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Title: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: aquabliss on June 17, 2021, 01:48:15 PM
Just curious where you guys have been looking?  I've been thinking about it for quite some time but not sure I could leave this OC paradise in the end.  A couple communities I like in other states:

Montverde, Florida (suburb of Orlando) / Bella Colina: https://www.bellacollina.com/
Haven't visited yet but like this area, may check it out in person later in the year. 

Prosper, Texas (suburb of Dallas) / Windsong Ranch: https://windsongranchliving.com/
Visited here last year, it's an awesome neighborhood but prices spiked pretty high this year. 

Share some neighborhoods in other states you guys have looked at...
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Soylent Green Is People on June 17, 2021, 02:32:16 PM
The Carolinas - North or South. Can't live too far from an ocean.....  Yes, there is a terrific risk of hurricanes in the Carolinas, but we get fires, floods, earthquakes, and incurable knuckleheadedness from our politicians so all in all, it balances.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Cares on June 17, 2021, 02:56:37 PM
I personally would consider PNW area so Portland or Seattle. I just like the weather and the outdoors.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: daedalus on June 17, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
There's a heatwave gripping the rest of the SW region and our high today was 76F.  The weather is equally kind in the winter.  Can't see myself leaving anytime soon.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: eyephone on June 17, 2021, 04:27:31 PM
The Carolinas - North or South. Can't live too far from an ocean.....  Yes, there is a terrific risk of hurricanes in the Carolinas, but we get fires, floods, earthquakes, and incurable knuckleheadedness from our politicians so all in all, it balances.

Climate change there also.

Abc News: HOW NORTH CAROLINA IS ALREADY SEEING THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE
https://abc11.com/north-carolina-climate-risk-assessment-and-resilience-plan-change-nc-sea-level-rising/10517031/

The State News: As heat rises, SC watches quietly. Will state suffer from lack of climate action?
https://www.thestate.com/news/local/environment/article239527278.html
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: aquabliss on June 17, 2021, 04:31:26 PM
The Carolinas - North or South. Can't live too far from an ocean.....  Yes, there is a terrific risk of hurricanes in the Carolinas, but we get fires, floods, earthquakes, and incurable knuckleheadedness from our politicians so all in all, it balances.

I've considered the Carolina's but haven't looked into it much.  Do you have a link to a neighborhood you were considering there? 
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: eyephone on June 17, 2021, 04:49:02 PM
They like to bash California climate change issues.

They forget or do not want to talk about the other climate change issues because it does not fit their agenda. Things to consider: water is rising in Louisiana, Florida, beaches are eroding in the Carolinas. Texas freezing and temperature rising with utility issues , Iowa/midwest flooding, soil has become drier in Alabama, increase rain and flooding in Kentucky, Oklahoma had a surge of earthquakes since 2009.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: sleepy5136 on June 17, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Careful about Texas. Their property taxes are equivalent to GP. Home price may be low assuming you make CA wage but that is a one time benefit. Property taxes are perpetual.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Ready2Downsize on June 17, 2021, 05:16:20 PM
The Carolinas - North or South. Can't live too far from an ocean.....  Yes, there is a terrific risk of hurricanes in the Carolinas, but we get fires, floods, earthquakes, and incurable knuckleheadedness from our politicians so all in all, it balances.

I've considered the Carolina's but haven't looked into it much.  Do you have a link to a neighborhood you were considering there?

One of my sisters moved to SC. Her house isn't close to the beach so the chance for hurricanes is lower (they can still get tornados and lots of rain tho). Property taxes and home prices are pretty low.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Soylent Green Is People on June 17, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
We have friends in Greenville, SC. inland, but a very nice community. Still has a small town feel to things. Could keep a 2nd home near Myrtle Beach as prices for decent homes remain in the mid to upper 2's... Water is in the 80's for most of the Summer. Beats Cali's 72ish pacific temps.

Chapel Hill / Raleigh NC are also a consideration for us. Nice to be in a college town as they tend to keep the area vibrant. Very wooded area and has 4 true seasons. 2+ hour drive to the ocean, but still... a great reduction in california kookie-ness which more than offsets the risk of hurricane flooding IMHO.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: eyephone on June 17, 2021, 05:40:48 PM
Careful about Texas. Their property taxes are equivalent to GP. Home price may be low assuming you make CA wage but that is a one time benefit. Property taxes are perpetual.

Not only that. Another potential electricity crisis during this summer. Electric operator in Texas ask Texans to conserve according to cnn article.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 17, 2021, 06:48:38 PM
Texas.

John's Creek.

Who am I kidding... I'm never leaving SoCal.

Although... I may consider Canada (west coast only).
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Kenkoko on June 17, 2021, 09:08:17 PM
We're close to pulling the trigger on moving to South Maui.

There are very few places in the US that are more suitable and friendly for East Asians than Irvine. Maui is on par with Irvine in that regard. And better for those who still have ties and need to travel to Asia.

My parents bought a beach house there in 2007 and we've been vacationing there every year since 2007 (except during COVID)

They now plan to live there majority of the time.

We've always loved the area but never imagined living there regularly.

COVID really changed our life planning.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on June 17, 2021, 09:14:50 PM
I think when it's time to retire, I'll move to Summerlin in Las Vegas.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Cares on June 17, 2021, 09:17:31 PM
I think when it's time to retire, I'll move to Summerlin in Las Vegas.

I don't know man. I can't stand the heat and Vegas is just beyond bearable for me.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: eyephone on June 17, 2021, 09:20:18 PM
I think when it's time to retire, I'll move to Summerlin in Las Vegas.

Temperature around 115 F degrees in Vegas this week.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: aquabliss on June 18, 2021, 01:09:54 AM
I think when it's time to retire, I'll move to Summerlin in Las Vegas.

I don't know man. I can't stand the heat and Vegas is just beyond bearable for me.

But guys, it’s a dry heat lol... we went to Vegas for Memorial Day and even then was too hot for me.  Also just something about Vegas with all those rocks and cactus kinda depressing, I need to see green belts and mature trees when I’m strolling around town to pickup boba and stuff.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on June 18, 2021, 07:57:57 PM
I think when it's time to retire, I'll move to Summerlin in Las Vegas.

I don't know man. I can't stand the heat and Vegas is just beyond bearable for me.

My dad and his arthritis love Vegas, he always complains how his arthritis acts up when he comes down to Orange County to see me and pick up his meds.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on June 18, 2021, 07:58:46 PM
I think when it's time to retire, I'll move to Summerlin in Las Vegas.

I don't know man. I can't stand the heat and Vegas is just beyond bearable for me.

But guys, it’s a dry heat lol... we went to Vegas for Memorial Day and even then was too hot for me.  Also just something about Vegas with all those rocks and cactus kinda depressing, I need to see green belts and mature trees when I’m strolling around town to pickup boba and stuff.

There are only 2-3 spots that I would live in Vegas that are Irvine like (master plan communities). 
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: akula1488 on June 19, 2021, 01:26:54 PM
My dream house is in PNW with lots of trees, by a body of water, away from people. And it better rains 200 days a year, exactly opposite of what my wife's wants lol. She is SoCal and SoCal only.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: OCtoSV on June 21, 2021, 10:49:30 AM
Bedford, New Hampshire. Super upscale, can buy a rad pad for $700K, 40 mi to downtown Boston, 30 mins drive to the beach on uncrowded fwy, 45 mins to ski area (so winter is fine there for me) or 4 hrs to decent powder in Jay Peak or to Montreal. No state income tax, no sales tax. Super strict voting laws. High degree of software/high tech ppl or Boston FSI. Better (and cheaper) seafood than anything you'll get here.

Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on June 21, 2021, 06:12:41 PM
Bedford, New Hampshire. Super upscale, can buy a rad pad for $700K, 40 mi to downtown Boston, 30 mins drive to the beach on uncrowded fwy, 45 mins to ski area (so winter is fine there for me) or 4 hrs to decent powder in Jay Peak or to Montreal. No state income tax, no sales tax. Super strict voting laws. High degree of software/high tech ppl or Boston FSI. Better (and cheaper) seafood than anything you'll get here.



Sounds like an awesome place other than the cold winters (I get cold when it gets below 60).
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: freedomcm on June 22, 2021, 07:13:10 AM
I like NH, but you get what you pay for with regards to taxes.  roads bad, schools mostly mediocre (though Bedford itself has good schools), and property taxes not low.

Life is full of trade-offs...

Bedford, New Hampshire. Super upscale, can buy a rad pad for $700K, 40 mi to downtown Boston, 30 mins drive to the beach on uncrowded fwy, 45 mins to ski area (so winter is fine there for me) or 4 hrs to decent powder in Jay Peak or to Montreal. No state income tax, no sales tax. Super strict voting laws. High degree of software/high tech ppl or Boston FSI. Better (and cheaper) seafood than anything you'll get here.


Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: nosuchreality on June 22, 2021, 08:04:01 AM
In the past I’ve considered employment (with Job offers) moves for the family to Arizona, Texas, Florida, New Jersey, Michigan and DC Metro.

Over-all I rate New Jersey has best when using weighted considerations on intangibles and tangibles. Great job mobility, comp, good schools, Gov services similar to Cali.

DC Metro (McLean) was good, Irvine on steroids almost. Like New Jersey, most comparable. Gave off a moving to West Side LA vibe though.

Arizona was lowest hanging fruit.  Great for exiting the job market. Low job mobility at higher levels.  Great opportunity to spin up light touch franchises, etc.  but, IMHo, a trap for corporate types.  Intangible social, really bad, and as we’ve seen, too tight MAGA hat land.

Michigan and Detroit.  Actually really great, lots of opportunity, a bit auto industry heavy.  Winters suck, previously lived there. Sucks worse as it doesn’t get that cold and you get plagued with freezing drizzle in the winter.

Florida, egads Florida. A great place if you like limited job opportunities, what they lack in Gob’ment services is made up for with inept Gub’ment services and a punitive attitude to those needing assistance, ensconced in a twisted 1960’s religious and social bigotry while trying to hook themselves up 19 year old island side squeeze. Based off of working 1-2 weeks a month across multiple years.  So some stuff is absolutely great beach life, ocean access, affordability, etc but wow does it come with baggage.

Texas, varies greatly by location (Austin, Houston, Dallas). I looked at Austin, this was pre MAGA.  Softer job market, lower salaries, higher property taxes and the MAGA thing was already strong. Otherwise great.

JM2C.  The economic pieces are easy to see, figuring out if you’re moving to a place that is still electing a Sheriff like the one in “Just Mercy”, who remained in office re-elected until 2019, is the hard part.
My job read is based off of tech VP track, if you're in a different field like Education etc or different spot on track, YMMV.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: bones on June 22, 2021, 09:49:25 AM
In the past I’ve considered employment (with Job offers) moves for the family to Arizona, Texas, Florida, New Jersey, Michigan and DC Metro.

Over-all I rate New Jersey has best when using weighted considerations on intangibles and tangibles. Great job mobility, comp, good schools, Gov services similar to Cali.

DC Metro (McLean) was good, Irvine on steroids almost. Like New Jersey, most comparable. Gave off a moving to West Side LA vibe though.

Arizona was lowest hanging fruit.  Great for exiting the job market. Low job mobility at higher levels.  Great opportunity to spin up light touch franchises, etc.  but, IMHo, a trap for corporate types.  Intangible social, really bad, and as we’ve seen, too tight MAGA hat land.

Michigan and Detroit.  Actually really great, lots of opportunity, a bit auto industry heavy.  Winters suck, previously lived there. Sucks worse as it doesn’t get that cold and you get plagued with freezing drizzle in the winter.

Florida, egads Florida. A great place if you like limited job opportunities, what they lack in Gob’ment services is made up for with inept Gub’ment services and a punitive attitude to those needing assistance, ensconced in a twisted 1960’s religious and social bigotry while trying to hook themselves up 19 year old island side squeeze. Based off of working 1-2 weeks a month across multiple years.  So some stuff is absolutely great beach life, ocean access, affordability, etc but wow does it come with baggage.

Texas, varies greatly by location (Austin, Houston, Dallas). I looked at Austin, this was pre MAGA.  Softer job market, lower salaries, higher property taxes and the MAGA thing was already strong. Otherwise great.

JM2C.  The economic pieces are easy to see, figuring out if you’re moving to a place that is still electing a Sheriff like the one in “Just Mercy”, who remained in office re-elected until 2019, is the hard part.
My job read is based off of tech VP track, if you're in a different field like Education etc or different spot on track, YMMV.


I would say that's a pretty accurate read for finance VP track as well. I've lived in the top 2 and would agree with your assessment except I prefer NOVA over NJ.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: OCtoSV on June 22, 2021, 09:58:45 AM
We just came back from a trip spanning BOS, NH and NJ (Spring Lake, the nicest town by far on the Jersey shore - known as the Irish Riviera). While Spring Lake has a tax abatement from tourism that keeps prop taxes <1% base, my friends larger house in a tonier inland NJ town has a $35K prop tax bill on $1.3M assessment. But agreed NJ is overrall an attractive spot given the metro NY job market spans FSI/pharma/some tech and you can buy a nice house in a nice town on a train line for $700K.

I would still choose Bedford for proximity to Boston, snowboarding spots and the beach. I would install a propane/nat gas whole house backup generator + Tesla Solar/Powerwall and make sure I was on municipal water/sewer, but otherwise I would cash out and live large back there in an early retirement.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: Legit949 on June 24, 2021, 09:24:46 AM
I’m leaning towards Brentwood/Franklin Tennessee. Zero State Income Tax, low property taxes and great schools…
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: OCtoSV on June 24, 2021, 01:10:39 PM
I was there in 99 for a wedding - really really nice. But it's the south. No proximity to ocean. Nashville RE has boomed so it's not exactly cheap. I would still lean NH but you have definitely identified one of the best places to live in the SE US.
Title: Re: Any TI Residents looking to move out of state?
Post by: eyephone on June 24, 2021, 01:17:49 PM
Let us know when you leave. So we can buy your home.
I know many people that come back to Cali.
Due to the following: food options, climate, diversity, low pay, etc)
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