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General => Technology => Topic started by: SubSolar on September 10, 2015, 01:12:39 PM

Title: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on September 10, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
http://m.ocregister.com/articles/fiber-681915-google-city.html

First Cox, now Google!
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Irvinecommuter on September 10, 2015, 01:24:47 PM
http://m.ocregister.com/articles/fiber-681915-google-city.html

First Cox, now Google!

Competition is good! 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: aquabliss on September 10, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Alright, it's about time. 

Do you think all of Irvine will have it available or only elite villages? 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: AW on September 10, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Probably only new neighborhoods, like u verse (Woodbury east yes, old Woodbury no)
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 10, 2015, 01:49:55 PM
$70 for Internet, $130 for Internet+TV.

I think I'm paying $150 currently with phone service.

Maybe I'll go with Dish's $49.99 for 2 years, Google Internet and Oomla.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Bullsback on September 10, 2015, 01:59:55 PM
If true...this would be amazing. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: lnc on September 10, 2015, 02:12:15 PM
Nice! 

Wonder how they going to implemented it to the existing communities and maybe not all the Irvine communities will get it.  Hope my does, finer crossed.   
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: bitmaster20 on September 10, 2015, 02:16:24 PM
I am excited. Got this email a short while ago:

(http://i.imgur.com/BEF9V19.png)
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on September 10, 2015, 09:24:00 PM
Ironically, I've been waiting for Cox to offer their gigabit for $99 a month. Numerous delays. Now I will most likely be getting Google Fiber instead, if it's available in my neighborhood, for $30 a month cheaper. Cox would have locked me in for 2 years. You snooze you lose, Cox!
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: qwerty on September 10, 2015, 10:13:52 PM
Won't it take years before google fiber is offered?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on September 10, 2015, 11:56:36 PM
Great news. One more reason to live in Irvine  :)

Hopefully this will put pressure on Cox to lower prices and speedup their deployment of Gigabit Internet.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Bullsback on September 11, 2015, 08:22:23 AM
In the areas Google has gone (most noteably KC..their initial launch point), the cable companies have all had to drastically adjust their pricing to contend.  I wonder what timing is from announcement to roll-out. I presume you are talking 2+ years. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on September 11, 2015, 09:02:07 AM
One article said about 1 year from invitation. Another said after city gets everything together, ready within months.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 11, 2015, 09:05:36 AM
Thinking about the logistics, unless Google cuts a deal with Cox or AT&T to use some of their infrastructure, this roll-out can't be in all 'hoods.

At minimum they need to get the fiber to the hubs, then from there I think it's fair play on the coax from hub to homes.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Bullsback on September 11, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
Thinking about the logistics, unless Google cuts a deal with Cox or AT&T to use some of their infrastructure, this roll-out can't be in all 'hoods.

At minimum they need to get the fiber to the hubs, then from there I think it's fair play on the coax from hub to homes.
I think they do the roll out based upon potential sign up in various neighborhoods. So when interest levels hit enough, then they go full board in that particular area. I don't think they will be using other people's infrastructure, it will be their own, but because cities have to kind of bid go through this whole process to get google, the carpet gets rolled out and makes things a lot easier for Google to implement (then it is for cable companies) and get their hubs in (and then from a hood perspective, I presume then they leverage existing wiring into houses, etc). 

Plus google has a lot of capital behind them so they can and tend to move faster then companies who are less motivated to roll out infastructure / new infastructure because they already have customers and aren't losing them.

Having google in here will be the best thing that could happen from a tech / internet / tv perspective. The pressures it will put on Cox to continue to stay relevant will be huge, imo. 

Google is also entering into the wireless business with google Fi...albeit with limited infrastructure investments (as they leverage Tmobile and Sprint signals). 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: zubs on September 11, 2015, 10:49:17 AM
Isn't there a google office on Jamboree?  It's probably going there first.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: djnick on September 11, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
how do we get on the waiting list or sign up? I just signed a 2 year with cox but i'll pay any penalty to get google fiber
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: aquabliss on September 11, 2015, 10:57:32 AM
how do we get on the waiting list or sign up? I just signed a 2 year with cox but i'll pay any penalty to get google fiber

Go here and input your address:
https://fiber.google.com/about/irvine/

It'll say not yet available but then the next screen will ask for your email and they'll send you updates via email regarding availability in the future.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: oceanmonkey on September 11, 2015, 12:08:52 PM
i wanted to fire COX for so long... but the second best choice is ATT which is a total internet speed suicide.
very happy to hear Google fiber is coming into irvine, i will be the first one to sign up.

Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Irvinecommuter on September 11, 2015, 01:02:33 PM
i wanted to fire COX for so long... but the second best choice is ATT which is a total internet speed suicide.
very happy to hear Google fiber is coming into irvine, i will be the first one to sign up.

I have to say that Cox is very reliable and steady as to its service...almost never have any down time.  With that said, their customer service is terrible and pricing is equally bad.  Cannot wait for Google Fiber to, if not anything, put a fire underneath Cox.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on September 15, 2015, 02:42:47 PM
how do we get on the waiting list or sign up? I just signed a 2 year with cox but i'll pay any penalty to get google fiber

were still at least a year out.. that's if/when Irvine approves Google to do whatever they want.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: AW on September 15, 2015, 02:50:32 PM
And they're hiring. 
There's a couple google fiber related postings on their job site
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on September 16, 2015, 07:31:29 AM
Man it would be exciting once it comes in.. bye bye Cox and your sky high prices.. F Uverse and it's "newer technology yet lower speeds". 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on September 27, 2015, 11:51:29 PM
Hope they allow it here.  Many parts of Irvine can't get real ATT Uverse.  They are stuck with fake Uverse which is pretty terrible and slow. 

Real Uverse is pretty great.  It's only available where their TV packages are available.  It's not as fast as Cox, good enough.  Not a fan of the increasing cost of Cox for internet.

Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on September 29, 2015, 07:35:29 AM
Hope they allow it here.  Many parts of Irvine can't get real ATT Uverse.  They are stuck with fake Uverse which is pretty terrible and slow. 

Real Uverse is pretty great.  It's only available where their TV packages are available.  It's not as fast as Cox, good enough.  Not a fan of the increasing cost of Cox for internet.
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What is real and what is fake?  A few of my friends out here PS and SG have TV service.. their uVerse internet sucked.  Switched to Cox. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on October 03, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Portola Springs should be real uverse.  What was bad about the internet?  Was it not getting advertised speeds?

How about the tv service?

I can't help but wonder if the uverse bans to in the other parts of Irvine affect things.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on October 04, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Portola Springs should be real uverse.  What was bad about the internet?  Was it not getting advertised speeds?

How about the tv service?

I can't help but wonder if the uverse bans to in the other parts of Irvine affect things.

Their max speed was about 20. Couldn't get anything faster.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on October 04, 2015, 09:54:12 PM
In my experience you are lucky to get 20-25 mbps with U-Verse. It's distant dependent, I know many who are stuck at 5-6 mbps.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on October 05, 2015, 07:51:34 AM
In my experience you are lucky to get 20-25 mbps with U-Verse. It's distant dependent, I know many who are stuck at 5-6 mbps.

Right.. I think that's what happened.  The highest advertised package was around 20.. but he was only getting half that.  He would often get annoyed because simple streaming videos online kept pausing.. these were just clips like on ESPN. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on October 05, 2015, 08:00:29 AM
In my experience you are lucky to get 20-25 mbps with U-Verse. It's distant dependent, I know many who are stuck at 5-6 mbps.

Right.. I think that's what happened.  The highest advertised package was around 20.. but he was only getting half that.  He would often get annoyed because simple streaming videos online kept pausing.. these were just clips like on ESPN.

Yeah, they will give you the theoretical maximum but it's not a good prediction. DSL and U-Verse are the worst in my experience. Cable and FIOS the best.

I had many clients move forced to move from AT&T DSL to U-Verse and things actually got worse. So bad they couldn't even keep a reliable connection at 3 mbps.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on October 09, 2015, 10:58:28 PM
In my experience you are lucky to get 20-25 mbps with U-Verse. It's distant dependent, I know many who are stuck at 5-6 mbps.
That's the fake u-verse.  Usually TV isn't available with fake uverse.  It's pretty much AT&T DSL which is one of the worst.

I never had problems with the 20Mbps uverse.  The TV was way better than what Cox had to offer (quality and features).  Optimally, I'd use Cox for internet and Uverse for TV.  The next best thing is Cox for internet and DirecTv for TV.  That said, Cox internet is too expensive. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on October 09, 2015, 11:49:50 PM
In my experience you are lucky to get 20-25 mbps with U-Verse. It's distant dependent, I know many who are stuck at 5-6 mbps.
That's the fake u-verse.  Usually TV isn't available with fake uverse.  It's pretty much AT&T DSL which is one of the worst.

I never had problems with the 20Mbps uverse.  The TV was way better than what Cox had to offer (quality and features).  Optimally, I'd use Cox for internet and Uverse for TV.  The next best thing is Cox for internet and DirecTv for TV.  That said, Cox internet is too expensive.

Well, U-Verse was supposed to be a competitor to Verizon FIOS but it pales in comparison. 20 mbps isn't even what the government considers "broadband!" I have Cox for Internet and DirecTV for TV now. Cox isn't that bad on price, I get around 120 mbps for $70 I think. Supposedly $99 for gigabit when it comes out. Although I'll probably ditch both for Google Fiber which in other areas has been $70 for Internet and $130 for Internet+TV.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on October 10, 2015, 01:09:50 AM
Cox isn't that bad on price, I get around 120 mbps for $70 I think.
$70 is a lot, though.  The prices have slowly crept up from $30 to $40 to $50 to $70.  Yes it's 120Mbps, but I'd be happy with 30Mbps.  Netflix says it uses 5Mbps per HD stream. 

I'm not sure how noticeable the benefit is of going from 30Mbps to 120Mbps unless you are doing torrents or UltraHD streams.  $50/mo seems quite reasonable to me.

Supposedly $99 for gigabit when it comes out. Although I'll probably ditch both for Google Fiber which in other areas has been $70 for Internet and $130 for Internet+TV.
I'd consider that if it has the channels I like in HD.  I expect it all to be HD.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on October 10, 2015, 06:46:26 AM
Cox is pricey and more expensive than say twc.  Cant wait for fiber.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: paperboyNC on October 10, 2015, 07:34:16 AM
Google Fiber TV package looks awesome!
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on October 10, 2015, 09:49:43 AM
Cox isn't that bad on price, I get around 120 mbps for $70 I think.
$70 is a lot, though.  The prices have slowly crept up from $30 to $40 to $50 to $70.  Yes it's 120Mbps, but I'd be happy with 30Mbps.  Netflix says it uses 5Mbps per HD stream. 

I'm not sure how noticeable the benefit is of going from 30Mbps to 120Mbps unless you are doing torrents or UltraHD streams.  $50/mo seems quite reasonable to me.

Supposedly $99 for gigabit when it comes out. Although I'll probably ditch both for Google Fiber which in other areas has been $70 for Internet and $130 for Internet+TV.
I'd consider that if it has the channels I like in HD.  I expect it all to be HD.

Well, you're supposed to have 25 mbps for each 4k stream. I have one 4K TV and two 4K monitors. Another 4K TV by end of year for the bedroom coming. Also everyone plays online video games and streams to iPads and laptops. But I'd say after say 100 to 150 mbps, the rest is just bragging rights, like having a 1,000 horsepower car.

But if you're already paying $70 for 120 mbps, why wouldn't you want 1,000 mbps for $0 to $30 more a month?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on December 29, 2015, 11:16:25 AM
anybody got an update on this?

unbelievable..  my buddy accidentally typed in the wrong CC number for his payment with a new credit card.. Cox charged him $25.  He called in and they told him a lot of companies do this.  the f? 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: B2FiNiTY on December 30, 2015, 02:09:38 AM
wow. never heard of that.

Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: test on December 30, 2015, 11:02:14 AM
anybody got an update on this?

unbelievable..  my buddy accidentally typed in the wrong CC number for his payment with a new credit card.. Cox charged him $25.  He called in and they told him a lot of companies do this.  the f? 

Cox is monopolized theft.  When you call them for a credit they will instead double the charge and say it was done by mistake, then when you try to get that credited their system will keep declining it.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: woodburyowner on February 18, 2016, 02:35:14 PM
Saw some guys working on measuring the underground conduits.  They have been tasked to provide drawings of the underground lines in various neighborhoods.  They have done Woodbury, Stonegate and NW2 so far.  These conduits could be used to run fiber through them. 

The worker I spoke to is a field worker so I am making my own assumptions.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on February 18, 2016, 05:57:28 PM
I would be surprised if those people were working for Google.  I think we are probably a year plus away.

According to the OC Register in 2015:

"The city must provide Google Fiber a list of assurances – such as access to existing equipment and obstacle-free permitting – in an effort to persuade the company to install its network. Then city officials wait.

In other cities that use Google Fiber, the wait time from invite to confirmation was about a year. So far, no proposed Google Fiber city has been later rejected."
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: woodburyowner on February 18, 2016, 10:24:59 PM
I would be surprised if those people were working for Google.  I think we are probably a year plus away.

These guys definitely didn't work for google.  I think google wanted to know the layout of the communities and how much fiber needed to be put in.  City "lost" or never got the plans so now they have to hire a 3rd party company to manually map out these underground conduits.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: aquabliss on March 27, 2016, 11:56:05 PM
Hurry up Google!  Cox just raised their prices again.  Now $73/mo for 50Mbps.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on March 28, 2016, 06:54:37 AM
Hurry up Google!  Cox just raised their prices again.  Now $73/mo for 50Mbps.

Call in and say ur switching to att
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: paperboyNC on March 28, 2016, 02:35:39 PM
Hurry up Google!  Cox just raised their prices again.  Now $73/mo for 50Mbps.

Check if Gigapower is available. $75/mo for 300mbps up and down.
https://www.att.com/shop/u-verse/gigapower.html
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 28, 2016, 09:42:19 PM
Hurry up Google!  Cox just raised their prices again.  Now $73/mo for 50Mbps.

Check if Gigapower is available. $75/mo for 300mbps up and down.
https://www.att.com/shop/u-verse/gigapower.html

I posted this in the other thread but AT&T has a 500 gb data cap and the lower price is for one year and if you basically agree to be part of AT&T's data collection service.  Honestly, I am not sure how different that is with Google but they are things to consider.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on March 29, 2016, 06:53:41 AM
Hurry up Google!  Cox just raised their prices again.  Now $73/mo for 50Mbps.

Check if Gigapower is available. $75/mo for 300mbps up and down.
https://www.att.com/shop/u-verse/gigapower.html

I posted this in the other thread but AT&T has a 500 gb data cap and the lower price is for one year and if you basically agree to be part of AT&T's data collection service.  Honestly, I am not sure how different that is with Google but they are things to consider.

Does anyone know how available (city wide) these Cox competitors are for customers? Is it primarily new build areas?

I will be sad if Google Fiber is only built for the  new villages.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: aquabliss on March 29, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
Hurry up Google!  Cox just raised their prices again.  Now $73/mo for 50Mbps.

Check if Gigapower is available. $75/mo for 300mbps up and down.
https://www.att.com/shop/u-verse/gigapower.html

Looks like it's available, $80/mo - not bad.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/o8ryux.jpg)
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on March 30, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
I live in the older area of Irvine that refused to let AT&T have faster speeds.  Only thing available from AT&T is fake uverse. 

I recall when Irvine was turning down AT&T that people were claiming that AT&T shouldn't be allowed to improve because AT&T sucks.  What? 

The main reason, though, it was rejected is because the people in these areas didn't want to see new equipment possibly go up in or near their front yards.  This is why I'm surprised that Google is getting an opportunity.  I hope AT&T can also be allowed in these areas as well when they let Google in.  The more competition, the better for us.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Logik on March 30, 2016, 04:03:08 PM
The pricing seems reasonable compared to what COX is now charging for 100Mbps (~$82) but don't like the requirement to opt in for all your web browsing which they refer to as ATT Internet Preferences.  If you opt out the price is $109(vs. $80) for 300Mbps and $139(vs. $109) for 1Gps.  In addition the monthly cap is 500GB for the 300Mbps and 1Tb for the 1Gps speeds with $10 per addl 50GB.  I imagine for some folks these monthly caps may be to low.

From ATT website:
With AT&T Internet Preferences, what types of information are you collecting?

The web pages you visit, the time you spend on each, the links or ads you see and follow, and the search terms you enter. We won't collect information from secure (https) or otherwise encrypted sites, such as when you enter your credit card to buy something online or do online banking on a secure site.

How does AT&T Internet Preferences work with my browser's privacy settings?

AT&T Internet Preferences works independently of your browser's privacy settings regarding cookies, do-not-track, and private browsing. If you opt in to AT&T Internet Preferences, we'll still be able to collect and use your web browsing information independently of those settings.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: paperboyNC on March 31, 2016, 09:12:48 AM
The pricing seems reasonable compared to what COX is now charging for 100Mbps (~$82) but don't like the requirement to opt in for all your web browsing which they refer to as ATT Internet Preferences.  If you opt out the price is $109(vs. $80) for 300Mbps and $139(vs. $109) for 1Gps.  In addition the monthly cap is 500GB for the 300Mbps and 1Tb for the 1Gps speeds with $10 per addl 50GB.  I imagine for some folks these monthly caps may be to low.

From ATT website:
With AT&T Internet Preferences, what types of information are you collecting?

The web pages you visit, the time you spend on each, the links or ads you see and follow, and the search terms you enter. We won't collect information from secure (https) or otherwise encrypted sites, such as when you enter your credit card to buy something online or do online banking on a secure site.

How does AT&T Internet Preferences work with my browser's privacy settings?

AT&T Internet Preferences works independently of your browser's privacy settings regarding cookies, do-not-track, and private browsing. If you opt in to AT&T Internet Preferences, we'll still be able to collect and use your web browsing information independently of those settings.


Note that Cox 100mbps has very slow upload speeds (under 10 mbps) while Uverse 300mbps has 300mbps upload as well. If you have Uverse TV the data cap will no longer apply.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 31, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
The pricing seems reasonable compared to what COX is now charging for 100Mbps (~$82) but don't like the requirement to opt in for all your web browsing which they refer to as ATT Internet Preferences.  If you opt out the price is $109(vs. $80) for 300Mbps and $139(vs. $109) for 1Gps.  In addition the monthly cap is 500GB for the 300Mbps and 1Tb for the 1Gps speeds with $10 per addl 50GB.  I imagine for some folks these monthly caps may be to low.

From ATT website:
With AT&T Internet Preferences, what types of information are you collecting?

The web pages you visit, the time you spend on each, the links or ads you see and follow, and the search terms you enter. We won't collect information from secure (https) or otherwise encrypted sites, such as when you enter your credit card to buy something online or do online banking on a secure site.

How does AT&T Internet Preferences work with my browser's privacy settings?

AT&T Internet Preferences works independently of your browser's privacy settings regarding cookies, do-not-track, and private browsing. If you opt in to AT&T Internet Preferences, we'll still be able to collect and use your web browsing information independently of those settings.


Note that Cox 100mbps has very slow upload speeds (under 10 mbps) while Uverse 300mbps has 300mbps upload as well. If you have Uverse TV the data cap will no longer apply.

I guess I never have a need for super high upload speed. 

I also don't have paid TV right now so the UVerse TV thing is not appealing.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: HomeOwner Irvine on August 02, 2016, 11:00:56 AM
Google Fiber is now available to certain Irvine Company apartment communities and small businesses.

Hopefully the roll-out goes smoothly and is available to more communities in the coming months.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: aquabliss on August 02, 2016, 11:22:17 AM
Ugh, hurry up Google, tired of paying Cox high prices for slow connections.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on August 02, 2016, 12:21:11 PM
Google Fiber is now available to certain Irvine Company apartment communities and small businesses.

Hopefully the roll-out goes smoothly and is available to more communities in the coming months.

I got the same update by email today.

If you live in Irvine please check your address eligibility and leave your email to express interest:

https://fiber.google.com/about/
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on August 02, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
OC Register Article:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/google-724326-irvine-fiber.html

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Google Fiber coming to Irvine apartments, businesses

By TOMOYA SHIMURA
2016-08-02 10:05:40
 
IRVINE – Irvine apartment residents and businesses will likely be the first in Southern California to enjoy Google Fiber, a high-speed network provided by tech giant Google.

Google announced Tuesday that it has teamed up with Irvine Co. to bring the gigabit network to apartment, commercial and retail properties in Irvine. The two companies are deciding which properties will receive the service, said Pete Albers, Google Fiber’s head of real estate partnerships.

“We’re planning to begin work installing our infrastructure in buildings in the next month with the goal of delivering Google Fiber service in the coming months,” Albers said in an email. “This work does take time, but we’ll move as quickly as we’re able, and the infrastructure investments Irvine Co. has made allow us to significantly speed up our time-to-deployment.”

Irvine Co. has been installing empty conduit between and in its properties since the mid-1980s, so the master planner could one day deliver future technology, according to its news release. This infrastructure was a key to bringing Google Fiber to Irvine, the release stated.

“We weren’t sure exactly what the future would hold, but we wanted to be ready for it,” Timothy McClain, Irvine Co. vice president of technology and innovation, said in the release.

Google is also working with the city and other real estate owners and developers to bring the service to other types of buildings, such as single-family homes, Albers said.

The company’s Google Fiber division announced in September that it added Irvine, a city known for its tech industry and educated and affluent residents, to its list of possible expansion cities.

Google Fiber offers broadband speeds up to 1 gigabit, or 1000 megabits, per second. That means downloading a movie in seconds, rather than minutes (or longer).

The average internet connection speed in the United States is about 15 megabits, according to Akamai Technologies’ State of the Internet report.

Google Fiber is currently available in Atlanta, Austin in Texas, Kansas City in Missouri and Kansas, Provo and Salt Lake City in Utah, Charlotte, N.C., and Nashville, Tenn. Prices are $50 per month for 100 megabits internet, $70 for 1 gigabit internet and $130 for internet and cable TV.

Google already has a presence in Irvine with an office at 19510 Jamboree Road. The office houses Google’s engineering and sales teams working on Google Analytics, as well as a suite of revenue and reporting projects that underpin the AdWords platform, according to the company website.

Irvine residents can visit fiber.google.com/cities/irvine to get the latest information on Google Fiber.

Contact the writer: 949-445-6397 or tshimura@ocregister.com

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Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: djnick on August 05, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
who cares about the apts. When is it coming to all the new housing development TIC has done in the last 5 years?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: lnc on August 15, 2016, 11:57:11 AM
Hope Google Fiber for rest of Irvine is still going ahead. 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-fiber-rethinking-its-costly-cable-plans-looking-to-wireless-2016-08-14

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Google Fiber rethinking its costly cable plans, looking to wireless

Alphabet Inc.’s GOOGL, +0.10% Google Fiber unit is rethinking how to deliver internet connections in about a dozen metro areas, including Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas, after its initial rollouts proved more time-consuming and expensive than anticipated, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. In San Jose, Calif., and Portland, Ore., Alphabet has suspended projects while investigating alternate technologies.

In most cases, Google Fiber is hoping to use wireless technology to connect homes rather than underground fiber-optic cables, according to a person familiar with the matter. Elsewhere, Google is leasing existing fiber or asking cities or power companies to build the networks.

The strategy shift comes after Google Fiber reached just six metro areas in four years, illustrating the difficulty and expense of digging up streets and laying thousands of miles of cables.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on August 16, 2016, 12:41:35 AM
Woodbridge area probably told Google to get the hell out of here, like they did with AT&T when it wanted to put in real high speed internet.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on August 16, 2016, 09:22:46 AM
Hope Google Fiber for rest of Irvine is still going ahead. 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-fiber-rethinking-its-costly-cable-plans-looking-to-wireless-2016-08-14

Quote
Google Fiber rethinking its costly cable plans, looking to wireless

Alphabet Inc.’s GOOGL, +0.10% Google Fiber unit is rethinking how to deliver internet connections in about a dozen metro areas, including Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas, after its initial rollouts proved more time-consuming and expensive than anticipated, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. In San Jose, Calif., and Portland, Ore., Alphabet has suspended projects while investigating alternate technologies.

In most cases, Google Fiber is hoping to use wireless technology to connect homes rather than underground fiber-optic cables, according to a person familiar with the matter. Elsewhere, Google is leasing existing fiber or asking cities or power companies to build the networks.

The strategy shift comes after Google Fiber reached just six metro areas in four years, illustrating the difficulty and expense of digging up streets and laying thousands of miles of cables.

might be a bit easier in Irvine as they already have the pipes for this sort of upgrade. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: geran on August 19, 2016, 02:55:28 PM
Let's see, what's the phrasing they use? Oh yeah “people familiar with the matter”... I wouldn't expect the residential to be connected in the near future. There's a clear initial partnership with Irvine Company Apartments at first.

So for now, I am looking at AT&T Gigapower FTTH.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on October 26, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
It looks like Irvine will still get Google Fiber but it will probably be very limited now. They will likley shift from fiber to new high speed wireless given the costs and recent purchase of WebPass.

http://mynewsla.com/business/2016/10/25/google-glitch-in-la-layoffs-no-high-speed-internet/

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/26/google-fiber-suspended-in-san-jose-and-most-other-planned-cities-alphabet-unit-ceo-quits/

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/25/13411912/alphabets-access-will-lay-off-employees-as-it-moves-away-from-fiber
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on October 26, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
by limited.. where is that going to be?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on October 26, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
by limited.. where is that going to be?

Educated guess is that they stick with their original announcement and go no further: TIC rental apartments and commercial buildings.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/google-724326-irvine-fiber.html

Here is an update from the Irvine Google Fiber page:

https://fiber.google.com/cities/irvine/

"We’ve begun working with city leaders to explore the possibility of building a super fast network for Irvine. This means understanding local requirements and challenges—from roads and infrastructure to permits and utility paths. We’re also working to connect some apartments and businesses near existing fiber infrastructure, starting with Irvine Company® properties.

We’d love to keep you updated on our progress. Check your address to be among the first to know when we have more to share."


I also checked out their WebPass service. It appears targeted at multi unit buildings (at least 10 units). Not sure if this technology is cost effective to deploy in a less dense neighborhood.

https://webpass.net

This is not looking good for future competition.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on October 26, 2016, 03:03:02 PM
rats.. guess we are stuck with Cocks and ATT
Title: Re: Google Fiber NOT coming to Irvine
Post by: WTTCHMN on October 26, 2016, 11:33:10 PM
Google Fiber scales back high-speed project in Irvine

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fiber-733439-irvine-google.html
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on October 26, 2016, 11:46:16 PM
Google Fiber scales back high-speed project in Irvine

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fiber-733439-irvine-google.html

Cox and ATT will now slowdown their gigabit rollout and keep their prices high.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Wobert on October 27, 2016, 10:26:05 AM
I see that AT&T Fiber is now available in OH.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: janthony6 on November 01, 2016, 01:41:06 PM
just had att fiber installed in OH.  it's very fast.  1gb down and up.  it's dropped a few times already though.  through directv, i got it for $80 a month.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on November 01, 2016, 11:36:53 PM
It would be nice if the Woodbridge area residents would stop fighting AT&T from upgrading it's internet speeds.  Maybe we wouldn't be stuck with Cox as the only option.  Fake uverse(dsl) is turd.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: zubs on November 02, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
My parents had spotty AT&T DSL service up until i switched them to Time-Warner using a cable line.  It's now stable and works much better. 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: SubSolar on November 02, 2016, 11:37:45 AM
My parents had spotty AT&T DSL service up until i switched them to Time-Warner using a cable line.  It's now stable and works much better.

Yeah DSL and Uverse are distant dependent so if you're on the edge of the maximum distance it will be slow and could be unstable.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: aquabliss on August 16, 2017, 01:28:08 PM
Some people in Woodbury and Cypress Village are saying they already have Google Fiber installed on Nextdoor.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on August 16, 2017, 02:06:30 PM
Some people in Woodbury and Cypress Village are saying they already have Google Fiber installed on Nextdoor.

I checked on their updated webpage: https://fiber.google.com/cities/orangecounty/

$50 for 100 mbps
$70 for 1,000 mbps
$140 for TV + 100 mbps
$160 for TV + 1,000 mbps

I hope they roll out service to older villages as well.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: jmoney74 on August 16, 2017, 02:10:13 PM
it says coming to apartments and condos in orange county.  does that mean no SFRs ever?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: lnc on August 16, 2017, 03:49:36 PM
Yeah, looks like it's only for some apartments.  Anyone in SFR got it? 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Bullsback on August 17, 2017, 07:46:21 AM
I thought Google basically put a stop to any expansion and was reanalyzing how they were going to roll out fiber (due to the high cost of putting it in).  I thought essentially some businesses and apartments were mainly going to be the recipients (but no wide scale Irvine adoption was imminent). 
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: iacrenter on August 17, 2017, 08:43:41 AM
I thought Google basically put a stop to any expansion and was reanalyzing how they were going to roll out fiber (due to the high cost of putting it in).  I thought essentially some businesses and apartments were mainly going to be the recipients (but no wide scale Irvine adoption was imminent). 

I also remember articles mentioning use of high speed wireless technology as a cheaper alternative to fiber. But if they spread beyond IAC apartments that would be a new development. Does anyone on Nextdoor know if those new customers are in SFH?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Perspective on September 12, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
Google Fiber event this Saturday, September 15th

Dear Resident,

Google Fiber is rolling out super fast Internet and TV service in Orchard Hills! Service is currently available for homes in Corta Bella, Vista Scena, and Entrata and will become available for Strada and Terrazza next month. 

The Google Fiber team is holding an event for Corta Bella, Vista Scena, and Entrata residents this Saturday, September 15th, from 9:00 am to 12:00 pm on the lawn at Orchard Terrace Park. Local representatives will be available to answer questions about this new Internet and TV option for the community. Breakfast from the Waffle-icious truck and family activities from Twist & Shout will be provided while supplies last.

Date: September 15, 2018
Time: 9:00a-12:00pm
Location: Orchard Terrace Park (555 Twisted Oak)
Featuring: Breakfast by the Waffle-icious waffle truck and face painting/balloon artistry by Twist & Shout

Stay tuned for another event announcement for Strada and Terrazza residents in October!
Google Fiber means enough Internet for everyone at home. Learn more at google.com/fiber/oc or contact the team below:

Call us at (844) 37-FIBER
Email us at orchard-hills@google.com
Visit us at 325 Clinton St, Costa Mesa
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Dresden215 on September 12, 2018, 05:56:01 PM
The technicians were installing the Google fiber optic lines today on the Groves side.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 12, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
5 Points needs to get on this Google Fiber train.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Irvine Turtle on September 12, 2018, 06:26:58 PM
The technicians were installing the Google fiber optic lines today on the Groves side.
Oh that is great news.  Is that availability also in October then?

By the way anyone have outages of At&t fiber niw
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: nosuchreality on September 13, 2018, 07:46:39 AM
The technicians were installing the Google fiber optic lines today on the Groves side.
Oh that is great news.  Is that availability also in October then?

By the way anyone have outages of At&t fiber niw

AT&T is pathetic IMHO. I have frequent problems and chronically experience issues where one of two forced DNS servers is unresponsive or an AT&T router 5 hops up has. 300+ ms response or just doesnt respond.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: spootieho on September 13, 2018, 10:56:07 PM
The technicians were installing the Google fiber optic lines today on the Groves side.
Oh that is great news.  Is that availability also in October then?

By the way anyone have outages of At&t fiber niw

AT&T is pathetic IMHO. I have frequent problems and chronically experience issues where one of two forced DNS servers is unresponsive or an AT&T router 5 hops up has. 300+ ms response or just doesnt respond.
AT&T Fiber or their shit-dsl?  The older side of Irvine didn't want to allow AT&T to improve and blocked them from doing so.

Have you considered using different DNS servers?  I don't know how they could possibly be forced, are they?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: leect on September 14, 2018, 04:59:58 AM
Wow that's awesome to hear. However, I do love ATT Fiber.

WE live in the groves at Orchard Hills. We tried Cox fiber for a day and hated it. Variable speeds, slow ping.

No matter throughout the day I get 2 ping with a download speed of about 125 mbps and an upload speed of 124.

We pay for Internet 100 @ 40 dollars a month with att fiber.  ;D
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: fortune11 on September 14, 2018, 07:37:56 AM
The cox Giga blast is pretty good  . I was skeptical of their claim but test after test on wired connection showed me 950-975 mbps.  Didn’t seem that much more expensive as well when bundled . Mine is around $245 / pm , all you can eat telephone , cable , internet included , with 3 set top boxes
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: eyephone on September 14, 2018, 07:42:04 AM
The cox Giga blast is pretty good  . I was skeptical of their claim but test after test on wired connection showed me 950-975 mbps.  Didn’t seem that much more expensive as well when bundled . Mine is around $245 / pm , all you can eat telephone , cable , internet included , with 3 set top boxes

I just need internet and I have direct tv now for $40 a month. The service comes with free recording of shows. (Includes free Apple 4K tv device)
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: fortune11 on September 14, 2018, 08:04:52 AM
The cox Giga blast is pretty good  . I was skeptical of their claim but test after test on wired connection showed me 950-975 mbps.  Didn’t seem that much more expensive as well when bundled . Mine is around $245 / pm , all you can eat telephone , cable , internet included , with 3 set top boxes

I just need internet and I have direct tv now for $40 a month. (Includes free Apple 4K tv device)

Personal prefence.  I think if you started adding a la carte everything , it adds up pretty fast . The conneceted phone is also nice to have as a fallback when WiFi is patchy or cell signal is weak . And live sports is a convenience I don’t want to give up (like the us open last week)  . Again , may not workfor everyone , but hits the sweet spot for me.

The internet speed is like the engine in cars . Once you get used to the extra power / torque , hard to go back :)


Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 14, 2018, 08:10:50 AM
DirecTV Now has live sports and TV.

The DVR is limited because you can't Chromecast them but if you have an Amazon device (or Apple TV), that allows you to watch recorded shows on your TV.

We got DirecTV dish for $25 a month but that will go away in a year so we'll see what's available then. Cox TV is way overpriced compared to what's out there... it didn't use to be but if you add HBO (which is free to AT&T subscribers) or some other premium channels, using something other than Cox TV will save you significant money.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: eyephone on September 14, 2018, 08:12:32 AM
it’s very convenient with direct tv now. Let’s say your kid or spouse is watching tv or your kid doing homework and don’t want the television on.

I can simply go on my phone or iPad and watch sports or the news. I don’t need to leave the room.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: woodburyowner on September 14, 2018, 10:19:40 AM
The internet speed is like the engine in cars . Once you get used to the extra power / torque , hard to go back :)

I'm curious what applications you use that require such high bandwidth (ie. gigabit)?  I recently upped mine from 100->300Mbit and really don't notice any practical difference except when I back-up to my cloud service.    Did your latency improve to the point where you can see a difference when web browsing?
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: eyephone on September 14, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
The internet speed is like the engine in cars . Once you get used to the extra power / torque , hard to go back :)

I'm curious what applications you use that require such high bandwidth (ie. gigabit)?  I recently upped mine from 100->300Mbit and really don't notice any practical difference except when I back-up to my cloud service.    Did your latency improve to the point where you can see a difference when web browsing?


Big time day trader? Online gamer? Jk
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Kings on September 14, 2018, 10:51:03 AM
The internet speed is like the engine in cars . Once you get used to the extra power / torque , hard to go back :)

I'm curious what applications you use that require such high bandwidth (ie. gigabit)?  I recently upped mine from 100->300Mbit and really don't notice any practical difference except when I back-up to my cloud service.    Did your latency improve to the point where you can see a difference when web browsing?


Big time day trader? Online gamer? Jk

streaming stormy daniels videos  ;)
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: fortune11 on September 14, 2018, 11:24:45 AM
The internet speed is like the engine in cars . Once you get used to the extra power / torque , hard to go back :)

I'm curious what applications you use that require such high bandwidth (ie. gigabit)?  I recently upped mine from 100->300Mbit and really don't notice any practical difference except when I back-up to my cloud service.    Did your latency improve to the point where you can see a difference when web browsing?


Big time day trader? Online gamer? Jk

Trying to keep up with these trumpsters ‘ videos and gifs on the MAGA threads :)

But seriously, when you have multiple devices on at the same time w no lag whatsoever , then you realize the value . Also if you store things on the cloud and are uploading / downloading . And gaming, as eyephone pointed out .
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: woodburyowner on September 14, 2018, 02:11:39 PM
But seriously, when you have multiple devices on at the same time w no lag whatsoever , then you realize the value . Also if you store things on the cloud and are uploading / downloading . And gaming, as eyephone pointed out .

What's your ping time with gigabit internet service?  This is the biggest factor for gaming, not really bandwidth (after a certain minimum).   Also, multiple devices with no lag is probably due to your router and proper configuration of your router.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: Perspective on September 17, 2018, 09:37:39 AM
Can anyone here explain why they're adding what appears to be a new cell tower, right next to another cell tower on a hill above OH V2? That "tree" to the right is a camouflaged cell tower.
Title: Re: Google Fiber coming to Irvine
Post by: woodburyowner on September 17, 2018, 10:02:27 AM
Can anyone here explain why they're adding what appears to be a new cell tower, right next to another cell tower on a hill above OH V2? That "tree" to the right is a camouflaged cell tower.

Could be for a different Network Operator or for additional capacity with the existing Network Operator.