crime.  Also, "hate crime" is not a crime within itself.  It simply an enhancement charge.  Which means that it adds on to an existing crime.  Since yelling at you is not a crime, the fact that they use racist terms does not make the yelling a crime.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 29, 2014, 09:44:26 AM
Yes, they can yell that I'm fat, they can yell that I'm ugly....but they cannot yell racists slurs at me and call me the "N" word to intimidate and/or threaten me or my family.  If I am fearful and feel threaten then this is a reportable hate crime.   The 1st Amendment protects free speech NOT speech that threatens, intimidates and incites verbal/physical violence and harm. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 09:52:17 AM
Yes, they can yell that I'm fat, they can yell that I'm ugly....but they cannot yell racists slurs at me and call me the "N" word to intimidate and/or threaten me or my family.  If I am fearful and feel threaten then this is a reportable hate crime.   The 1st Amendment protects free speech NOT speech that threatens, intimidates and incites verbal/physical violence and harm.

Believe what you want.  Every Supreme Court case on the issue has found that speech is not actionable under a hate crime statute.  First Amendment even protects actions like burning of crosses. 

Yelling "I am going to kick your butt" is not a crime...yelling "I am going to kick your butt" plus racial slur still does not make it a crime.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 29, 2014, 11:18:08 AM
Yes, they can yell that I'm fat, they can yell that I'm ugly....but they cannot yell racists slurs at me and call me the "N" word to intimidate and/or threaten me or my family.  If I am fearful and feel threaten then this is a reportable hate crime.   The 1st Amendment protects free speech NOT speech that threatens, intimidates and incites verbal/physical violence and harm.

Believe what you want.  Every Supreme Court case on the issue has found that speech is not actionable under a hate crime statute.  First Amendment even protects actions like burning of crosses. 

Yelling "I am going to kick your butt" is not a crime...yelling "I am going to kick your butt" plus racial slur still does not make it a crime.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  If someone says to me "I am going to kill you "N" word"....that is a hate crime. Period.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 11:34:40 AM
Yes, they can yell that I'm fat, they can yell that I'm ugly....but they cannot yell racists slurs at me and call me the "N" word to intimidate and/or threaten me or my family.  If I am fearful and feel threaten then this is a reportable hate crime.   The 1st Amendment protects free speech NOT speech that threatens, intimidates and incites verbal/physical violence and harm.

Believe what you want.  Every Supreme Court case on the issue has found that speech is not actionable under a hate crime statute.  First Amendment even protects actions like burning of crosses. 

Yelling "I am going to kick your butt" is not a crime...yelling "I am going to kick your butt" plus racial slur still does not make it a crime.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  If someone says to me "I am going to kill you "N" word"....that is a hate crime. Period.

It's a legal fact...you disagreeing with it doesn't change the fact that it is not a crime.  Good luck convincing the police and the DA.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 29, 2014, 01:42:04 PM
In a civilized, educated and post barbarian world, we as a society not only have to follow the letter of the law but also the "spirit" of the law.  Please don't hide behind "technicalities"  as this is cowardly.  We as a society need to stand up against what is wrong and unjust no matter whether the "technical" definitions of the law allow it or not.  Enough Said!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 02:08:45 PM
Actually, in a "civilized, educated and post barbarian world", we respect the rule of law even if we don't care for it or what result may come out of it because it's the law. 

It's ironic that you want to follow the "spirit" of the law as to "hate crimes" but not as to the First Amendment of the Constitution.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AA on May 29, 2014, 02:34:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong...but wasn't the first amendment enacted when society had rampant racism/bigotry and slavery?  I'm not saying the first amendment is bad in anyway, but as society evolves so must the laws. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on May 29, 2014, 02:38:58 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong...but wasn't the first amendment enacted when society had rampant racism/bigotry and slavery?  I'm not saying the first amendment is bad in anyway, but as society evolves so must the laws.

I am not following you at all.  The concept of the First Amendment is that people are free to say unpopular and even hateful things because we cherish free speech as a society/country.  The government should not be allowed to determine what is or is not popular or hateful speech because it can lead to very bad things.

Again...if you want to follow the "spirit" of laws, then you should have no problems with this.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Pippi on May 29, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
Weird my neighbors across from me are black.  When I'm washing my car, I see him saying "wats up ni66a" to every black dude that walks by than they do that hand shake thing.  My neighbor calls me his "ni66a" too.  I know this is in a different context but just saying.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on May 29, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 29, 2014, 04:35:14 PM
Weird my neighbors across from me are black.  When I'm washing my car, I see him saying "wats up ni66a" to every black dude that walks by than they do that hand shake thing.  My neighbor calls me his "ni66a" too.  I know this is in a different context but just saying.

And then black people wonder why they are stereotyped.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: qwerty on May 29, 2014, 04:36:08 PM
I'm going to call everyone one homes
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ??? on June 03, 2014, 04:06:11 PM
Jasmine Plan 2 raised to Mid 700s (First Phase Pricing Must Have Been A Mistake)
Magnolia Plan 2 raised to Mid 900s (Only 100 sf larger than its counterpart, Plan 1)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on July 04, 2014, 08:26:18 AM
Cypress Village Residents Will Enjoy Two Walking-Close Schools This Fall

“Cypress Village is the only neighborhood in Irvine with two walking close schools,” said Tom Veal, Vice President of Residential Sales and Marketing for Irvine Community Development Company

http://www.schoolbuyersonline.com/doc/cypress-village-residents-enjoy-two-walking-close-schools-fall-0001
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on July 04, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on July 04, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Cypress Village Residents Will Enjoy Two Walking-Close Schools This Fall

Cypress Village is the only neighborhood in Irvine with two walking close schools,” said Tom Veal, Vice President of Residential Sales and Marketing for Irvine Community Development Company

http://www.schoolbuyersonline.com/doc/cypress-village-residents-enjoy-two-walking-close-schools-fall-0001

I think he meant new developments.

Off the top of my head, Woodbridge, Greentree, College Park, Northpark, Northwood, Turtle Rock and most of Woodbury are walkable to two schools. And a few of those are walkable to three schools, depending on where you are in the neighborhood.

The entire CV neighborhood is walking close.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on July 05, 2014, 09:07:46 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on July 31, 2014, 07:19:54 AM
I think he meant to say middle school

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ZeroLot on August 03, 2014, 10:24:22 PM
I think he meant to say middle school


Nice aerial but it's the middle school.  Nice music too. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on August 04, 2014, 11:05:58 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on August 04, 2014, 11:14:01 AM
I think he meant to say middle school

Every neighborhood I listed is walking close to elementary + middle or middle + high; some of them elementary+middle+high. Greentree, for example -- you can easily walk to all three.

And it's a bit of a canard to say CV is the only community walking close to two schools; OH is walking close to one school, but that one school covers K-8.

CV is a special snowflake -- just like all the other special snowflakes.

OH Elementary is not walkable...unless your kids enjoy a vigorous hike to go home.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on August 04, 2014, 11:29:57 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Irvinecommuter on August 04, 2014, 11:51:13 AM
I think he meant to say middle school

Every neighborhood I listed is walking close to elementary + middle or middle + high; some of them elementary+middle+high. Greentree, for example -- you can easily walk to all three.

And it's a bit of a canard to say CV is the only community walking close to two schools; OH is walking close to one school, but that one school covers K-8.

CV is a special snowflake -- just like all the other special snowflakes.

OH Elementary is not walkable...unless your kids enjoy a vigorous hike to go home.

Srsly? #nationofwimps

It's not just distance (although that can be very far depending on where you live in OH) ...it's also terrain.  There is very few places that is "walkable" in OH.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: 0$ on August 04, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 05, 2015, 10:05:49 AM

Looks like Jasmine, Jade Court, Acacia are all getting extensions.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3r5HR2lrzc/UwVD-2RqSxI/AAAAAAAAALQ/gls0kYtMgyM/w1518-h884-no/productsummary.jpg)




Acacia got swapped out for Caserta.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2vnnyuu.jpg)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/3482adl.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: The California Court Company on February 05, 2015, 10:31:10 AM
aren't Jasmine, Jade Court, Acacia  all high density projects? how many homes are going to be in Cypress Village total? including the apartment row, they really need to change the name to Compress Village.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 05, 2015, 01:26:17 PM
aren't Jasmine, Jade Court, Acacia  all high density projects? how many homes are going to be in Cypress Village total? including the apartment row, they really need to change the name to Compress Village.

Or California Court Village. :)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 05, 2015, 01:35:27 PM
Acacia got swapped out for Caserta.

I guess Acacia are not selling that well. 

I just happen to visit Caserta over the weekend and I was told that they only have 2 more phase left and the sale office did not know about the extension. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on February 05, 2015, 03:18:05 PM
all high density projects?

Higher density = higher land value.  Basic land value 101.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,11781.msg231867.html#msg231867

This is what you want if you're an investor.  This is not what you want if you're a redneck dreaming of the countryside.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Sunnyirvine on February 06, 2015, 02:25:16 PM
Sometimes, it's buyer's remorse.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: firsttimehomebuyer on February 08, 2015, 06:52:35 PM
Where is jade court extension ?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on February 08, 2015, 08:35:08 PM
Where is jade court extension ?

From the map posted by test several thread above, it is located on the south-east corner of Cypress Village.  Border by Tulip, Nightmist, Sand Canyon and I-5.

If you live there, you'll beat everyone else to the I-5. :) 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: thelandofnoland on February 08, 2015, 08:56:34 PM
Please contact me at http://thenewhomeblog.wix.com/the-new-home-blog for more information on the original post. Thank you.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: thelandofnoland on February 08, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Please contact me at http://thenewhomeblog.wix.com/the-new-home-blog for more information on the original post. Thank you.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on February 08, 2015, 09:41:37 PM
all high density projects?

Higher density = higher land value.  Basic land value 101.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,11781.msg231867.html#msg231867

This is what you want if you're an investor.  This is not what you want if you're a redneck dreaming of the countryside.

Sorry Test... http://www.newhomesinirvine.com/2014/07/orchard-hills-awesome-location-however.html

You posted a link from a website looking for real estate investors. Am I right?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: sweetsam on February 09, 2015, 01:07:48 PM
Is there going to be a jadecourt extension for sure?? we were there for last phase and many of them were waiting for Residence 4 but I believe they have only one phase left out which has 3 more "residece 4"
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: bones on February 16, 2015, 01:41:37 PM
"Irvine Community Development Company applications are under review for a combination of 924 apartments, detached condominiums, and affordable housing units in Planning Area 40 East-East located at the corner of Trabuco and State Route 133."

Thought retail was going there?  Or am I confusing this with something else.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: thelandofnoland on February 16, 2015, 02:22:52 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Angels_Baseball_2015 on June 24, 2015, 07:29:35 PM
Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: ukuoy on June 24, 2015, 07:53:58 PM
Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
There's space for a shopping center at that corner?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Angels_Baseball_2015 on June 24, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
There's space for a shopping center at that corner?
Yes, "Community Commercial" below.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: BruinRevolution on June 24, 2015, 10:46:37 PM
Ahhh....so that is what that huge hold in the ground is for. When I run on JOST heading north (from my place in CV), I always was wondering what they were gonna do with that huge pit.

I like it! Put in a couple of good places to eat, have a nice neighborhood bar or 2, maybe a Massage Envy and some premium retail joints and BOOM, we have ourselves something nice in CV!!!

Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
There's space for a shopping center at that corner?
Yes, "Community Commercial" below.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AW on June 25, 2015, 09:33:20 AM
This is referring to sand cyn and trabuco?  Haven't seen much there except for flat land, actually miss seeing the strawberry fields...
Don't think you can see it from JOST since that's on Jeffrey. There's already a cypress village retail on Jeffrey. The one with da luau, albertsons, kohls, etc
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eqly on June 25, 2015, 10:19:21 AM
Ahhh....so that is what that huge hold in the ground is for. When I run on JOST heading north (from my place in CV), I always was wondering what they were gonna do with that huge pit.

I like it! Put in a couple of good places to eat, have a nice neighborhood bar or 2, maybe a Massage Envy and some premium retail joints and BOOM, we have ourselves something nice in CV!!!

Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
There's space for a shopping center at that corner?
Yes, "Community Commercial" below.

I think what you are referring to is the retention basin on southeast corner of Jeffrey and Trabuco.  I don't think they are doing anything with that since that takes drainage runoff from Woodbury during rain events. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Angels_Baseball_2015 on June 25, 2015, 03:57:19 PM
Ahhh....so that is what that huge hold in the ground is for. When I run on JOST heading north (from my place in CV), I always was wondering what they were gonna do with that huge pit.

I like it! Put in a couple of good places to eat, have a nice neighborhood bar or 2, maybe a Massage Envy and some premium retail joints and BOOM, we have ourselves something nice in CV!!!

Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
There's space for a shopping center at that corner?
Yes, "Community Commercial" below.

I think what you are referring to is the retention basin on southeast corner of Jeffrey and Trabuco.  I don't think they are doing anything with that since that takes drainage runoff from Woodbury during rain events.
No, I meant the "Community Commercial" at the top right of the image (in green), at the intersection of Sand Canyon and Trabuco.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eqly on June 26, 2015, 08:03:11 AM
Thanks Angels_ Baseball_2015, but I was referring to BruinRevolution's comment.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Bullsback on April 25, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
Ahhh....so that is what that huge hold in the ground is for. When I run on JOST heading north (from my place in CV), I always was wondering what they were gonna do with that huge pit.

I like it! Put in a couple of good places to eat, have a nice neighborhood bar or 2, maybe a Massage Envy and some premium retail joints and BOOM, we have ourselves something nice in CV!!!

Anyone know of any updates on the commercial/shopping center that will be built at Sand Canyon and Trabuco/Roosevelt?  Seems like a lot of speculation but nothing concrete yet.  Thank you.
There's space for a shopping center at that corner?
Yes, "Community Commercial" below.

I think what you are referring to is the retention basin on southeast corner of Jeffrey and Trabuco.  I don't think they are doing anything with that since that takes drainage runoff from Woodbury during rain events.
No, I meant the "Community Commercial" at the top right of the image (in green), at the intersection of Sand Canyon and Trabuco.
This is a better place for my last question.  I had heard this weekend that commercial / retail was going to go in on Sand Canyon and Trabuco (Ipac project).  Also on traduce, but within the GP community, will be another retail center (although it sounds like it will be a relatively small one).  Anyone know the details on either project? 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on April 25, 2016, 09:35:07 PM
This is a better place for my last question.  I had heard this weekend that commercial / retail was going to go in on Sand Canyon and Trabuco (Ipac project).  Also on traduce, but within the GP community, will be another retail center (although it sounds like it will be a relatively small one).  Anyone know the details on either project? 

The GP one is at corner of Trabuco and Ridge Valley (South of Trabuco, East of Ridge Valley).  See the map below, it's at District 1 South.

There's thread on it but no useful info yet. 
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,13952.0.html

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Bullsback on April 26, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
This is a better place for my last question.  I had heard this weekend that commercial / retail was going to go in on Sand Canyon and Trabuco (Ipac project).  Also on traduce, but within the GP community, will be another retail center (although it sounds like it will be a relatively small one).  Anyone know the details on either project? 

The GP one is at corner of Trabuco and Ridge Valley (South of Trabuco, East of Ridge Valley).  See the map below, it's at District 1 South.

There's thread on it but no useful info yet. 
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,13952.0.html
Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: WTTCHMN on April 26, 2016, 09:18:01 AM
This is a better place for my last question.  I had heard this weekend that commercial / retail was going to go in on Sand Canyon and Trabuco (Ipac project).  Also on traduce, but within the GP community, will be another retail center (although it sounds like it will be a relatively small one).  Anyone know the details on either project? 

The GP one is at corner of Trabuco and Ridge Valley (South of Trabuco, East of Ridge Valley).  See the map below, it's at District 1 South.

There's thread on it but no useful info yet. 
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,13952.0.html
Thank you!!!

Where's the map?  I just see a picture of a bald guy eating ice cream.  Or is Test trying to send a secret message?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: lnc on April 26, 2016, 11:54:03 AM
Look what I just found. :)

There's shopping center at corner of Trabuco and Sand Canyon

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png/v1/fill/w_630,h_365,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Bullsback on April 26, 2016, 12:56:44 PM
Look what I just found. :)

There's shopping center at corner of Trabuco and Sand Canyon

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png/v1/fill/w_630,h_365,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png)
Yeah...IPAC putting that one in and GP having their's just a traffic light away seems convenient. I was surprised with Woodbury and Cypress Village shopping centers that TIC wold put the shopping center there as well (maybe they want the location so they have something to compete directly with the Five Points retail space? Either way, should be a win for residents. 
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on March 02, 2017, 09:00:26 AM
The LA Times just posted a nice expose on air pollution and living near freeways. The evidence is compelling. Don't risk your kids future for convenience to the freeway.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-freeway-pollution/

I posted about this issue back in 2014 regarding the danger of living close to freeways:

So I glean two things from test's "not-an-answer":

1. She doesn't live in Newport like she claimed.
2. She is deaf.

What I glean from this is that Test doesn't give a shit about you or your child's health. All she wants to do is make a buck for her company in CV.

The evidence is compelling. If you live within close proximity to a busy roadway like the I5 it is bad for your health.

Children's Health Study shows increased risk of respiratory disease
http://hydra.usc.edu/scehsc/about-studies-childrens.html

UCLA study found freeway air pollution travels as far as 1.5 miles
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/air-pollution-from-freeway-extends-93857

Government Agrees to start monitoring freeway air pollution due to health risks
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-freeway-pollution-20130826-story.html


Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on August 20, 2017, 10:15:07 AM
Should Irvine be warning residents about the danger of air pollution near freeways?

A new LA Times article discusses LA's struggle to balance housing development and public health.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-freeway-pollution-warnings-20170804-story.html


The LA Times just posted a nice expose on air pollution and living near freeways. The evidence is compelling. Don't risk your kids future for convenience to the freeway.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-freeway-pollution/

I posted about this issue back in 2014 regarding the danger of living close to freeways:

So I glean two things from test's "not-an-answer":

1. She doesn't live in Newport like she claimed.
2. She is deaf.

What I glean from this is that Test doesn't give a shit about you or your child's health. All she wants to do is make a buck for her company in CV.

The evidence is compelling. If you live within close proximity to a busy roadway like the I5 it is bad for your health.

Children's Health Study shows increased risk of respiratory disease
http://hydra.usc.edu/scehsc/about-studies-childrens.html

UCLA study found freeway air pollution travels as far as 1.5 miles
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/air-pollution-from-freeway-extends-93857

Government Agrees to start monitoring freeway air pollution due to health risks
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-freeway-pollution-20130826-story.html



Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 20, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on August 20, 2017, 08:20:09 PM
Cypress Village School Year Book:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/33/8a/06/338a066dd392b82c3b97e30072628860.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 20, 2017, 11:08:19 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on August 21, 2017, 07:53:40 AM
First day of school this week:

(https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1442874/mers-south-korea.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on August 21, 2017, 08:11:53 AM
Talk about living near pesticides effects = ok
Talk about living near fwy effects = shocking?


Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: iacrenter on August 21, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
Talk about living near pesticides effects = ok
Talk about living near fwy effects = shocking?

CV is lucky to have both 😀
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 21, 2017, 11:03:42 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on August 21, 2017, 11:23:18 AM
why did you guys repeatedly use photos of Asian children? Are you guys insinuating what I think it is you're insinuating?

I think thin masks are not that effective. I think a person would need a mask with filtration.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: marmott on August 21, 2017, 12:15:31 PM
These masks are effective but you need to change them pretty often as they lose effectiveness.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: peppy on August 21, 2017, 01:54:51 PM
These masks are effective but you need to change them pretty often as they lose effectiveness.

No, they are not.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 21, 2017, 02:01:16 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on August 22, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
Should Irvine be warning residents about the danger of air pollution near freeways?

A new LA Times article discusses LA's struggle to balance housing development and public health.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-freeway-pollution-warnings-20170804-story.html

YF ! (Another direction towards Hazards)


You know the part that amazes me the most is that people will buy at CVE (trellis court/lantana) backing the 133 or buy at CV (Acacia/Caserta) backing the 5fwy, and they seem to turn a blind eye to the freeway and justify it as a non-issue, which is totally fine. Nothing wrong with that. Freeway homes do keep prices low and more competitive.

But then the folks who want to buy in OH and recently went to Padova were all immediately turned off by the fact that it was backing the 261.

Padova discussion: http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,15145.15.html

As eyephone would put it, "sounds like a double standard to me".


Lastly, I have 4 of these in my house. Works beautifully. I think folks need not worry. Just buy 10 of these and put them in every room. [Dyson HEPA air measurer/purifier). It actually monitors the air quality in your house and turns on automatically (even when you're cooking greasy hainan chicken).

(http://www.dyson.com/Sublayouts/V5/medialibrary/Group/ProductImages/FansHeaters/Purifiers/Dyson_Pure_Cool_Link_Tower_White_Silver.ashx)


Funny how Cypress Village is affected by the freeway but other communities like Laguna Altura are magically immune.

Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: peppy on August 22, 2017, 09:06:01 AM
Should Irvine be warning residents about the danger of air pollution near freeways?

A new LA Times article discusses LA's struggle to balance housing development and public health.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-freeway-pollution-warnings-20170804-story.html

YF ! (Another direction towards Hazards)


You know the part that amazes me the most is that people will buy at CVE (trellis court/lantana) backing the 133 or buy at CV (Acacia/Caserta) backing the 5fwy, and they seem to turn a blind eye to the freeway and justify it as a non-issue, which is totally fine. Nothing wrong with that. Freeway homes do keep prices low and more competitive.

But then the folks who want to buy in OH and recently went to Padova were all immediately turned off by the fact that it was backing the 261.

Padova discussion: http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,15145.15.html

As eyephone would put it, "sounds like a double standard to me".


Lastly, I have 4 of these in my house. Works beautifully. I think folks need not worry. Just buy 10 of these and put them in every room. [Dyson HEPA air measurer/purifier). It actually monitors the air quality in your house and turns on automatically (even when you're cooking greasy hainan chicken).

(http://www.dyson.com/Sublayouts/V5/medialibrary/Group/ProductImages/FansHeaters/Purifiers/Dyson_Pure_Cool_Link_Tower_White_Silver.ashx)


Funny how Cypress Village is affected by the freeway but other communities like Laguna Altura are magically immune.

That gate also keeps the pollution away.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 22, 2017, 10:13:00 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on August 22, 2017, 10:16:03 AM
Should Irvine be warning residents about the danger of air pollution near freeways?

A new LA Times article discusses LA's struggle to balance housing development and public health.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-freeway-pollution-warnings-20170804-story.html

YF ! (Another direction towards Hazards)


You know the part that amazes me the most is that people will buy at CVE (trellis court/lantana) backing the 133 or buy at CV (Acacia/Caserta) backing the 5fwy, and they seem to turn a blind eye to the freeway and justify it as a non-issue, which is totally fine. Nothing wrong with that. Freeway homes do keep prices low and more competitive.

But then the folks who want to buy in OH and recently went to Padova were all immediately turned off by the fact that it was backing the 261.

Padova discussion: http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,15145.15.html

As eyephone would put it, "sounds like a double standard to me".


Lastly, I have 4 of these in my house. Works beautifully. I think folks need not worry. Just buy 10 of these and put them in every room. [Dyson HEPA air measurer/purifier). It actually monitors the air quality in your house and turns on automatically (even when you're cooking greasy hainan chicken).

(http://www.dyson.com/Sublayouts/V5/medialibrary/Group/ProductImages/FansHeaters/Purifiers/Dyson_Pure_Cool_Link_Tower_White_Silver.ashx)


Funny how Cypress Village is affected by the freeway but other communities like Laguna Altura are magically immune.

I guess that was an oversight.
The environmental chart should change. (YF?)
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: AW on August 22, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
That gate also keeps the pollution away.

 ;D ;D ;D LOL  ;D ;D ;D

Which is why, OH3 will be a hot seller!
Hot seller!  I see what you did there, OH3 bordering on the fire hazard severity zone
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on August 22, 2017, 10:30:38 AM
That gate also keeps the pollution away.

 ;D ;D ;D LOL  ;D ;D ;D

Which is why, OH3 will be a hot seller!
Hot seller!  I see what you did there, OH3 bordering on the fire hazard severity zone

Lol
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 22, 2017, 10:33:54 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: eyephone on August 22, 2017, 10:35:07 AM
That's why I said...HOT seller.

Just two days ago, it was literally SMOKIN' HOT at OH3.

(https://d3926qxcw0e1bh.cloudfront.net/post_photos/0a/44/0a44c31b934b8967cd859f86fe13ba99.jpg.max800.jpg)

Btw - what was the cause of that fire?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Burn That Belly on August 22, 2017, 10:37:07 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: test on April 30, 2021, 12:03:03 PM
Look what I just found. :)

There's shopping center at corner of Trabuco and Sand Canyon

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png/v1/fill/w_630,h_365,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png)

No more shops.

(https://i1.wp.com/irvinewatchdog.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/PA40.png?w=1076&ssl=1)

https://irvinewatchdog.org/2021/04/30/irvine-company-seeks-to-add-more-medium-high-density-residential-units-in-los-olivos-and-cypress-village-has-the-city-and-the-irvine-company-worked-out-a-public-benefit-agreement/
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irviniteeee on April 30, 2021, 12:24:26 PM
Look what I just found. :)

There's shopping center at corner of Trabuco and Sand Canyon

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png/v1/fill/w_630,h_365,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/e9cc5e_70021f7984924bf0b7d31fb36893797f.png)

No more shops.

(https://i1.wp.com/irvinewatchdog.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/PA40.png?w=1076&ssl=1)

https://irvinewatchdog.org/2021/04/30/irvine-company-seeks-to-add-more-medium-high-density-residential-units-in-los-olivos-and-cypress-village-has-the-city-and-the-irvine-company-worked-out-a-public-benefit-agreement/

Typical. That’s a disappointment. I’m honestly not understanding the logic at this point. Cram in more and more living spaces but don’t expand shopping choices. Good luck to everyone who lives in that area! The Woodbury Town Center is already a nightmare.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 30, 2021, 01:21:47 PM
Can't tell from the article, was it decided to convert 4.20 to housing?
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: irviniteeee on April 30, 2021, 01:43:14 PM
Can't tell from the article, was it decided to convert 4.20 to housing?

It looks like Irvine company is proposing it, but I’m sure it will pass.
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: Cares on April 30, 2021, 02:01:13 PM
Here's an article from Irvine Watchdog

https://irvinewatchdog.org/2021/04/30/irvine-company-seeks-to-add-more-medium-high-density-residential-units-in-los-olivos-and-cypress-village-has-the-city-and-the-irvine-company-worked-out-a-public-benefit-agreement/?fbclid=IwAR2j_fhuKSUZqpIYB8lZ3QGRlRTH1psYBrmZS4MgNQ1IwtadQoPpW4MVKIs
Title: Re: Cypress Village Homes
Post by: HMart on May 01, 2021, 11:11:53 PM
Commercial real estate demand is weak(ish) and residential is strong, so I get it from an Irvine Company perspective. Looking at the market prices at Great Park, there are a lot of people who don't seem to care about the lack of commercial amenities. Makes no sense to me, but there you are.
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