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Mass Transit
« on: April 13, 2018, 12:38:54 PM »
Should there be a Mass Transit system in OC?
(Light rail, street car, hyper loop, etc..)

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2018, 12:54:30 PM »
I would like something that goes to the metro stations, business centers, and  SNA. 

They have the shuttle thing but it's really impractical.

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2018, 01:01:27 PM »
A rail line in Austin. (26 miles)
http://downtownaustin.com/experience/metrorail

Check out the street car project in Oklahoma City.
https://www.okc.gov/government/maps-3/projects/modern-streetcar-transit

Seattle has many mass transit options. (Light rail, street car, monorail, and train)
https://www.seattle.gov/transportation/getting-around/transit

« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 10:19:51 PM by eyephone »

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 09:38:00 PM »
I agree with Irvinecommuter, but would include service to the Spectrum and Marketplace. It’s worth considering the universities and also lines to the city limits with large parking lots. That way those who commute into Irvine might park at the city’s limits and ride the light rail in. UCI could overcharge on parking permits via a city tax to encourage students to not drive.

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2018, 08:06:21 AM »
LOL, no mention of the backbone of mass transit, buses.

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2018, 09:22:18 AM »
LOL, no mention of the backbone of mass transit, buses.

Exactly.  There already is a mass transit system that nobody uses.  Why build another one?

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 04:25:08 PM »
I take the train to work but there are only 2 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon.

Compared to LA light rail (Green line, Gold line, etc.) that comes every 15 mins from 4AM-Midnight, it's really inconvenient.  The light rail cost less too ($100 for monthly passes).

OC Streetcar will start operations around 2021 (ETA), but that's for Santa Ana:
http://www.octa.net/Projects-and-Programs/All-Projects/Rail-Projects/OC-Streetcar/

For RE investors, you might want to consider investing near planned stations.

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Re: Mass Transit
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 06:00:39 PM »
Light rail is tough without walkability because one needs to be able to get from the rail station to their final destination or from the origin.

Walkability is tough with our current block sizes, density, and street patterns in Irvine. Driving is just way too convenient here, and parking is usually free and plentiful everywhere. I think we are stuck with car dependency here unless driving gets more expensive (tolls, congestion charges, parking fees) or inconvenient. And you can't run a fixed mass transit system during commute hours only unless you want to bleed a crapton of money. Streetcar would have very little effect beyond aesthetics.

A relatively cheap and impactful mass transit would be some kind of dedicated lane BRT along a major arterial (e.g. Jamboree) and reduced parking minimums/increased density along the entire route. Unfortunately, most people would be up in arms about this because it would inconvenience them (and me) and we're all mostly hooked on the convenience of car commuting (including myself).

Biking is a pretty good alternative right now too. PS when will Irvine finally finish the Peters Canyon missing link between Walnut & Warner? All this to build a bridge for Moffett Dr? Literally years

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