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Title: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 12, 2020, 10:58:01 AM
Covid has already killed more people in 3.5 months in the US than the "regular" flu's deadliest season.

And this was while we were staying home.

Where do you think we will be at by end of June?

I hope it's less than 100k... but with qwerty not wearing a mask it's going to be higher than that. :)
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Kings on May 12, 2020, 11:15:35 AM
less than 60k

we will go back and determine via autopsy that we overcounted to pump up the numbers
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: StarmanMBA on May 12, 2020, 12:01:48 PM
less than 60k

we will go back and determine via autopsy that we overcounted to pump up the numbers

For profit.  Uncle Sam pays states to report Covid as the cause of death, so what do you think they are going to do!
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 12, 2020, 12:06:47 PM
less than 60k

we will go back and determine via autopsy that we overcounted to pump up the numbers

For profit.  Uncle Sam pays states to report Covid as the cause of death, so what do you think they are going to do!

He is against the data. Because it does not fit into his agenda.
Let me take a guess. You do not believe in vaccines? The man to the moon was fake?
Conspiracy theories are getting old.

Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: StarmanMBA on May 12, 2020, 12:49:12 PM


He is against the data. Because it does not fit into his agenda.
Let me take a guess. You do not believe in vaccines? The man to the moon was fake?
Conspiracy theories are getting old.

You dishonestly, reprehensibly put YOUR words into MY mouth and then get indignant over YOUR WORDS maliciously and dishonestly put into MY mouth. 
How Democrat of you. 
I've had more of your nonsense than I care to read.  Life is too short to have to put up with people who never add anything to a discussion except pettiness and lies.
My Ignore List just grew by you, and to think you gave me a warm welcome recently.  I forgot you thanked querty when he smeared me with vulgar hatefulness which does not bear repeating.

Go from the presence of a foolish man. - The Holy Bible

ciao, brutto
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 12, 2020, 01:00:57 PM


He is against the data. Because it does not fit into his agenda.
Let me take a guess. You do not believe in vaccines? The man to the moon was fake?
Conspiracy theories are getting old.

You dishonestly, reprehensibly put YOUR words into MY mouth and then get indignant over YOUR WORDS maliciously and dishonestly put into MY mouth. 
How Democrat of you. 
I've had more of your nonsense than I care to read.  Life is too short to have to put up with people who never add anything to a discussion except pettiness and lies.
My Ignore List just grew by you, and to think you gave me a warm welcome recently.  I forgot you thanked querty when he smeared me with vulgar hatefulness which does not bear repeating.

Go from the presence of a foolish man. - The Holy Bible

ciao, brutto

Please refresh our memory. What did qwerty say to you?
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Liar Loan on May 12, 2020, 04:31:42 PM
Covid has already killed more people in 3.5 months in the US than the "regular" flu's deadliest season.

And this was while we were staying home.

Where do you think we will be at by end of June?

I hope it's less than 100k... but with qwerty not wearing a mask it's going to be higher than that. :)

Whose prediction was closest last time?
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 12, 2020, 04:36:01 PM
Covid has already killed more people in 3.5 months in the US than the "regular" flu's deadliest season.

And this was while we were staying home.

Where do you think we will be at by end of June?

I hope it's less than 100k... but with qwerty not wearing a mask it's going to be higher than that. :)

Whose prediction was closest last time?

Your buddy the fake financial guy predicted 5k deaths. Lol
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 12, 2020, 05:14:41 PM
Covid has already killed more people in 3.5 months in the US than the "regular" flu's deadliest season.

And this was while we were staying home.

Where do you think we will be at by end of June?

I hope it's less than 100k... but with qwerty not wearing a mask it's going to be higher than that. :)

Whose prediction was closest last time?

Unsure. The results of the last poll showed 10 people voted for 40k and 11 people voted 80k or more for end of April.

End of April was just over 63k if I remember correctly.

26 people voted so the majority felt this was a very serious virus.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Happiness on May 12, 2020, 05:42:58 PM
"Dying with" and "dying of" Covid 19 are not the same thing. If you contract covid 19, have mild or no symptoms, and get run over by a steam roller, it would be misleading to stay you died of Covid 19.

If we eliminate serious comorbidities, I'm sure the number of deaths would be much lower.

Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 12, 2020, 06:12:18 PM
"Dying with" and "dying of" Covid 19 are not the same thing. If you contract covid 19, have mild or no symptoms, and get run over by a steam roller, it would be misleading to stay you died of Covid 19.

If we eliminate serious comorbidities, I'm sure the number of deaths would be much lower.

We discussed this before. Since we can’t really get that kind of distinction we just go by what we get.

On the other side, if the hospitals are overrun due to overload of Covid cases and you can’t get proper treatment after getting steamrolled... did you die because “of” Covid? :)
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Liar Loan on May 12, 2020, 06:33:36 PM
Covid has already killed more people in 3.5 months in the US than the "regular" flu's deadliest season.

And this was while we were staying home.

Where do you think we will be at by end of June?

I hope it's less than 100k... but with qwerty not wearing a mask it's going to be higher than that. :)

Whose prediction was closest last time?

Unsure. The results of the last poll showed 10 people voted for 40k and 11 people voted 80k or more for end of April.

End of April was just over 63k if I remember correctly.

26 people voted so the majority felt this was a very serious virus.

My written prediction was 60k, so looks like in addition to my prescient calls on Irvine home prices, I've got the best track record when it comes to predicting deaths.... which are related topics I suppose.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 12, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
Covid has already killed more people in 3.5 months in the US than the "regular" flu's deadliest season.

And this was while we were staying home.

Where do you think we will be at by end of June?

I hope it's less than 100k... but with qwerty not wearing a mask it's going to be higher than that. :)

Whose prediction was closest last time?

Unsure. The results of the last poll showed 10 people voted for 40k and 11 people voted 80k or more for end of April.

End of April was just over 63k if I remember correctly.

26 people voted so the majority felt this was a very serious virus.

My written prediction was 60k, so looks like in addition to my prescient calls on Irvine home prices, I've got the best track record when it comes to predicting deaths.... which are related topics I suppose.

It is closer than 5k. Your far off on the deaths. Because it is 80k plus.

#gototheiE
#covidhoax? Lol
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: StarmanMBA on May 13, 2020, 08:54:20 AM



On the other side, if the hospitals are overrun due to overload of Covid cases and you can’t get proper treatment after getting steamrolled... did you die because “of” Covid? :)

VERY big "if."
I play tennis with a doctor who works for Kaiser Permanente.  Their hospitals are practically EMPTY!  They are laying off nurses.

Orange County has 673 Intensive Care Units. The most that have been occupied since the Panic is 65.

This "overload of Covid cases" is nonsense.  Complete and total nonsense.
The navy hospital ship docked at Long Beach to handle the "overload" received only 15 patients before leaving. 

Stop with the panic already.  If you're that afraid, stay at home for as long as you want, but don't shove your panic down the throats of everyone else. Let's call it our "choice" to be free.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 13, 2020, 11:27:26 AM
Why do people keep discounting the shelter/stay at home orders for why hospitals did not get overrun? For why the death count isn't higher?

Again, if US states/counties/cities did not issue stay at home orders... do you think the number of deaths would only be 80k? Give me an honest answer instead of poorly backed rhetoric.

Edit: typo
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: zubs on May 13, 2020, 11:31:49 AM
Well obviously we have flattened the curve.  My brothers furlough from Kaiser ends 05.18.2020.  He applied for unemployment for the 3 weeks he was not working.  He was laid off because Kaiser hospitals all became covid 19 wards, and other medical procedures were put on STOP.  The Covid tidal wave did not come.

I told him the government didn't know how bad it could get, but now that we see it ain't so bad, we should open up.  We will see more cases when we open, but we have enough room at hospitals to deal with it.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: woodburyowner on May 13, 2020, 11:50:03 AM
Well obviously we have flattened the curve.  My brothers furlough from Kaiser ends 05.18.2020.  He applied for unemployment for the 3 weeks he was not working.  He was laid off because Kaiser hospitals all became covid 19 wards, and other medical procedures were put on STOP.  The Covid tidal wave did not come.

What was his position at Kaiser?  I believe no doctors were furloughed and just reassigned.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Ready2Downsize on May 13, 2020, 11:51:56 AM
Well obviously we have flattened the curve.  My brothers furlough from Kaiser ends 05.18.2020.  He applied for unemployment for the 3 weeks he was not working.  He was laid off because Kaiser hospitals all became covid 19 wards, and other medical procedures were put on STOP.  The Covid tidal wave did not come.

I told him the government didn't know how bad it could get, but now that we see it ain't so bad, we should open up.  We will see more cases when we open, but we have enough room at hospitals to deal with it.

Well that is good to know cuz hospitalizations in the OC are going up not down and so are ICU cases. Guess that's all lagging indicators and not likely to go up even more after we're all back to work.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: zubs on May 13, 2020, 12:08:39 PM
Radiologist. 
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Innosint on May 14, 2020, 01:31:19 PM
the death count doesn't seem to be slowing down much in USA.... considering it's 80k from march to May. I think it could reach 125k by end of June
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: momopi on May 14, 2020, 04:42:26 PM
It's unlikely that we will get accurate totals on number of people who died directly as result of COVID-19.  Like they said when COVID-19 hit, suddenly nobody died of <insert other causes>.  The deceased are being cremated or buried without autopsy in many places.

Debating over number of COVID-19 deaths at this point is not really useful.  Efforts should be directed to protecting yourself.  Many local Korean stores now selling imported face shields and masks.  H-mart in Lakewood checks your temperature on entry and provide disposable gloves to all customers.  Read international press on what other countries are using for treatment, such as favipiravir/Avigan, Camostat, etc.  Because of the enormous profit potential of COVID-19 drug treatment you can expect company A to sing praises on its products while company B's press agents point out all the warts.  If you want to be a prepper you can mail order Camostat Mesilate tablets from Japan (expect lengthy shipping time), but please do not self medicate and only take drugs under consultation with your physician.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: daedalus on May 14, 2020, 04:43:42 PM
the death count doesn't seem to be slowing down much in USA.... considering it's 80k from march to May. I think it could reach 125k by end of June

It has always struck me as odd that at the global level, the chart has been nearly perfectly linear since we  got past the parabolic growth stage.  Almost as if there's a basic universal mortality rate (BUMR (TM)) to C19. 

With that in mind, I'm putting my June 30 call right at 200,000  EDIT:  Upping to 200,000.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Liar Loan on May 14, 2020, 10:28:49 PM
I'm going with 140,000.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Liar Loan on May 14, 2020, 10:57:43 PM
It has always struck me as odd that at the global level, the chart has been nearly perfectly linear since we  got past the parabolic growth stage.  Almost as if there's a basic universal mortality rate (BUMR (TM)) to C19. 

I mean it started to go linear around April 1 which is a couple of weeks after most countries put in place social distancing orders, so it makes perfect sense to me.  The curve was flattened and exponential growth was prevented, aside from the few well known hot spots.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 15, 2020, 12:11:41 AM
I'm going with 140,000.

Wow, a lot more than 60k your original estimate.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 15, 2020, 12:16:56 AM
I'm going with 140,000.

Wow, a lot more than 60k your original estimate.

I believe that was for end of April.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 15, 2020, 12:50:32 AM
I'm going with 140,000.

Wow, a lot more than 60k your original estimate.

I believe that was for end of April.

Oh my bad 60k was kings original estimate
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: daedalus on May 15, 2020, 02:06:29 AM
I mean it started to go linear around April 1 which is a couple of weeks after most countries put in place social distancing orders, so it makes perfect sense to me.  The curve was flattened and exponential growth was prevented, aside from the few well known hot spots.

I'm not doubting the timing.  But why flat?  What's so magical about the various states of lockdown around the globe that they create an overall linear growth rate from the infinite number of shapes possible?  It could have been a slower parabolic, or slightly asymptotic.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: freedomcm on May 15, 2020, 06:29:53 AM
So if you are 80 years old, and suffer hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and are obese, and then contract SARS-CoV-2 and develop COVID-19-like difficulty breathing and expire, was your death due to COVID, or all those underlying conditions, or age?


"Dying with" and "dying of" Covid 19 are not the same thing. If you contract covid 19, have mild or no symptoms, and get run over by a steam roller, it would be misleading to stay you died of Covid 19.

If we eliminate serious comorbidities, I'm sure the number of deaths would be much lower.


Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on May 15, 2020, 07:51:04 AM
What if your young/middle age: Have the following condition(s): obese, diabetes, high blood pressure, asthma, any other health

The chances of that person that catches covid and might die goes up with those conditions mentioned above goes up.


So if you are 80 years old, and suffer hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and are obese, and then contract SARS-CoV-2 and develop COVID-19-like difficulty breathing and expire, was your death due to COVID, or all those underlying conditions, or age?


"Dying with" and "dying of" Covid 19 are not the same thing. If you contract covid 19, have mild or no symptoms, and get run over by a steam roller, it would be misleading to stay you died of Covid 19.

If we eliminate serious comorbidities, I'm sure the number of deaths would be much lower.


Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 17, 2020, 11:33:25 AM
Over 90k deaths.

Looks like the US will go over 100k before end of May.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: StarmanMBA on May 17, 2020, 11:47:25 AM
Over 90k deaths.

Looks like the US will go over 100k before end of May.

That should make Democrats absolutely giddy as it distracts everyone from the fiasco of Joe Biden's unraveling and the Scandal of Obama, Comey, Lynch, FBI, and all the rest of the crooks.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 17, 2020, 11:49:23 AM
Why bring politics into this thread?

Covid is nonpartisan.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on May 17, 2020, 08:47:40 PM
I'm thinking we'll be at 150k by the end of June.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 24, 2020, 11:56:44 AM
99k deaths.

Wow. Will probably be over 125k by end of June... so terrible.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 27, 2020, 09:57:17 AM
Over 101k and it's not even the end of May yet.

But that's okay right? It's only the old and pre-existing condition people who are dying... they don't matter... that's the "card they were dealt".
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: qwerty on May 27, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
People die every day.

Not to take this on a tangent but It would be nice if more Americans were as passionate against Police brutality against African Americans as they are about saving covid deaths. Perhaps we would not have incidents like George Floyd. Saw the video yesterday. That was brutal to watch.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 27, 2020, 10:42:55 AM
People die every day.
Cop out remark.

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Not to take this on a tangent but It would be nice if more Americans were as passionate against Police brutality against African Americans as they are about saving covid deaths. Perhaps we would not have incidents like George Floyd. Saw the video yesterday. That was brutal to watch.

They are... have you seen the protests?

Personally, we did the Arbery 2.23 mile memorial on 5/8 (his birthday)... were you just sitting at home saying "People die every day"?

Not sure how you are drawing the line between racist crimes and public health safety during a pandemic.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: qwerty on May 27, 2020, 11:58:23 AM
People die every day.
Cop out remark.

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Not to take this on a tangent but It would be nice if more Americans were as passionate against Police brutality against African Americans as they are about saving covid deaths. Perhaps we would not have incidents like George Floyd. Saw the video yesterday. That was brutal to watch.

They are... have you seen the protests?

Personally, we did the Arbery 2.23 mile memorial on 5/8 (his birthday)... were you just sitting at home saying "People die every day"?

Not sure how you are drawing the line between racist crimes and public health safety during a pandemic.

It’s easy, one can be stopped and the other one can’t. Just being delayed.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 27, 2020, 12:12:38 PM
I think the lockdown and distance teaching has taken a toll on qwerty's intelligence.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 29, 2020, 08:20:02 AM
Not to take this on a tangent but It would be nice if more Americans were as passionate against Police brutality against African Americans as they are about saving covid deaths. Perhaps we would not have incidents like George Floyd. Saw the video yesterday. That was brutal to watch.

As I said... have you seen the protests... much more "passionate" than any Covid/Lockdown protest.

You know why? Most people understand that flattening the curve is a reasonable solution, I mean... the entire world agreed on that... except for you. I don't even know if morekaos or Kings thinks we should not have locked down.

It’s easy, one can be stopped and the other one can’t. Just being delayed.

Which one are you talking about? How do you propose flattening police brutality?

Nothing is easy when it comes to protecting lives.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Happiness on May 29, 2020, 03:36:05 PM
I think the lockdown and distance teaching has taken a toll on qwerty's intelligence.

I would have thought you'd blame qwerty brain damage on the virus rather than the lockdown.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 29, 2020, 05:48:05 PM
This is a sad commentary on what is going on:

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Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 04, 2020, 10:39:40 PM
So if this gets over 150k, what does that mean?

I hope it doesn't... but the numbers seem to be tracking in that direction.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: nosuchreality on June 05, 2020, 07:41:06 AM
150,000 by when?

The actions taken were to prevent millions of deaths.  If the uncontrolled run is 300,000, did we mess up?

It’s a two sided coin, how many more deaths indicates failure in reopening, the other is under how many deaths indicates failure in shutdown and  disproportionate fear mongering?

Yes, the economy gets damage either way, but that’s with all channels basically saying it spreads like wildfire and you die if you go to the hospital with it.


We are currently at just over 100,000 deaths.  If didn't shutdown, how many more deaths would we have had? 50,000?  100,000?  How many of those 50,000 or 100,000 are additional versus now instead of some time later?

Now let's talk about our current situation, a vaccine, still months out, deaths are trending about 1000 per day with the decrease slowing, if we stabilize near 1000 deaths a day, what's our plan?

1000 deaths a day from covid for the next year is possible.  Is everybody stay at home next year realistic for 300,000 deaths?


 
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 05, 2020, 10:02:10 AM
@NSR:

Over 150k by end of June like the poll says.

I don't think we need to re-lockdown... we just need to be vigilant in quarantining those who are ill, sheltering those who are at-risk, and using best practice safety protocols for those out and about.

There may be hotspots that need to be locked down, but that should be on a case-by-case basis.

Maybe that's the way we should have done this in the first place... but with so many unknowns... I felt that we took the safest measures based on what we knew at the time.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 23, 2020, 11:41:59 AM
Thankfully... it doesn't look like it will hit 150k by end of June.

At the current rate, it looks like it might go just over 130k but it looks like deaths are slowing down as we understand more about treating Covid and keeping at risk people safe.

Cases seem to be rising which was expected but hopefully it's at a rate that is manageable, and for any of the serious cases, we have used this time to prepare resource wise.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Bullsback on June 23, 2020, 02:11:26 PM
Thankfully... it doesn't look like it will hit 150k by end of June.

At the current rate, it looks like it might go just over 130k but it looks like deaths are slowing down as we understand more about treating Covid and keeping at risk people safe.

Cases seem to be rising which was expected but hopefully it's at a rate that is manageable, and for any of the serious cases, we have used this time to prepare resource wise.
Either way - we will just stop testing and identifying who is positive by that point.  Is this really what our great nation has came to. We are just going to bury our heads in the sand and give up.  I can't get over how significantly the US has failed relative to the vast majority of developed countries we historically claimed to be superior to.  Unbelievable and just sad.  Even if we get lucky and the ignore it and test less strategy works...it will only because of sheer luck of the virus going away. It will not because of any actual skill or strategic insights, it is just because we have demonstrated a clear inability as a nation to come together and actually respond to challenging circumstances.  Instead we have decided that politics matter more than what is right. 

It is just sad and pathetic. 
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on June 23, 2020, 02:51:09 PM
Thankfully... it doesn't look like it will hit 150k by end of June.

At the current rate, it looks like it might go just over 130k but it looks like deaths are slowing down as we understand more about treating Covid and keeping at risk people safe.

Cases seem to be rising which was expected but hopefully it's at a rate that is manageable, and for any of the serious cases, we have used this time to prepare resource wise.
Either way - we will just stop testing and identifying who is positive by that point.  Is this really what our great nation has came to. We are just going to bury our heads in the sand and give up.  I can't get over how significantly the US has failed relative to the vast majority of developed countries we historically claimed to be superior to.  Unbelievable and just sad.  Even if we get lucky and the ignore it and test less strategy works...it will only because of sheer luck of the virus going away. It will not because of any actual skill or strategic insights, it is just because we have demonstrated a clear inability as a nation to come together and actually respond to challenging circumstances.  Instead we have decided that politics matter more than what is right. 

It is just sad and pathetic.

I understand and I do not get it also. The top country in the world could not get in front of covid. As I mentioned other countries got in front of covid and did not spend billions and trillions of dollars.

Simple social distancing and wearing masks will help this. It all comes from the top. The President does not want to show that covid is a problem.
Trump recently said that he thinks Americans are wearing masks that disapprove of him.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/trump-says-some-wear-coronavirus-masks-to-signal-disapproval-of-him.html

Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: StarmanMBA on June 24, 2020, 10:58:20 AM
While Fake News continues to breathlessly cite "new cases" of Covid 19, they ignore the fact that only deaths count.  More testing of course leads to more positive tests, but so what?  The survival rate is well in excess of 99% and probably in excess of 99.9%.

Gee I got a sore throat and it went away. Call Fake News immediately and panic.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 24, 2020, 03:07:03 PM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on June 24, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)

Sounds like he hates Irvine. ghost account of Liar?
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: paydawg on June 24, 2020, 06:27:42 PM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)

Sounds like he hates Irvine. ghost account of Liar?
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Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on June 24, 2020, 07:36:47 PM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)

Sounds like he hates Irvine. ghost account of Liar?

Starman is probably about 65 yrs old, if not older, based on his prior posts.  I think Liar is closer to his 40-50's.

Similarities: they both use the word sic, unlike Irvine, same political views, they both will not confirm or deny 
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 24, 2020, 08:02:43 PM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)

Sounds like he hates Irvine. ghost account of Liar?

Starman is probably about 65 yrs old, if not older, based on his prior posts. 

Yet more evidence that he is Trump. :)

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I think Liar is closer to his 40-50's. 

Yeah, I don't think LL is Starman. For all his anti-Irvine rhetoric, LL doesn't drop as much hate on other posters and doesn't use the chicken... err... ignore list. :)
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on June 24, 2020, 08:15:56 PM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)

Sounds like he hates Irvine. ghost account of Liar?

Starman is probably about 65 yrs old, if not older, based on his prior posts. 

Yet more evidence that he is Trump. :)

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I think Liar is closer to his 40-50's. 

Yeah, I don't think LL is Starman. For all his anti-Irvine rhetoric, LL doesn't drop as much hate on other posters and doesn't use the chicken... err... ignore list. :)

I think (think) both of them mentioned where is my thanks. (If my memory serves me correctly)
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on June 25, 2020, 10:30:37 AM
Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)

Sounds like he hates Irvine. ghost account of Liar?

Starman is probably about 65 yrs old, if not older, based on his prior posts. 

Yet more evidence that he is Trump. :)

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I think Liar is closer to his 40-50's. 

Yeah, I don't think LL is Starman. For all his anti-Irvine rhetoric, LL doesn't drop as much hate on other posters and doesn't use the chicken... err... ignore list. :)

I think (think) both of them mentioned where is my thanks. (If my memory serves me correctly)

Same characteristics. Sorry but the where are my thanks does it for me.
Also, I noticed when someone is on TI the other person is not.

It is so obvious with the same distasteful political nonsense.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 25, 2020, 10:40:06 AM
I don't recall LL hating on the left, just propping up the right.

LL has a different vernacular and posting style but you never know.
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: StarmanMBA on June 25, 2020, 11:44:29 AM

Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)



While reading your brief post, Paydawg, I could not help but see the nonsense prattled by irvinehomeowner, whose very name boasts of "owning a home" in Irvine.

For the benefit of others besides irvinehomeowner, I will explain what is only too obvious to me and people of good will and common sense.

Decent people appreciate good ideas.  Indecent people, such as irvinehomeowner and his pal eyephone, find sour grapes everywhere.  My points and suggestions are not about me.  What hateful Leftists think about me is immaterial.   As Dennis Prager said, "You shouldn't care about what others think about you.  You should only care what God thinks about you."

You can choose to not help keep your community clean by picking up litter.
You can choose to not help your fellow man by not stopping to help someone else in need.
You can choose to look the other way when something needs to be repaired or the park lights need to be turned off, or there are electrical hazards that could kill a child. 

If you haven't thought about such things, maybe you should.   Better yet, do them.
But ridiculing someone purely out of your own ignorance and pettiness.... that's just sick, like looting and burning stores is sick.  Trump supporters aren't the ones doing the looting and arson and occupying central Seattle. 
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 25, 2020, 12:25:22 PM

Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)



While reading your brief post, Paydawg, I could not help but see the nonsense prattled by irvinehomeowner, whose very name boasts of "owning a home" in Irvine.

For the benefit of others besides irvinehomeowner, I will explain what is only too obvious to me and people of good will and common sense.

Decent people appreciate good ideas.  Indecent people, such as irvinehomeowner and his pal eyephone, find sour grapes everywhere.  My points and suggestions are not about me.  What hateful Leftists think about me is immaterial.   As Dennis Prager said, "You shouldn't care about what others think about you.  You should only care what God thinks about you."

You can choose to not help keep your community clean by picking up litter.
You can choose to not help your fellow man by not stopping to help someone else in need.
You can choose to look the other way when something needs to be repaired or the park lights need to be turned off, or there are electrical hazards that could kill a child. 

If you haven't thought about such things, maybe you should.   Better yet, do them.
But ridiculing someone purely out of your own ignorance and pettiness.... that's just sick, like looting and burning stores is sick.  Trump supporters aren't the ones doing the looting and arson and occupying central Seattle. 

Such hypocrisy!!!

If I'm on ignore, don't respond... that's the point. Otherwise, stop being a chicken and let's have a discussion... "that's what few men do".
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: eyephone on June 25, 2020, 12:31:28 PM

Likes to tell stories, talks about how many great things he does, calls everything fake news... and hates on the left... I think Starman is Trump's TI account. :)



While reading your brief post, Paydawg, I could not help but see the nonsense prattled by irvinehomeowner, whose very name boasts of "owning a home" in Irvine.

For the benefit of others besides irvinehomeowner, I will explain what is only too obvious to me and people of good will and common sense.

Decent people appreciate good ideas.  Indecent people, such as irvinehomeowner and his pal eyephone, find sour grapes everywhere.  My points and suggestions are not about me.  What hateful Leftists think about me is immaterial.   As Dennis Prager said, "You shouldn't care about what others think about you.  You should only care what God thinks about you."

You can choose to not help keep your community clean by picking up litter.
You can choose to not help your fellow man by not stopping to help someone else in need.
You can choose to look the other way when something needs to be repaired or the park lights need to be turned off, or there are electrical hazards that could kill a child. 

If you haven't thought about such things, maybe you should.   Better yet, do them.
But ridiculing someone purely out of your own ignorance and pettiness.... that's just sick, like looting and burning stores is sick.  Trump supporters aren't the ones doing the looting and arson and occupying central Seattle. 

Such hypocrisy!!!

If I'm on ignore, don't respond... that's the point. Otherwise, stop being a chicken and let's have a discussion... "that's what few men do".

Someone else that we previously talked about ran away from the discussion. Also, if you look back at his previously posts. He made far fetched political just like this guy. (same characteristic)

#sic
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: Liar Loan on September 21, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
the death count doesn't seem to be slowing down much in USA.... considering it's 80k from march to May. I think it could reach 125k by end of June

Worldometers.info says the death toll was 130k on June 30, so looks like Innosint was closest at 125k, followed by yours truly at 140k. 

Congratulations to all of the participants!
Title: Re: Estimate of deaths by end of June from Covid-19
Post by: nosuchreality on September 21, 2020, 05:40:26 PM
We have 102 days left in the year.  We're at 204,416 deaths according to worldmeter.  Our 7 day rolling average is 796 deaths per day.   

Putting our year end run at 285K aka 300K, provided we don't increase between now and Christmas.

That may sound familiar.

Got my flu shot for the year.  The pharmacist was telling me they've already run out three times for the strong dose for the elderly and twice for the regular dose after they told an older person asking if they could get their shot they were out.  So on positive front, people are prepping.
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