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Title: Cariz at PS
Post by: ??? on May 28, 2014, 03:30:27 PM
THIS IS LAUGHABLE!

Cariz at Portola Springs
Built by TRI Pointe
3-Story Townhomes
1230 to 2048 Square Feet
7 Different Plans Available
None Have Separate Shower and Bath

(http://www.villagesofirvine.com/assets/images/residences/Cariz/Cariz-640x420-large.jpg)

Let's hope TRI Pointe doesn't reck its good reputation from Messina!  >:D
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: ??? on May 28, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Floorplans  ???

Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: 0$ on May 28, 2014, 03:43:36 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: ??? on June 10, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
Prices set to start at the Low 400s, making this the cheapest available new home property available in Irvine.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: ??? on July 20, 2014, 12:10:14 PM
Risen.

Now anticipated from the Mid 400s to the Mid 600s.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: aquabliss on August 16, 2014, 10:53:22 PM
Grand Opening was today, went with my son and he didn't vomit but I almost did when I sampled the complimentary sliders.  Had some very weird plasticy taste and I didn't have the heart to spit it out in front of the nice lady who served it, but the rest of it went in the trash.

Price sheet attached - these are all god awful, all 3 stories with steep stairs and everything feels very cramped.  The sales lady was following out an older couple when I was going in and asking them why they weren't interested in purchasing.  Got kind of awkward, you could tell they were turned off by the models but she was persistent. 

Definitely the least crowded I've seen of any recent opening.  They have a ton of inventory, will see how long it takes them to unload.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: NYT on August 17, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
I wonder how long it'll take builders to realize that if they pack in 1500-2000 square feet in 4 stories that they'll be able to build even more units on the same amount of land.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: quattroporte on August 18, 2014, 09:19:49 AM
three stories and tandem garages, should sell fast......
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: paperboyNC on August 18, 2014, 10:50:51 AM
Grand Opening was today, went with my son and he didn't vomit but I almost did when I sampled the complimentary sliders.  Had some very weird plasticy taste and I didn't have the heart to spit it out in front of the nice lady who served it, but the rest of it went in the trash.

Price sheet attached - these are all god awful, all 3 stories with steep stairs and everything feels very cramped.  The sales lady was following out an older couple when I was going in and asking them why they weren't interested in purchasing.  Got kind of awkward, you could tell they were turned off by the models but she was persistent. 

Definitely the least crowded I've seen of any recent opening.  They have a ton of inventory, will see how long it takes them to unload.

Cypress Village has a lot of options starting in the 400s (Acacia, Zinnia, Caserta). How do they compare? Cariz is similar to many Irvine area apartments and payments could be lower than rent depending on the mello-roos and HOAs.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Tom_Irvine_Guy on August 18, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
They should call it Crazy Springs. Worst floor plans i have seen 
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on August 18, 2014, 03:57:32 PM
three stories and tandem garages, should sell fast......
The builder will be hurting bad with this white elephant.  I expect price drops in the very near future.  This was a FAIL before it even opened!
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on August 18, 2014, 03:59:49 PM
Grand Opening was today, went with my son and he didn't vomit but I almost did when I sampled the complimentary sliders.  Had some very weird plasticy taste and I didn't have the heart to spit it out in front of the nice lady who served it, but the rest of it went in the trash.

Price sheet attached - these are all god awful, all 3 stories with steep stairs and everything feels very cramped.  The sales lady was following out an older couple when I was going in and asking them why they weren't interested in purchasing.  Got kind of awkward, you could tell they were turned off by the models but she was persistent. 

Definitely the least crowded I've seen of any recent opening.  They have a ton of inventory, will see how long it takes them to unload.
What would have been funny if those potential buyers would have told the sales person that the floor plans were horrible....now that would have been awkward yet priceless at the same time.  haha
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: test on August 18, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
The builder will be hurting bad with this white elephant.  I expect price drops in the very near future.  This was a FAIL before it even opened!

Someone's gotta block the 133.  By that measure it's a great success!
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on August 18, 2014, 04:25:27 PM
The builder will be hurting bad with this white elephant.  I expect price drops in the very near future.  This was a FAIL before it even opened!

Someone's gotta block the 133.  By that measure it's a great success!

Most of the time with any loser there is a winner and the winner are the folks on the west part of Pavilion Park who will benefit from sound barrier called Cariz.  So I guess you are right.  haha
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: paperboyNC on August 19, 2014, 08:15:29 AM
The builder will be hurting bad with this white elephant.  I expect price drops in the very near future.  This was a FAIL before it even opened!

Someone's gotta block the 133.  By that measure it's a great success!

Most of the time with any loser there is a winner and the winner are the folks on the west part of Pavilion Park who will benefit from sound barrier called Cariz.  So I guess you are right.  haha

It seems that they just see the glass half empty and complain that Cariz will be peering down into their yard.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: bones on August 19, 2014, 08:22:14 AM
asdf
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Toesonthanose on March 23, 2015, 12:52:00 PM
They released phase 3 last weekend (3/14) and sold 16 of 18 available. Model 1 and 1X pricing up to 469.9k and 499.9k respectively...
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: yoyo2012 on March 27, 2015, 08:56:36 PM
Just wondering, their 4 bedrooms 1900sqft townhomes seem very well priced (600k) compared to nearby communities such as Woodbury or Stonegate. Obviously the 3 floor floorplans is a big con. But is there other reasons why the units are cheaper than nearby communities? A 2 bedroom 1300-1400sqft in Stonegate go for about 550k+
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: eyephone on March 27, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
Just wondering, their 4 bedrooms 1900sqft townhomes seem very well priced (600k) compared to nearby communities such as Woodbury or Stonegate. Obviously the 3 floor floorplans is a big con. But is there other reasons why the units are cheaper than nearby communities? A 2 bedroom 1300-1400sqft in Stonegate go for about 550k+

You answered your own question: 3 floors and in PS

Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: yoyo2012 on March 27, 2015, 10:33:28 PM
But what is wrong about PS? It is right next to Stonegate so really it's just as remote. Also, it's right by the great park upscale neighborhoods.

What will be different between PS and Stonegate once it's fully built?
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: qwerty on March 27, 2015, 10:42:47 PM
But what is wrong about PS? It is right next to Stonegate so really it's just as remote. Also, it's right by the great park upscale neighborhoods.

What will be different between PS and Stonegate once it's fully built?

You are bringing to much logic and sense to the discussion. Get out of here with that junk. PS is at least 15 minutes away from stonegate. All kidding aside I complete agree with you. PS is next to SG and PP and somehow some people here think SG is central and PS the inland empire.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: eyephone on March 27, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
But what is wrong about PS? It is right next to Stonegate so really it's just as remote. Also, it's right by the great park upscale neighborhoods.

What will be different between PS and Stonegate once it's fully built?
3 stories is the kicker card. have you tried looking at resales?
If you want new, have you considered sage 2?!
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: aquabliss on March 27, 2015, 11:53:42 PM
Make sure you don't open your 3rd story window if you live at Cariz.  Those semi trucks barreling down the toll road are deafening at that proximity.

Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: bones on March 28, 2015, 02:27:12 AM
But what is wrong about PS? It is right next to Stonegate so really it's just as remote. Also, it's right by the great park upscale neighborhoods.

What will be different between PS and Stonegate once it's fully built?

There's nothing wrong with PS but Cariz is wedged between PP and the 133. The location is more comparable to Stonegate East - not Stonegate proper. 
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: yoyo2012 on March 28, 2015, 03:29:16 PM
I didn't think of the proximity to the 133 actually. When I visited, the area, it was extremely quiet but it was on the weekend. I figure proximity to 133 isn't as bad as proximity to 5/405 for instance. It is probably very quiet except during rush hour. Will the 133 actually be seen from the 3rd story window of some of those units?

I guess I'm trying to figure out why those 4 bedrooms units would cost 100-150k  less than it would cost in SG/WB/CV. So far, proximity to 133 and 3 stories floorplan seem to be reason why.

Technically, I don't really need a 4 bedroom house for at least 5 years or so. I'm looking to buy something that would have a good resale value when I'm ready to buy a bigger house. Budget would be 500-600k. I like the CV/SG/WB/PS area. I'm wondering if a 2 bedroom 1300-1400sq ft townhome in CV/SG/WB would see better appreciation over that timespan than a 4bdrm 1900sqft at PS with the above disadvantages..

Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: qwerty on March 28, 2015, 04:11:25 PM
Yoyo - it's all about greenwood.

http://www.standardpacifichomes.com/new-homes/southern-california/orange-county/sheldon-at-greenwood.aspx
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Irvinean on March 29, 2015, 07:52:40 PM
I didn't think of the proximity to the 133 actually. When I visited, the area, it was extremely quiet but it was on the weekend. I figure proximity to 133 isn't as bad as proximity to 5/405 for instance. It is probably very quiet except during rush hour. Will the 133 actually be seen from the 3rd story window of some of those units?

I guess I'm trying to figure out why those 4 bedrooms units would cost 100-150k  less than it would cost in SG/WB/CV. So far, proximity to 133 and 3 stories floorplan seem to be reason why.

Technically, I don't really need a 4 bedroom house for at least 5 years or so. I'm looking to buy something that would have a good resale value when I'm ready to buy a bigger house. Budget would be 500-600k. I like the CV/SG/WB/PS area. I'm wondering if a 2 bedroom 1300-1400sq ft townhome in CV/SG/WB would see better appreciation over that timespan than a 4bdrm 1900sqft at PS with the above disadvantages..



Cariz just has a more dense set up and in my mind is more of a "Condominium" type setup, which is more closely related to an apartment type feel. Most of those other products in the other villages are more of "Townhome/Townhouse" setup with no one above or below you with a maximum of two neighbors (one on each side). This is naturally more desirable and fetches more $/sqft.

If 600k is your range and you are looking for more of a Townhouse style, I would suggest Zinnia. The plan 3 is around 590k and has 3 BR 2.5 Bath (with only two stories, which always better than 3 when considering resale).
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: collected on March 30, 2015, 07:52:01 PM
I just went to Cariz and Willow by KB last weekend.  Cariz is all sold out except for 1.  They said that they are raising prices 8-15k.  Cariz seems more favorable than the 4 story Willow.  Some of the models at Cariz have garages 2 cars wide instead of 2 cars deep.  Also price per sqft at Cariz seems better since stairs are included in the calculations.

I couldn't imagine myself living in either one of these dumps.  They put music in the apartments so you wouldn't hear the kids screaming at the pool.  It's going to be very cramped and I can already see everyone fighting over guest parking so that they only park 1 car in the 2-deep garage. 

Also I believe that HOA was high, something like $315/mo.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: eyephone on March 30, 2015, 08:05:22 PM
I just went to Cariz and Willow by KB last weekend.  Cariz is all sold out except for 1.  They said that they are raising prices 8-15k.  Cariz seems more favorable than the 4 story Willow.  Some of the models at Cariz have garages 2 cars wide instead of 2 cars deep.  Also price per sqft at Cariz seems better since stairs are included in the calculations.

I couldn't imagine myself living in either one of these dumps.  They put music in the apartments so you wouldn't hear the kids screaming at the pool.  It's going to be very cramped and I can already see everyone fighting over guest parking so that they only park 1 car in the 2-deep garage. 

Also I believe that HOA was high, something like $315/mo.

#veryStraightForward

"I couldn't imagine myself living in either one of these dumps.  They put music in the apartments so you wouldn't hear the kids screaming at the pool."

That cracks me up. Welcome to TI.

Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Achilles on April 19, 2015, 04:26:58 PM
I love the floorplans and you all are crazy. They are very open and filled with lots of light. They are also very big with usable outdoor rooms. I have looked at every single condo community in Irvine, Mission San Juan, and Baker Ranch. I have some pretty specific needs. For example, I want to live on the second floor. Also, I want a decent outdoor space. I've also looked at every resale for the last year. If things go as planned, I will be purchasing at Cariz.

Acacia and Zinnia are more centrally located. However, the noise from the 5 freeway is unbearable. I visited there on an early Sunday and the noise was terrible. Any balcony or patio would be useless.  The laundry rooms were a closet and had stackable washer/dryer units. The kitchens were small.  Don't get me started on the floorplans. Awkward.  The 2 bedroom unit at Acacia is about 1100 square feet and a lot more expensive.

Mission San Juan is pretty but far away. Baker Ranch? Well, it's sandwiched between a jail and an industrial park.  Stonegate?  ugh!  It's flat and remote and in a grid. At least Cariz is really close to the toll road.  Also I hate those STONEGATE entrance signs.  Did the designers really need to use 6 foot tall letters. And if they were going to make some sort of grand statement, maybe the 'gate' should be stone, not cheap-ass block wall.

I thought about Orchard Hills entrata. They were ok but I didn't like the claustrophobic atrium. Maybe my resale won't be as good. I don't know. It's always a gamble. But I do know I will like where I live for the next phase of my life.

Take care,
Achilles

PS The sounds of kids enjoying the pool on the weekend isn't such a bad thing. Wow!
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Laniakea on April 19, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
The analisys here in TI toward PS disadvantage has always been itchy to me, especially when compared to SG & PP.
Come on people. Let's be realistic, logical, and smart.

What is so that wrong with 0.8 mile more inland than SG and practically it's just across the street from PP?
Hop on a car to start driving to WB town center & I-5. It makes only 3-5 mins difference max than SG & PP.

I actually prefer PS to SG & WB.
You will know if you really try to feel for it. PS is situated on the higher ground with hills and wider streets, more nature, and outstanding parks. Also some view lots are even better than some of the new homes at HC.
I really don't understand why PS is so roughly treated by lots of people here..
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: qwerty on April 19, 2015, 06:03:00 PM
It's just people rationalizing why they bought in one hood vs another. As someone who doesn't live in irvine now so I have no horse in the race and used to rent in Woodbury I completely agree. I have been preaching this for years
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Happiness on April 19, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
The analisys here in TI toward PS disadvantage has always been itchy to me, especially when compared to SG & PP.
Come on people. Let's be realistic, logical, and smart.

What is so that wrong with 0.8 mile more inland than SG and practically it's just across the street from PP?
Hop on a car to start driving to WB town center & I-5. It makes only 3-5 mins difference max than SG & PP.

I actually prefer PS to SG & WB.
You will know if you really try to feel for it. PS is situated on the higher ground with hills and wider streets, more nature, and outstanding parks. Also some view lots are even better than some of the new homes at HC.
I really don't understand why PS is so roughly treated by lots of people here..
You can blame the Irvine Company for failing to properly market PS.  TIC always gave PS short shrift compared to its contemporary Woodbury.  TIC screwed PS out of its promised retail center, regional park, and school (until this fall).  I believe it was because TIC did not want PS to take sales from Woodbury, which was designed as a follow on to TIC's beloved Northpark.  TIC considers Northpark and Quail Hill to be its crown jewel villages to be used as models for future villages.
At the time PS began, it was sort of isolated and that turned a lot of people off.  Obviously, that's not true any more.  The view from Serra is of Irvine and Newport and you can see Catalina Island.  That's the best feng shui with your back to the mountains and facing the ocean, not the crap feng shui of so called coastal Hidden Canyon with its back to the ocean.  The talk about the jail and the landfill near PS are all bs: PP is closer to the jail and Stonegate is closer to the landfill.  If you live in PS, think of yourself as lucky to have found a hidden gem.  The value of PS should increase in the future with all the expensive new houses going up around it.  Heck, PS now shares its 92618 zip code with $3 mil homes (Hidden Canyon).


Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: bones on April 19, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
not all of PS is created equal. The area where Cariz is located is prob the worst part.  It has none of the elevation perks and is located on a sliver next to the 133 toll road. All the homes there are attached condos and the motorcourt Sage homes.  I find each "enclave" of PS to be totally different.  IMO, the one with the large Serra homes is the best enclave. Although some of the upcoming enclaves may be nicer.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: eyephone on April 19, 2015, 06:35:22 PM
The analisys here in TI toward PS disadvantage has always been itchy to me, especially when compared to SG & PP.
Come on people. Let's be realistic, logical, and smart.

What is so that wrong with 0.8 mile more inland than SG and practically it's just across the street from PP?
Hop on a car to start driving to WB town center & I-5. It makes only 3-5 mins difference max than SG & PP.

I actually prefer PS to SG & WB.
You will know if you really try to feel for it. PS is situated on the higher ground with hills and wider streets, more nature, and outstanding parks. Also some view lots are even better than some of the new homes at HC.
I really don't understand why PS is so roughly treated by lots of people here..

1. Award winning school in SG not PS
2. Retail Shops plan scrapped at PS
3. The neighborhoods at PS didn't sell fast compared to SG and CV.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Laniakea on April 19, 2015, 06:49:30 PM
Bty.. What the hell is going on the top of the hill behind PS thou? It seems so much bigger now. Are they building "Open Canyon"?
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: OC_relocation on April 19, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Bty.. What the hell is going on the top of the hill behind PS thou? It seems so much bigger now. Are they building "Open Canyon"?

Is that a landfill?
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: OC_relocation on April 19, 2015, 08:37:47 PM
We r living in PS and I agree most of the things written here bad about PS r not true.

It's location is very good. I would prefer it over SG and CV which r flat. Honestly it's not far at all from WB town center , it only takes 5 minutes max to get to Ralph's and Traders joes.
 With brand new school slated to open this fall would be great for our kids.
Landfill is not a issue, I agree it should be problem if any for SG and PP more than PS.
It's very calm and nice here. It only takes few minutes walk to get into mountains for evening stroll :)
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: WTTCHMN on April 19, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
Bty.. What the hell is going on the top of the hill behind PS thou? It seems so much bigger now. Are they building "Open Canyon"?

Landslide remediation from the April 2014 East Loma landslide.

http://cams.ocgov.com/Web_Publisher/Agenda09_30_2014_files/images/A14-001436.HTM
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: paperboyNC on April 20, 2015, 09:09:23 AM
I live in Portola Springs as well. It will definitely be valued higher once the Elementary school opens, but if I were a buyer I would demand to know what happened to the community park & retail. It seems wrong that they can just take those away from us and not compensate us.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: qwerty on April 20, 2015, 09:18:17 AM
I live in Portola Springs as well. It will definitely be valued higher once the Elementary school opens, but if I were a buyer I would demand to know what happened to the community park & retail. It seems wrong that they can just take those away from us and not compensate us.

There is a school right around the corner that was built about four years ago in Columbus square that is not even being used as the elemntery school. Gasman has been paying taxes for this school for 7 years that he gets no benefit from.  They don't owe you compensation for anything. Can you say pipe dream? :-)
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: gld2 on April 20, 2015, 09:22:35 AM
I am wondering where the community park of PS will be located?   
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: gasman on April 20, 2015, 09:22:45 AM
There is a school right around the corner that was built about four years ago in Columbus square that is not even being used as the elemntery school. Gasman has been paying taxes for this school for 7 years that he gets no benefit from.  They don't owe you compensation for anything. Can you say pipe dream? :-)

DAMN SKIPPY.  If I can't get a refund on my CFD payments, nobody can!
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 20, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
They are building a ghost community center right under yaliu's house and he's not getting any compensation.

:)
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: bones on April 20, 2015, 09:28:05 AM
"Demand to know." Haha. Prob would make more sense for current PS residents to petition/protest/march.  Lookie loos have no leverage. And TIC isn't even selling the homes. 3rd party builders are. They know nothing about the master plan.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: paperboyNC on April 20, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
"Demand to know." Haha. Prob would make more sense for current PS residents to petition/protest/march.  Lookie loos have no leverage. And TIC isn't even selling the homes. 3rd party builders are. They know nothing about the master plan.

Yeah. Best strategy would be through our elected officials (city council / planning commission).
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: GH on April 20, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
Given the spread out location of each enclave of PS, I don't think a retail space or a community park would really make a lot of difference (It would not be walking distance to majority of PS resident anyway -- so if you have to drive, then just go to Woodbury or the Great Park or other village Community Parks).  I actually prefer the current setup of PS .. still lots of open space, minimal traffic and noise etc.   There are still lot of open spaces in PS so it will still be a guessing game on what will be built on those area.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: OC_relocation on April 20, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
If you drive on Portola PKwy towards 241, after school they r building a pedestrian brigdge. I saw some machines at work, could they build more homes there? Maybe yes?
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: bones on April 20, 2015, 12:28:59 PM
If you drive on Portola PKwy towards 241, after school they r building a pedestrian brigdge. I saw some machines at work, could they build more homes there? Maybe yes?

Yes. Those are the areas of future enclaves.  Time for someone to post the (outdated) PS master plan again. Or does someone have a more recent one?
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: thelandofnoland on April 20, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
Please contact me at http://thenewhomeblog.wix.com/the-new-home-blog for more information on the original post. Thank you.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: aquabliss on April 20, 2015, 06:01:23 PM
Any idea when the gated community will start building?  This will be very popular I'm sure, but I'm interested as well.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: paperboyNC on April 20, 2015, 10:49:51 PM
The following information is the latest information from the Irvine Company itself in late 2014.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/29xyxvo.png)

The map is missing Enclave 6 between the SR-133 and Pavilion Park. But thank you for the updated map. So the community park is still there, but retail is permanently gone, right?
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: OC_relocation on April 21, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
Thanks for sharing, so there will be  many activities in ps in next few months:)
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: bones on April 21, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Thanks for sharing, so there will be  many activities in ps in next few months:)

Not months... try years!  IIRC, Portola Springs started selling in early 2007 (or maybe it was late 2006) so it's 8 years in the making to get to this point.  Wonder how many more years to go before the final master plan gets finished. 
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: Happiness on April 22, 2015, 10:05:06 AM
Of course, the biggest hoax perpetrated on prior PS residents was the "Great Park."  I'm sure a lot of early PS residents bought there because they would be next to an urban park in the class of NY Central Park and SD Balboa Park.  My advice, don't buy a house based on something someone tells you will be there some day because that day may never come.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: gasman on April 22, 2015, 01:16:07 PM
Of course, the biggest hoax perpetrated on prior PS residents was the "Great Park."  I'm sure a lot of early PS residents bought there because they would be next to an urban park in the class of NY Central Park and SD Balboa Park.  My advice, don't buy a house based on something someone tells you will be there some day because that day may never come.

...Or you can be like Tustin and keep homebuyers out of Legacy by humoring the Angels baseball stadium...
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: dream16 on January 02, 2016, 04:41:42 PM
I just went to Cariz and Willow by KB last weekend.  Cariz is all sold out except for 1.  They said that they are raising prices 8-15k.  Cariz seems more favorable than the 4 story Willow.  Some of the models at Cariz have garages 2 cars wide instead of 2 cars deep.  Also price per sqft at Cariz seems better since stairs are included in the calculations.

I couldn't imagine myself living in either one of these dumps.  They put music in the apartments so you wouldn't hear the kids screaming at the pool.  It's going to be very cramped and I can already see everyone fighting over guest parking so that they only park 1 car in the 2-deep garage. 

Also I believe that HOA was high, something like $315/mo.

Umm well for someone lower middle class like me as per IR standards, i just bought a condo in willow for 550k :( as my 1st property...so only god knows what i have signed up for in the near future.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: irvinehomeowner on January 02, 2016, 04:58:53 PM
I thought Willows was all SFRs.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: dream16 on January 02, 2016, 10:07:17 PM
They released phase 3 last weekend (3/14) and sold 16 of 18 available. Model 1 and 1X pricing up to 469.9k and 499.9k respectively...

Have you seen them raise prices on other 1778 sq feet units too? I found one that was sold out for $310/Sq Ft in Oct 2015 ....the cheapest by far in IR. However, it has neighbors stacked up/left-right and down in comparison to 1614 sq ft units (no up/down neighbors: stand-alone structure condos with left/right neighbors) with pricing of $338/sq ft being sold out in Dec 2015 in PS
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: dream16 on January 03, 2016, 11:52:06 AM
Well i kind of answered my own question here, here is some very valuable free market analysis for all:

https://www.coldwellbankerhomes.com/ca/irvine/62-origin/pid_1101742/

This was a jackpot deal that a superlucky buyer won this march 2015: 289$/sq ft....i am shocked and still can't believe it happened ...1778 sq ft , 2 floor home sold out for $514,973.....aahhhh this was such an AWESOME Deal...

sad part is now the same units are being offered for $594k and up...so we have a jump of 80,000 in 9 Months.....
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: dream16 on January 03, 2016, 11:55:17 AM
Grand Opening was today, went with my son and he didn't vomit but I almost did when I sampled the complimentary sliders.  Had some very weird plasticy taste and I didn't have the heart to spit it out in front of the nice lady who served it, but the rest of it went in the trash.

Price sheet attached - these are all god awful, all 3 stories with steep stairs and everything feels very cramped.  The sales lady was following out an older couple when I was going in and asking them why they weren't interested in purchasing.  Got kind of awkward, you could tell they were turned off by the models but she was persistent. 

Definitely the least crowded I've seen of any recent opening.  They have a ton of inventory, will see how long it takes them to unload.

Could have been easy 80-100k in profits for you if you wanted to flip it in just 1 year as they sold out darn cheap till March 2015...and here's the proof of it...the same ones now are going out for 594k and up

https://www.coldwellbankerhomes.com/ca/irvine/62-origin/pid_1101742/
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: aquabliss on January 03, 2016, 03:34:27 PM
Where's the resale with $100k profits?  New construction can entice buyers because it's just that, but once these start reselling and buyers compare lived in tri-level vs. lived in 2 level, only then you'll see what your potential "profits" really are.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
Post by: dream16 on January 04, 2016, 03:00:51 PM
Where's the resale with $100k profits?  New construction can entice buyers because it's just that, but once these start reselling and buyers compare lived in tri-level vs. lived in 2 level, only then you'll see what your potential "profits" really are.

Well i wouldn't personally blink twice if a 3 story is even 25k less than a 2 story level, i guess to each his own depending on what stage of life they are at.
Title: Re: Cariz at PS
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